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Christianity EtcRe: Why Are So Many Christians Against Jehovah Witnesses ? Why ? by paxonel(m):
Questionnaires:
Why Are So Many Christians Against Jehovah Witnesses ? Why ?
Because they are clowns, all of them.

Their leader said the world was going to end in 1914, yet they do not debunk that till now

They also teach that God is going to set up a new government that will be antagonistic to human governments, yet they are subjected to the same human government.
Confused people. cheesy
Christianity EtcThere Is No Point Telling A Christian That He Should Give His Life To Christ by paxonel(op): 7:04am On Apr 07, 2024
Telling a Christian that he should give his life to Christ is like telling a child of the president or King to become a child of the president or king that he already is..
It amount to a contradiction.

Giving your life to Christ is not the same thing as repentance

When a pastor make an altar call, that church members should come out and give their lives to Christ, it shows how ignorant and deficient in scriptures the pastor has made himself to be. As a pastor, you either call out church members to repent of their sin, or to renew their commitment in church, or for communion ,etc

Therefore engaging in evangelism as Paul the apostle and other early Christians did, entails bringing a non Christian into the kingdom.
Not bringing someone who is already a Christian that is committing sin.

Though, repentance was part of their preaching, but it was never a requirement to be a Christian.

Who is an unbeliever?
An unbeliever is someone that does not believe

Examples of non Christians are Muslims, atheists, judaists, traditionalists, etc
Take note that these people can be morally upright as Christians too.

Meaning of the word TO CONVERT someone

The Oxford dictionary defines the word CONVERT as the definite and decisive adoption of another religion

This implies that when a Christian preaches to a Muslim for example, about Christ, and the Muslim begins to adopt Christianity, then the Christian has converted the Muslim.
Not a Christian preaching to a Christian.
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Christianity EtcRe: Abel Damina Needs Our Prayers by paxonel(m): 8:54pm On Apr 06, 2024
gohf:
is it only about drinking tea, did the Lord not eat the meal Abraham prepared.
Did the resurrected Jesus, who is at the right hand of the Father, not eat fish. Did the Torah not record the elders who ascended to share a meal with the Lord.
if Adeboye had made the statement as a parable to mean that he had communion, no wahalla.
But for him to out rightly say he drank tea with God? That means, he is bent at putting his church members who believed so much of what he says into confusion.
And certainly, deep inside some members who have sense, they will think that this man is a joke but they will not say it out to him.
I don't care about his possible personal issues with other ministers, let him just leave the scriptures out of it when attacking them. Let's know he is an attacker not a gospel preacher.
pastor Adeboye put himself into that position where he is attacked, so it is his fault.
PoliticsRe: FG Unveils Plans To Launch A New National Identity Card With Special Features by paxonel(m): 12:25pm On Apr 06, 2024
nimc commercial bank with ATM known as national identity card loading
Christianity EtcRe: Does This Have Any Spiritual Meaning? by paxonel(m):
If you are tempted to think that this has a spiritual course, then the problem is coming from your mind, not the incident.

And meanwhile, innovative people are traveling to the moon and could settle on satellites on space without the fear of heights

But Africans, una go dey FEAR THE UNKNOWN,
fear nature.
fear tree
fear bird (dead bird for that matter, una nor well o)
fear lizard
fear table
fear sky
fear water
Cast and bind air

Wetinnn?

Shhe bi na religion and tradition dey do una?

No wonder juju man and even pastors dey scam una dey buy private jets from una head and live in affluence. Because una nor get sense.

Even politicians dey use una kpa, when una won wake up?

Ya' all need phobia deliverance, wallai !, grin
and only education will deliver you
Christianity EtcRe: Abel Damina Needs Our Prayers by paxonel(m): 6:53pm On Apr 05, 2024
gohf:
Good afternoon everyone. I don't know if you have heard of pastor Abel Damina. Please I believe he and many men of God need prayers.

We all need prayers, I feel like there's a spirit of confusion blowing at the world.

Honestly I don't know how to put it, but if it is possible for a man of God to teach error, may God help me not to teach any error and also not be arrogant in talking correction.

The more confusion and errors, the more the truth is attacked, rejected and the growth of believers affected. Meeting new confused believers breaks my heart, the internet is a good thing but it's can also be poisonous.

Please pray. Let God make his gospel and truth louder. Let him back up his truth with power, healings, miracles, deliverance of souls. Let God drive the spread of his word, his gospel. Let all lies, and falsehood even through me be buried.
The Abel Damina don't need any prayer, the man said the truth.
No one can drink tea with God, simple
Christianity EtcRe: . by paxonel(m):
STAY AWAY FROM DRUGS, MAN

ALL YOUR POSTS ARE SHOWING THAT YOUR MENTAL HEALTH IS DETERIORATING
Christianity EtcRe: Prop. Miracle Blast Pst Damina Who Rubbishd Pst Adeboye Drinking Of TEA With God by paxonel(m): 8:06pm On Apr 04, 2024
creativeworld:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmoFPOMk7M96yi_eWSdzfgA?sub_confirmation=1

This Madness Must Stop, Prophet Miracle Blast Pst Damina for rubbishing Pst Adeboye's claim of drinking Tea with God

Watch full video below!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwa-lgdjimM?si=mgxj16i1a9-Kw9yG
So this pastor don comfess now, that pastors generally use tithe money to build house with AC for themselves.
Oyedepo's house is AC?
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Inherited The Worst Economic Challenges So Far In Nigeria’s History - APC by paxonel(m): 8:08am On Apr 02, 2024
where is the mumu mannagrills that used to call Buhari my darling president?

Christianity EtcRe: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 8:14pm On Mar 31, 2024
budaatum:
To be honest, I do not agree that Adam and Eve sinned. And even if they did sin, they rightly should have sinned.

The only way or reason the Lord God could command Adam, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die", is if Adam did not know that "God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. And God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground and I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food".

If Adam knew that God had created him in God's image to “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground and I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food", he would tell the Lord God who is now demoting (enslaving) him to naked gardener and removing the fruit of the tree of the knowledge the good and the evil from it's pay to do one. Least I would, with colour too.

Eve used her senses to check if she would die long after Adam had forgotten he had any senses at all, and that's how she saved them both from naked ignorant slavery to become self employed and masters of themselves, and if that is a sin, God kill buda die now!
grin grin grin grin

To me, i think this episode of Adam and Eve eating from a tree that was not meant for them to eat is a story for babies to understand.
In reality, I think it was a sin of rebellion
Christianity EtcRe: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 1:00pm On Mar 31, 2024
Techobeys:
So you’re one of those who think that Adam and Eve were made to sin, right?

I thought you said you’re a realistic human? Did the bible tell you that anyone made Adam and Eve sin?
I never said Adam and Eve were made to sin.
As a matter of fact, the decision to sin or not to sin were theirs, not the serpent
If you’re a realistic human being, think of the snake realistically. What’s that one thing that can speak to you and cause you to question God’s commandments? Is that thing the devil?
ofcourse you can call it the devil.
But that devil is not a spirit that has power to manipulate or dominate your decision.
It can just be a thought of the mind or someone else trying to trick you to question God. In either way, you can decide not to heed to it. When you do that, it means it does not exist
Christianity EtcRe: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 11:02am On Mar 31, 2024
Techobeys:
Do you see it from where you quoted in John that the devil sinned in the beginning? How then do you say there’s no devil?
because if Adam and Eve did not sinned, then there would have been no need of devil.
This also implies that if we too do not sin, then there is no need for devil.
His existence is tied to us sinning. Meaning, if we do not sin, then he does not exist.

And even if we find ourselves sinning, then we should take responsibility for our actions and should not blame the devil which really do not exist.

Infact, we do exist and are more significant than one abstract entity called the devil.

Or have you ever heard anyone who is indicted of committing a crime saying na devil cause am?
He will face the consequences of his actions alone without any devil
Christianity EtcRe: Everyone Will Meet Jesus No Matter Your Religion Or Belief by paxonel(m): 5:52am On Mar 31, 2024
IN OTHER WORDS, EVERYONE WILL DIE SOMEDAY.

IT'S NOT A NEWS
Christianity EtcRe: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m):
Techobeys:
Your point is irrational Mr. Pax. For example, if someone is unconscious or disabled and can’t do normal activities, does that mean they don’t exists?

Forgiveness and other Godly principles renders the devil disabled, they don’t make him inexist. The devil exists and operates in the life of those who walk contrary to Godly principles.

I don’t know why you choose to talk contrary to established truth. The devil operates in the heart of the children of disobedience.
you see, what we call the devil is just simply consequences.
And what we call Angel or God's intervention is also simply consequences.

In this life, You can't plant potato only to reap banana, it's not possible.

If anyone is unconscious, then he is unconscious and knows nothing pending when he recovers. At that point, the only thing that speaks for him is what he has done before he became unconscious.
If he was a wicked person around, then there is likelyhood that he will get little help and may not survive. That situation were he gets little help that eventually kills him becomes the devil. This is one practical way we can see devil, There is no devil anywhere.


Another way we can see devil is on the spiritual point of view as it concerns most scriptures in the bible, the devil is simply any religion that is against God.
Mark it, the devil or Satan is ANY RELIGION OR FAITH.

for instance,
1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Christianity EtcRe: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 9:12pm On Mar 30, 2024
budaatum:
After all, devil can be short for doer of evil.
absolutely
Christianity EtcRe: Can You Answer This Question? by paxonel(m): 7:56pm On Mar 30, 2024
Techobeys:
Don’t be ridiculous Mr. Pax, the Bible doesn’t say if you forgive, then devil doesn’t exist. It says if you don’t forgive then you have given the devil opportunity to operate but if you forgive, he won’t be able to operate.
so what's the difference?

The devil cannot operate because you forgive, how then does he exist?
His existence is rendered useless by his inability to operate, therefore he exist for nothing which amount to him not existing at all
This doesn’t in any way infer that the devil doesn’t exist, it’s just speaking about grounds of operation of the devil.
that is, the operation of the devil is solely determined by our actions, for instance if we forgive or not?

We are saying the same thing now.

Obviously, we are the devil, and we can also be the Angel. There is nothing more than that
Christianity EtcRe: Satanic Temple Opening In 5 Cities In Nigeria In 2 Months by paxonel(m): 10:34am On Mar 30, 2024
It seems this satanism is a religious sect under the religion called atheism
Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by paxonel(m): 9:51pm On Mar 28, 2024
CaptainJune:
Please remind me what the North, East, West and South cardinal directions of the earth means as the four corners of the earth?
the cardinal points are not just only four, so he could not possibly refer to the cardinal points.

Look at the chart below.
That was how people used to understand the earth in ancient times
The same Isaiah in Isaiah 40:22 knew the earth was circle in shape thousands of years before the flat earth debate and space exploration.
the chart is even showing a circle inbetween the four corners.
So?
If John was not taken to heaven then where ws he taken that he saw Jesus, the Father, the 24 elders, innumerable angels, the saints, the martyred under the altar?
you know, you people believe in rapture?
I'm saying that John could not possibly be raptured.
He actually saw the vision of heaven here on earth

Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by paxonel(m): 9:31pm On Mar 28, 2024
denisbid:
for the case of Stephen, his description of what he saw did not tally with reality, that was why they stoned him angrily
Exactly!

I will say, it's either he saw a vision in the clouds at that point, that means he did not see real pictures of Jesus at the right side of God.
Or they were mere imaginations or beliefs of his heart that was transmitted to his eyes.

Whatever he saw can be interpreted rightly that Jesus is approved of God, simple.
Hmm!

You have a way of adding these things up.
But certainly these are your assumptions grin
And you will agree with me that these assumptions of mine, if carefully followed scripturally, you will see the correlation
Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by paxonel(m): 8:33pm On Mar 28, 2024
CaptainJune:
You reason ethereal and other-wordly dimensions using the physical laws your mind has known through dwelling in a physical dimension. How does that work?

For example, Stephen, when he was being stoned to death, looked up and saw Christ sitting at the right hand of the Father. Did Stephen have to see the globe, the planets, the stars before he saw Jesus?
Here is another one grin

Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth

Your question is like asking, did Isaiah saw the four corners of the earth before mentioning it?

Does the earth have four corners?
Is Jesus and God in the clouds?.

You must understand that certain descriptions used in the bible was meant for people in that era to understand, not for people of today anymore.

Because, people of today, we know better now grin
Apostle John described seeing God seated on a throne and the four living creatures worshiping Him. When he was taken into heaven to see this vision did he have to pass the planets, the solar system before getting to heaven?
John was never taken to heaven, read the bible again.

Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

On the Lord's day
This means, it was as of he died and later came back to life.

Remember, i have been saying on this thread that our death marks the day of judgement, which is the day of the Lord.

He says behold i come quickly.
It is appointed once for men to die...
Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by paxonel(m): 8:09pm On Mar 28, 2024
denisbid:
So, what's your point?
Heaven is right in our body, that's where God resides.

If this truth is not steaked somewhere into our head and we keep looking for God elsewhere, then we will continue to be confused by religion.
Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by paxonel(m): 7:49pm On Mar 28, 2024
denisbid:
It doesn't really matter.

As much as heaven is on earth, so it is in heaven where God is located
OK, how about this? grin grin

1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Do you have any scripture that says otherwise or any scripture indicating that God is somewhere beyond the clouds order than our body?
You will never see any such scripture.

And i keep wonder, if you are raptured to the clouds, you will end up meeting dead bodies like jupiter, Saturn, Uranius and Neptune, not God cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by paxonel(m): 7:35pm On Mar 28, 2024
denisbid:
Yeah!

I could not envisage
Though I have reasoned with all you have been saying, but your stand about rapture, i do not totally agree with you.

Let's starts from here like this wink
You know, God has promise his people that where he is, that is where they will also be.
So if God is in heaven, certainly we will also be with him in heaven
and I keep asking the question, where is this heaven?

Have you ever bothered to ask the same question too?
Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by paxonel(m): 3:40pm On Mar 28, 2024
denisbid:
grin grin grin

Some people are just full of emotions that they can't detect when they commit fallacies
they fail to understand that they cannot win arguments with fallacies grin grin grin

Even if what they are saying is true, with fallacies they are locked
Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by paxonel(m): 3:22pm On Mar 28, 2024
denisbid:
But Jesus Christ had mentioned tribulation as signs of his coming?
Like i have said before, Jesus has come already, so the said tribulation as a sign of his coming happened approximately 2000 years ago when he came.
So don't expect any sign called tribulation anymore.

Everything misfortune you see as tribulation today have no connection with any coming of Christ.

People are confusely being drunk with a mental shift by religion, example is that peecruz or whatever he called himself that seems like water is filled his brain, i have already marked his moniker along with the list of mentally derailed people on this forum grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by paxonel(m): 1:32pm On Mar 28, 2024
Veecruz:
See mad denial ooo.. Are the people who saw the beginning of these troubulations not stiil here?

Paxy, just stop talking clearly.you are mad and need your delusions to keep on living.
Look my friend, what you are experiencing now that you are calling tribulation is no where to be compared to what people experienced during the slave trade era.

So, stop shouting
Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by paxonel(m): 1:00pm On Mar 28, 2024
Veecruz:
You love denials and delisuons too much. Without a doubt, every normal person has seen that the family structure is broken down and that family members are now enemies, fathers killing sons and sons killing fathers, exactly as prophecied.

The moon has been red for a long while instead of its customary white. We had the hardness of buying and selling, whoredom is increased, as prophecied, yet you say this troubulations are not what was prophecied?

Please, keep your delusions away.from public discussions
You believe so much in conspiracy theories and that is the greatest decision.

Do you realize that tribulations like these have been through out the history of mankind?
Christianity EtcRe: When Is He Coming? by paxonel(m): 12:44pm On Mar 28, 2024
Veecruz:
And clearly the bible shows that Judgment takes place only when the a rested and accuseds are awoken, to be taken to Court.
You know why you are scared of quoting out the scripture?
Because they are telling you people lies
Thus, it cannot be in the grave
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Can you boldly say that these people whose names were not written in the book of life were not dead people?
and neither could there be "he comes everyday"
for the fact that you see people dying everyday, it means that Christ is coming everyday to judge. He says "BEHOLD I COME QUICKLY.
From common sense, It follows that since veryone have their own time to die,hence they have their different time of judgement.

Judgement is not just one last judgement.
Judgement is everyday.

It is appointed once for men to die, after that the judgement.
It means that the judgement is only for the dead.
Christianity EtcRe: When Is He Coming? by paxonel(m): 12:05pm On Mar 28, 2024
Veecruz:
Proper thinking reveals this is off point. The topic is death, judgment and coming.

And clearly the bible shows that Judgment takes place only when the a rested and accuseds are awoken, to be taken to Court. Thus, it cannot be in the grave and neither could there be "he comes everyday" since He is only meant to come twice.
Christianity EtcRe: When Is He Coming? by paxonel(m): 11:17am On Mar 28, 2024
Templee333:
but what about the sun and moon becoming dark and the stars falling from heaven? How about the heaven being rolled away like a scroll? Do these happen everyday?
That statement was spoken figuratively to portray what will happen when Christ is crucified.

The stars falling from heaven simply mean that there was a total darkness the day Jesus was crucified.

Luke 23:44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.

I just said that the first category of his coming is his crucifixion and resurrection which has nothing to do with the second category ie Death of humans.

Don't be confused about these :
Christ is truly coming.
He has been coming through death
Christianity EtcRe: When Is He Coming? by paxonel(m): 10:54am On Mar 28, 2024
Veecruz:
What kind of stupid logic is this? Is dying the same as Coming?
Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children..

Is good seed the same as children?

If it is the same, how then is that logic of Jesus Christ stupid?

Can't you think?
Christianity EtcRe: The Rapture: Determining Which Position Is Right!! by paxonel(m): 10:44am On Mar 28, 2024
Veecruz:
See how you show you are a.Deluded Liar? So the present troubulations blowing all around the world are not real?
whatever we call tribulation today is not what the bible is referring to as great tribulation
What a mad delusion you carry.
search yourself.
The truth has nothing to with anyone's emotions

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