₦airaland Forum

Eriokanmi:
That drug baron is a disaster. He rejected fusing any relationship with buhari 2 times in the past. The moment he was promised VP and Presisent after Buhari's tenure, he changed baton, odę. He thinks funalis are mumu . Wetin pain me pass be say, he no consider our people before agreeing to such arrangement. Afenifere who made him what he is today by approving him to be their candidate for Lagos in 1999 warned him but he refused. Mr restructuring suddenly became Mr change. It serves him right.

Serves him very right. I pray Buhari and his men continue to kneel on his neck.

Very stupid man.

NaijirianKing:
In Nigeria perception can be a two way street, how you're perceived locally and then nationally.

For example, here in the North, Wike, Pete Odili and Rotimi Amaechi are all perceived as generally being "Igbo." Moreover, some Igbo from the SE may agree from a cultural standpoint that these men are in fact their brothers, but then these same Igbos from the SE would disagree that these people listed are "politically" Igbo...

Meaning that, If every Nigerian decided that 2023 is for "Igbo Presidency", most Igbo would not allow these men to take such a position although they are most certainly brothers at the least. Perception is key. For whatever reason, the Igbos in the SS are viewed as politically less Igbo than the Igbo in the SE.

Furthermore, politically, Kwara, Benue, and Kogi are all viewed as part of the greater "North," however these states are viewed as being more politically North, than culturally Northern. Plateau state is also a state with similar problems, Plateau is generally considered and viewed as the most Northern "southern" state, and this is partially due to the religious differences they have from the rest of the North. So yes, there is a perception issue these states grapple with being a part of the greater North and this affects them politically.

This problem in perception is yet to be truly mended and who knows if it will ever be truly mended, a large part of it has to do with the culture of those states and that they are at the fringes of what some would consider the traditional North.

So yes, the perception will haunt certain groups politically when they want to take positions reserved for certain regions. This is a large part as to why the NC has been politically under utilized when it comes to truly leading the North. Currently, the most culturally Northern state in NC is Niger state.

Niger state traditionally stands the best chance of being politically and culturally sellable to the greater North. These are just the political realities despite whether or not we see them as fair.

Forgive me, I’ve been restraining myself from saying this but I just have to say that you are too intelligent to be a northerner. Just wow!

And I don’t would be wrong if I were to guess that you are either a Masters Degree holder or you even hold a PhD. Your choice of words are just impeccable.

That said, you just mirrored the political realities of the country and confirmed my thinking all along.

Only someone from Niger State, to some extent Nasarawa,can garner votes from the core northern states and that’s why I’m not enthusiastic about Saraki. I wouldn’t be surprised if the north vote Tinubu over Saraki if the two were to bear the flag of their respective parties.

But these things you have just enunciated are reasons enough for the NC to want to chart it’s own political course away from the core north. Over the years they’ve only used you guys to add to numbers for their selfish political interest.

Lastly, please you are too intelligent to queue behind Yahaya Bello. Man is too inept for someone like you to accept him as the mouthpiece of the NC. There are more worthy people from that zone who can do the job and command respect from the rest of Nigerians. We consider Yahaya Bello a jester at worst. Reason you don’t see anyone talk about him or his inexistent ambition.

Shalom my friend.

itsme01:
Keep your warnings if you are certain he would lose then you should be happy he contest so your candidate can have a easy win

Meet you at the ballot.. on BAT 2023 mandate we stand on so no shaking

We have nothing to lose, not money, not presitge , not his. Previous achievements as a democrat


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We would have been glad to see him contest but unfortunately APC won’t give his sorry ass ticket.

Maybe he’s gonna fly the ticket of APM.

itsme01:
And when have you seen SWAGA members to r Tinubu himself solicit for reciprocating of support by Buhari?!

The people speaking of reciprocating support are Northerners... Saying Tinubu helped their son and brother


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Noted!

So Buhari owes Tinubu nothing then.

The warning keeps coming from left, right and center that nobody wants the opolo eye at the center of our common patrimony but his urchins keeps urging him on.

Tinubu touts think it’s “owomida” we are talking about.

E go soon clear for una eye sha...

itsme01:
Only the two men can define the terms of their political partnership and their witness Baba Akande, with their Gentlemen agreement

So you do not know the terms of agreement between the two men?

On what grounds have you guys been standing to insist that Buhari should support Tinubu’s ambition in reciprocation of their agreement?

itsme01:
Go and read Baba Akande's book and educate yourself on the subject

Buhari and Akande were close before Tinubu, Buhari came to meet Akande to talk to Tinubu on a Partnership with him, which Akande mistook for VP slot

Long story short, they had political partnership and alliance and not like Tinubu foister anybody on anyone

By your statement, you are therefore saying that Tinubu played no significant roll in Buhari’s emergence as APC flagbearer?

And if your answer is yes, does it not therefore mean that Tinubu has lost all right and claim to Buhari’s support since he did nothing significant to compel Buhari to support him?

itsme01:
I guess Nigerians are zombies for Tinubu to decide for 200 million citizens and 15 million voters

You are even proud a single man foister a president on you 5%ters

I’m not surprised at your reply because you lots are experts at playing the ostrich.

The world could be burning but as long as it serves your purpose, you would swear it’s raining.

Who influenced Buhari’s emergence as APC flagbearer?

Final campaign and terrorists are approaching Abuja.

Las las na terrorists Buhari go hand over power to.

This is what Tinubu helped foist on Nigeria.

All because of his inordinate ambition. May he never realize that ambition.

flavnwokem:
You forgot to add that he wrote for himself 230,000 votes from only the Apc primary which the general election of the whole Anambra state cannot boast of... The direct primary is an open cheque to write any number you desire.

Very funny fool.

I’m sure Hope Uzodimma’s story in Imo is giving him hope that the story would be the same for him in Anambra.

But such a thing shall never happen again.

Kriss216:
Harmattan don dey blow back your senses. That's good.

Very good o

NaijirianKing:
Interesting analysis. I agree in part, and disagree in part.

If APC fields a southerner, most likely it will be a SW politician.

APC is not strong enough in the SS and SE for one of them to take the ticket from TInubu without another faction within the party making it so, as such, it would be the North that would have to back a SS or SE candidate under the APC. At present, that will take some serious politicking and I don't see it happening.

Accordingly, if APC gives their ticket to the SW, the SE and the SS will be lost as they are not in lock step with the SW presidency project, as such, the SW will need the North to make up the shortage of votes.

The SW has a great deal of power within the party, but externally, the SW has very little power over the rest of the south, talk less of the entire North.

Moreover, if Tinubu is selected as the APC presidential flag bearer his religion will create a situation where it may become a political reality to have a Christian Northerner as VP, that in and of itself creates another problem for him.

Unfortunately, Christianity is seen as an outside religion in the North.. this is just the reality. Accordingly, a Tinubu presidential campaign will most likely have a Muslim as VP and Muslim as a Presidential candidate, this will further alienate the south. I as a Muslim personally have no problem with such a ticket, but the reality is that Christians are sensitive to such events as they are in a slight minority position in this country and religious balance is a big issue for them.

Many Northerners are of the mind that the SW has benefitted enough under this administration, and have already had the presidency, additionally the North is looking for a Northerner who will have the North's interest at heart as the North is the most chaotic and insecure as we have ever witness.

A politically savvy Northerner can use the fissures and divisions in the south to get the SS/SE block while having home field advantage in the North. This is something that the SS/SE politicians cannot guarantee as Presidential candidates. So if APC goes with the SW, it will spell their doom as PDP will go with a strong Northerner from the NC or NE, and then a VP from the SS or SE to clean up and politically isolate the SW to just their enclave of voters.

It is a chess move, where everyone wins. The NC or NE will finally get the Presidency, and the SE or SS will get the VP position to either make up for GEJ being ousted if the SS gets it, or to bring the SE back into the mainstream if the SE gets the VP position. It is a political victory on many fronts.

Forget all this talk about Tinubu this and that, the real battle is between the NC and NE for the Presidency and the SS and the SE for the vice presidency. This is where the real politics are playing out.

Reading through your analysis is exciting.

But from your analysis, 2023 tends to favour PDP returning to power. APC can’t do north without losing.

Aside the Southwest, no other region in the south can guarantee them votes no matter who the candidate is. I don’t need to remind you of the general sentiment towards APC in the SS and SE.

SW and Tinubu is boxed and isolated(to use your word). Worst case scenario, the north will abandon APC for them.

But let’s go particular a little bit, the most prominent politician from the North Central as of today is Saraki and he’s the next most likely person to get the APC ticket aside Atiku. But I have this feeling that the north won’t vote for Saraki because they don’t consider him northern enough. And I’m tempted to think that even the North Central won’t even be comfortable to have somebody from Kwara take their slot.

Is this the true reality of things or I observed wrongly?

BlackfireX:
This harmattan amplifies madness

You think the guy is mad ni?

Umahi/Zulum2023

Look at the mess that Tinubu helped foist on this country.

He deployed his media urchins to paint GEJ’s govt as inept in handling the security problems of the country.

Now look at the idiot he helped into power all because he thinks it’s his shortest route to power.

Just look at the mess that Tinubu helped foist on this country.

And the frog-eyed thief thinks he will get the presidency of this country as reward for all these.

Tinubu shall die without fulfilling that dream he so much covets.

ThatFairGuy1:
You need to get yourself a beautiful life Oswald.
Your ranting won't stop Tinubu from presiding over the affairs of you, your family and your generation unborn. That's the fact

2023 is not far anymore.

I pray we be alive to see the elements of the universe punish Tinubu.

NaijirianKing:
There is a quiet movement slowly forming in the NC, whereby those who are tired of the NC merely playing second fiddle are beginning to rightfully make noise and demand justice.

Bello is just one of many, but he is an ally and very vocal, and due to his prominent position his views are more readily to be published. That being said, I personally don't support his particular candidacy, but support the message to end marginalization of the NC, which is the only region to not be in close proximity to power since our democracy took flight.

Currently, I can only support someone who is coming with equity and equity demands that the NC produce Nigeria's next president since the NC has been short changed and schemed out time and time again.

Zoning means that all zones should equally share in Nigeria, and the NC zone is constantly left out in the cold although the NC has supported ever other region to become president.

The NE also has a rightful claim, but due to Atiku's VP position, they are slightly ahead of the NC and should support the NC. Many in the south are fighting themselves over Tinubu, the simple truth is that he is merely wasting his time. He is not going to receive the support in the North that those in his circle are telling him, they are merely accepting the gifts and money he is moving around. In time he will see this is the plain truth. Shehu Sani tried to warn him last week against those coming to Lagos to collect his money for their "support", which will likely stop the minute they fly back to the North with his "gifts."

Jagaban should be wise and throw his support behind a "friendly" Northerner who will work to ensure Northern votes while the SW will be in lock step with him, however due to his short sightedness he will single handedly cause his own downfall if he presents himself as the APC flag bearer.

The North knows that the south is disunited the and the SW is politically isolated as the SE and SS are not in agreement with SW presidency in 2023.

As such, the south has put the North is position to hold the high card due to their internal fighting. When the time is right, all will be revealed, forget the nonsense published in southern papers... the reality on ground is that the North is feeling shortchanged with the current administration, protests are actually erupting in various quarters, a sight seldom seen in this part of the country and the sentiment is that the North needs a President that will repair the damage of the last 6 years.

The NE and NC are greatly being considered by Northern power brokers, but my hope and prayer is that the NC will get the ticket in either APC or PDP.

Also, I don't mean to leave out the SE, it is not they that are not a part of the North's political calculation because they are, but now is not the time to entrust the region with the presidency for obvious reasons that I will leave unsaid. However, the VP position is thier's if they throw
their support behind the NC or even NE. The most viable route to the Presidency is the NC or NE President & SE VP, or even SS VP, but that will be a fight between the SS and SE regions, the fight in the North is between the NE and the NC. If Allah wills it, may the NC finally produce a president and help end this marginalization of being the "forgotten region."

So, please don't confuse me or the NC for particularly supporting Bello himself, we merely want justice and he is speaking our language.

Articulate and sound!

But if any region should lay claim to the presidency, it is the SE because it is nobody’s fault that Buhari wasted northern opportunity by allowing his govt to be hijacked like you put it.

But due to obvious sentiments, the SE understands and might likely settle for the VP position. Just hoping Wike doesn’t scuttle that sha.

Meanwhile, as it presently stands, APC cannot field a northerner in 2023 or that would be its end. Because the SW will not vote for it (in protest), neither will the SE or SS vote for it. So APC has no choice but to come down south.

helinues:
Are your people polishing Tinubu's integrity?

Two can play the game remember

Great!

Since you know that two can play the game, stop asking us to change our tactics.

Focus on the tactics of your divide and let’s meet at the field.

emperor863:
So says a very pained Igbo. Whatever happens in either of the two dominant parties should not concern you because you will never rule this country. No for the next 200 years.

Your #endsars nonsense failed, any other plan to destroy the south west will also fail. Awon oloriburuku.

That you think #EndSars was Igbos agenda to destroy Lagos shows your level of cognitive abilities and it would be foolhardy trying to engage you.

oyatz:
Honestly, Dr Ogbonaya Onu, whom I have always admired from the time that he was the Chairman of the National Governors Association the precursor of NGF in 1992 should join the presidential race.

We need as many people as possible to participate in the race because it will make the national discussions/debates more robust and there may even be neutralization of negative forces.

The excuse that someone can't win is immaterial.

Exactly! There’s nobody that can’t win election if the party decide to work for him.

And I don’t see anything that would work against Onu.

NaijirianKing:
The problem with many supporters of that "man from Lagos" is that he is seeking to reap when it is not yet his time.

The SW has already gotten the presidency and VP positions respectively. The SW also currently holds considerable sway in the current administration and one can even say the SW is receiving the lion share of the infrastructural benefits.

The North under this high-jacked administration is suffering. Last week, 63 people were abducted in Kaduna and another 56 in Katsina, and 24 people abducted in Sokoto, the North is suffering because this administration was high-jacked by SW elements looking to divert all the resources to the south leaving the North in the condition we see today.

Essentially, this has turned into the administration which solely benefits the south, mainly the SW, leaving the North to be suffering most under a "Northern" president. Enough is enough....

Accordingly, the SW has had more than any other region in terms of being in the seat of power or close to power. We need to implement zoning, and the only zones yet to see the presidency are the NC and the NE.

Both of these regions are some of the worst hit in terms of neglect and this needs to be corrected in 2023. Preferably, and for equity sake, the NC should produce the presidency as it is yet to produce a president during this dispensation of democracy, instead the NC is constantly given party chairmen, when what is needed is the presidency.

We are quietly waiting for the primaries to be over, if the NC or NE doesn't emerge with the party ticket of APC, then PDP is always an option for the North, however the only problem with PDP is that they are leaning towards NE instead of rightfully allowing justice and the NC to produce the president.

he who comes for equity, must come with clean hands.

Eloquent!

But could you possibly be supporting Yahaya Bello because all your permutations tend to point towards him?

NewsForYou:
Your problem is not even candidate. It’s who is going to vote the candidate? Is it the north you babe cursed and abused, that you have called every derogatory names even the ones that are not in the dictionary? Or the Ijaws you insult everyday? Is it the Yoruba that you have turned to your number one enemy for no just reason?
You don’t have the number on your own and you have refused to build alliance.
That’s how much damages your ego has done and still doing to you. You need to change your approach. I know someone is still going to attack me then later ask for my vote.
Everybody will just sit at home if both party zone their ticket to East.

Your sit at home won’t still stop an Igbo man presiding over your affairs after the elections are over.

helinues:
Is Atiku also better than Obi? Abi Obi has been ordained to only vye for the VP position?

Why are you people not promoting someone from your region the way SW and North are promoting theirs?

If we have not been promoting Obi, the why are you guys so fixated with destroying his integrity?

And besides, in the game of power play, strategies are deployed.

So what’s your business if we find the vp position more strategic for now?

He’s a fool.

Whenever I see or hear Uba, I see the stupidity of those clamouring for direct Primaries.

They claim Direct Primaries would take power out of godfathers and hand it to the people, yet Uba was able to hijack the entire process and emerged candidate against the wish of the people and even party stakeholders.

This is what fools want us to start wasting billions of taxpayers money on only to still be manipulated.

The courts have spoken. Uba was never a candidate in the Anambra Election and his case at the Tribunal should be struck out with immediate effect.

drlateef:
Were you not in Nigeria? Bring out the statistics during his regime. How many Yorubas were in his regime? What project did he complete in Yorubaland?

Who constructed Benin-Ore road?

Who started Lagos-Ibadan rail line and Lagos-Ibadan expressway?

Mulikat Akande was nominated to be speaker of the House of Representatives, was it not your Tinubu that worked against her?

helinues:


Alaye, refuse the urge to shalaye. Atiku have been you guys choice.

Have you ever voted for your self before in any presidential election.. Even Ojukwu lose woefully

At least that refutes your claim of us playing ethnic politics and we don’t just support any idiot because he’s Igbo unlike you people that would support a mad man so long as he’s Omoluabi.

We differentiate these things and assign everyone there role.

Ojukwu led us through the war; we thanked him and held him in high esteem but that does not mean we will suspend reason whenever Ojukwu is involved.

You would think we are supporting Nnamdi Kanu but let him overstep his bound and you see the cult follower ship he’s enjoy vanish with the speed of light.

We don’t support nonsense just because he’s Igbo.

If anything, Atiku is better than OUK and Okorocha.

Won’t be surprised to see Almajiris cheering him up even though they keep getting slaughtered in droves everyday.

Pathetic north!

drlateef:
Look, you have no conscience to say that, do you? When Jonathan had his turn they embezzled the whole money buying bras and wrist watches. The igbos were the cheerleaders of Jonathan at the that time. They marginalised the Yorubas and we did not say anything. After that you now have the guts to come out and tell me it’s their turn. What did they do with power under Jonathan? Did they help igboland? The answer is no. So even if they give them power now, they will never use it to better the lives of their people. Tinubu is not such a person. He developed Lagos and he was not selfish. You can accuse him of anything but there’s no proof. He is working hard while other igbo people are sleeping. No food for lazy man. This is his turn. Full stop.

How did Jonathan marginalize Yorubas?

oyatz:
2023: Vote Ogbonaya Onu for president.

Lol! Oyatz my man.

You know you like looking for my trouble

seunmsg:
Who doesn't know that Atiku is your choice? You actually think anybody is deceived by the Uzor Kalu noise? Own your Atiku with your chest and stop disguising.

My choice is that presidency should rotate to the southeast in 2023, for equity, justice and fairness.

But if a certain greedy man with a certain big eye with a certain inordinate ambition, thinks that Igbos do not deserve what is due to them, then let the north continue.

And if Atiku causes you and paymaster so much pain then I would gladly help him do more of that.

Sannisege:
Thats not your business. Go to your PDP and leave APC alone.

Igbos have as much stake in APC just like you think Yoruba does.

Ogbonnaya Onu, Chris Ngige, Rochas Okorocha, etc. these people were there from the very formative stage of APC.

And whatever right Tinubu or any Yoruba thinks he has to the APC presidential ticket, these Igbo men do too.

You can’t wish them off. So focus on your rotten product that you are trying to market.