₦airaland Forum

SmartyPants:
The narrative of Kwankwaso as an ethnic bigot is clearly not true. The fact is he simply considered himself a better candidate for President, and told Obi the simple truth that the average northerner was unlikely to vote for him. You people twisted this out of anger and now you're feigning surprise?

Grow up.

All the talks of bringing Southeast to mainstream is not insult on Igbos Abi?

The level of bullshit you lots excuse as part of politicking eh!

If we go with your perspective, then people should have two characters; one for non election periods and the other for election periods.

During election period everyone is allowed to suspend decency, morality and decorum and jump into the gutter. Whatever you do then will be forgotten once elections are over. Right?

Lotanna2:
If your cognitive capacity was full capacity,you would have recognized and accepted that obi has failed woefully.the tribunal jurisdiction is narrow,any broader perspective you have should be taken to a civil court commonsensically.learm from edeoga and try again in 2031.

Any attempt to prepare ground for the Judiciary to deliver kangaroo judgment will never work. Go and tell your paymasters that.

If INEC encountered glitches in all sincerity, why did they not report to AWS who hosts their website almost four months after the election.

Only a criminal who never set out for transparency from the very start will do that.

INEC is a criminal organization that intentionally rigged the 2023 presidential election for Tinubu.

No amount of rationalization, rhetorics or twisting of narratives will change this reality that the entire world knows.

Ikaeniyan0:
Which document did Tinubu forge? Tell me

Mmesoma lied that she has the highest score in jamb, jamb came out and told her her real result, but she came out and claim Jamb lied about her score... I can never support such a person. She's lucky she only got her result withdrawn and suspended from taken part in jamb exam for 3 years

She learnt from Tinubu.

Tinubu is her role model.

She’s just a child who thought doing things the Tinubu way was the right way.

Godoverevery:
Did you read were I stated the govt aren't sincere??
The blue line rail is still going through test run and not fully operational yet but the haste to inaugurate is for political reasons.

In regards of dangote refinery......next week is July ending, just relax

Let see what happens by then.

Both projects shouldn’t have been inaugurated if they were not ready to come on stream.

Or do you have instances (in a saner clime of course) where things are done this way?

Tt

Obaofaba:
For the first time ever, you made sense.

Kudos to us progressive for bringing out your better self.

Sometimes, it takes others to discover your talents, such is this time in your case.

At the topic, penguin2 has said it all.
Totally agreed with him.

I’ve always made sense. The things I said then weren’t just palatable to you nor did they satisfy your biases.😏

Ikaeniyan0:
Because he performed better than Obi as a Governor.

And his forged documents?

Or are there no Jambites that Mmesoma performed better than even by her real score?

Why are you not also supporting Mmesoma if performance is your criteria and not the morality of her action?

Lotanna2:
Appointment of judges to fhc was done by njc as a whole not ariwoola alone.most of these top judges including odili have their kids as judges.why is ariwoola own now an issue? What manner of ezekwesili typed hypocrisy is this?
Why not blame obi for not copying from edeoga to bring hard evidence rather than ranting about?

No matter the argument you make, sane Nigerians will never allow this moral debasement you lots are trying to enthrone to happen.

There are rules of engagement.

There are ethics of professions.

There are moral principles guiding everything. I understand if politicians do not care about morality but never judges.

Would you equate Tinubu appointing Yusuf Buhari as minister to the implication it would portended had Buhari appointed Yusuf himself?

Ikaeniyan0:
Isn’t it funny that you didn't believe the maker of the document (JAMB) when they came out with the real result of mmesoma

Why are you supporting Tinubu?

Lotanna2:
Why do you find it difficult comprehending simple issues? Perhaps you do but refuse to give way to superior reasoning,you rather allow emotions.assertuons, allegations and mere speculations and theories do not work in court but hard,cold evidences which obi does not half.

Assuming that there was actually no glitch,obi must show how it substantially affected the conduct of election,the numbers of votes affected.if it affected online transmission,then it didn't affect manual transmission and manual copies.obi simply went to court to embarrass the govt and inec.

Good you accept that the govt and INEC is being embarrassed which is what they deserve.

But it’s funny you accuse me of being emotional because I tried to bring things into broader perspective so that you can properly grasp it since your cognitive faculties seemed to be failing you.

Somebody is in charge of your security. Now your security was breached (or so you claim) and you couldn’t question or even report to him?

Is that the standard procedure?

SmartPolician:
The cyberspace in Nigeria has become a propaganda hub!

But I tell you, don’t always dismiss these things you call propaganda. Before they start to fly, there’s always an iota of truth in it.

The right thing is to always approach them with the principle of fallibility, hold them as true while waiting for counter-facts.

Where problem comes is if you swallow them as incontrovertible truth.

A lot is going on behind the scene that those you call trusted media will never tell you.

Characters like Lotanna2 think there’s nothing wrong in Ariwoola appointing his son a judge. Such level of moral debasement.

We thought only politicians apply the Machiavellian model but seeing judges who should be the moral conscience of the society becoming Machiavellian in their dealings without caring about perception, principles and morality of their actions is the lowest of lows we can go.

Right now, the only judgment of the court that will be acceptable is the one against Tinubu. Anything else would be “God help Nigeria”.

Which kind beauty queen be this wey no fit make my prik stand?

I’m sure her mgbeke makeup was done by a painter from Abakpa.

These idiots keep denigrating whatever dignity that pageantry has left.

Ikaeniyan0:
I hope you are not part of the people who supported mmesoma even after jamb came out to claim her result is fake.

I was.

I hope you are not one of those who are supporting Tinubu?

Godoverevery:
Like I said earlier the inauguration was political hence the rush........is just the same with the blue light rail.

Test running takes months and is very possible you detest a failure that will need major repair and i guess that what happened with the light rail.........just that our govt aren't sincere.

By now the lagos state govt should tell us what causing the delay.

Cos I could remember there a machine called limestone 0reclaimer.....it uses rail line too and when we did test runs we found out the failure was way above the -5 and +5.

It wasn't funny cos inauguration was just 3weeks away........we had to work day and night to fix it. The whole rail line was broken cos the bot were to long and reconstructed.
So that the part of the problem with construction of plants.

If you ordered a car from Innoson and they delivered it to you but you found out that you can’t hit the road immediately because there still further test runs that need to be done to certify the vehicle roadworthy and efficient.

2 months later and you still can’t drive the car because they are trying to subject it through rigorous cross checking and all.

Would you take this excuse you have offered here from them?

Lotanna2:
I am only trying to prepare your mind and that of others for the looming loss in advance so that you won't accuse the judiciary of being compromised.
Her reports are general health reports,they are not specific or indepth and particular about any particular server.she herself claimed it is possible that inec had a glitch without AWS knowing and she can only know that if she had access to inec local servers.now,the inec ict director brought incontrovertible evidence of them suffering glitches and network issues on that day which was unchallenged.whether they reported it or not is irrelevant,obi half evidence was rebutted as usual.

As an aside,the 18000 blurred results is of no moment as in one of the copies where prof ofoedu claimed that there was overvoting in degema rivers,the hard copy showed there was no overvoting.obi is back to square one

Lol!

Imagine you claim that your wife was murdered in your home by assailants.

3 months later we discovered that you did not report this claim to either your local vigilante nor the police whose responsibility it is to protect you and your wife but went ahead to bury her.

We asked you for evidence and you showed us a broken window as prove that it was indeed assailants that murdered your wife.

Tell me why we should take you seriously.

What if you killed your wife and are claiming she was murdered by assailants?

IconicR:
Obi is just forcing himself on people . There's something very fishy about him , I can see through him.

Yeah!

He took Saraki and Kwankwaso’s phones from them to wish himself happy birthday on their Twitter page.

Maybe it’s true that one can’t defend Tinubu without sounding stupid.

After Atiku felicitated with Peter Obi on his birthday yesterday, Kwankwaso and Saraki joined in wishing him well on birthday too.

If anything, I’d say I’m not surprised at Saraki’s post since he’s a refined gentleman and I suppose he’s even a closet friend of Obi, but Kwankwaso’s own is what surprised me.

Because not only did Kwankwaso lampoon whenever he got the chance Obi during last electioneering period, he was never shy dragging his entire ethnic region into his vituperative utterances then.

One now wonders what changed? Is this an evidence of political realignment?

Perfect fit.

President - a criminal, drug lord and a thief

Vice President - a terrorist

Party Chairman - a thief

If the head of APC looks like this, tell me what the body will look like.

Lol!

I’ve said it before and I want to repeat it….

If Election Tribunal calls for rerun today, Tinubu and INEC will sweat through their anuses to conjure up even 3million votes.

Not only did the majority not vote for Tinubu in the first election, even those who voted for him are covered in shame and too hungry to contemplate voting him again.

Some votes he got in the north was due to senatorial and house of Rep candidates who will no longer be on the ballot right now.

Places like Zamfara where he won is now a no go area for him.

A state like Plateau where Lalong helped write result for him is now in PDP.

There’s no more Ganduje in Kano to help him. And I’m sensing Tinubu’s continued romance with Ganduje is already telling Kwankwaso off.

Lol again! Tinubu should just try to buy the judges.

Southeast?

Are those people stupid?

Ohaneze must warn those idiots to bury any such idea except they are Tinubu agents who are trying to help Tinubu shop for chaos so that they can hide under it to perpetuate themselves in power.

Let the Hausas or Yorubas lead protests if they are tired of high price of fuel.

Those idiots must be warned immediately.

Lotanna2:
I am aware of everything in legal unlike you.illegally gotten evidence is sometimes acceptable but at the discretion of the court.unfortunately,she didn't say she got it illegally.she lied about the evidence claiming she was the maker when she wasn't.the so called evidence tbh honest is not helpful to obi even if admitted

Why not leave the court to determine what is useful and what is not useful?

But remember that her reports showed that INEC didn’t suffer a glitch like they claimed. And that’s why she came with reports from six regions.

Then recall that when the INEC witness who is their deputy director of ICT, he was asked if INEC reported to Amazon that they suffered a glitch and he said no.

Now, who does that? You pay billions to ensure something works and helps your project, and on the day you needed it most, it failed. And you failed to lodge a complaint? Almost four months later?

Lotanna2:
No one is questioning her being an Amazon staff but as a neutral org and party,Amazon was supposed to come officially and cannot be said to be partisan.her employment letter was manufactured a day before she testified.all obi's so called evidences are.

Bamidele is directly testifying for apc and tinubu who are parties to the case.he is an interested and a direct partisan witness not a subpoena or neutral witness.miss ogar is coming under subpoena and subpoena witnesses are supposed to be non partisan,neutral and coming to testify generally for the interest of justice or for the benefit of the court not directly for a party.spot the difference

Are you aware that the courts have said that an illegally gotten evidence is admissible in court?

Well, if the courts have said above, it doesn’t matter the political inclination of a witness (subpoenaed or not) what matters is the veracity of her statements and documents.

Godoverevery:
Most times i just marvel at how you guys go about blabbing on something you know nothing about.

If you are an engineering graduate you blab this rubbish.....you think construction of a refinery is like road construction??

Do you know how many test run have to be done just to ascertain the equipment.

The the inauguration was a political yes but that doesn't mean the refinery isn't ready to produce.....it is already producing fertilizers and other by product and only the pms,diesel and kerosene line that yet to kick off.

There something called test run after construction of plants.....you have to test run equipment repeatedly to check very well cos if production start fully it be difficult to start repairing....you have to shut down production which will cost time and money to repair.

I worked in dangote cement ibese ogun state and to the glory of God I was part of the team of site engineers(mechanical dept) who constructed line 4,5 and 6 inside the plant along side sinoma, Indians and germans.

Some of My ex colleagues are still working with dangote and they are part of the team working the in refinery (most the Civil engineering guys) and I can boldly say the refinery will start producing at 50% capacity by ending of this month and projected to hit full capacity by late August.

In asmuch most of you are so blinded with hate and doesn't wish this country well but atleast stop blabbing about things you know nothing about.

Thank you for this clarification.

But I need clarify something, and that is that I do not wish to see Dangote Refinery fail. Why would I?

I only made allusion to a report that what based on factual and rational assessment of the level of work done at the refinery as of then. But now you are bringing a counter to that report and I’m going to tentatively accept it as true and wait until ending of August to see what happens.

But I still insist, if Dangote knew that further test runs were required before the refinery goes up on stream, why inaugurate?

In a normal parlance, those who went for that inauguration would have had the chance of having their tanks filled with fuel from the refinery.

I can only liken what they did to Sanwolu’s inauguration of the Blue Light Rail and 7 months on, it’s still not in use.

Lotanna2:
Not true,the DSS personell did a clinical and surgical job.his report was deep,he went personal.the only issue was acting without DSS permit.
For clarity,she was partisan and couldn't provide an i.d card.even the employment confirmation she brought was forged.the DSS operative was the maker of his own report but ogar just downloaded AWS document and brought general AWS health report and admitted that she has no access no inec local servers

Unfortunately for you, even Tinubu lawyers recognized her as an Amazon staff. Read the written address. They didn’t question her employment. They only alluded to her partisanship.

But if Ogar’s partisanship vitiates her witness statements and evidence in court, isn’t the same also true of Senator Opeyemi Bamidele who is not only a serving senator of the APC but introduced in court as a friend to Tinubu?

LordAdam16:
When we drew attention to this then, his lackeys tried drowning those concerns with "he can take bold and tough decisions".

They are mute now.

Nigeria is not Lagos. If he fails to nip this downward spiral in the bud, he'd be a one-term president.

By September, parents will start grappling with high university tuition. Same parents who have parked their cars over #600 gasoline.

-Lord

Sometimes you can’t help but feel pity for them because they are operating on the level they know and can grasp.

They are like lower animals with poor mental development that remote controlled and told what to say and how to say them all the time.

And being lower animals, they have no rational ability to question the orders handed to them neither are they interested in counter-facts to what they are told.

It’s a pathetic life they are leading.

This is a very existential, practical and pragmatic bill.

With the epileptic educational system in Nigeria, most people spend longer years than necessary trying to graduate from school only to be told they are now too old to be employed.

Meanwhile you were frustrated by WAEC. Some people write WAEC up to 4 times before they finally make it.

If WAEC doesn’t frustrate you, JAMB will show you shege. Some twice, others three or 4 times or more.

Then when you finally make it into the University, ASUU will tell you to hold their beer. They will make sure that a course that was originally supposed to run for 4 years stretches into 6 or 7 years; and a 7 years course running into 11 years.

Finally you graduate at 36.

Then you see graduate entry openings in Access, Zenith, GT banks. You try to apply only to find out that it’s not for those older than 27 years or sometimes as low as 25 years.

Every other openings follows same pattern.

You consider the military (armed forces) and they all have age cap of 30 years.

Then you exclaim, “School Na Scam!”

Because you are already seeing Chukwudi who failed WAEC with you and left to Onitsha to do boy boy. He was settled after 5 years while you were still struggling with JAMB.

By the time ASUU was done eating Okpa with your destiny he already built a house in the village and bought a small car.

Let’s not even talk about those who started yahoo after failing JAMB twice.

Those ones are now ballers with fake gold chains. But how would you know the gold chains are fake when you have never priced even a bronze chain before?

And now all you have left is big grammar. Big grammar that you come to Nairaland to type some days when nature allows you to afford data. Your life is rudderless and meaningless.

You question God, you question nature, you question everything. You cry inside and on your bed at night. “This must be village people”, you say. Then you visit prophets, alfas, even Astrologers.

You try to start shooting comedy skit but you weren’t funny.

Maybe you should learn Web Development or Data Analysis, but where you go see laptop.

At 33, 36, and above you still don’t know where your life is going.

But now there’s an Abba Moro to the rescue.

God bless you Abba Moro.

Let the 30s and above breef!

Entprys:
Despite their not voting for Buhari, he looked at them with a spirit of amnesty and gave them 2nd niger bridge.
Tinubu from the same APC said
"they 'v been forgiven".
He already decided to overlook their unrepentant and parochial spirit. And that is why he promised to replicate what he did in Lagos in red soil region to reduce their poverty

Only the minority can be frustrated.

And only the majority can frustrate the minority.

So, if Tinubu is being frustrated and if he’s already suffocating and the seat is already too hot for him, then it shows he has no supporters but got rigged into power by INEC.

Shebi una think say una wan do Igbos strong thing, let’s see how far each party goes.

If we survived the war and frustrated Buhari, Tinubu is a small fry; add that to the fact that he’s on a stolen mandate.

Tell Tinubu to continue taking counsels from Wike and Asari Dokubo on how to deal with Igbos.

We will see how far.

DomPerignon:
Also supported Emefile's senseless cashless policy which was openly brandished as a political tool to curtail so-called voter inducement and to end kidnapping and banditry.

The idiots did not see that Emefile was abusing his office using the cashless policy that was meant to actually mop up excess liquidity printed and circulated by same Emefile to prop up the failing economy that he contributed immensely to its collapse.

So what’s your point?

Lotanna2:
Funny.a section of the govt is working with mbah.the DSS witness is not official but illegal,he is testifying without the official permit of DSS.he is not a competent witness just like obi's AWS witness miss ogar.
But it seems the DSS report is thorough

How can it be thorough without the stamp of either the DSS or NYSC?

Where are the supporting documents that informed his conclusion.

I don’t know how incompetent Ogar was to testify in Obi’s case but she did a better job.

But here you have an individual from DSS coming to say that he has better record of the database of NYSC than NYSC itself.

In other words, he is more Catholic than the Pope.

Isn’t it funny that the maker of the document (NYSC) has come to deny that the document originated from them while DSS is coming to defend the authenticity of the document. On what grounds?

When did DSS start issuing NYSC documents?

Does DSS have a database of previous Corpers?

Meanwhile, for the records…

The DSS official who came, came on his personal capacity and not on the mandate of the DSS. He claims he was personally subpoenaed instead of the subpoena being served on the DSS.

Again, his report had no stamp of the DSS nor that of the NYSC.

So the question is, what then authenticates his report?

Where are the documents that he obtained from NYSC that helped him arrive at his conclusion that Mbah’s NYSC certificate is authentic?

This is simply a criminal act.

Lotanna2

Lol

An expert assessment of the level of work done in the refinery before the sakamanje that they called inauguration, said that the earliest time Dangote Refinery will start producing fuel is first quarter of 2024 (between January and March next year).

I stand by that report as I do not see it as an unbiased reportage meant to harm Dangote Refinery but simply a report that captured facts as they are.

In a sane world, a company will start production before it is inaugurated.

But in Nigeria, a company was inaugurated, and months after, it’s yet to start production and idiotic fools are defending it.

Why was Dangote Refinery inaugurated if it wasn’t ready to start refining?