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nikkypearl: I was there.

I can testify to that, saw you when you came to serve Mirinda at my table

Fulaman198: I agree with your though process, but please understand that there are 'extremists' in every religion, aka those who misinterpret and blow their religion out of proportion.

I created a thread on this (and it was moved to Islam section), the first comment explicitly stated that muslims are meant to be extremists!

Guess what the next person said, well, he gets a plus for saying muslims shouldn't be 'total extremists'. . .

After that He says: ignore posts like this thread. We don't need
anybody giving us an agenda on what to think,
behave etc
The atheists love Christians because they get their
way wit the Christians but the Muslims (Alhamdu Li
Llah) don't believe in disobeying Allah in order to be
loved by deviant and abnormal human beings
. . . .

What do you have to say Fulaman?

bizmahn: How to easily tell an extremist muslim? Burn or threaten to burn just a leaf from their holy book & report the response if you live to tell it.Even those you tag harmless will never rest content till you are hurried to the next life.

On the contrary burn a trailer load of bibles before practising christians & who cares.Now tell me on which side peace belongs among the two.

That's why I have said ANY Muslim who will behave in that way you described is definitely an Extremist, and has got potentials for full-blown violence/terrorism.

But Muslims who do not share that aggresive view (however few or much) are the True Muslims.
But if all of em share that view, *sigh* then I don't know what to say again.

But I know @least Two Muslims who don't share such views (not to my knowledge anyway). . . My very good friend and my Ex-Gf

ForeWord: This thread was initially created as a response to one of those Muslims I had come to classify as intolerant and of extremist potentials.

I hope he got his answer and others get re-orientation from this thread.

The Question: Who is an Extremist Muslim and who is a 'normal Practising Muslim'

Response:

An extremist muslim is ANY muslim that believes in super-imposing his beliefs over another person.

An extremist-muslim doesn't believe in converting 'unbelievers' through love, rather through force. Force is not always physical, it may be psychological.

A extremist-muslim is of the notion of 'Us and Them'!

An extremist-muslim is ANY muslim that justifies in any way, attacks on people of other faiths.

An extremist-muslim is that person who believes islamic dictates should apply to those who are non-muslims; just because the 'unbelievers' are in minority.

An extremist-muslim is that muslim that would not treat others as he wants to be treated, who wants to dress in islamic way in 'zones/geographical jurisdiction' of other faiths BUT who can not reciprocate such freedom if roles were reversed.

The extremist considers demonstrating his faith a right BUT does NOT believe other should be accorded that right.

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The True Muslim, or at least who I will consider one, is that who worships Allah without habouring hate towards others. He/she will not nurse the intention(s) to kill someone for desecrating 'Islam'.

The True Muslim who believes he/she is serving a powerful God will leave God to judge just as a christian would.

The True Muslim will just like my Ex-Gf, being as MUSLIM as it gets (even handshake is a big deal, well, was ), YET not wishing I drop dead because I held a different opinion about her religion. BTW, she never gave me the chance to have second thoughts about islam. I even joked on going to Mecca, well, I was serious (except adopting Alhaji title).

A true muslim is therefore, one who makes you want to experience islam. Now, who wants to experience violence if that is what they perceive? In essence, if all I can see are muslims who can insult my religion BuT responding gets them MAD, would I want to join them?

Once again; A true muslim is one who makes you want to experience islam. The question every Muslim should ask him/her self (just as a christian should also do) is; do I ever wish for those who do not share my faith to act in accordance to it? If roles were reversed, would I be happy?

More importantly, do I possess a non-volatile candour that truly demonstrates the peace and tolerance Islam should represent.

I am a Christian, I believe in God Almighty, the father of our Lord Jesus Christ, but my arms are open in embrace to any and every 'non-christian' who WILL Accord me the same respect and tolerance I accord his/her religion.

To my Muslim brothers/sisters, Ma salaam!

To Seun and His NairaLand team, don't let intolerant moderators rock the boat of peaceful co-existence.

God Bless us all.

ForeWord: This thread was initially created as a response to one of those Muslims I had come to classify as intolerant and of extremist potentials.

I hope he got his answer and others get re-orientation from this thread.

The Question: Who is an Extremist Muslim and who is a 'normal Practising Muslim'

Response:

An extremist muslim is ANY muslim that believes in super-imposing his beliefs over another person.

An extremist-muslim doesn't believe in converting 'unbelievers' through love, rather through force. Force is not always physical, it may be psychological.

A extremist-muslim is of the notion of 'Us and Them'!

An extremist-muslim is ANY muslim that justifies in any way, attacks on people of other faiths.

An extremist-muslim is that person who believes islamic dictates should apply to those who are non-muslims; just because the 'unbelievers' are in minority.

An extremist-muslim is that muslim that would not treat others as he wants to be treated, who wants to dress in islamic way in 'zones/geographical jurisdiction' of other faiths BUT who can not reciprocate such freedom if roles were reversed.
The extremist considers demonstrating his faith a right BUT does NOT believe other should be accorded that right.

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The True Muslim, or at least who I will consider one, is that who worships Allah without habouring hate towards others. He/she will not nurse the intention(s) to kill someone for desecrating 'Islam'.

The True Muslim who believes he/she is serving a powerful God will leave God to judge just as a christian would.

The True Muslim will just like my Ex-Gf, being as MUSLIM as it gets (even handshake is a big deal, well, was ), YET not wishing I drop dead because I held a different opinion about her religion. BTW, she never gave me the chance to have second thoughts about islam. I even joked on going to Mecca, well, I was serious (except adopting Alhaji title).

A true muslim is therefore, one who makes you want to experience islam. Now, who wants to experience violence if that is what they perceive? In essence, if all I can see are muslims who can insult my religion BuT responding gets them MAD, would I want to join them?

Once again; A true muslim is one who makes you want to experience islam. The question every Muslim should ask him/her self (just as a christian should also do) is; do I ever wish for those who do not share my faith to act in accordance to it? If roles were reversed, would I be happy?

More importantly, do I possess a non-volatile candour that truly demonstrates the peace and tolerance Islam should represent.

I am a Christian, I believe in God Almighty, the father of our Lord Jesus Christ, but my arms are open in embrace to any and every 'non-christian' who WILL Accord me the same respect and tolerance I accord his/her religion.

To my Muslim brothers/sisters, Ma salaam!

To Seun and His NairaLand team, don't let intolerant moderators rock the boat of peaceful co-existence.

God Bless us all.

Mujah1deen: Please this question is very important, any bright Christian?

For the sake of christ who commands that we love all people; terrorists included, I'll answer you.

An extremist muslim is ANY muslim that believes in super-imposing his belief over another person.

An extremist-muslim is ANY muslim that justifies in any way, attacks on people of other faiths.

An extremist-muslim is that person who believes islamic dictates should apply to those who are non-muslims; just because the 'unbelievers' are in minority.

An extremist-muslim is that muslim that would not treat others as he wants to be treated, who wants to dress in islamic way in 'zones' of other faiths but who can not reciprocate such freedom if roles were reversed.

The True Muslim, or at least who I will consider one, is that who worships Allah without habouring hate towards others. He/she will not nurse the intention(s) to kill someone for desecrating 'Islam'.

The True Muslim who believes he/she is serving a powerful God will leave God to judge just as a christian would.

The True Muslim will just like my ex-gf, being as MUSLIM as it gets (even handshake is big deal), YET not wishing I drop dead because I have a different opinion about her religion. BTW, she never gave me the chance to have second thoughts about islam, I even joked on going to Mecca.

A true muslim is therefore, one who makes you want to experience islam. Now, who wants to experience violence if that is what they perceive? In essence, if all I can see are muslims who can insult my religion BuT responding gets them MAD, would I want to join them?

Once again; A true muslim is therefore, one who makes you want to experience islam.

Ma salaam!

Mujah1deen: I did not post anything, check again.
You can stop being a bigot and answer my questions .than you

Aren't you the guy who believes beheading certain people is acceptable by your religion?

HumbledbYGrace: Your inviting me to dinner? Well we will talk another time, gotta dash now.

WoW! I'm about to attain 'Chairman Level' on NairaLand (1st class netizen by being a MODs friend ) . . . . Soon, 'some people' won't be able to touch me on NL

Cool

#waiting for the 'another time' as promised

HumbledbYGrace: what What time is the service?

Well, evening service is preferable . . . Sharing the word (and apostolic admonishments) over a nice meal works magic

HumbledbYGrace: does that mean m invited to your church?

Yes ma'am! You're invited to my church, where I preside as the humble ever distinguished Bishop of St Bottles Cathedral A.K.A Seaman's Chapel

. . . Its an atmosphere of love during our worship

No free adverts on NL right? Lemme stop now

HumbledbYGrace: I was in the same class with Deols, infact we shared the same desk in the 'moderators revamp camp.'

Now I'm worried about you dear ma'am . . . Extremism isn't contagious by being in close proximity with an infested person, is it?

Please do special prayer for cleansing on Sunday. God bless you sis.

Olugbenger: Why don't u guys try that in the islam section.


i'av had my far share.

Banned by deols in Islam for Muslims for
deliberately derailing thread as a well
known offender . Ban expires on
12:08pm On Mar 09, 2014

DEOLS is as intolerant as the rest of her kind. . . Muslims can advocate for violence BUT it is a crime for Christians to reply them to shut it.

It is a great insult to compare her wit ANYONE, let alone compare her wit someone on this part of Nairaland

You should be sued

maysimsimple: I'm also a muslim, and Islam is my religion. I second on this. In honesty, the truth been said. I live in IB, close to a missionary school, St annes girls grammar sch. They have both xtians n muslim girls in d sch, but, not for once I have ever come across a muslim girl goin to sch with an hijab on, d only time I see that is on fridays and after sch hours when they are going for the jumat prayers. To be frank, their are muslim missionary schs also, where u won't find a church in it. I only wish we can start living in reality and not some sort of old primitive ways.

I hope the resident NairaLand jihadists see this ^^^ . . . Not that their brains can still be repaired, BUT let the knowledge at least CHOOK them

HumbledbYGrace: Pattey I asked you to stop, Deols is not a mod in this section, if you feel she should face some kind of punishment, open a thread in the nairaland general and do as you please not here.

You didn't mention my name before Ooo, check your post . . . But now that you have, case closed 'JUST' on this thread . . .

Btw, is Seun intolerant? Cos I don't understand why any post that mentions him gets hidden. IMO when 'the reckoning' starts, that will be more incriminating evidence he's not doing the needful to prevent certain harmful trends.

The 1st picture below is the 'Document' the Lagos State Government officials left behind so they could be reached for 'settlement'.

NEW Development: It has just been confirmed from the Health Inspector's office at the Local Government that the so-called Lagos State Government officials WERE on Illegal duty.

They were NOT sent by the authorities who served the shop owners with the earlier notice.

The Report:

This morning at about 10.15am, men who claimed to be officers of Lagos State Environmental Taskforce stormed Ogunbowale Street in Ilasamaja, Lagos state, to demolish 'illegal' structures.

The officials thrust their hammer on a 'shop extension' with the owner under it and it nearly collapsed on her.

The notice served on the shop owners and obtained for this report shows they were served on 27th november. They were given till Monday December 2nd to clear 'extensions' in front of their shops but these 'task force officials' showed up with hammers, destroying their means of livelihood.

The Team led by a certain Mr Ogundiran and another Mr Alao swung into action, demolishing the wooden structures without giving the owners time to move.

While the intentions of the state government as it pertains environmental reforms are laudable, the acts of theses officials are questionable.

1- The demolished 'extensions' are paid for. The Local Government often issues receipts for these same extensions, granting approval for their erection and usage, ONLY to come back to demolish them.

2- Out of the four men who came in the name of Lagos State Government, one of them DID NOT possess an ID card. This begs the question, on what ground did he come for the 'operation'?.

3- These men came in a private car with registration number: KTU 215BW. Why a private car when on assignment for the Lagos State Environmental Taskforce which has several vehicles at its disposal?

4- The Notice was served on 27th November, the shop owners were given till December 2nd to make amends. Why were their businesses attacked just Two days after the notice was served; three days before their period of grace was to terminate.

It also comes to mind, will the Local government refund them the paid sums since their 'extensions' are being demolished?

This is not the first time this will happen in Lagos. It is perhaps not new to many people, but, when do we put a stop to illegality?

Why pay levies when the government will still destroy what they levied you for?

More shops would have been demolished if this capturing was not being done, and of course the fear of a subsequent news report like this made these men stop.

The people of Lagos need to start speaking up. The government is trying to sanitize the state, BUT who are these men operating with an 'Unidentifiable' Official? Who are these men demolishing shops just two days after a notice was served, whereas they had 5 days of grace? Even under standard law, should it be 5days?


NB: There is a video recording of this questionable exercise, once it is uploaded on YouTube, the link will be made available. More video capturing was done, so, kindly make do with the few pictures available.

This is what happens when you refuse to take a bow and exit the stage when the ovation is loudest. . . ASUU, you see your life

deols: Looks like a party of the banned is going on here.

I know it hurts to get banned but you all can do well by being good boys.

If I don't train you, who will





oops! I await the DSs

You must be used to having outsiders train you since those who ought to train you where NoRMal growing kids are trained, Failed woefully and gave society a defected 'product'

What a shame! But your kind that needs training(having being failed by their ****) are hiding in your 'quarantined cave'

deols: I'll let things go as Seun asked.

But I have to clarify that my intention was not to fight humbledbygrace. I choose my fights and she's just not it.

But did I read someone threathening me?? That must be the most hilarious thing ever.

Hahhhhahah!! I am so scared!! Lol..I am shaking and in fact afraid to go out...LOl.

Shouldnt I just deactivate like the many cowards?? hahahaha!!

I'm not of your ilk that threatens to get attention! Or kills innocent people to appease some 'g'od!

I dare you to make your records open that you have not been exchanging correspondence with individuals who could be terrorists!

So Seun has been 'begging' you? What a shame! And HBG is not up to your level . . . Clown!

Shekau will find in you, a worthy bride!

HumbledbYGrace: you do realise your stepping out of line and breaking rule #2

Don't push your luck please.

2. Don't abuse, bully, deliberately insult/
provoke, fight, or wish harm to any Nairaland
member.

Please explain how I'm breaking Rule 2!

Is the Department for State Security now an establishment that harms Nigerians? Or does it protect Nigerians from others who seek to harm them?

I'm confused ma'am. . . Or perhaps, HIGHLIGHT any insult or whatever else it was that I violated.

woky: sorry to say this:
your post wil be hidden shortly..

Real Question: is the post true or false? And who does it offend? Oh! I forgot, the truth hurts!!!

Who hid my comment again?

For emphasis; Islamic extremists are known to recruit by finding people who buy into their ideas, this is already happening on Nairaland! Terrorists network with people whom they see hve bought into their evil agenda!

When muslims openly promote violence and DEOLS allows them by banning christians who respond, what does that say? Matron or Not?

Don't worry, DSS will soon follow us join for this matter you people are thinking "na small thing". Just wait till I finish with my emails!

rationalmind: Bro, my advice to you is to leave them and their section. I personally don't visit the section

I DID NOT and will never visit Islam section. . . The story was on FrontPage. Since it made frontpage, it should have been very logical to have a Non-Extremist soon to be "Shekau's" bride as Moderator!

She should keep her extremism to her because if her brothers give her the impression they have monopoly over violence, THEY HAVE SOMETHING else coming to hit them soon!

If they want S/West to be hot like the North, their wish just might come true! And I can gurantee I won't be among the casualties.

Eventhough she's one of them, she should Quit supporting her brothers and sisters promoting hate! QED

HumbledbYGrace: No need for name calling, we are mods of the religion section, please post anything that has to do with Muslims in the Islam for Muslim sub section.

That's Seun's words and we have to obey them, anything concerning that quarantined place is not the religion mod's cup of cake. Kindly take it to allah in prayer..

Ok. But what complaints are to be posted here then?

And would it make sense complaining to an extremist supporter who knows exactly what she is doing?

Mujah1deen: we will turn your state houses into
mosques with minarets and your churches into
quranic schools

www.nairaland.com/1531223/hoodlums-attack-osun-school-stopping/21

This is one of several ridiculous remarks made by muslims apart from openly canvasing for violent acts against christians. But for some reason, its oK for Muslims to post thrash on NairaLand, right?

Don't muslims go on rampage with statements not even explicitly mentioning their religion?

Muslims can say what they like and incite violence yet nothing happens, but christians reply, they get banned. How ridiculous!

The MODs must be jokers by hiding my protest posts against DEOLs; their colleague who grants extremists a safe haven to air their violent views! Does that show the same tolerance the religion is known for

ccollins: I can see from your reply that you are a bitter old cretin who is frustrated by the poverty and scorn of the present day nigeria coupled unemployment. What an slowpoke,I pity for your upcoming generations.. Look at you mouth spewing rubbish of not having passed jamb. In my set at school,esp at my faculty.. I was among those with the highest scores in post-ume.I will not blow or open my real self here. I will just think that you are just retarded and got your graduation out of being a love-vendor and the corrupt norm we all know

With your apparent lack of comprehension, idiotic reasoning and misrepresentation of facts, Your GP would definitely give all the folks in your village heart attack.

Why? For the fact that all the cooperative money used in sending you to school will amount to a waste!

And btw, you bragged about your post-ume, the same one you got via runs? olodo. . . Itiboribo. . . Dolo!

How on earth can someone as slow as yourself be an undergraduate. . . God help Nigeria!