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40 years ago when the world was yet to be damaged by materialism.

BluntCrazeMan:
Talking about Overwhelming...

Prof Yakubu was also overwhelmed too..
... overwhelmed with lots of fake results which got up to his table from the lower levels, and he declared them like that.

So, I ask again.
Is there anything that would be done differently this time around in order to prevent those written fake results from being brought to the table of the final announcer?

(As for me, I have some ideas which I am still testing.. I will not announce it yet, until I'm done testing, AND THE RESULTS ARE GOOD)

The reason Yakubu succeeded in 2023 is because he told the world that results will be transmitted electronically, eliminating any chance of rigging, and we believed him. Hence, no one was prepared for any alternative outcome.

But do you really think Nigerians will be ready to tolerate that kind of rubbish again in 2027?

BluntCrazeMan:
This current INEC cannot give it..
(I guess you know that already)

So, is there anything that can be done differently this time?

As much as Jega is praised, INEC under him wasn’t perfect either. They were simply overwhelmed and couldn’t help but declare Buhari.

That’s what everybody interested in rescuing Nigeria should do. From the coalition to all political parties and every Nigerian.

The strategy should be to overwhelm INEC until they have no option.

If you are hoping to get institutional reforms from Tinubu by analyzing Supreme Court judgments and requesting INEC to follow their own guidelines, you go wait tire.

BluntCrazeMan:
I lost hope after the rubbish that happened in November 2023 (Bayelsa, Imo, Kogi)...

If you noticed, I reduced my commenting on electoral issues.
I stopped pushing.

But then, if we didn't look inwards, these people will never have any better change.

We can push for a change and have it.
It depends on how strong and how smart we are able to push.

The only change I’m invested in pushing for is the change of the head (president) because I know that is what will make all the difference.

And I’m not supporting just anybody for the presidency. It has to be Obi or let the rot continue.

BluntCrazeMan:
My brother,, I have no other country.
This is the only country I know.
So, I have no other option than to continue being optimistic.




I believe that one day, they would be boxed to a corner, and they cannot have any other escape routes again.




One day, they will get tired of arguing.
They will look for things to argue with, and they will not find.!!

Lol! Let’s hope so.

Until then, I’ve lost hope in Nigerian Judiciary and institutions as a whole.

BluntCrazeMan:
SUMMARY OF THE SUPREME-COURT JUDGEMENT ON THE EDO STATE ELECTION PETITION OF ASUE IGHODALO AND PDP VERSUS INEC AND MONDAY OKPEBHOLO AND APC.




You can download a copy of the Supreme Court Judgement through the link below...

https://drive.usercontent.google.com/u/0/uc?id=1leUwfYA_ef5PC5usRS0p7Uuo7PwXGm7W&export=download
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Here below are some of the new lessons which I learnt from the Supreme Court Judgement of the Edo State Election Petition..

Lol!

I like how optimistic you always are about Nigerian institutions under Tinubu.

So, you think Asue lost because of all these jargons the Supreme Court justices wrote here?

They had a predetermined outcome in mind, which was to retain Okpebholo whether by hook or crook, and no evidence or legal arguments would have been enough.

You need to stop saying you have “learned” something from the judgment because if you do the things they’ve stated here in another Tribunal litigation, they will argue from another angle.

Let’s focus on getting the right head as president who will appoint a CJN that will clean the rot. Any other thing is waste of time.

Tinubu will still get tired.

They noticed the first idiot they co-opted to do the job had no locus as he had previously resigned his membership of ADC and they recruited a new idiot.

In the end, all these are efforts in futility. Because Supreme Court has said parties should decide their leadership and INEC recognized chairman and secretary of ADC wrote to INEC and invited them to a NEC meeting where the party chose new leadership for itself which is legally binding on all parties including INEC.

All these are just media entertainments to excite Agbado people.

And in the end, ADC might just be the smokescreen. The choice of the party for contest of elections may even shock everyone.

So, make una dey waste una time.

Baawaa:
With Atiku in ADC,Ameachi and Obi cannot get the ticket ,Ameachi will finally be a running mate to Atiku,that is the game

And when you people are done, you get ready to collect your losing ticket from INEC just like in 2023.

We told you this same thing in 2023 when Atiku chose Okowa but you guys swore Okowa was more valuable than Obi but you got cleared.

Now, as we prepare for 2027, you lots are back to the same rhetorics and hoping for a different outcome.

As usual, be our guest in 2027.

Peter Obi or let Tinubu have his 8 years.

fergie001:
I have been telling Penguin2 since April that Obi should not contest. Sponsor people instead, House of Reps, Senate, even Governorship. Continue your philanthropy and your voice will continue to resonate, I know his inner circle will tell him not to listen!

It's not a matter of coming out to endorse anybody... Condition 1 very possible.
Conditions 2 & 3 never happening. Onwuabasi should just rest, he has made his mark and written his name in the sands of time.

But you and I know that until Peter Obi is on the top and implements the necessary electoral reforms, the candidates he supports may not win anything again.

I don’t buy that he should stop contesting.

In fact, if he fails in 2027, let him drag it with the north in 2031.

Like I told you before, we will never get anywhere if we are waiting for when they will tell us “come and take”.

We have to keep forcing our way until they let us in.

franchasng:
Nigeria is not yet prepared for quality leadership.


They need to play their tribal-religious politics for another 100 years so that more Nigerians can kpai of hunger to enable the fortunate ones that survive it to have some sense and boldness to demand and fight for good leadership devoid of tribal-religious rhetorics they are currently doing now.


Youths from my region reading this should just focus on improving their lives through foreign migration (Japa), trade, entrepreneurship, skill acquisition and personal development which never fails no matter the government in power.


We have fought a good fight but the people we are occupying same nation with are not ready, they are still stuck in the 1960s events, so let them continue until hunger and hardship reduce their number to a reasonable population

Fair enough! But I’m a firm believer in never giving up; you can call it dangerous optimism.

If we let the ruiners (like Dele Faratomi calls them), they will never give way. We have to keep pushing until we push them away.

Okoroawusa:
Bro take it easy. The constitution is quite clear about things like this. Whether he wrote a letter or not, once the governor or president is not around automatically the vice president or deputy gets into the acting position.
It was changed after the incident of Yar'Adua and Jonathan.

Why did it not come into effect when Buhari was away for more than the period stipulated by the new amendment?

Sakamanje!

He wants us to see him as a democrat.

Make him president and he will never do this with his Vice President.

These are gimmicks for the camera.

fergie001:
Yes, let him go to the PDP he left 20 years ago and let them deal with him properly so he will know what politics is. Nobody is giving him any ticket.

Even if PDP microzones to Southeast?

Who else would get it?

Fergie001

The south has been asked to go and microzone the presidential slot.

Now, considering that the Southsouth has produced a president recently and the Southwest currently in power, I see them microzoning to Southeast.

And once NEC rectifies the microzoning to Southeast, I can comfortably go to Obi’s house and lead him by the hand back to PDP; because he would have no challenger at all.

Peter Obi might run on the platform of PDP.

But fingers crossed!

He learnt from Tinubu and Wike.

That’s the consequences of supporting rubbish.

Now, how can you condemn him when you have not condemned his mentors.

victorv12:
Bro, if the DSS picks you up, it’ll play out like a full-blown movie. I hope you are not in Nigeria? If you're in Nigeria, I pity you.

Pick me up for what?

Nigeria is becoming a ridicule on the globe because of the idiots in Aso Rock.

Funny how the fools think they world doesn’t see what is going on; but they do.

Imagine Interpol refusing to honour their declaration. Chai!

Congratulations to them and all those egging them on.

LagosOrigin:
The Igbos are the real powerhouse of Lagos . Na Igbos invest pass and na Igbos dey buy dia house pass in Lagos .

Lol! Don’t trigger some people o.

MufasaLion:
South West leads, others follow. I hope the governors of other regions could emulate their South West counterparts.

Easy!

Southwest gathered its points because of Lagos, and we know those in Lagos that gave Lagos the point - Igbos.

Remove Lagos and Southwest will be competing with Northeast.

fergie001:
Don't let anyone deceive you, it's a death knell.
He knew all the while, that's why the boy was far away from his campaign or even the country as a whole. Infact, there are more photos surfacing by the day and to say I am shocked is to put it mildly. It doesn't even have to do with his father's chances or not, a boy brought up under a man who is a core and conservative Roman Catholic, that's one of the last things you will perceive. He can't wriggle away from this, I don't even know how he will do this.
His son has nothing to lose so what's his business. Well, I wish all of them the best.

We really wish them the best.

But I trust Obi, he will find a way to wriggle himself out of it.

But only time will tell.

fergie001:
Like what was he thinking putting it out there or even getting involved in it in the first place?

I can't wrap my head around it.

But it wasn’t Oseloka that posted it na, it was the other ijiot in female clothing.

But how did Obi let his son derial to this extent?

For a personality like Obi, all his children should have world class mentors constantly in their lives ensuring they do not do anything to jeopardize their father’s chances.

Because whilst this may not be a deathnail, it’s really going to cause some damage especially in conservative Muslim north.

It’s pathetic!

fergie001:
Let's be honest, there is no coming back from this.

It was good whilst it lasted, let him find a PR way and ease out unless let's say it's a movie been shot.

My children will do nursery, primary and secondary schools in Nigeria; in the East precisely.

And in a mixed school. Not all boys nor all girls school.

I’d rather deal with my teenage son getting a girl pregnant than deal with this kind of rubbish.

This is indefensible and unfortunate.

grandstar:
Penguin2

It might be indicative of what to expect but it is still too early.

It does show that the APC or Tinubu has a lot of support in the North, especially among Northern Muslims.

It also indicativer that ADC is all shadows and no substance, and that Peter Obi's romance with them and Elrufai may be his nemesis.

Especially among northern Christians.

I think if Obi continues to associate with Elrufai he might lose the support of northern christians

theredaddy:
And who are the Naysayers if Not Tinubu sycophants and apc dogs ... any political ethuthiast would have anticipated those gimmick,

ADC coalition has no face yet, expecting ADC to win at the bye election is like expecting 6month baby to walk ... e don crawl

APC was formed in 2013 and can anyone explain why they didnt win any election until 2015

Apc didnt win any state election until 2016 which was Ondo, meaning the presidential win of 2015 was the "unlock"


APC had a face prior to 2015 .. sai baba

Lp had a face prior to 2023 ... obedient

Now ADC ... or who knows

we are yet to get to that point of connecting with ADC.. manage your expectations

Valid points!

casualobserver:
Obi rigged, he would have won overwhelmingly but he rigged, we saw the videos. Everybody rigs. Rigging is part of the Nigerian DNA. Obi rigged when he was governor so why suddenly would he not rig in 2023 in an election where he can declare what he wants unopposed? . It is precisely in zones where you have overwhelming support that the most rigging occurs because you have the terrain to yourself and nobody will contest the result.

You lost an election so your opponent had no need to examine your votes does not mean you did not rig. You accused your opponent of rigging does not mean you did not rig yourself. That I said he rigged does not mean I was saying he still would not have won with a landslide. We have seen elections lost because a contestant overinflated the votes in his stronghold and they were cancelled, yet he would have won without the rigging. . We have seen elections where a contestant inflated the results in his stronghold even though he would have won without rigging, an example being Uzodinma in 2023. Every politician (or his foot soldiers) rigs in his stronghold if he can.


As for the rest keep arguing. At this stage I am tired of years of telling you guys how things will unfold and you guys always pushing back only for them to unfold exactly as I said. The day Obi left PDP, I said he just handed the presidency to Tinubu, I got so much pushback here on Nairaland maybe even you might have been one of them. Now suddenly they now realize a divided house cannot win an election and they are running around trying to form a coalition. It really amazes me how Nigerians can’t see what is staring them right in the face!


You can’t play the religious card in Benue and Plateau! The Benue conflicts turns out to be inter tribal conflicts.

In 2023, Peter Obi won the election but INEC shutdown the IREV and conjured numbers for Tinubu.

You can choose to lie to yourself and believe that Tinubu won Rivers.

If today, it’s taken as official that Tinubu won Rivers, then imagine other atrocities that happened in that election that is now official. Or those things don’t count?

And saying that Benue is inter-tribal war, what has Tinubu done to stop the war?

And how did you arrive at the war being inter-tribal when the governor of the state has told the world on national television that foreigners have invaded his state and trying to displace his people?

Or do you now know more than the governor that receives intelligence everyday?

casualobserver:
Look. Ordinarily these elections don’t mean anything. These elections were significant for the following reasons:

1: it shows governors matter
2: it shows that despite hardship, the electorate are not as against Tinubu as online media will have you believe.
3: it shows the ADC members are not as influential as they claim…..even Obi!
4: it shows Obi will not perform as well in the Christian North. The religious card of 2023 is gone! That will affect his votes in SW and middle belt!
5: it shows Obi rigged a lot of SE votes.
6: it was the 1st test of the coalition and they were humiliated…..even though it was a bye election, it matters!
7: it shows Obi won’t pull as many gotes even in his SE!

It is instructive to note that at the victory rally Soludo raised the hand of the senator elect and told the crowd that while Anambra is APGA but we are sending him to Abuja not to do opposition but to do alliance with the progressives in aAbuja to o which the crowd applauded! I believe SS governors were afraid to be seen to work against their own in 2023. But the defections in the SS has woken them up.

Obi will do well in the SE in presidential elections but what that statement says to me is that SE governors are going to work hard to deliver votes for Tinubu in 2027 and make it harder for Obi to rig. Again like I said this is governors are important. Recent statements by Orji Kalu and Umahi reinforce the realization by SE politicians, that they need to work hard to deliver votes for Tinubu otherwise they won’t stand a chance against the SS when next presidency returns to the south. Like I always say, the entire SW votes are up for grabs from 2031-2055 as we shall not be on the ballot!

The only thing you said here that I agree with is that governors matter. Anyone who denies that governors matter is lying to himself. But their influence is not beyond their SSAs and the numbers their SSAs can influence and maybe the security architecture under their command.

But saying Obi rigged Southeast is just big fat lie. I’ll tell you again that the numbers Tinubu got in Imo and Ebonyi was manufactured by Umahi and Uzodimma.

Will Obi get the votes of Christian north? Only time will tell.

But if we diagnose the Christian north, the only part of Christian north that has experienced something different under Tinubu regime is Southern Kaduna with the restoration of security and the establishment of FMC and a Federal University.

But apart from Southern Kaduna, would you say the same of Plateau and Benue where killings have but doubled? Or Benue and Plateau have no brains? They will still queue up and vote Tinubu abi?

Cherrybae:
Why are you not responding to those who referred you to your previous comment where you boasted ADC will sweep the two seats in Anambra.

You asked you be bookmarked. I'm shocked you have shifted goal post bow to off cycle.

Try and be calculative before you say anything.

All your ordinations none has ever come to past.

I bet you, I will do everything to get your moniker banned for life on Nairaland if you predict anything again and it's fails and you fail to take responsibility or appologize.

Bookmark this my comment.

Enough of this shifting of goal post with cheap excuses.

Accept your party lost, go back and strategize than shifting goal pist

Talk to me when INEC starts conducting credible elections.

My predictions are always based on things happening as they are designed to be.

But when you organize the kind of elections that brought Okpebholo as governor in Edo, you have no right to come here and mock the failure of my predictions.

helinues:
Okay. So ADC and SDP are not also on the ballot? You knew the bye election is not organic yet you claimed ADC would win in Anambra state

We bookmarked your comments by saving the screenshot for future purpose.

You know up till this moment, you are yet to have a single accurate analysis or support on this forum

Because INEC shut down IREV in 2023?

And did you lots not say Obi will not get up to 1million votes in the last election? Was your own prediction right?

sreamsense:
You and many like you always like to dwell in self deceit by always finding formular and excuses to console yourselves even failure. If it were ADC or LP that won well yesterday, in your logical mind; it will determine 2027, right? By now, many obidients would have flooded social media mocking APC and Tinubu. How is it hard for you to understand on time that ADC or LP have been rejected and thrown to the dustbins? Don't you know yesterday election would reshape opinion of people that are considering to join ADC or LP?

People that have decamped will be regretting and doubting themselves in secret that they are assemblies of rejected people. What else do you expect in 2027 that is not close? Obi can't win southern Kaduna again because of Tinubu inclusive governance to them, now you saw how they voted for APC yesterday. Obi can't win Lagos again, Obi can't win Abuja again. Those who are sharp and intelligent in south south have seen the handwriting in the walls and they quickly aligned with APC while you are still consoling yourself in political failure. You will see that Delta and Akwa Ibom will be happy with that yesterday results and will be proud that they made right decision on time. This will make many ordinary south south voters to give their votes to Tinubu/APC in 2027; Obi votes from South south will be reduced.

South east alone can't make him president. Obi criticizing everything blindly in Tinubu governments including what is clear to majority as good policies to be seeing as major political opposition is only exposing himself to be incompetent especially when he counters with unverified statistics to dish out lies that easily bursted. Even Tinubu will get more votes in the south east in 2027 than he did on 2023 while Obi will get less votes from south west and south south than he did in 2023

Don’t rejoice too early.

Even Tinubu knows that he cannot be confident of anything based on yesterday’s election.

The off cycle election is not usually organic. Only mobilized voters go to polling stations which makes the best mobilizer win.

helinues:
Weekend wey go flenjo, you should start seeing the sign on Friday

ADC and LP won zero seat.

The politicians which you guys are claiming have one vote, you people forgot that they also have loyal supporters that are ready to follow any direction they take.

The bye election is a clear sign that the coalition/opposition don't stand a chance in 2027

Labour Party was not on the ballot yesterday and you know this. Stop being mischievous.

Again, one thing I noticed about off cycle elections is that it’s not organic. It’s usually won by the candidate who mobilizes the highest voters to the polling stations.