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Questionnaires:Because they are clowns, all of them. Their leader said the world was going to end in 1914, yet they do not debunk that till now They also teach that God is going to set up a new government that will be antagonistic to human governments, yet they are subjected to the same human government. Confused people. ![]() |
Telling a Christian that he should give his life to Christ is like telling a child of the president or King to become a child of the president or king that he already is.. It amount to a contradiction. Giving your life to Christ is not the same thing as repentance When a pastor make an altar call, that church members should come out and give their lives to Christ, it shows how ignorant and deficient in scriptures the pastor has made himself to be. As a pastor, you either call out church members to repent of their sin, or to renew their commitment in church, or for communion ,etc Therefore engaging in evangelism as Paul the apostle and other early Christians did, entails bringing a non Christian into the kingdom. Not bringing someone who is already a Christian that is committing sin. Though, repentance was part of their preaching, but it was never a requirement to be a Christian. Who is an unbeliever? An unbeliever is someone that does not believe Examples of non Christians are Muslims, atheists, judaists, traditionalists, etc Take note that these people can be morally upright as Christians too. Meaning of the word TO CONVERT someone The Oxford dictionary defines the word CONVERT as the definite and decisive adoption of another religion This implies that when a Christian preaches to a Muslim for example, about Christ, and the Muslim begins to adopt Christianity, then the Christian has converted the Muslim. Not a Christian preaching to a Christian. . |
gohf:if Adeboye had made the statement as a parable to mean that he had communion, no wahalla. But for him to out rightly say he drank tea with God? That means, he is bent at putting his church members who believed so much of what he says into confusion. And certainly, deep inside some members who have sense, they will think that this man is a joke but they will not say it out to him. I don't care about his possible personal issues with other ministers, let him just leave the scriptures out of it when attacking them. Let's know he is an attacker not a gospel preacher.pastor Adeboye put himself into that position where he is attacked, so it is his fault. |
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If you are tempted to think that this has a spiritual course, then the problem is coming from your mind, not the incident. And meanwhile, innovative people are traveling to the moon and could settle on satellites on space without the fear of heights But Africans, una go dey FEAR THE UNKNOWN, fear nature. fear tree fear bird (dead bird for that matter, una nor well o) fear lizard fear table fear sky fear water Cast and bind air Wetinnn? Shhe bi na religion and tradition dey do una? No wonder juju man and even pastors dey scam una dey buy private jets from una head and live in affluence. Because una nor get sense. Even politicians dey use una kpa, when una won wake up? Ya' all need phobia deliverance, wallai !, and only education will deliver you |
gohf:The Abel Damina don't need any prayer, the man said the truth. No one can drink tea with God, simple |
STAY AWAY FROM DRUGS, MAN ALL YOUR POSTS ARE SHOWING THAT YOUR MENTAL HEALTH IS DETERIORATING |
creativeworld:So this pastor don comfess now, that pastors generally use tithe money to build house with AC for themselves. Oyedepo's house is AC? |
where is the mumu mannagrills that used to call Buhari my darling president?
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budaatum: ![]() To me, i think this episode of Adam and Eve eating from a tree that was not meant for them to eat is a story for babies to understand. In reality, I think it was a sin of rebellion |
Techobeys:I never said Adam and Eve were made to sin. As a matter of fact, the decision to sin or not to sin were theirs, not the serpent If you’re a realistic human being, think of the snake realistically. What’s that one thing that can speak to you and cause you to question God’s commandments? Is that thing the devil?ofcourse you can call it the devil. But that devil is not a spirit that has power to manipulate or dominate your decision. It can just be a thought of the mind or someone else trying to trick you to question God. In either way, you can decide not to heed to it. When you do that, it means it does not exist |
Techobeys:because if Adam and Eve did not sinned, then there would have been no need of devil. This also implies that if we too do not sin, then there is no need for devil. His existence is tied to us sinning. Meaning, if we do not sin, then he does not exist. And even if we find ourselves sinning, then we should take responsibility for our actions and should not blame the devil which really do not exist. Infact, we do exist and are more significant than one abstract entity called the devil. Or have you ever heard anyone who is indicted of committing a crime saying na devil cause am? He will face the consequences of his actions alone without any devil |
IN OTHER WORDS, EVERYONE WILL DIE SOMEDAY. IT'S NOT A NEWS |
Techobeys:you see, what we call the devil is just simply consequences. And what we call Angel or God's intervention is also simply consequences. In this life, You can't plant potato only to reap banana, it's not possible. If anyone is unconscious, then he is unconscious and knows nothing pending when he recovers. At that point, the only thing that speaks for him is what he has done before he became unconscious. If he was a wicked person around, then there is likelyhood that he will get little help and may not survive. That situation were he gets little help that eventually kills him becomes the devil. This is one practical way we can see devil, There is no devil anywhere. Another way we can see devil is on the spiritual point of view as it concerns most scriptures in the bible, the devil is simply any religion that is against God. Mark it, the devil or Satan is ANY RELIGION OR FAITH. for instance, 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. |
budaatum:absolutely |
Techobeys:so what's the difference? The devil cannot operate because you forgive, how then does he exist? His existence is rendered useless by his inability to operate, therefore he exist for nothing which amount to him not existing at all This doesn’t in any way infer that the devil doesn’t exist, it’s just speaking about grounds of operation of the devil.that is, the operation of the devil is solely determined by our actions, for instance if we forgive or not? We are saying the same thing now. Obviously, we are the devil, and we can also be the Angel. There is nothing more than that |
It seems this satanism is a religious sect under the religion called atheism |
CaptainJune:the cardinal points are not just only four, so he could not possibly refer to the cardinal points. Look at the chart below. That was how people used to understand the earth in ancient times The same Isaiah in Isaiah 40:22 knew the earth was circle in shape thousands of years before the flat earth debate and space exploration.the chart is even showing a circle inbetween the four corners. So? If John was not taken to heaven then where ws he taken that he saw Jesus, the Father, the 24 elders, innumerable angels, the saints, the martyred under the altar?you know, you people believe in rapture? I'm saying that John could not possibly be raptured. He actually saw the vision of heaven here on earth
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denisbid:Exactly! I will say, it's either he saw a vision in the clouds at that point, that means he did not see real pictures of Jesus at the right side of God. Or they were mere imaginations or beliefs of his heart that was transmitted to his eyes. Whatever he saw can be interpreted rightly that Jesus is approved of God, simple. Hmm!And you will agree with me that these assumptions of mine, if carefully followed scripturally, you will see the correlation |
CaptainJune:Here is another one ![]() Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth Your question is like asking, did Isaiah saw the four corners of the earth before mentioning it? Does the earth have four corners? Is Jesus and God in the clouds?. You must understand that certain descriptions used in the bible was meant for people in that era to understand, not for people of today anymore. Because, people of today, we know better now ![]() Apostle John described seeing God seated on a throne and the four living creatures worshiping Him. When he was taken into heaven to see this vision did he have to pass the planets, the solar system before getting to heaven?John was never taken to heaven, read the bible again. Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, On the Lord's day This means, it was as of he died and later came back to life. Remember, i have been saying on this thread that our death marks the day of judgement, which is the day of the Lord. He says behold i come quickly. It is appointed once for men to die... |
denisbid:Heaven is right in our body, that's where God resides. If this truth is not steaked somewhere into our head and we keep looking for God elsewhere, then we will continue to be confused by religion. |
denisbid:OK, how about this? ![]() 1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? Do you have any scripture that says otherwise or any scripture indicating that God is somewhere beyond the clouds order than our body? You will never see any such scripture. And i keep wonder, if you are raptured to the clouds, you will end up meeting dead bodies like jupiter, Saturn, Uranius and Neptune, not God ![]() |
denisbid:and I keep asking the question, where is this heaven? Have you ever bothered to ask the same question too? |
denisbid:they fail to understand that they cannot win arguments with fallacies ![]() Even if what they are saying is true, with fallacies they are locked |
denisbid:Like i have said before, Jesus has come already, so the said tribulation as a sign of his coming happened approximately 2000 years ago when he came. So don't expect any sign called tribulation anymore. Everything misfortune you see as tribulation today have no connection with any coming of Christ. People are confusely being drunk with a mental shift by religion, example is that peecruz or whatever he called himself that seems like water is filled his brain, i have already marked his moniker along with the list of mentally derailed people on this forum ![]() |
Veecruz:Look my friend, what you are experiencing now that you are calling tribulation is no where to be compared to what people experienced during the slave trade era. So, stop shouting |
Veecruz:You believe so much in conspiracy theories and that is the greatest decision. Do you realize that tribulations like these have been through out the history of mankind? |
Veecruz:You know why you are scared of quoting out the scripture? Because they are telling you people lies Thus, it cannot be in the graveRevelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Can you boldly say that these people whose names were not written in the book of life were not dead people? and neither could there be "he comes everyday"for the fact that you see people dying everyday, it means that Christ is coming everyday to judge. He says "BEHOLD I COME QUICKLY. From common sense, It follows that since veryone have their own time to die,hence they have their different time of judgement. Judgement is not just one last judgement. Judgement is everyday. It is appointed once for men to die, after that the judgement. It means that the judgement is only for the dead. |
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Templee333:That statement was spoken figuratively to portray what will happen when Christ is crucified. The stars falling from heaven simply mean that there was a total darkness the day Jesus was crucified. Luke 23:44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. I just said that the first category of his coming is his crucifixion and resurrection which has nothing to do with the second category ie Death of humans. Don't be confused about these : Christ is truly coming. He has been coming through death |
Veecruz:Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children.. Is good seed the same as children? If it is the same, how then is that logic of Jesus Christ stupid? Can't you think? |
Veecruz:whatever we call tribulation today is not what the bible is referring to as great tribulation What a mad delusion you carry.search yourself. The truth has nothing to with anyone's emotions |
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