Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 8:35pm On Jul 19, 2023 |
Lotanna2: Hate is a very bad thing.after tinubu wins those,someone will bring another flimsy and ridiculous case and you will still latch on just to gain relevance and pour hate Lol! You are degenerating to emotional tantrums rather than sticking to facts and the law. Tinubu was an invalid candidate for 7 days. That’s the law. |
Politics › Re: Bashir Ahmad: Headless Mob Lied That Tinubu Called CJN by Penguin2: 5:50pm On Jul 19, 2023 |
That allegation was first made by Jackson Ude.
Is Jackson Ude an Obi supporter?
Idiots will be looking for how to lump things on Obidients.
Ndi ala! |
Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 5:37pm On Jul 19, 2023 |
Lotanna2: Oga,the apex court clearly said that shettima was never guilty of double nomination and that he submitted his letter to apc on the 6th of July and his resignation takes effect from there.who are you to counter them? In jime vs hembe 2022 the apex court said multiple nomination is not about the sequence or signing of several nomination form but the intention to hold two or more candidature towards or during election.this case is dead as dodo When did Ibrahim Masari withdraw his placeholder candidacy? |
Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 5:35pm On Jul 19, 2023 |
GeneralDae: The letter bearing the withdrawal from Senate to indicate Shettima's nomination for VP was dated 6th July. When INEC received it doesn't matter.
Double nomination was rather a stronger argument in this sense, this one doesn't fly.
Supreme court didn't even speak of 13th July in their final judgement. The 6th July letter is all they accepted as evidence in case of double nomination. I’m your staff at work and I went against some of the company’s policy today being 19th July, 2023 and you tell me to go and put what happened in writing and bring to you within 24 hours. Now, I failed to bring that letter within 24hours but on August 1, 2023, I brought a letter dated July 20, 2023. When did you receive the letter? On July 20 that the letter is dated which will exonerate of all disobedience? Or on August 1 that the letter reached your desk which would mean that I disobeyed your directives by up to one week? |
Politics › Re: Most Foolish President: How Buhari Set Tinibu Up For Disgrace by Penguin2: 5:23pm On Jul 19, 2023 |
SOSinNigeria: Yes, that inauguration speech announcement of subsidy removal was obviously unintentional. Tinubu obviously didn't mean to say that subsidy has ended. But because he is ignorant or too old to understand that any word uttered by a president is critical. Immediately he made that mistake, media carried the news and fuel stations increased their prices. Instead of him to clarify that his statement was misconstrued, the old man decided to ride with it.
Someone that openly said 'na data we go chop' shows he doesn't even understand the importance of data in economic management.
Peter Obi understands the critical importance of data and peer review, and that's why he doesn't joke with it. He will check if there are other developing countries that have tried it and how successful they were. He will also make comparisons with Nigeria to understand how to implement it.
Tinubu is just a disaster and at this point, the damage is done. Nigeria's economy is headed for a crash if the mad man isn't stopped. Unfortunately his supporters are still playing the ostrich; pretending everything is good or that those criticizing the biting hardship are enemies. By the time they realize what they have done to themselves, it will be too late to be redeemed. |
Politics › Re: EXCLUSIVE! Leaked List Of First Batch Of Ministerial Nominees by Penguin2: 5:02pm On Jul 19, 2023 |
ShortBiscuit: The only name I could spot on it is Peter Obi. The rest are too blurry. Lol The list is looking like INEC’s IREV result🤓 |
Politics › Re: Most Foolish President: How Buhari Set Tinibu Up For Disgrace by Penguin2: 10:21am On Jul 19, 2023 |
SOSinNigeria: Tinibu has proven to be the most foolish president in history. Even Buhari everyone thought was dull succeeded in playing him for a fool.
Buhari, just like other presidents before him knew that removing subsidy without working refineries will spell doom. So, what did he do? He carefully set the date for subsidy removal to coincide with when he would be out of government. He gazetted that he has removed subsidy with a futuristic date. He took the glory yet used Tinibu as the mugu to take the blames.
Having raised hordes of tribal bigots, sycophants and propagandists to back him up, Tinubu thought he could ride roughshod on Nigerians. He removed subsidy on his first day as president. As if that wasn't bad enough, he floated the naira! He then basked in the glory of being a tough president who could walk where angels dread to go. Little did he know he was only digging his own pit.
Now, fuel price has continued to rise astronomically while naira continues to crash against the dollar. Tinibu must have realized his folly by now but it's too late. He can't bring back subsidy without appearing like a demented fool. Neither can he regulate the naira as was done before without making a caricature of himself. As things stand now, Tinibu can't do anything to save himself. Very soon naira will get to 1000 per dollar and fuel will get to 1000 per litre.
Even his bigots and sycophants are too hungry and too frustrated to put up a fight on his behalf. He has disgraced them completely and Obidients now make mockery of them everyday.
I bet Buhari, Jonathan and Obasanjo must be laughing hard at Tinibu and his foolishness. I don’t think it was Buhari that set Tinubu up to fail, I think Tinubu undid himself by himself. I read of a report by a committee chaired by Sen. Abiru, the former MD of Polaris bank who they say might be next Minister of Finance even though he’s a serving senator. That committee was set up by Tinubu and his handlers before even inauguration and they came up with what would form the economic blueprint of Tinubu’s administration. They recommended a phased removal of subsidy and a delayed floating of the Naira; a recommendation backed by data. But on Inauguration Day, Tinubu ignored the expert recommendation as informed by data and chose to act on impulse and his immediate instincts. He even said it later in an interview that his men were surprised that he made that pronouncement as it was not part of his speech. The result is the disaster we have now. So, it’s not Buhari’s fault. Even Buhari made provision for subsidy till end of June but Tinubu cut it shorter. And even if it had been gazetted, Tinubu as president had powers to review it. The man no just get sense. |
Politics › Re: Why Are Labour Party Lawmakers Not Kicking About The N70bn by Penguin2: 9:28am On Jul 19, 2023 |
helinues: One would have thought all the elected members of Labour party would have kicked against the N70bn budgeted for NASS as they are from saint political party, but alas, they have kept quiet.
Hypocrisy scattered everywhere You want them to help park Tinubu’s shit? Nah! We will standby and watch Tinubu self destruct. |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Celebrates Peter Obi On His 62nd Birthday (Throwback Photo) by Penguin2: 9:26am On Jul 19, 2023 |
This inconsistent and bipolar patient.
Obi does not need your good wishes.
I won’t be surprised if he turns around to start praising Obi should the Tribunal favour Obi.
Shameless man who stands for nothing like FFK. |
Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 9:18am On Jul 19, 2023 |
GeneralDae: If you read the supreme court's judgement on double nomination, they never quoted 13th July. They said the letter before them shows that Shettima withdrew on 6th July. They dismissed the case based on the fact that:
1) PDP has no locus standi. 2) This idea of double nomination for a VP makes no sense and even Atiku was doubly nominated by Obasanjo.
I can give you the full judgement here. In double nomination, the law spoke more of officials who should be elected.
This is a quote from the supreme court judgement too, they never banked on 13th of July for double nomination.
"Shettima withdrew his senate nomination on 6th July 2022 and was subsequently replaced. At this point, he was no longer a candidate for the Senate, and as such his position as vice president, did not constitute a multiple nomination breach". Read the encircled portion of the letter below 👇 That’s from INEC’s written address to the election petition tribunal. Can you see them tell the court that they received Shettima’s nomination letter on 13th July, 2022?
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Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 8:51am On Jul 19, 2023 |
fergie001: Sometimes don't take things from what they say on Twitter or elsewhere, do some personal research. APM is filing a petition against APC's "placeholder"/substantive Candidate.
-This is a Party that filed its petition on March 20 but subpoenaed INEC on June 19.
-A Party that came overall last in the Presidential Election and seeks to show no injury the alleged whatever nomination will do to them.
- This is a Party whose sole witness openly told the tribunal that she didn't know when Shettima withdrew his Senatorial nomination.
- A Party that publicly backed another petitioner in the same election against the APC and you expect the tribunal that grant their prayer?
-This is a Party whose prayer in Court is to exclude Tinubu and uphold the Victory of Atiku Abubakar (laughable)
-This is a pre-election matter
-They have no jurisdiction
When the Supreme Court has ruled on the case, then what are you expecting?
In your heart of hearts, you know this invalid or whatever nomination will get APM a very good fine and will be so thrashed.
We will be here.
I quoted Sections of the Constitution, you say it is conjectures and you quoted Silas Joseph Onu.
I quoted case laws about FCT, you said... FCT is same as State administratively but above a State for the purpose of election.
I have been waiting for you to cite one, yet you cite people on Twitter.
Normally, I am not supposed to be reacting to people who make this kind of statements. Silas Onu is a lawyer, hopefully, he doesn't take any case before the Lord Justices.
That been the case, this matter has been foreclosed for me, pending judgement. In all my engagements with you, I have never relied on information from Twitter nor quote a Twitter source; never. My position has always been informed by the constitution, the Electoral Act and the much I know of INEC guidelines. So, it’s disingenuous to insinuate that people on Twitter inform my opinion. Lastly, while I agree with you that the matter be foreclosed while we wait for judgment, I need you to know that nothing that happened prior to the election denies APM the right to seek redress in an election they validly participated in. I think in 2015 or thereabout, an Appeal Court in Imo State voided an entire House of Rep election because an unknown character with one the now deregistered political parties, approached the court and argued that INEC unlawfully excluded him and his party from the election. Even though the court and everyone knew that he stood no chance in the election but the law is the law. |
Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 1:24am On Jul 19, 2023 |
GeneralDae: No you are wrong. The law says they must submit the name of the new candidate to INEC within 14 days. That letter of withdrawal is what INEC has officially which is the letter from APC indicating that Shettima would be the VP. That's the letter the supreme court also took from INEC that defeats double nomination. Except you have another letter from the APC after that date tendering Shettima's name. If INEC received the letter 13th of July, then it's not the fault of the APC.
Section 33 once more says:
the political party affected shall, within 14 days of the occurrence of the event, hold a fresh primary election to produce and submit a fresh candidate to the Commission for the election concerned.
You see that the emphasis here is not when the candidate is officially unveiled to the public but when the new candidate is named and his name submitted to INEC.
In this case, the letter to INEC from APC is the evidence of submission and it was written 6th July.
So two points I have against your case:
1) I don't think Vice presidents and Deputy Governors were the focus of section 29 and 33.
2) Even if we agree they were, INEC says the letter they have from APC is on the 6th of July. Lol! You have moved from denying that Vice Presidents and Deputy Governors are bound by the 14 days to now arguing that APC actually beat the deadline. We are getting somewhere. But I need to point out something to you, why are you dwelling on DOUBLE NOMINATION and ignoring the second leg of the case which is INVALID NOMINATION? Need I remind you that the petitioners, Obi and LP, approached the court and petitioned Shettima on the basis of APC’s letter dated 6th July, 2022. Now, had INEC accepted that they received the letter on 6th July, Shettima will be guilty of double nomination. But INEC, in trying to help APC, argued that even though APC’s letter is dated 6th July, they received it on 13th July. Now, I want to ask you, in your thinking, when was Shettima nominated as APC Vice Presidential candidate in the eyes of the law? Is it the day the letter was written (6th July)? Or the day the letter was delivered to and acknowledged by INEC (13th July)? |
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Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 12:17am On Jul 19, 2023 |
GeneralDae: I don't think it applies but even if it does, this is what INEC said today in their written response to the Double nomination case:
Responding to allegations of Mr Shettima’s double nomination, Mr Mahmoud, a Senior Advocate of Nigeria (SAN), said the APC had, in a letter dated 6 July 2022, received on 13 July 2022 by INEC, withdrawn his candidacy for Borno Central Senatorial District to clear the way for his nomination as Mr Tinubu’s running mate.
This means INEC has a letter dated 6th July 2023 (12 days after).
Supreme court also accepted this letter from INEC while dismissing the idea of double nomination in the case of the vice president. So end of story.
APM's case is useless and would likely be dismissed with a fine. The day Shettima became the Vice Presidential candidate of the APC is the day INEC received the letter nominating him as such. The date on the letter is immaterial. No law says letters must be delivered the day they are written. And this response you are talking about is to DOUBLE NOMINATION while APM is contesting INVALID NOMINATION. Need I remind you that Shettima was actually nominated on 6th July. But in trying to beat the DOUBLE NOMINATION trap, they got INEC to lie that they received the letter on the 13th of July, 2022. But in so doing, Tinubu and APC ran into INVALID NOMINATION for staying 6 days (outside the law) without a running mate. |
Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 11:54pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
GeneralDae: My article puts risky because they feared the candidates may refuse to step down. Remember it was both APC and LP who had placeholder at that time. If you read through the entire article that was the concern.
As to what I bolded in your reply, I don't think the law states that exactly as is made clear in my Punch article. It doesn't speak of selected/nominated candidates. If it does, then quote it fully for me. This is section 33 of the electoral act:
A political party shall not be allowed to change or substitute its candidate whose name has been submitted under section 29 of this Act, except in the case of death or withdrawal by the candidate: Provided that in the case of such withdrawal or death of a candidate, the political party affected shall, within 14 days of the occurrence of the event, hold a fresh primary election to produce and submit a fresh candidate to the Commission for the election concerned.
Section 29 does not address placeholders. Placeholders are not initially recorded as running mates.
The bolded in my last reply from the article addresses your point, letting you know that the electoral act was silent on vice presidents and deputy Governors who are nominated and this was why both Tinubu and Obi were probably taking their time because they knew they could replace their placeholders anytime. Just answer a simple question…. If the presidential or governorship candidate which requires a more cumbersome process of new primaries MUST be replaced within 14 days in case of death or withdrawal, why do you think a less cumbersome process of selection should be allowed, in law, to run for a longer period? |
Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 11:10pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
GeneralDae: INEC was just giving them deadlines for the sake of order. As long as every withdrawal is done 90 days before election, you are cool except those party candidates who do primary elections.
Read towards the end of this article in 2022.
"He said, “The political parties are just taking advantage of the provision of the Electoral Act: Section 33 permits the candidates to withdraw or an account of death, may be substituted. The political party will conduct another primary election. Or if he voluntarily withdraws, the political party that is affected “must” within 14 days conduct fresh primary elections to produce another candidate.
“However, in the case of vice-presidents and deputy governors, they don’t conduct primary for them, so the political parties see that as an opening that they can change the names anytime without conducting any primaries.
“That is what they are using but the Electoral Act itself is silent on it. I believe it is the primary that brings in the presidential and governorship candidate but when conducting that nobody talks about the vice-president or the deputy governorship elections".
https://punchng.com/presidential-poll-interim-running-mates-risky-ex-inec-chiefs-warn-apc-lp/?amp You keep missing my point…. Even the title of your article has “risky” in it. And that’s former INEC staff warning of the dangers of the practice of having placeholders. But my contention here, which is the provision of the law, is that whatever anyone is doing, new primary, appointment, selection, etc, MUST happen within 14 days. Take note of the word MUST as used in the Electoral Act which goes to prove that there’s no room for malleability about that provision. Whatever you are doing here are mere conjectures. |
Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 11:02pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
fergie001: See, the Constitution is the Supreme document that guides our laws.
The paraphrased sentence is clearly as it regards to the qualifying and disqualifying factors of the Executive.
A very detailed reading of S187 is clear.....
(1) In any election to which the foregoing provisions of this part of this Chapter relate a candidate for the office of Governor of a State shall not be deemed to have been validly nominated for such office unless he nominates another candidate as his associate for his running for the office of Governor, who is to occupy the office of Deputy Governor; and that candidate shall be deemed to have been duly elected to the office of Deputy Governor if the candidate who nominated him is duly elected as Governor in accordance with the said provisions.
(2) The provisions of this Part of this Chapter relating to qualification for election, tenure of office, disqualifications, declaration of assets and liabilities and Oath of Governor shall apply in relation to the office of Deputy Governor as if references to Governor were references to Deputy Governor.
The same for VP in Section 142 but what is the time-frame?
Yes, they are tied for the purpose of election but was there a time-frame to make these appointments by the CFRN? No.
It is the EA that now buttresses the limitation factors of time. This same Act is silent on some of these things and only says that final list will be published 90 days to the election.
What this means is that, you can have 100 VPs withdraw and you replace them with the time-frame in mind.
IF the EA had said something like this: ...the political party to submit the name of a fresh candidate within 14 days of the withdrawal of the former candidate by conducting fresh primaries, or in the case of a vice presidential candidate or deputy governor, by selection.
It will have been a different matter.
I have explained this.... Does the Vice President or Deputy-Gov go through a fresh Primary election?
These are non-elective positions and the EA does not cover the field.
90 days to the election (that is Nov 25, 2022) will have been the deadline. Quite uncharacteristic of you, in all these things you have said, you cited no case law to support your position which goes to prove that whatever you are saying here are mere conjectures. Between primaries and appointment, which is more difficult? Why should a more difficult and rigorous process have a 14 days timeline but the less rigorous left to run ad infinitum until 90 days to the election? If president and governors are tied to their deputies by same umbilical chord, then whatever pertains to the nomination of the president or governor equally applies to their deputies. This thing shouldn’t be difficult. Any other interpretation is a bizarre criminal arm-twisting of the law. Just as an addendum, if my memories don't fail me.
On 17th June 2022, the LP Presidential Candidate, Peter Obi chose Doyin Okupe as place-holder Vice Presidential Candidate.
Okupe sent his withdrawal letter on 07th July 2022 and Datti was unveiled/announced on July 08. Following Silas Joseph Onu's narrative, is it safe to say that Obi had no Vice from 07th-08th hence that is also invalid nomination?
So you see, it is not in our place to insert into our laws what is not. Hence, the NA has to go back and plug that hole. In the bolded, you are now sounding like you are yet to understand the crux of what is in contest here, and by implication the APM case. You just said Okupe withdrew on July 7th. Datti was nominated on July 8th. Difference in days: 1 day. Balance by provision of law: +13 days. In Tinubu’s case however…. Ibrahim Masari withdrew on June 24th. Shettima got nominated on July 14th. Difference in days: 21 days. Deficit by provision of law: - 7 days. Now, for exhausting the window provided in law within which to replace his running mate who withdrew, and extending it by 7 days, Tinubu invalidated his candidacy. Do you have a full grasp now or you want more clarity? |
Politics › Re: “My Lord, Tell Me Where To Keep Your Bribe.” - By Prof Niyi Osundare by Penguin2(op): 8:11pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
TheBillyonaire: The Poet should be arrested by DSS for insinuating that President Tinubu will stoop so low to bribe judges;
Discussion continues <<<<<<<<<<<
End of Discussion.>>>>>>>>>>> Where did you see Tinubu in the poem? Or guilty conscience already torturing you? |
Politics › “My Lord, Tell Me Where To Keep Your Bribe.” - By Prof Niyi Osundare by Penguin2(op): 7:01pm On Jul 18, 2023*. Modified: 8:17pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
Prof Niyi Osundare boldly lampoons and ridicules Judges And NJC in an illustrative poetry entitled:
*My Lord, Tell Me Where To Keep Your Bribe* A lovely piece of poem by a blunt and courageous poet that will make your day.... “My Lord, Tell me Where to Keep your Bribe.
A poem by Prof. Niyi Osundare.
Do I drop it in your venerable chambers
Or carry the heavy booty to your immaculate mansion
Shall I bury it in the capacious water tank
In your well laundered backyard Or will it breathe better in the septic tank
Since money can deodorize the smelliest crime
Shall I haul it up the attic
Between the ceiling and your lofty roof
Or shall I conjure the walls to open up
And swallow this sudden bounty from your honest labour Shall I give a billion to each of your paramours
The black, the light, the Fanta-yellow They will surely know how to keep the loot
In places too remote for the sniffing dog
Or shall I use the particulars
Of your anonymous maidservants and manservants With their names on overflowing bank accounts
While they famish like ownerless dogs
Shall I haul it all to your village
In the valley behind seven mountains Where potholes swallow up the hugest jeep
And Penury leaves a scar on every house
My Lord It will take the fastest machine Many, many days to count this booty; and lucky bank bosses
May help themselves to a fraction of the loot
My Lord
Tell me where to keep your bribe?
The “last hope of the common man”
Has become the last bastion of the criminally rich
A terrible plague bestrides the land
Besieged by rapacious judges and venal lawyers
Behind the antiquated wig
And the slavish glove
The penguin gown and the obfuscating jargon
Is a rot and riot whose stench is choking the land
Behind the rituals and roted rigmaroles
Old antics connive with new tricks
Behind the prim-and-proper costumes of masquerades
Corruption stands, naked, in its insolent impunity
For sale to the highest bidder
Interlocutory and perpetual injunctions
Opulent criminals shop for pliant judges
Protect the criminal, enshrine the crime
And Election Petition Tribunals
Ah, bless those goldmines and bottomless booties!
Scoundrel vote-riggers romp to electoral victory
All hail our buyable Bench and conniving Bar
A million dollars in Their Lordship’s bedroom
A million euros in the parlor closet
Countless naira beneath the kitchen sink
Our courts are fast running out of Ghana-must-go’s*
The “Temple of Justice”
Is broken in every brick
The roof is roundly perforated
By termites of graft
My Lord
Tell me where to keep your bribe?
Judges doze in the courtroom
Having spent all night, counting money and various “gifts”
And the Chief Justice looks on with tired eyes As Corruption usurps his gavel.
A million dollars in Their Lordship’s bedroom
A million euros in the parlor closet
Countless naira beneath the kitchen sink
Our courts are fast running out of Ghana-must-go’s*
The “Temple of Justice” https://twitter.com/justsociety4all/status/1681248190618583040?s=46&t=2AB_wrBea-oBYJf5ZCFV-A
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Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 2:32pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
GeneralDae: The law is speaking of candidates who emerge via elections in their party. A vice president is simply nominated not elected, so I don't see how those rules apply to a vice president. Same with this whole double nomination brouhaha. Where in the law does it indicate that candidates who are nominated are subject to double nomination scrutiny as long as they resign from the other position 90 days before the election? Atiku was to be Governor of Adamawa but then was nominated by Obasanjo.
Simply put, a vice president is totally at the discretion of the president and it's a nomination. Section 33 Law speaks only of candidates who undergo primary elections. In essence you are saying therefore, that INEC has been breaking the law by giving a stipulated timeframe for which gubernatorial and presidential candidates must nominate running mates? |
Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 2:06pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
GeneralDae: So that section speaks about conducting primary election within 14 days, are primary elections conducted for vice presidents? That a primary election is not needed, isn’t that the reason it should be faster? Or why would the law stipulate 14 days for a more cumbersome process that requires new primaries but allow an infinite amount of days for a process that just requires appointment? Again, are you oblivious of the Supreme Court ruling that the governor and his deputy, and by implication, president and vice, that are tied to the same umbilical chord? Even in the constitution the requirements for the office of the Vice President is the same as for the president. Why then would it be the replacement of a Vice President who withdraws that would not conform with the timeline required of the president? |
Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 1:52pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
fergie001: The 1999 CFRN states you cannot be elected without a Vice President.
The time frames are a product of the EA which guides our elections. S31 made it clear that by 90 days to the election all names should be with INEC. The same 1999 CFRN while talking about qualifying criteria for deputy governors and Vice Presidents, states that “references should be made as though it were for the governor/president” (paraphrased). Again, the Supreme Court has ruled that the governor and his deputy, and by implication the president and his vice, are tied to the same umbilical chord; in that what affects one, affects the other. With the above in mind, tell me why the replacement for a presidential or governorship candidate must happen within 14 days but that of the Vice President or deputy governor is not bound by that provision? |
Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 1:46pm On Jul 18, 2023 |
GeneralDae: Is this the part of the law you are talking about? Section 33 ba? Yea. Thank you for producing the section. |
Politics › Re: Buharists Now Orphans In APC – Shehu Sani by Penguin2: 12:51am On Jul 18, 2023 |
GodSon1900: WELL I still see Tinubu coming on top
If there is a rerun
This time Tinubu would have block votes from all SW states A lot of northerners votes Some votes from ss Hmmmm! Funny… Which state in Southsouth do you really think will vote Tinubu? And which state in the north will vote him? Where do you think Tinubu is popular? |
Politics › Re: Buharists Now Orphans In APC – Shehu Sani by Penguin2: 12:06am On Jul 18, 2023 |
GodSon1900: If there is a rerun who do you think would come first? I would have liked to say Obi but a lot of dynamics might come into play that might lead to parties merging to support each other and I won’t be surprised if Obi and Atiku do a deal for Obi to step down for Atiku. I’m just speculating |
Politics › Re: Human Right Activist, Silas Joseph Onu, Analysed The Petition Of APM Against APC by Penguin2: 12:00am On Jul 18, 2023 |
Afamed: Una no dey tire? Na des kind same long story you write before the election Tell me one thing I said before the election that did not come to pass. Did Obi not win the election that Enugu had to mess itself up just to stop him? This much has been confirmed by majority of Nigerians and Local and International observers. If you have lost the ability to separate truth from falsehood due to tribalism, majority of us haven’t. And I’m sure you lots are disappointed that we have refused to move on. Your estimation was that once Tinubu is announced everyone will move on, but you were so wrong. Tinubu will be hounded and his declaration made to taste like ash in his mouth until he is booted out from that place. |
Politics › Re: Buharists Now Orphans In APC – Shehu Sani by Penguin2: 11:53pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Iamgrey5: Oh you forget there's the supreme court where the chief judge is a Yoruba man? Oh! So it’s now about Yoruba man, not about the law? |
Politics › Re: “Tinubu’s Nomination Is Invalid.” APM Tells Tribunal As It Closes Its Case. by Penguin2(op): 11:46pm On Jul 17, 2023*. Modified: 12:09am On Jul 18, 2023 |
fergie001: garfield1 can help me here.
What I said was that some pre-election matters can crystallise to post-election only if it touches on the constitutional eligibility requirements of that Candidate. (I will add some screenshots if I can). I also referenced forgery as one of those eligibility requirements! It is not the case here.
They have not showed the injury they suffered, they do not even seek to benefit from the judgement.
Only for elective Candidate. That is why the issue of fresh primary election was mentioned. The EA is silent for non-elective Candidates.
Because it is for elective position. That is Senatorial, Abia is for Governorship.
Tinubu's running mate who is the subject of this case is not contesting an elective position. He doesn't need a fresh primary to be so nominated. Again, even if there was no strict adherence only an aspirant in APC can sue and will do so in 14 days.
The lacuna in the EA wrt is why the Court will say nothing on it. It is issues like this that will make the NA to amend that aspect of our laws. Okay. Let’s await the judgment of the Tribunal on the matter. But if we were to go with your lacuna argument, it means that Tinubu might as well get elected without a running mate since the provisions Electoral Act is not binding on non-elective candidate replacement. Right? |
Politics › Re: Asari Dokubo’s Flaunting Of Weapons Highlights Inequality Before Nigeria’s Law by Penguin2: 5:36pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Thank |
Politics › Re: Buharists Now Orphans In APC – Shehu Sani by Penguin2: 5:26pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Lol!
If Tribunal declares rerun eh, the way Tinubu will loose will be too hard for INEC to rig even if Seyi Tinubu is the Chairman.
So much enemies in less than 2 months for a man without supporters. |
Politics › Re: EU-EOM Is Right! Tinubu Is President Through A Tainted Poll - Businessday NG by Penguin2: 4:59pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
Lol!
It’s good to see men of good conscience who haven’t sold their conscience for 8k speaking up.
And guess what, he’s Yoruba. Maybe Agbado people will say he’s IPOB branch in Osogbo.
The truth is that INEC organized a sham.
Nigerians have attested to this fact.
Civil Society Organisations have attested to this fact.
And the international community has done the same.
Only INEC and Tinubu Agbado munching boys think they are right.
And now we look to the Judiciary to she still has her conscience or if she has eaten Agbado. |
Politics › Re: Did Hope Uzodimma (4th) Sue Candidates Of AA And APGA (2nd & 3rd) In 2019? by Penguin2(op): 4:52pm On Jul 17, 2023 |
pquaver: We said it was ok cos hope proof his case if obi does why not.. But ur hypocrisy is saying 4th can't be first under no condition now it affects ur beloved obi u want 3rd to be 2st how!!! But you have accepted that Uzodimma did not talk about drugs and certificates in court because Ihedioha is not a drug dealer and certificate forger like Tinubu? |