MaxInDHouse: You can't put words into people's mouth and claim they are wrong. We believe Jesus is Lord and that God empowered him. During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. Hebrews 5:7 Did God empower Jesus? YES or NO!🙂
MaxInDHouse: So Elijah {1King 17:22} Elisha {2Kings 4:32-35} and Peter {Act 9:36-40} are also God? Remember each of them was empowered by God to raise the dead.
The angel that will be given the power to raise the dead is Archangel Michael {Daniel 12:2} that's why some Bible scholars believe Jesus is the same as Archangel Michael. 1Thessalonians 4:16🤔
This. your statement is proof that you Jehovah witnesses are not Christians since you believe that Jesus was empowered just like Peter and Paul.
You are equally saying that , since Peter and Paul were empowered to raise the dead, they can give eternal life through their ability to raise the dead. Therefore we don't need Jesus
Oyedepo was never interested in winning souls for Christ that's why he left kaduna. All his interest was to make money, that's why he relocated to Lagos where he can make cool business by exploiting people
Draslo: Before your programmed brain disagrees, walk with me.
America is not a Christian nation, a fact rooted deeply in its constitutional framework and historical principles. Fundamentally, the United States Constitution, through the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause, prohibits the government from establishing any official religion or favoring one over another. This clause explicitly bars the government from endorsing Christianity or any religious faith, establishing a legal boundary between church and state. This concept, often referred to as the separation of church and state, ensures that the government maintains neutrality towards all religions and allows individuals the freedom to practice their faith without government interference or preference.The phrase “separation of church and state” itself, while not originally found in the Constitution, was popularized to summarize the intent of the Establishment Clause. Thomas Jefferson famously used this metaphor in an 1802 letter to describe a “wall of separation” between religion and government. The Supreme Court has since upheld this principle, ruling against government actions that promote or inhibit religion, thus reinforcing religious neutrality at all government levels. While this does not mean the government is hostile to religion, it requires equal treatment of religious and secular beliefs and actively protects religious freedom for all.Historically, the American founding fathers held diverse views on religion. While many were culturally Christian, their beliefs ranged widely, including Christian orthodoxy, various Protestant denominations, and Deism—a belief system emphasizing reason and rejecting religious dogma. This diversity influenced their intent to create a government that neither established a religion nor infringed on individual religious liberties. Influential figures like James Madison and Thomas Jefferson championed religious freedom and saw the separation of church and state as essential to preserving liberty in a pluralistic society.Moreover, America’s religious landscape is diverse, reflecting many faiths and beliefs beyond Christianity. The government’s role is to protect this plurality, allowing citizens of all religions or none to coexist and practice freely. The states similarly adopt constitutions and laws upholding this principle of religious freedom and neutrality, further embedding the separation concept nationwide.While Christianity has played a significant cultural and historical role in American society and a majority of Americans identify as Christian, this demographic reality does not equate to a Christian nation in legal or governmental terms. The United States remains a secular republic designed to ensure freedom of religion and prevent government endorsement of any particular faith. This framework has enabled the country to accommodate growing religious diversity and uphold individual rights, distinguishing it from nations governed by official religions.In summary, America is constitutionally and legally not a Christian nation. Its founding documents explicitly prohibit establishing any religion, ensuring freedom and neutrality across all faiths. This separation of church and state was a deliberate choice by the founding fathers to protect religious liberty and maintain a government free from religious control, fostering a society where diverse beliefs can coexist equally under the law
So, a nation that Christianity interferes with it governance is a Christian nation?
MaxInDHouse: The judgment in this context is not what most people think rather it's about the 1,000 years reign of Christ. During that time mankind will be given a thousand years to live without anyone getting sick or dying, no criminals will be allowed because Christ will rule the earth using faithful people to handle matters. Revelations 20:5-6 Some people will still die during Christ's thousand year reign not due to oldage or sickness but for their unbelief after living for just 100 years! Isaiah 65:20
Before Jesus start his rulership there will be resurrection throughout the earth but who and who will be resurrected?
Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment. John 5:28-29
Note that Jesus didn't say it's Christians that will have life or unbelievers that will be judged rather he said it's about good deeds so by that time Christians will be teaching people everywhere all the good things Jesus taught in the Bible and many will respond positively but there will be people who will not agree as they will insist on practicing their former religions even when they realize that such religions no longer exist that's why they will start criticizing the Christians but after 100 years they will die without sickness or oldage.
So who are the RIGHTEOUS and who are the UNRIGHTEOUS?
The RIGHTEOUS are those who has been declared righteous by God for knowing and practicing pure worship in their past life {Hebrews 11:4-34} so they will be raised back to life so as to have their own benefits under Christ's reign! Job 14:13-15, Daniel 12:13
The UNRIGHTEOUS are people who don't know God's laws but lived by their own conscience {Romans 2:14-15} God will remember them and bring them back to life so that both faithful servants of God in ancient times and Christians may teach them how to practice pure worship.
The last and the least are the WICKED who don't care about God or virtue they lived as if there is no God {Psalms 10:4} and treated their neighbors wickedly so such ones will never be allowed to come back they will rotten in their graves forever! Psalms 9:17
Father Fell Sick ,Prayed and Prayed ,With little he had ,Took him to Hospital,Father Died .
Mother A Prayer Warrior was knocked down by a run away Bus ,He took her to the hospital,Prayed she gets well ,She Died .
Came out of school successfully after Engaging in menial jobs .With Good Results,Prayed ,Fasted ,A virgin, Haven't had sex for once , Prayed a lot ,A non Cultists.
It's after 6 years now ,No Good job ,All Opportunities turned Down.
Many interviews attended,It's been Failures .
Many Instances that brings lots of Confusions .
Visited 4 Notable mountains of Prayer for a Change .
DOES PRAYERS WORKS.
First of all, define the word prayer according to you
AKONE: The primary goal of the Church is to raise Disciples of Christ,
And recently, all churches in Nigeria have failed in this aspect . Over the decades, They are busy recycling disciples with the aim of making money from the gullible, instead of raising disciples
not Politicians. The Church is not a political party.
the person you quoted did not mention politicians or political parties.
Read again what he has said
However if Church members are correctly discipled, they will make a mark in any sphere of life they find themselves, including politics. Good governance, justice and equity are by-products of correct discipleship.
very true! And that comes with, atleast a sincere intellectual discuss on issues that bothers the happiness of church members including good governance, justice and fair hearing
If you don't need a Church that preaches the cross, it means you don't need Christ, and you don't need Christianity, because the cross the the core message of Christianity.
This is the primary reason why we are Christians and by divine providence, this has been settled. John 19:30
So, preaching of the Cross isn't an issue that bothers Christians. It should be preached as a reminder to remain in the faith or to let the world know what we represent
It is not true that there are no Churches that don't preach themselves things.
if they are truly there, they will shine their light and dominate these charlatans seen everywhere. They are charlatans because the more their branches are opened everywhere on the streets, the more the country is growing from worse to worst.
Churches were suppose to be solution to problems and not being a contributing factor
What you hear from most Churches today are prosperity/enemy driven messages, not the message of the cross.
It appears to me that you do not have any idea what Christianity is about. I pray that you encounter Christ.
do Christians in Nigeria know what Christianity is all about? How is that possible?
How are we even sure that the missionaries who preached Christianity to Africans centuries ago, thought us the right thing?
This is our current lives we are talking about here and it is a very important aspect to reconsider
Truthseeker10: So explain how we can achieve good governance, justice and equity for all citizens irrespective of religions, tribes and culture in order to maintain a sustainable living.
You know you will never get it from the bible! This is where education comes in
AKONE: If everyone feels at home—Muslim, atheist, adulterer, fornicator, fraudster, liar—and no one ever feels convicted… then my friend, that’s not church. That’s spiritual palliative care.
I didn’t expect a revelation in a barbershop, but God has a way of confronting you in everyday moments. I was sitting there, minding my business, listening to the usual banter—football, politics, who owes who money—when a man dropped a statement that shook me to the core.
He said his friend recruits people for arranged miracles. Paid-for testimonies. Choreographed “deliverances.” Fake healings.
I felt the air thicken. But then he said something even more unbelievable:
“I’m a Muslim… but I go to church every week.”
He wasn’t joking. He wasn’t whispering. He said it confidently, like someone announcing their favourite bar.
And I froze inside.
A Muslim. In church. Weekly. Comfortably. Unchallenged. Unmoved. Unconvicted.
How?
What exactly is that church preaching? Who exactly are they worshipping? How can a man sit under the so-called gospel of Jesus Christ—week after week—and feel no conflict in his spirit?
Jesus literally said, “No one comes to the Father except through Me.” (John 14:6) Yet somehow, the Jesus being preached in some churches today never confronts, never convicts, never converts.
I sat there thinking, This cannot be the gospel.
Then it hit me with painful clarity:
We are witnessing the rise of the All-Comers Church—the church where everyone is welcome because no truth is preached strongly enough to challenge anyone.
Come as you are… and by all means, stay exactly as you are. Live however you like… and we’ll never mention repentance. Keep your sin… and we’ll keep the offering basket moving.
I once saw a church proudly declare in their statement of belief that they welcomes all regardless of sexual practice or orientation. Not past mistakes—present practice. As if Jesus says, “Follow Me… but live however you desire.”
But when Jesus met sinners, He didn’t clap for their lifestyle. He didn’t wink at their choices. He didn’t water down the message. He said, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 4:17)
He welcomed them with love, yes. But He transformed them with truth.
Today, many churches offer love without truth. Comfort without conviction. Acceptance without transformation. Grace without repentance. A saviour without a cross.
And this is why sinners sit comfortably. This is why backsliders feel at peace. This is why unbelievers worship without ever believing. This is why demons feel at home.
Because nothing challenges them.
But hear me: A gospel that doesn’t confront cannot convert. A sermon that doesn’t pierce cannot purify. A church that avoids sin cannot save sinners.
Paul said, “I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God unto salvation.” (Romans 1:16) But what we call gospel today often has no power at all. It offends no one because it transforms no one.
And if the message in your church can’t disturb the old man inside you, it definitely won’t birth the new man God is calling you to be.
The early church turned cities upside down. Today’s church struggles to turn people’s hearts the right way up.
We don’t need more entertaining churches. We need more awakening churches. Churches that preach repentance. Churches that preach holiness. Churches that preach the cross. Churches that preach Jesus—not vibes, not feelings, not motivational quotes.
Because the house of God was never meant to be the all-comers club. It was meant to be the place where all who come encounter Christ—and leave changed
We don't need churches that preach repentance, holiness and the Cross.
Currently, there are no churches that don't preach all these things you mentioned, yet impunity is everywhere .
We need churches that are realistic. We need churches that when you go there every Sunday, all they discuss are ways to achieve good governance, justice and equity for all citizens irrespective of their religions, tribes and culture in order to maintain a sustainable living.
All these repentance this.. Holiness that.. Miracle this.. Prayer that... They are all hypocrisy. They do not address issues the way they are
To this, it seems Nigeria is yet to have one single church, even though there are churches scattered everywhere.
And always remember, The likes of Jehovah witnesses are not church. It seems they are evil cult seeing that they are indifferent to governance and the gospel of eternal life preached by Jesus Christ
Putindbutt: As in, Tuggar burst my brain gan. The woman was running her mouth at the beginning but by the time Tuggar exposed and finished her, she could speak anymore. He told her that they should focus on their new project, this one they're trying to pull off has failed them already. . It's good to have a round peg in a round hole, if Ramaphosa had a foreign minister as this, he would not have faced such humiliation.
Tuggar na the fo. Ol for inside dier.
They asked him, are Christians not killed too? All he did was emotional outbursts, who cares about emotions for intellectual congress matter?
Muslims who don't buy their ideology are targeted. Christians are targeted because they don't buy their ideology. So what's now the difference of this situation with Christian killing, are Christians not also killed?
HawkTuahGirl: I now believe that Pastor Adeboye and all Lagos pastors that are not speaking up against the Christian Genocide in Nigeria are FAKE MOGs.
They will be telling us Nicki Minaj is a worldly singer, but she spoke despite knowing that some of her fans will cancel her.
From next Sunday, its Nicky Minaj I want to minister to me, she is more holy than all of your daddies in the lord.
First of all, no one is holier than another in this Christianity. Secondly, these pastors may not even be aware of the magnitude of the killings at their comfort zones in the south
MaxInDHouse: That's the world's definition it doesn't go well with Jesus' definition. According to Jesus all his disciples should have the same line of thought {John 17:22} so that the love they share among themselves is really strong that nothing not even politics, racism or riches could break our brotherhood. 1Corinthans 1:10; 1Peter 3:8 So this idea of different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming believers in Christ doesn't add up going by Jesus' point of view neither does it work with his first century disciples!😟
Ok, keep deceiving yourselves
Because as far as reality is concern, we are living in the world
EnlightenUp: There’s a kind of pain many Christians don’t talk about, the pain that comes from the very place meant to heal you.
Some of us walked into church looking for refuge and walked out carrying wounds we’re still too ashamed to mention. Not because we don’t love God, but because the people we trusted misrepresented Him. It’s a silent crisis in the Christian community: It affects your faith, your prayer life, your trust, and sometimes even your picture of God.
Many believers are silently bleeding because they don’t know how to explain what they’re feeling without being judged, misunderstood, or labeled “rebellious.”
Have you ever been hurt by someone in church and didn’t know who to tell?
Have you ever loved Jesus but feared going back to a church building?
Have you ever been made to feel guilty for speaking up?
Or did you ever leave quietly just to protect your peace? Many people carry these experiences, but silence has been killing them slowly.
In this short summary, I won’t dive into everything yet, but let me say this:
There’s a kind of pain that hides behind worship songs. There’s a kind of confusion that makes you love Jesus but fear His people. There’s a kind of betrayal that makes you question your own discernment.
And if you’ve ever felt any of these, you’re not alone, you’re not crazy, and you’re not faithless. In the full guide, I break down the real signs, the silent battles nobody talks about, the mistakes people make while trying to heal, and the practical + biblical steps that actually help you recover your peace, rebuild trust, and find your way back to God without guilt or pressure.
I also included something many Christians have never had access to before: a simple but powerful 7-step recovery framework, plus how to forgive without being foolish, how to set boundaries without guilt, and how to know whether to stay or leave a hurting church.
If you’ve been wounded by leaders, church politics, manipulation, gossip, or spiritual pressure… this might be the most healing thing you’ll read this year. Full guide (including recovery steps, signs, boundaries & more) available by tapping my profile
If anyone hurt you in church, that is nothing compared to the one the pastor is hiding biblical truth just to make money from your ignorance.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lost Soul Speaks In Hell by paxonel(m): 9:00pm On Dec 02, 2025
