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Also heard it on ITV at 10 pm that he insulted Zizou's mum,saying that he slept with her and that she's a LovePeddler.
Others said he called him a terrorist.
I was saddened by what Zidane did,it almost ruined the whole of my evening,a kind of anticlimax.
I felt the elegant master should have been able to rein in his temper;at other times I felt if Matterrazi indeed made such an insultive comment,the headbutting should have been aimed at his mouth not his chest.

If u're an engineer or an IT professional ,then u may consider it,ur chances are brighter than others at the moment.

Also read that item of news in a daily here today.Is anyone surprise?It's a sick society,morally depraved, with no restraint whatsoever.I think age of consent should be just immediately at  birth,It would be unfair,indeed an abuse of human right to withold sex from the newborn.How are we sure they don't crave it? Once it was homosexualism,and we rationalized the obvious base desire,now it is child porn and sex.
Let's wait and see how far our perversion drive us.
And why should anybody criticize the Dutch group,when they're are more open-minded, more civilized than the rest of us?

@ SEUN, Tai Solarin didn't import his wife,he met her while he was abroad.And she's not German,but British if my memory serves me right(I read his autobiography years ago).

It's a touching one.U will obviously get 2 clear responses on what to do;attend the wedding,don't attend the wedding and both with reasons.U can attend the wedding(but just wondering what will be going on in your mind,would u really be there,while bodily present?) Or choose not to.I think it depends on the state of your mind and how strong u are or will be.It's up to u to eventually decide.But either way,let go; don't  cling to the hurt and animosity,it will not in the least be of help.This is one of the things that happens everyday,people have had worst experiences,and over time,they are still still thankful about the turn of events.(actually had a chat with an aunty  who had a similar story line similar to your own ,only the courtship was longer than 3 years.She later got married to a successful man in Nigeria,the London guy too got married to another person,she told me today she has no regrets). If u're truly His child hold on to Him,even in the time of disappointment.
God bless.

Have a Malaysian friend here tellimg me about meeting many Nigerians studying in Malaysia,certainly there must be some attraction why Nija guys go there.Am not sure of the exact amount but surely living expenses must be less than England's.Why don't u google-search that out?

This is simply mind blowing!

I think you could say Chelsea has won it.(though would have love Man U)

Here we go again,splitting hair over something as harmless as an observance of a religious event.
I wouldn't be surprised if the writer of the article or the original poster is a member of the seventh day adventist on 'evangelism,' spreading his confusion to other people.
The whole essence of Christ death was to establish a better covenant than that of the old testament(the book of Hebrew is much about this).
So the passover and what have you is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to a christian,otherwise there wouldn't be need for Jesus Christ to die.
Jesus rose from death on the first day of the week according to the scriptures,thus the reason why the church meet on this day.
And to the issue of celebration of Easter( or Christmas) rooted in Pagan/Hellenistic culture,thanks for educating us on this bit of history.
We've heard it over and over again.
If  pagan superstitions are substituted with momentous events in Christianity,I don't think there is any cause for sorrow,but joy as long as we understand the significance of the event we refer to and we allow the message to have meaning in our individual lives.
For me personally,I have never bothered and don't care what rabbit or bunny or egg is all about(not part of my culture and never had any meaning for me anyway),but to remember that 2000 years ago  this season,Christ was crucified and He rose again(THE MOST IMPORTANT EVENT IN HISTORY FOR A CHRISTIAN),and that is what I remember,relive and celebrate.
Finally,no chriatian should feel condemned by observance or otherwise of any day,as Paul admonish us in Colossians 2:16-17;
LET NO MAN THEREFORE JUDGE YOU IN MEAT,OR IN DRINK,OR IN RESPECT OF AN HOLYDAY,OR OF THE MOON,OR OF THE SABBATH DAYS:
WHICH ARE A SHADOW OF THINGS TO COME;BUT THE BODY IS OF CHRIST.

Uhm.

If that man ever comes back to rule Nigeria again,then I'll be convinced that our country is a hopeless case,that will take a miracle to fix.

He should be shipped to the Hague,lest his supporters regroup and cause more problems in S/Leone or Liberia.

There's no basis for comparism.
Hear Zico,one the Brazilian greats."Ronaldinho has the highest IQ in Brazilian football"
I can't but agree with him.Ronaldinho is a genius, he's the most gifted footballer playing on this planet at the moment.
Even Maradona also said this as much.That's the kind of person you  should be measuring him with.
Remember his goal against AC Milan last year,I can still hear the commentator saying 'this goal can win any match in any tournament in any stadium in the world!'.And it was a burst of an individual effort.
What of the one against Chelsea also in Champions league where he hypnotized the whole of Chelsea's defence?
Or the one that hasten David Seaman's retirement from football.
One could go on and on.

Americans are the most ignorant people on earth when it comes to knowing about other people and their present president typifies that(although you have to give him some credit that he has learned a little bit on the job).
Their 1st president,Washington warned them in his valedictory speech to beware of 'foreign entanglements',so I guess they still go a long way to take his advice seriously.

It's forever a controversial issue.
I met a white American guy once back in Nigeria who told me of his frustrations at getting accepted in a school in the US.
I remember him telling me that  lesser qualified people had it easier because of affirmative action.
On the face of it,and historically there is/was some sense in it,but if you are caught on the wrong side you would rail against it.
Is it not similar to our quota system in Nigeria,where Northerners are given preferential treatment in admission and other facets of life,
and the Southerners who score higher or are better qualified are passed over?
It does maintain some equilibrium to some points,but it also has its down side.It may/does encourage mediocrity and complacency in the beneficiaries and inflame the passions of the loosers against them.
I think it's not exactly a black and white thing, it's grey.
And these black Americans sef,I don't think they've taken advantage of the system enough, I believe it has probably made them more lazy.

Is Arsenal so good or Juventus so woeful?
UP ARSENAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When it comes to this topic,Wole Soyinka happens to be my role model,and I point to him all the time when discussing with my friends.
I find it amusing that some parents go out of their way to prevent their children from picking up their dialect,considering the fact that this was one of the first things the slave traders did during the slave trade.They change their names,prevent them from speaking their language,effectively destoying their identity.
I think there are many angles to the discussion.Mixed marriages,immigration and a host of other  factors do make it more difficult for people to speak their language but some people had these odds stacked against them and they managed to teach their offspring their local dialect.
Some parents and invariably,their children see it as evidence of their upper class breeding, and sort of carry this smugness about them as a result of this,I use to think it was cool, but now I have a different opinion.
I mentioned Wole Soyinka at the beginning because he writes and speaks the Queen English better than some of these misguided, 'sophisticated' parents would ever dream of, yet his yoruba is excellent.So also was late prof Olikoye Ransome Kuti.
It is sad because at the end of the day you are not fully English(can never be!) and you still miss out a great deal on your own culture.

chinani:
@ kaygirl

I have a BA in English too. What are you doing w/ your degree? I'm not doing so much w/ mine at present.

No wonder u write so beautifully & aspire to be a writer!.

Thanks Papermoon,am actually a 'boy'


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That was a truly gripping story.
Dating a married man under any guise despite his lies,is not just wrong, it's a sin against God,yourself,and the man's family.
It's a seed who nobody can say what it would grow to.A honest life experience such as this should serve as a lesson,but would it?
Whatsoever a man/woman sows that he /she would also reap.
Thanks Papermoon.

You do have a point,but I would still insist that,one activity,namely colonization had effect on the other(missionary activities).The fact of the matter is that some of the explorers,colonialists,and missionary carried out all the functions at once.For instance,was David Livingstone a missionary or an explorer?He was both.
People tend to think that before the Europeans came,Africans lived like a big happy family,that is not true.
There were conflicts, intertribal wars;for instance the Yorubas had long running civil wars among themselves during this period.
There's no doubt about the fact that colonialism was largely economic interest of the Empire,my point is that all over the world,conquered people had times of foreign domination,but they acknowledge this and go ahead to build a truly viable nation from there,instead of spending eternity bemoaning their fate.Even a country like Germany after the war had foreign governors but they still forged ahead after that experience.
The biggest problem of Nigeria is corruption,during the colonial period and even immediately after independence,there was corruption,but it's not on the scale we have it today.Now, the European colonialists are hardly responsible for this.

[quote author=demmy link=topic=8667.msg252136#msg252136 date=1143166848
[You're confusing missionaries with colonial administrators. These were not the same. Infact the educational advantage we enjoyed in the South over the northerners was because colonial administrators disallowed the missionaries from proselytizing in the North. My argument is not against these types of contact with white people and their culture. We needed the contact. It is the modern administrative structures as laid down by the colonial administration I'm railing against. These structures were generally laid for their colonial administrative convenience without taking into consideration the nuances of the locals or making them general enough to be uniform.]There is no confusion at all.The 2 went hand in hand.If the Brit administrators and conquerors had not cleared the way,it would have been almost impossible for missionaries to go to Africa .The same ships that carried the soldiers and admnis also carried the missionaries.Most times,the wife of the district officer was the nurse or the teacher in the mission school.Haven't you heard of this snide remark?'rifle in one hand,bible in the other' or 'they came gave us the bible and took our wealth'
Although,their were peculiar areas like Northern Nigeria like you pointed out that the politics superceeded the missionary activities.[/quote]

Old Glory:
@Demmy

Nobody is proposing for the return of colonail masters. All i am saying is that colonial times laid a lot of ground work for a functional society. During that time, solid institutions were built in the country and the country was on some kind of "Auto Pilot". Law and Justice was for all not only for the wealthy.Education,Healthcare,Pension, per capita income,life expectancy, was better than it is today .Now after the keys to the barn were handed over to the indigenes, well i will let you narrate today's tale.

Thanks Old Glory for stating this for the umpteenth time.
I'll like to make my own final submissions on this topic;'Did anything good come out of colonialism in Africa?'
1.Colonialism on its own was not a desirable thing,but it was a phase in our political evolution that we cannot wish away.
2.Colonialism was not just politics,there were a lot of Europeans who were motivated not by the glory of the Empire but by sharing the Gospel with the 'natives',and this also almost invariably involved education and social development.You cannot fault the achievement of the missionaries in the educational developement of Nigeria even if you are uneducated atheist.(Remember a statement credited to Awolowo,'they gave us education with which we used to fight them')This was in contrast to the days of slavery in America,when to teach a slave to read was actively discouraged.
3.Just like it happens in other things in life even on a personal note,some 'good' does come out of unpleasant experiences and it behooves us to make use of this and let it propel us positively.The Holocaust for instance,was an 'evil' historical fact,but the Jews would very probably not have founded the state of their own were it not for that horrible experience.
4.It's an acknowledged fact even by politicians that fought for independence that the quality of life today in Nigeria,the working of the system generally, is worse than the colonial times(I can still remember vividly Balarabe Musa comparing the various indices in an interview 1 or 2 years ago)
5.By so doing,they and us (Pearl2,T4 Cash,Old Glory) are not advocating for the Brits to come back,but asking ourselves if the 'racists' can make the system fair to the 'natives',why can't we make it fairer to ourselves now?
6.The Europeans left  us years ago,why do we now struggle tooth and nail to get their visa to come and meet them  in their own countries(instead of being governed by own leaders) and put ourselves under their rule again in their own land, despite the fact that they were so wicked that they left only evil behind in Nigeria.
7.It's high time we go beyond blaming the Brits for what we can hold IBB,Abacha,Alami,Balogun, ( and others too numerous to mention) accountable for.(At a time in the 70's and 80's, the classic book,'How Europe Underdeveloped Africa' by Walter Rodney, was the bible of the progressives,while acknowledging this fact,it's time we point out, 'How Africans are underdeveloping Africa' or to put a positive spin on it,'How Africans can develop Africa')
8.The Brits were also in Asia and other parts of Africa but some of these countries have now gone ahead of Nigeria despite similar political experiences,we can take a cue from them.(Remember the palm seed anecdote from Malaysia?)
9.Finally, I hope a day would come that Nigeria would be able to take its rightful place in the comity of nations,when we will be able to carry our passports round the world  as patriotic ambassadors of our fatherland, not economic vagabonds,refugees of state failure;putting up with humiliations at airports,but a people infused with pride and self assuredness borne of genuine achievements recognizable all over the world as the acknowledged leader of the Black race.