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ebubeson:
Do you know singing, anointing, power, good preaching, prayers, good church, good pastor, positive confession, impact, evangelism, crying during worship, dancing like David danced, giving, having a good heart e.t.c, are good but cannot take you to heaven if you do not have holiness attached to it?

God may overlook certain things to bless you on earth, but He will never overlook holiness when it comes to you entering heaven.

Again, God makes holiness achievable if you hunger and thirst after righteousness. But many people are not so desperate for righteousness. Matthew 5:6 "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled"

Hebrew 12:14 "Follow peace with all men, and holiness without which no man shall see the Lord"

How do you get holiness?

It's deficiency of phosphorus in older leaves and nothing more

Who says Elon Musk was never in Christ or are you on his mind?

BafanaBafana:
That's what the unions are for. Protecting it's members from slavery. The Indian managers at Dangote wants to treat workers as they like hence, their opposition to the union.

There is nothing like Indian managers.
Whoever they are, it is Aliko Dangote that empowered them to run his refinery the way he want it.

If PENGASSAN cannot comply to the company's rules, then they should find their way.
Afterall there are many oil companies. Dangote refinery is not the only

RayRay06677:
If the said lecturers are ASUU members, then it's right.

the question is, were they ASUU as at the time they were employed?
The answer is no!

Or didn't they agree with the terms and conditions of their employment?

And if such lecturers wants to join ASUU, nobody can stop them because it's their constitutional rights

Then it is also the constitutional right of the employer as a private business man to sack them anytime he want

and also if they don't want to join as it is presently, no union can force them to join. It's their right to join or not to join.

they only have the right to join when their employer have approved of it. Otherwise they will seek employment elsewhere and join anything they want.
Afterall it's not Dangote refinery that is the only oil company

Back to dangote, it's workers applied to join and pengassan accepted them. What did pengassan or the workers do wrong.

why will the workers applied to join without the consent of their private principal, is that constitutional ?

No matter the amount of money or companies including refineries, no man can be the law for a sovereign nation like Nigeria. Our

And you think that before Federal government gave Dangote the licence to operate Federal government have not gone through their industrial laws governing their employment and labour?

Constitution remains supreme, it's not about your emotions here but the law.

there is no where in the Nigerian constitution that does not give a private establishment to sack it workers when they bridge their internal laws.

Banks, schools, hospitals, hotels and other private business have their constitutional rights to sack their workers anytime they are found wanting

Look at it this way :

Igbindion university, a private owned university sacks it lecturers and ASUU says it want to embark on nation wide strike. Does that make sense?

Is this the content of our constitution?

Good speech!

But it is still full of unnecessary figure of speeches as if you want to teach English people literature in English.

Donald Trump presented his own literally and straight to the point without a single figure of speech so that no one will be confused at any point. But Africans always will not want to be straightforward in their ways but want to be crooked

Why?

gohf:
more like poison than food,

it require you thinking to see the food in it. Otherwise, it is poison you will see

don't you think, seeing as you didn't reveal the aim or benefit the manipulator gets from the manipulation you accuse him of.

At least show us your rational.

Actually, it is today churches are unconsciously portraying him as a manipulator by teaching that God created man into this world that is full of calamity only for him to send Jesus Christ to deliver man way from this calamity world into a safe heaven someday.

Are churches saying that God did not know what he was doing when he created man into this world that is full of calamity in the first place?

MaxInDHouse:
Politics has done this to you my guy but it's OK just try not to hate people around you because that's what politics does to nice people poisoning their minds against neighbors!

Leave politics out of religion.

Answer the religious question, Why is it that the verdict of painful labour during childbirth was unjudiously circulated to women all over the world, yet it was only Eve and her husband that disobeyed God?

Gabrielshow24:
So in your eyes, ’man's transformation’ is ’God's perfection’?

Is the same question the op is asking, Did God create man into calamity, then delivers him to prove a point?

Obviously man's transformation from calamity isn't the same as God's perfection through deliverance from sin

Wowo Champion don lose again

fuckingAyaya:
The world was a perfect place before man rebelled against God.
Do you expect only Adam and eve to be only occupants on earth?

No!

And why is it that it was only Adam and Eve that sinned, yet everyone else suffered the consequence of their action?

Why is it that the verdict of painful labour during childbirth was unjudiously circulated to women all over the world, yet it was only Eve and her husband that disobeyed God?

MaxInDHouse:
The English used in different versions of the Bible makes people think differently but it means the same thing.

Further, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28 NWT


God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” ‭Genesis 1:28 NIV‬

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Genesis 1:28 KJV

As you can see the word means fill the planet!

So, why did your organization deceived people that the world was going to end in 1914 ?

Gabrielshow24:
Everything God made in the beginning was good, thus there is some degree of perfection to it.

Does replenishment negate ’perfection’?

The earth was good when God created it, but it wasn't perfect the way he wanted it.
Till this moment it is yet to be perfect, though it is gradually coming up through the activities of mankind.

Imagine how your environment used to be some 500 to 800 years ago. It could probably be bushy like one thick forest.
But today, the same place has been transformed over the centuries

fuckingAyaya:
God created man and asked him not to eat of a specific tree less he suffer calamity, man was deceived by a woman, disobeyed God and ate of the forbidden tree hence the suffering. Who are you to blame for the suffering? man or God? If you commit a crime and got jailed for it who will you blame? yourself or the judge that sentenced you?

In order words, God did not create the calamity, man did by disobeying God?

Question, was the world a perfect place before man disobeyed God?
If yes, why then did God instruct man to replenish the world after creating him?

As a rational thinking person what do you think?

Did God create mankind into a world of suffering, calamity, poverty, sin, sorrow, weeping and crying, only for him to later send his son Jesus Christ to come and die and deliver his loving mankind from what he had created, and take him to heaven and finally destroy the same world he asked mankind to replenish?

What point is God trying to make,
Is God a manipulator?

This is a food for thought

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Though the bible mentioned clearly the working of supernatural miracles, the bible also stated that it was never so from the beginning.

God never intended to use supernatural powers to interfer with nature. He created life naturally and wanted the natural processes to overrule every atom of spiritual signs and wonders or the miraculous.

Because of this, you simply cannot pray for God to miraculously help you pass your exams without you reading your books first.
Or you building castle in the air without you laying the foundation.

Many of you that ran to churches for one miracle or the other, or you ran to one babalawo or juju shrine or witchcraft, ofcourse your experience is that you were being scammed.

The bottom-line of the matter is, the spirit is in your heart and nothing more than that.
You that practice love to your neighbour according to the teachings of Jesus Christ you are more powerful than any pastor, babalawo, juju or witchcraft you can ever think of.

The spirit is simply your faith in Christ.
That means those that have faith in Mohammed, that is one spirit in them.
Those that have faith in juju, or traditional fetishes, that is another spirit in them

We see spirit as the religion you practice and nothing more.

There is absolutely nothing to be scared of

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Nonsense post!

If all these rubbish are true, let CNN news carry it

Inspite all these scriptures as proof, do Christians in Africa believe that resurrection is real?

Their interest is how to secure the food they will eat the next morning

tesseract:
The Bible will not mention them if they didn't exist or are not real.
Sorcery just like necromancy, spellcasting or spellbinding, projections, astrology etc...all of these are just different branches of witchcraft. Like I said earlier, continue being delusional.

All these things you mentioned, can one explain how they work?
The answer is yes!

They are all intellectual manipulations.
They are like using cards to do a magician trick which require a highly logical and intellectual ability to understand.

And because their methodologies are complex in nature, very few people are talented enough to follow their workability critically and successfully.

So when someone is saying witch, it does not necessarily mean a spirit manipulation as Africans think it is.

It's just like saying someone is a computer wizard

And that thing you said about only the new testament era using the word sorcerer is totally false.

let me repeat myself again incase you don't understand.

I said word usage changes with time and that is very correct.

Certain words we use today in our current day dictionary were never used hundreds of years ago

You're not only delusional but you argue without knowledge. I rest my case

One more question for you.

Define the word SPIRITUAL?

Black man, una get sense so?

tesseract:
Please go back to the Bible, where you started from, leave the European dictionary. You are only trying to be clever by the half.

No!

Me and you can never be clever than Europeans who brought Christianity to Africa.
There is nothing we can do in our own African tradition to understand bible more than them.

Also, why didn't you address the other points I made? The Bible clearly differentiates between sorcery and witchcraft, I have made that very clear. Simon was a sorcerer and the woman at Endor was a witch.

Sorcerer, witchcraft are the same synonyms that can be used interchangeably for the word magician.

They are simply magician and nothing more.
Only that new testament era will use the word soccerer which tells you that word usage changes over time.

Witches are real, you can remain in your delusions, but don't be spreading deception.

the funny thing about you africsns is that when you people face misfortunes in life which is common everywhere you quick to blame witchcraft that do not exist.

A man who did not send his child to school in the 1960s will probably have his grand children suffering poverty in 2025. Then the grand children will start blaming witches or family attacks that really do not exist in the first place.
Then they keep going to church for prayers but of no vail

Who is deceiving who?

Moderator101:
Okay, how about demons?

Also called devils in bible days.
They only exist as Satan or evil spirits in humans who oppose God or causes humans to be mentally sick with violent symptoms, lacking love to fellow humans

They are simply evil spirits, unlike God who is love and his angels who are good spirits.

Note : God is everywhere, but angels and demons only exist in our minds therefore they are only real in human actions.
Not that angels or demons are real as humans who have bodies.

The same thing with water spirits, witchcraft, juju etc.
They are not real.

Meaning, a witch can just be someone who refuses to do what is right when he is required to do what is right

tesseract:
You see yourself? She was a sorceress, but the Bible didn't call her the 'Sorceress of Endor', the Bible called her the 'Witch of Endor'.

that means you have failed to grasp or understand the concept of the word witch as used in ancient times compared to as used in modern day English.

Anyway, Europeans who brought Christianity to Africa knows better. That's why they have defined the word properly in their English dictionary

Meanwhile, Africans are confused about it

almarthins:
Our juju or branch of African witchcraft is primitive that of white witchcraft.

Where oyinbo get alchemy? Alchemy na branch of witchcraft, the same source of Chemistry wey many people dey study for school today. And many people like you don't even knw where it came from.

My late grandma would say " oyinbo get witchcraft pass black man, and there witch no near house."
You go even see as them dey always meticulously do things and never give up. Stubborness na nature of a mean witch - dem no dey tire and dem no dey surrender.

I no dey celebrate juju but I no deny say e exist because I don see wetin juju fit do. African juju no wear technology and science. But a white witchcraft carry everything wey be science and technology. Some scientists travel to the other world to under study their technology because it way beyond our comprehension, angelic tech no be our mate.

I know of some one who said " everything they enjoy in ada(coven) is what oyinbo is now transitioning into physical world. She mentioned flying crafts and telecommunications. It means there are things we seeing today as advancement, is what had been in a world which is unseen to our physical eyes.

There is alot going on which men are currently blind to. Whether you want to believe it or not, somethings are not superstitions or mere belief. There are invisible beings ruling and reigning in the territories of men.

Abeg no dey fight you, you fit believe anything wey u want. Everything wey I say na wetin me know and understand.

White people nor believe all these things dey work even though few of them fit dey practice magic, but it's strictly for entertainment.

Na education them know and it is working

tesseract:
Why are you contradicting yourself?
God is real, but witchcraft isn't real. Are you even thinking?

define contradiction and tell me what it means?

Some of you, you go dey talk wetin you nor know

The same Bible has an account of the witch of endor, whom king Saul went to consult. But then what do I know?

Witch of endor was a magic trick that was used to trick saul.

They call them soccerers!
Read your bible well