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I just want to know whether you people are deliberately rejecting fundamental truth

Janosky:
Question for paxonel:
Did 1 Corinthians 6:19 teach that the government of Jesus is the holy spirit in man?

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you...

When Isaiah said "And the government shall be upon his shoulder'... Isaiah 9:6

He was referring to God's kingdom also mentioned in all the parables spoken by Jesus in the new testament.

So, the word Government as mentioned by Isaiah, and the term "God's kingdom" can be used interchangeably in the context of the bible.

Do you agree?

If you do not agree that the word government refers to God's kingdom, explain yourself

If you agree, then i can explain to you how God's kingdom is holy spirit in man

Janosky:
Oga, your theory is not in your Bible.

Oga,which Bible verse teach you that God's kingdom is "holy spirit in the heart of men"?

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you...

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Nigeria should learn from Ghana and arrest all these scamming pastorš

The one for last year, he didn't give breakdown to show whether they happened or not. He is bringing new ones?

Puzzle for Nigerians head right now

Janosky:
Luke 1:31-33 confirms Daniel 2:44 & Matt 6:9-10.
And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

[b]33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

you people are not understanding it.

Engage your brain and think over this.

God created Adam and Eve to live forever like God,but they sinned along the line and death came to mankind.
Understand that death is a spirit.
And when God created man, he breathed his spirit into man, so life is also a spirit.

So, basically there two types of spirit.
1.The holy spirit from God which giveth life
2. The other spirits which are not from God

Hence, Daniel's prophecies.
For instance, his vision about the great statue. It also prophesied about the coming of the holy spirit which is Jesus.
And prophet Isaiah also mentioned the same thing.

The summary of it all is, the government of Jesus is the holy spirit in man that restores the eternal life that Adam and Eve lost in the beginning 1 cor 15:22.
It is not any physical or man made government that rules any physical country or state.
That's why, when Pilate interrogated Jesus, are you coming to set up a parallel government with the Roman Empire who was ruling Israel at that time?
That is treasonable!

But Jesus let him know that his government is not of this world.
Meaning, his government is not a parallel government. But rather, it is the holy spirit in the heart of his believer(his disciples) which restores eternal life back to the believer.
Romans 10:10.

So Pilate could not find any fault in him or anything treasonable

With this understanding, the big question that your kingdom hall has refused to answer so that you become a Christian is, WHAT IS GOD'S KINGOM?

Until you answer that question for yourself and by yourself alone, you are not a Christian.

Unbelievers don't want Luke 1:31-33, Daniel 2:44 & Matt 6:9-10 in[/b] their bibles.

Unbelievers are people who don't know. Eg Jw, Muslims, Atheists, etc
The day they know, from that day they will believe. Romans 10:17

MaxInDHouse:
You are free to argue with God's word?🙂

So I tell you, you are Peter. And I will build my church on this rock. The power of death will not be able to defeat my church. Matthew 16:18

And I'm telling you that, that church Jesus build is Christianity worldwide!
It is not any organization or church build by man.

The question is, what is God's kingdom?

MaxInDHouse:
He is ashamed of his church after seeing how they've become money lovers so he is now angrily seeking ways to accuse God's organization instead of repentance!🙂

There is nothing like God's organization stop deceiving yourselves
Salvation is not dependent on repentance but on FAITH.
Jesus did not establish any church or organization
We have the body of Christ worldwide which is one church, one religion and that is Christianity.
Jehovah witnesses have their own religion called watchtower, that is not Christianity.
It has been there since 0001 AD

Muslims have their own religion called Islam, that is also not Christianity
The Jews have their own religion called Judaism which Jesus denoted as the scribes and Pharisees in the bible, that is also not Christianity.

From this knowledge, the question now is what is kingdom of God according to Daniel's prophecies and Jesus parables ?
You cannot tell

You are even more confused and dumbfounded than the scribes and Pharisees

Mosco100:
“From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”(Matthew 4:17). Amen.

This did not contradict what Paul said in Romans 3:27

As a matter of fact.
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

So, he did not wait for us to repent because what he came to do has nothing to do with our repentance. So that at the end, all the glory belongs to him

Janosky:
God's kingdom means God's government under the rulership of Jesus Christ.

Wrong!
There is no such government!

You see why i say you people are not Christians?
You are waiting for one Jesus government that will come and overthrow Tinubu goverment?

What a height of delusion

obonujoker:
Hell Fire is not physical bro... You should know this. It's a spiritual place that hold spiritual wicked and condemned souls and spirit... So the worms are spiritual. The Lord Jesus knows all these that's why He warned us.

At the final judgement, all of them ,will be brought out and resurrected and brought back to their earthly disgraced bodies, and if found wanting, cast into the Lake of Fire.... Just like the antichrist and false prophet

All these things you said signifies everlasting death and nothing more.
While those whose names were found written in the book of the Lamb have everlasting life.

The key interest here is
1. Everlasting life. John 3:16
And the other is the opposite which is :
2. Everlasting death or the second death which is called Lake of fire

It is not necessarily fire burning people.
It is just death, Everlasting death, the opposite of Everlasting life

ChristianMuslim:
So he's the one that will be chasing them or running after them.. your brain dey pain you

You mumu o!

What is the meaning of COMMANDER IN CHIEF?
Who send am go there?

Are you not aware that as commander in chief, even if he cannot go to the war front atleast he should show concern?

America bombed terrorists, he should give order that the military should go into the site and arrest those idiots.

But he is busy doing oambe..

Mumu irresponsible president.

Donald Trump go just dey laugh, see this one

Hell fire people

Where are all these churches that use to preach, I want you to make heaven.

Where are they?
I hardly see them these days.

For them not to continue their heaven stories anymore it shows that there is something scamming about the stories that is not sustainable anymore.

Let's say the truth from the physical stand point of view. If you are enjoying your life spending your wealth lavishly, you are in your heaven.
If you are living in poverty, no food to chop in the morning, no hope of survival for the next day, you are in your hell fire.

There is nothing more than that

DON'T USE THE WORD CALLING HERE AGAIN O!
THAT'S THE WORD PASTORS USE TO SCAM PEOPLE.

THE APPROPRIATE WORD TO USE IS CAREER!

Mosco100:
The main point of Christ's birth is to “...save his people from their sins.”(Matthew 1:21).

If people are still living in their impurity (sins)(fornication, immodesty, hate, cursing, witchcraft, sorcery, foolishness, fear, fraud, lies etc., whether they are in ‘church ’ or not, then the purpose of Christ's birth has been defeated in their lives.

Lies!

The main point of Christ's birth is for people to believe in him and be saved. John 3:16.

It has nothing to do with repentance from sin. Romans 3:28

If you repent from your sin it is for your own good. It has nothing to do with Christ

TERRORISTS ARE FLEEING AND ESCAPING IN SOKOTO, THIS ONE CALLED HIMSELF COMMANDER IN CHIEF, STILL DEY LAGOS DEY DO OAMBE?

GOD HAVE MERCY O, WETIN DO NIGERIA LIKE DIS

Janosky:
Matt 6:9-10 & Daniel 2:44 is self explanatory.

Those who neglect God's purpose & biblical patterns can't understand Daniel 2:44 & Matt 6:9-10.

I laugh una

Even a 12 years old child in Christianity with his little bible knowledge, can relate Daniel's prophecies to all the parables Jesus said about God's kingdom and tell you exactly what Jesus meant by God's kingdom.

And i can sense that you are someone above 30 years old if I'm not mistaken. And you are just wasting in your kingdom halls

I ask you the question again, what is God's kingdom?
Give me straight answer

Janosky:
Oga stop deceiving yourself with spurious claims.

Cointer what i have just said with reasonable explanation, you can't.

Jesus Christ said it, nothing is hidden under the sun.

Anything you find yourself doing continually that you do not have a clear picture or have a reasonable explanation of how it works, check it, there is high probability that you are being deceived. It's like a ponzi scheme.

That's how your kingdom hall is doing you people

Every pastor is a sinner like everyone else!
You people should leave them alone let them enjoy their lives, they are fellow humans

Dogalmighty17:
This is my issue with Trump. He loses focus easily. This bombing campaign will need to be sustained for the long term. It is an embarrassment that Nigeria has allowed this thing to fester for this long.

And you do not have a word of appreciation to Mr Trump for doing this for free?

You are saying it as if you are entitled to it?

DSS1335:
Same Jesus who taught far and wide to the meek, to the lowly and to the haughty Pharisees and Sadducees about the kingdom of God

what is the kingdom of God that Jesus Christ thought?

You people read bible to look at patterns thereby neglecting purpose

MaxInDHouse:
Topic of your thread:
Jehovah's Witnesses Do Not Celebrate Christmas Because They Are Not Christians
So Deeperlife, MFM and others who don't celebrate Christmas are also not Christians!🤣

wrong deduction

Deeper life, MFM and others have their reasons not to celebrate Christmas. This reasons are not because they are not Christians.
But for Jehovah witnesses, the reason is clearly because they are not Christians because they trickly reject Jesus Christ which Deeper life, MFM and others have not done.

If one do not properly analyse your doctrines, they will never know that by your tricks, you reject Jesus Christ.

Many of you don't even know that!
You are just floating in your kingdom halls.

Watchtower is another religion entirely from Christianity.

We also have similar others like Ekankaar, Amok, etc. All these religions make reference to Jesus Christ in the bible too, like Jehovah witnesses.
Even Muslims do

Who is this one? Do you understand the argument at all?

Janosky:
[b]Oga, stop deceiving yourself.
Can you name the first century believer who celebrated birthday?

same question i asked the person i quoted

The person I quoted said "there's no record in the Bible that the first century Christians celebrated Jesus birthday.

And i asked him, But there are records in the bible that the first century Christians celebrated their birthday and marriages?

He could not answer the question.

Your Bible is filled with records of marriages hosted by God's people .
Jesus attended marriage feast, that's a sign of approval.

Which birthday celebration did he attend or host?
Oga, be reasonable jare.

ok, how about school party children celebrates in schools?

Is there any record in the bible to show that Jesus approved children party in schools?

Or una dey Jones?

Janosky:
LoL, just kuantinu in your ....

be careful

But study the screenshot.

Not all pastor's opinion are fact

DSS1335:
The only recorded birthday celebration in the Bible was that of Pharaoh and king Herold. Both of them do not worship the God of the Hebrew, the progenitor of Christianity. Both birthday celebration was marked by beheading. Pharaoh has his cupbearer beheaded while Herold authorize the beheading of the outspoken John the Baptist, the same John the Baptist that Baptized Jesus. Furthermore there is no record of Jesus celebrating his birthday or his earliest Christians. Don't you think if the celebration was necessary he would have commanded his followers to keep celebrating it in his honor just same way he did his death?

What i know is that, it is not unlawful to have reasons to celebrate anything worth celebrating even though the celebration may not be necessary

DSS1335:
What do you have to say of Pastor Williams Kumuyi of deeper life ministries who withdrew from Christmas celebration in December 2013 calling it pagans celebration?

His argument that Christmas is pagan celebration does not follow.

I mean, we all know about Christ that he was born into this world as a child. So if any Christian based on this belief want to celebrate his birth, why not?

No Christian who celebrates Jesus birth worldwide has ever mentioned any pagan god, or did Kumuyi see any such Christian?

paltielx:
If they don't celebrate Christmas I can't say they're wrong by not celebrating it, Jesus Christ did not command Christians to celebrate his birthday, there's no record in the Bible that the first century Christians celebrated his birthday and there's no evidence Jesus was born that day.
Actually Christmas has pagans origin

But there are records in the bible that the first century Christians celebrated their birthday and marriages?

Is birthday and marriage celebrations wrong?