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RenaissanceGuy:
FYI, that term is in the Bible and was first used by Jesus Christ Himself and then also used by apostle Peter in his epistle.

But the meaning of term, you people in Africa have failed understand what it means.

Perhaps, the American traditional religious beliefs of the bible will not allow you Africans to see the truth.

But get it today that, Europeans who imported Christianity to America and Africa have the accurate concept of what born again means.

Otherwise, how will you explain?
Jesus says you must be born again.
1 John 1:9 says all have sinned, meaning no one is born again.

Is the bible contradicting itself?

I pray that Africans will become intelligent one day

RenaissanceGuy:
First and foremost, are you a born again Christian??

Even British who brought Christianity to Africa don't know anything like born again. All they know is that they are Christians.

Where did you people get this born again thing from?

Do you realize that everybody commit sin?

RenaissanceGuy:
No, that is not a religious spirit. A lot of people look up to him, and so it's very inappropriate for him to wear such in the public. Do you know the number of Christian ladies who have been avoiding wearing bikini at the beach and who'd now use this as an excuse to start doing so? It would be a case of "If this man can wear this, who are my to constrain myself?"

So ladies wearing bikini at the beach is a sin ?

How is the boxer your problem, is it not his boxer and his gym what's your own?

Good,
So sweet

Yes, the thread is also a way to expose the ignorant doctrines of Jehovah witnesses

MaxInDHouse:
"Did Jesus lied about a place called heaven?"

No, Jesus did not lie!

Jesus did not lie to say that the only place or location called heaven is in our heart.

You think you are wise?

Yes,

A Christian who want to make money from God and get rich so soon, is not different from a gambler and a fetish ritualist

JovialJune:
Yes we will emulate what Islamic schools do

And start by telling your fellow Muslims to have a thorough rethink first, since theirs always result to violence, death, and destruction.

Oya, let Oyedepo practice violence, death and destruction now let's see how it will go

Did Jesus Christ teach extremists behaviors or even retaliations, it has never taken anyone or any religion to anywhere good

JovialJune:
Same way it is in the Northern public federal universities eg BUK, an aggressive extremism on display where Christians are not allowed to set up Churches.

Must Christian schools emulate these kind of senseless things from Islamic schools?

May be Oyedepo should have a rethink

joeyswift:
How is not wearing hijab to a mission school going to affect the individual?

You are depriving her from identifying with her Islamic religious sect.

Or can Oyedepo do that to a deeper life female student who want to wear long skirts in accordance to her deeper life beliefs?

SeraphicWind:
Oga, getout of Church school system. That is Oyedepo's message.

There are many other public and private schools where hijab maybe worn. Not in Church schools.

Oyedepo is not afraid. He is worried that people of a religion whose systems are anti Christianity are encroaching into church systems.

That should and will never happen.

Church school systems and laws don't allow Hijab.

Same way Bible is not allowed in Muslim schools.

Every Christian knows too well to avoid those Islamic Schools.

It is Muslims that want to come into Church systems and start confusion.

But you people never learn unless you learn the hard way through the consuming fire of God.

cc

Amunkita.

You mean, because it is a Christian school you cannot set up a mosque for Muslim students on campus?

That's something not different from extremism

amunkita:
Same way reading Bible in the mosque won't cause any effect..

Good!

You see that?

So, what exactly is our problem, is it fear or ignorance or what?

Imagine a man with white suit and tye calling himself a man of God with all his millions of money being afraid for nothing

CrownOfClay724:
How is not imposing Hijab on mission schools going to affect the Muslims?

There are multiplicities of other schools they can go to if they can't obey the rules of the mission schools.

The question I'm asking is ,how is this rule going to make the school better?

So, how is hijab going to affect the mission school?

It's natural!

And if she can find a better happiness with another widower order than being alone, why not?

You are not different from a gambler who want to invest N100 in bet9ja to get N1million or a fetish patronizer of babalawo who sow cowries to get millions of dollars

Do you think that mysterious things happen in life?
You are in for it

There is nothing that happens in life without explanation.

You see that Billionaire that always give testimony in church? It's either he has inherited wealth and landed properties from his late father who was very wealthy or he was lucky to come across helpers in his career when he was in need.
There was never anything like testimony or mysterious happening.

But you who probably come from especially a poor polygamous home in the village and you want miracle to happen by going to church?
You will see nonsense

Because Pastor Adeboye nor send you, he is huzzling for his money.
Pastor Oyedepo nor send you, he is huzzling for his money.
Pastor Oyakhilome and Kumuyi are all huzzlers like you

So, all i will tell you is:
Believe in yourself, leave people alone,
Have a plan
Start from the scratch no matter how little,
And work towards a greater goal for yourself

MaxInDHouse:
The question i asked you is simple.

Did Jesus lied that there is a place called heaven?

He said:

“Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father" Mark 13:32

The highlighted in blue says "neither the angels in heaven"

Now you are saying there's no place called heaven so are you saying Jesus lied?

So, where exactly is the location of the place or father's house Jesus was refering to?

MaxInDHouse:
"In the house of my Father are many dwelling places. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a place for you." John 14:2

Are you saying Jesus lied?

So, where exactly is the location of the place or father's house Jesus was refering to?

MaxInDHouse:
The question i asked you is simple.

Did Jesus lied that there is a place called heaven?

He said:

“Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father" Mark 13:32

The highlighted in blue says "neither the angels in heaven"

Now you are saying there's no place called heaven so are you saying Jesus lied?

Where did you see the word PLACE in that scripture, does spirits have place?

If you are very sure of the place where spirits are located, can you point it?
Is it beyond the clouds, the air, the moon, under water, in outer space ?

where?

This man with human laws sef.

Tomorrow he will say I will remove the laws because e nor dey profit anything over the years

How does braids and eye lashes affect your message as a minister?

MaxInDHouse:
Do you believe in Jesus?

Because this is what he said:

“Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father" Mark 13:32

Please can you interpret what Jesus meant in this verse?

As at the time he was saying these thing to his disciples the kingdom of God has not yet come, but it was about to come.

That means, the kingdom of God was never with men until he died and resurrected.
So now that he has died and resurrected, the kingdom is in us.

No one knew when he was going to die and resurrect until the hour he was crucified.

MaxInDHouse:
If you want to know surely you will know but if your mind is already made up then you can have it your own way.
When Jesus said his disciples will be hated by all other religions he meant for their faith not politics because Jesus and his disciples have nothing to do with politics.

Did i mention anything politics here?

I say religious wars, not politics!

Now this is what i mean. Jesus taught his disciples never to take part in worldly politics

Did you even understand the question i ask at all?

Do you think you are in your kingdom hall where you people are brainwashed with politics talk

because according to him Satan is in charge of the politics going on around the world so a faithful person will incure bloodguilt if he participate in the world's politics.

who cares about all these your politics talk?

The Muslims you are claiming killing Christians is something that most people misconstrued because in reality Islam is political

ok, define politics!
How is politics different from religion?

so politicians seek the support of Muslims to gain power

that is not my business!

The question i ask you is, is there any religion that is not hated or have it adherents killed?

The question has nothing to do with politics

You need to think deeper in order to get the sense of what we are saying.

there are no sense in what you people are saying.

Someone is talking religion you are bringing politics, is there sense in deviating from the point?
No!

Two individuals had a conflict totally differs from when a multitude is influenced to attack neighbors who never hurt them. Did anyone support the murderer who killed his wife?
NO!

In that case there was a conflict which is cased by hatred right?

Why are you trying to say that only Jehovah witnesses can be hated?

Now, in this case, it is a Jehovah witness that hated and killed someone

But when talking about the hatred Jesus mentioned someone will just hate you to the point of killing you simply because you are from a particular tribe or you are supporting a political party

lies!

That is not what Jesus meant.

Jesus meant hatred that is caused by differences in religious affiliation, not politics.

but when two individuals had issues that's not the kind of hatred Jesus is talking about because both of them will have a reason to oppose each other but when you are hated for being a member of a particular tribe or faith that's what Jesus is saying.

lies!

There are no tribes in what Jesus meant.

You people are confused, that's why people don't take you seriously.
And when they ignore you, you will say they hate you

MaxInDHouse:
if your religion is not hated but home and abroad then know that you are not one of Jesus' true disciples it's the hatred that we must endure to the end!

Read Isaiah 43:10

is there any religion that is not hated home and abroad?

Christians were killed by Muslims in northern Nigeria is that not hatred?
Christians killed Jews during the holocaust in Germany is that not hatred?
A Jehovah witness elder murdered his wife for denouncing the congregation is that not hatred?

Really?

Z

There is nothing like Spiritual spouse, they are all African traditional superstitions.

People like D. K Olukoya and the rest who promotes superstitions in their churches in the name of performing miracles should not be listened to.

Some time ago, I went to one church at Ojodu Berger, the igbo pastor(one pastor Okafor) literally invites Kanayo o kanayo the money ritual guy, and many juju actors and actresses to come and act movies in church.
Church members saw the movies and became afraid and believe that these things were real

Good

MaxInDHouse:
Here is Jesus' words as recorded in the Bible:

‭Matthew 24:7-14 NIV‬
"Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains. “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
" Matthew 24:7-14

See what i quoted as highlighted in blue!

So false prophets and preaching to all the nations of the earth is just for Jews in Jerusalem shey?

Guy stop lying you no sabi Bible!

so, what evidence do you have to show that the once that will stand firm till the end are Jehovah witnesses?

Was Jehovah witnesses ever mentioned anywhere in the bible talkless of Jesus mentioning that he was referring to them?