₦airaland Forum

Welcome, Guest: Register • Login • With Google • Trending • Recent • New

Stats: 3,345,289 members, 8,516,569 topics. Date: Tuesday, 10 November 2026 at 09:37 PM

Toggle theme

Petra1's Posts

Nairaland Forum › Petra1's Profile › Petra1's Posts

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ... 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 (of 147 pages)

Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 4:19pm On Dec 31, 2017
BluntBoy:
Did Hezekiah ask Isaiah what to do? No, he didn't.
He argued his case with God aright. Thats the widom of God
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 4:16pm On Dec 31, 2017
BluntBoy:
Sule is a false prophet. Hope you know that?
wrong
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 2:41pm On Dec 31, 2017
BluntBoy:
You are the one calling God a liar, if not, you will take to pieces this verse:

If the prophet speaks in the LORD's name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the LORD did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:22)

That is enough to tell you that prophesies are absolute and when they seem to fail, they only fail from a human perspective.
I agree that there are prophecies that may not be changed . Also There are prophecies that may be influenced . If you believe a prophecy didn't get fulfilled let the prophet himself explain because you're not there to know what happened behind the scene.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 2:37pm On Dec 31, 2017
BluntBoy:
If prophesies are not absolute, then, explain why David's child died in spite of his fasting and praying?
He ought to have asked the prophet what to do . He would have received guidance .


Look at these two verses below

Luke 11:10
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

James 4:3
Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.


The two verses may sound contradictory . What will happen if one person argue from one scripture against the other man who holds the other scripture . When it come to spiritual matters we should not be quick to judge but rather ask question .

Isreal lost the battle with Moab despite prophecy . It became a mockery against isreal .

God told Moses he would bring the people out of Egypt into the land of promise. But it didn't come to pass . Moses didn't bring them into the promise land .
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Meaning Of Church? by petra1(m): 2:16pm On Dec 31, 2017
ifenes:
The church is you. Your body is the church of God, meaning your body houses your soul and your more expanded self.
Wrong.

The church is a people the church is a gathering. one person can never be the church. the church is also the place where God is worshiped
Christianity Etc › Re: This Kind Of LIE In My Church Should Stop by petra1(m): 2:06pm On Dec 31, 2017
CrescentMoon:
There is a song that has been sung repeatedly during thanksgiving in my church; it's a pure lie, and must stop. The song goes thus:

We that ought to give thanks to God know ourselves.
.. . we that have never been put to shame and will never experience shame...

My question is, 'Is there a Christian that has never or will never experience shame in my church?'

What we should give thanks for is the fact that we survive the shame.
a humble and spiritual man can't be put to shame. the song is on point
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Pastors Criticized For Their Riches And Not Christians in General? by petra1(m): 2:03pm On Dec 31, 2017
DavidJohnDavid:
Why are pastors criticized for their riches and not christians?

Aren't both pastors and christians followers of Jesus Christ?

Since when is it a crime to be rich whether you are a pastor or christian or muslim or white or black or tall or short?
pastor that are rich are blessed of God. the put principles of the bible to work and it works for them also. God supply you financially if you have vision.either you're a pastor or member. pastors are hard workers
Christianity Etc › Re: Deleted by petra1(m): 1:59pm On Dec 31, 2017
damosky12:
All Christians must read this.


Daddy Freeze and his ignorant illogicality concerning the local church..
In his video interview on Linda Ikeji TV, the above mentioned personality took a swipe at the local church when he mentioned that folks shouldn't give to the church because God doesn't dwell in temples and he quoted Acts 7:48, 'Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,'.
He stated giving shouldn't be made to the church and especially men who preside there in.
This betrays his ignorance of what the church is.Much more this is gross and crass error
The word 'church' is from the Greek word 'ekklesia' which means 'a congregation of called out ones'.
The basis of this congregation is faith in the gospel of Jesus. Thus, by identification, the church is called the body of Christ (Ephesians 1:23, 1 Corinthians 12:12-28).
Furthermore there’s is a who the church is ,believers in Christ .
And for emphasis, there’s a where .
My dear brother Daddy Freeze further opines ,The where isn’t important ,by calling folks listening to his “ online services “ via YouTube ,instagram etc as more important than “ buildings “ etc ,which he contemptuously calls church gatherings
For starters church has a where,a gathering.
Acts 2:1 KJV
[1] And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
This had definite leadership .
Acts 2:41-42 KJV
[41] Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. [42] And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
‘This wasn’t virtual but literal .
This vital function of the church is too conspicuous in the book of acts not to be noticed .
Also in the epistles
1 Corinthians 5:4 KJV
[4] In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Gather together ,this is literal .
This was all over the epistles
The House of God is both the believer and our gathering together
1 Timothy 3:15 KJV
[15] But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
This is obviously gatherings .
All Epistles are letters written to local churches ,ie churches in specific locations or leaders or personalities within them .
To attempt to sustain a campaign against gatherings physically and promote an on online revolution is heretic .
This attempt by Daddy Freeze is bound to make a ship wreck of many and should be opposed very well and doctrinally so
1 Timothy 1:19-20 KJV
[19] Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:
[20] Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
The church is where the Lordship of Jesus Christ is exercised.
Let's see some scriptures on how the church is organized.
Ephesians 4:8-11, 'Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachersEphesians 4:12-13 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: '.
Thus, we have leadership in the body with oversight in view (particularly the pastor-teacher).
Let's see their responsibilities. 1 Timothy 5:17-18, 'Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer [is] worthy of his reward.
They are to RULE WELL. This implies oversight via doctrine.
Hence, within the church, the Lord has given certain men responsibility for the oversight of the body.
Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that [is] unprofitable for you.
So then, how does giving work in the church and should those that have oversight be given to?
The answers to these questions are the crux of this write-up.
Let's see both doctrine and practice from the scriptures. Romans 15:26, 'For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.'
The poor saints! Not merely the poor.
2 Corinthians 8:1-3, 'Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia; How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality. For to [their] power, I bear record, yea, and beyond [their] power [they were] willing of themselves;'.
Their poverty didn't preclude them from giving.
Galatians 6:10, 'As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all [men], especially unto them who are of the household of faith.' 1 Timothy 6:18, 'That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;'.
We see this practised in the book of Acts; Acts 2:44-45, 'And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all [men], as every man had need.
Acts 4:34-35, 'Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, And laid [them] down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.'
Such givings were received by the apostles..this deals a technical knockout to our brother's assertion.
His submission is an error
Also his campaign to distribute same in the name of scriptures .
This was done orderly ,the church leadership was responsible for this
Daddy Freeze doesn’t qualify here
How about giving to ministers?
1 Corinthians 9:7-14 Who goeth a warfare any time at his own charges? who planteth a vineyard, and eateth not of the fruit thereof? or who feedeth a flock, and eateth not of the milk of the flock? Say I these things as a man? or saith not the law the same also? For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? Or saith he [it] altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, [this] is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope. If we have sown unto you spiritual things, [is it] a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things? If others be partakers of [this] power over you, [are] not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ. Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live [of the things] of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.'
We see here that it's the right of ministers to be materially supported.
Galatians 6:6, 'Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.' Yet another injunction on material support for ministers. We should note that the basis of this support is their work, not their financial situation.
Apostle Paul worked and supported others materially yet received support from brethren (Philippians 4:11-19).
Thus , we see copious evidence in the epistles and in the book of Acts concerning giving to the church congregation and giving to ministers.
This is a clear fact
A definite poison in our dear brothers submissions depicts a fellow who wants to “ speak his mind “ rather than enlighten and renew it ( Romans 12:2,Ephesians 4:23,Ephesians 1:17),and season his speech and be slow to speak (Ephesians 5:3-4,James1:19)
These are traits of one who peter says are unruly and unstable
2 Peter 3:16 KJV
[16] As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Using scriptures with such unlearned mind is damaging .
He would only succeed at holding some immature captivated with oratory ,but will damage their faith ,with such contempt for the local church .
This is why he should kindly find a local church which doesn’t pay tithes at least but yet teaches the Gospel, wholesomely ,his further attempt at speaking with tongues was so infantile and ridiculous ,he needs help !
Hope he listens and hope his fans and hailers would be sincere with him .
nice more christians are opening up
.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 1:54pm On Dec 31, 2017
there are prophecies of judgement and there are prophecies of blessing. each one is handled differently.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 1:52pm On Dec 31, 2017
BluntBoy:
When asked why his election prophesies failed, Suleman claimed that people involved called and he gave them prayer points. Where is the parallel between this and the prophesies of Jonah and Isaiah?
the parallel is simple . prophecies are not absolute. man has a part to bring about changes.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 1:49pm On Dec 31, 2017
BluntBoy:
I didn't. It is in the Bible.

If the prophet speaks in the LORD's name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the LORD did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:22)
You're on a fence of double standard. I've told you ,prophecy is not absolute . there is human part to prophecy . the fulfilment . the verses i gave to you shows that there are things to do to fastract on hinder prophecy. Did God not prophesy on isreal did they believe? paul told timothy to meditate on the prophecy he received so that his result will manifest. there is a man part.
Christianity Etc › Re: Anybody Attending "5 Nights Of Glory" Is A Very Big Fool by petra1(m): 1:37pm On Dec 31, 2017
Condom4Dick:
.

I'm writing to tell you all, that anybody that still attends 5 nights of Glory, Shiloh and other religious vanities till date is actually a big fool.
Mr condom you don't have to insult people on their belief. those who attend are not complaining you're the one who need help. and what you're criticising is your way out of your poverty

We have to look inwards, identify our problems,
give you life to christ
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Living Faith Church Funds Her Private Jet By Leke Beecroft by petra1(m): 1:24pm On Dec 31, 2017
HeyCorleone:
The OP is a Living Faith slave.. Seen several of his post.

Any sane mind would know the reason why these MOGs have Private Jets is because it satisfies their personal ego. Nothing more. All that travelling about is just bull crap. Jesus never owned any means of transport yet he travelled from region to region. The one time he was personal was on a borrowed donkey. For the rest he hitched a ride on his disciples boats.

Why's your pastor even flying round the world?! Can't he just sit one place? Or is his anointing too much that he must go distribute it?? Do you see the Archbishop of Canterbury or Pope of Vatican flying round the world now and then organising crusades and Whatnots?? Na. That's why they have priests. The priests are capable of providing for the spiritual needs of their congregation.


The Roman Catholic Church should be a yardstick for all y'all. The Pope, who's also a head of state still flies commercial. But these men of God in Nigeria with their inflated ego can't stand sharing a plane with lesser individuals.
you're rather a slave of poverty. private jet is just a vehicle for those who need it and can afford. what is the difference between private jet and private car?if you criticise private jet and you buy private car you're a hypocrite. you should use taxi all your life.
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Living Faith Church Funds Her Private Jet By Leke Beecroft by petra1(m): 1:20pm On Dec 31, 2017
Statsocial:
By Leke Beecroft

THIS ARTICLE HOW NECESSARY AND COST EFFECTIVE IS OWNERSHIP OF JETS BY MEGA CHURCHES?


#1. The Efficiency Factor:

First of all, how efficient are the commercial services of the Nigerian aviation system? This answer is an obvious NO and has been so through the years. Is there anyone reading this in Nigeria, who is a regular air traveller and whose flight has never been delayed or who has never experienced some form of disappointment? In 2011, Oyedepo visited 27 countries for missionary purposes. In a particular week, I monitored his movement from sunday evening when he left Lagos for Kenya till friday evening when he arrived back in Lagos, Nigeria for a night ministration. He was in Zambia, Kenya, South Africa, Tanzania and Botswana (if my memory serves me right) in a spate of five days and was back to minister at the night session in Nigeria. This would have been absolutely impossible using commercial aviation means in Africa. No wonder Pastor Matthew Ashimolowo pointed out that as close as Liberia or Togo and other West African countries were to Nigeria, it was easier to get a commercial flight to London than to our neighbours here in Africa.

#2. The Ignorance, busy-body and Poverty Mentality Factor:

Secondly, when missionary establishments of the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s flew in white missionaries on jets or helicopters, they were welcomed by the Nigerian locals and it was an acceptable sight. Why? They were whites. One of the greatest issues with missionary owned jets in Africa is the poverty mentality. Today, several billionaires in Nigeria are celebrated because they own jets. Young musicians and artistes are also celebrated for wearing large "bling blings" and "Chopping their money" on private jets...but when indigenously established missionary organizations, whose only mission is to save your soul are discovered to own these same aircraft to facilitate easy air trips, every busybody wants to have a say and criticize, sometimes very insultive....including those who have either never stepped foot in a church, never dropped a dime in offerings to God or have never even embraced the commandments of the Bible.

As much as criticism of missionary owned jets may be "religiously and politically" correct, I make bold to say they are scripturally incorrect. We are called covenant children of Abraham; what does the Bible say about Father Abraham? Genesis 13:2 "And Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold." Genesis 24:1 "And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age: and the Lord had blessed Abraham in all things." I am also very glad that after the death of Jesus Christ on the cross, it took a wealthy man to come get his body and put him in a befitting tomb. Also before his death when Judas was grumbling about the Alabaster Box that should have been given to the poor, the Bible had this to say "Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him, Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor? This he said, not that he CARED for the poor; but because he was a THIEF, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein." John 12;4-6.

If the argument is really about giving to the poor, why not also ask all the oil moguls in the country, all businessmen, musicians and all other owners to sell their jets and give to the poor? Obviously the emphasis isn't about the poor but anger and envy that wealth seems to be moving to the church...unfortunately, it hasn't even started. The Bible is the constitution of the christian. if what is in the Bible hurts your feelings, I render no apologies....let God be true and every man be a liar. Romans 3:4.

#3. Travel Frequency, Time, Administrative and Global Reach Factor:

For record purposes, as at the last time I checked and I believe I am current, the christian organizations who presently own aircraft in Nigeria are the Redeemed Christian Church of God which has branches in over 190 countries, the Living Faith Church Worldwide with branches in over 60 countries and 'Shiloh' online presence in over 170 countries, Christ Embassy with 'Rhapsody' presence in over 180 countries and branches in at least 4 continents as well as the immediate past CAN President, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor led Word of Life Bible Church. Pastor Ayo began to broadcast to the world before any of the afore mentioned pastors, back in 1987.

I ask another question; is it true that the leaders of some of these organizations travel regularly around the world? Do you have any idea what the itinerary of the Adeboyes, Oyedepos, Oritsejafors and Oyakhilomes entail?


Again it was Pastor Adeboye that said “there are things you need. When you have to oversee churches in 160 countries, you can’t do that on a bicycle,” Bishop Mike Okonkwo in an interview seemed to be in disagreement with some pastors listed here, the press excitedly tried to instigate him the more by asking about the ownership of jets. He explained to them however how he had once travelled to the Central African Republic for a programme but had to wait idly for almost a week for a return flight to Nigeria through Cameroon...... Any serious man or organization has respect for their time. The Church is one of such. Pastor Sam Adeyemi said once that all you need to grow old on time is to be a regular commercial flier on long trips.

#4. The Maintenance Cost Factor:

"If you are rich and desire to become poor quickly, own an aircraft." Pastor Enoch A Adeboye.

[b]Very many people do not understand what it takes to maintain an aircraft, especially in a country like Nigeria where aviation is controlled almost purely at the Federal level. How many people remember the issues with payment of parking fees for the Nigerian Presidential jet in 2009/10 when President Yar' Adua was flown to Saudi Arabia? Large sums of money (probably in millions of dollars) were paid for the aircraft which sat idly at the Riyadh King Khalid International Airport. One organization which used to charter aircraft frequently for movement to her crusade venues around the globe once paid about #75,000,000 (Seventy Five Million naira) annually for parking her aircraft at Bristow helicopters in Lagos.

Those who usually tout the example of the Pope who charters and flies Alitalia do not even realise that his accumulated flight expenses along with his entourage in just 30 flights will buy a nice jet. Let me break it down. Is it better to buy a car or charter a cab so expensive that you would have spent the cost of that car in just 30 drops?[/b]

My question again is, is it better to park your aircraft idly at the airport and pay these heavy parking sums to the government from church offerings not forgetting servicing, repairs and maintenance costs or lease them to aviation companies which in turn return profit at no cost to the church? Rev Gabriel Oduyemi bought a jet for church use. I do not need to tell the story of what happened to that aircraft but remember that it was the same aircraft that Omotola Jolade Ekeinde's pilot husband bought as 'scrap". Lest I forget, the average Captain in the aviation industry earns $10,000 (N3,600,000 or N3.6m) monthly. For two captains, that will be $20,000 (N7.2m) monthly or $240,000 (N86.2m) annually, not forgetting travel and landing allowances, hotel bills for the pilots etc. Young pilots need to accumulate hours and hours of flight so they opt for commercial planes instead of private jets who do not fly that regularly. This means that owning a private jet leaves you with almost no option than to hire experienced or veteran captains. This of course means you pay well for it. Luke 16:8 "And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation WISER THAN THE CHILDREN OF LIGHT".


Fortunately, the children of light are wiser now. They lease out their jets when not in use and avoid incurring unnecesary and exorbitant costs while the aircraft remains active even when not in use. Winners’ Chapel stretched this point. Among the first generation of missionary aircraft owners, she started leasing out her aircraft to EMS Speedpost once she realised what the costs of maintenance entailed and with due notice, she would use same jet for her missionary trips eventually an oil company also leased the jet and had to pay compensation after an accident. The church decided to buy another aircraft and this time built a hangar at the airport in Lagos. The hangar has space for 6 jets at a time. Now she does not rely on "church income" to maintain the hangar but runs it as a separate concern, funding itself. This is the line Church jet owners should be towing. I will quickly add at this point that for large organizations, it is cheaper to own aircraft than to keep paying for commercial air tickets or for charter services. If leasing a missionary aircraft will save costs and preserve the life of that aircraft for longer use, then that is simply the way to go


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1244611439016058&id=444807728996437
Awesome write up. critics usually attack what they don't know . thanks for sharing
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 12:55pm On Dec 31, 2017
BluntBoy:
Jonah's prophesy did not change. God's intention was known to Jonah. T

In Jonah's case,  he already knew that the prophesy God was giving him would fail.
i thought it does not fail according to you. you can excuse theirs
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Lilth?? by petra1(m): 8:00am On Dec 31, 2017
Jesse01:
am not a Christian.
What’s holding you back
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Think Smoking Before Going To Church Is A Sin ? by petra1(m): 7:53am On Dec 31, 2017
Addictedtodrugs:
Hello guys ..
I really want you guys to please help me answer this ,” Do you guys think it’s a sin for me to smoke and drink codeine before going to church every Sunday morning .

P.s: The first thing I do every morning is to smoke , if I miss any morning without smoking , that whole day will be so miserable for me
You are demonized . A spirit of a diction and spirit of selfdestruction needs to be cast out. I'm serous

Also smoking is not good for your health and others. Its a form of suicide


1Co 3:16 — 1Co 3:17
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 7:48am On Dec 31, 2017
BluntBoy:
Yes, they were fulfilled.

Hopefully, we will continue this topic today (Sunday).

I was drained yesterday and had no strength to type.
So hezekiah life wasn't extended. He didn't recover from his sickness . I am waiting
Christianity Etc › Re: Mary The Mother Of Jesus Had No Other Children. A Biblical Perspective by petra1(m): 7:46am On Dec 31, 2017
Ubenedictus:
why do you assume the Bible must have recorded every thing to the minutest details?
God is not daft. He knows the difference between cousin and brother and sister.
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 10:51pm On Dec 30, 2017
BluntBoy:
I repeat, prophesies are meant to be fulfilled.
You didn't respond to the verses i quoted. were they fulfilled
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Lilth?? by petra1(m): 10:26pm On Dec 30, 2017
kendrace:
Why can't I find her in the bible
Isaiah 34:14
The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island,
and the satyr shall cry to his fellow;
the screech owl also shall rest there,
and find for herself a place of rest.


The screech owl is liyliyth in Hebrew

h3917. לִילִית lîylîyṯ; from 3915; a night spectre: — screech owl.
AV (1) - screech owl 1;
"Lilith", name of a female goddess known as a night demon who haunts the desolate places of Edommight be a nocturnal animal that inhabits desolate places
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m):
BluntBoy:
Do you study your Bible at all? Bro, prophesies are not warnings that you can pray against. Prophesies are meant to be fulfilled, no matter how long it takes. That is one sure way to know a true prophet from a false one.

If the prophet speaks in the LORD's name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the LORD did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:22)
Wrong!

HEZEKIAH
Isaiah told hezekiah he would die in his sickness but it didn't happen .

2 Kings 20:1
In those days was Hezekiah sick unto death. And the prophet Isaiah the son of Amoz came to him, and said unto him, Thus saith the Lord, Set thine house in order; for thou shalt die, and not live
.

But when prayers were offered .God changed the situation

2 Kings 20:5
Turn again, and tell Hezekiah the captain of my people, Thus saith the Lord, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will heal thee: on the third day thou shalt go up unto the house of the Lord


Why was Jonah angry at God . He prophesied as God told him that a city will perish , but it didn't happen
Because the man prayed and God spared him ..

JOHAH AND NINEVEH
Jonah 3:4
And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown
.

Did Nineveh get overthrown ?

Jonah 3:10 - 4:1
And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry
.

Some prophecy can be changed by intercession or prayer or desperate act of the people .

KING OF MOAB

Elisha prophesied isreal will defeat Moab .

2 Kings 3:18
And this is but a light thing in the sight of the Lord: he will deliver the Moabites also into your hand
.

But it didn't happen .isreal lost the battle . Because the King offered his son as sacrifice.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Lilth?? by petra1(m): 6:33pm On Dec 30, 2017
Lillyth I said a female demon
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 6:27pm On Dec 30, 2017
BluntBoy:
Bro, when a man gives 50 prophesies and only about 3 seemed to come to pass, that should tell you that the man was only just lucky with the 3 so-called prophesies that came to pass.

If only 3 out of say 50 prophesies came to pass, what excuse would you give for the 47 that failedhuh

That should tell you that these so-called prophets are merely making predictions and not prophesies.
Wrong!
Prophevies are not absolute. Many times they call the prophet and he tells them what to do to avert a predicted disaster. He said Buhari would be bereaved ,people didn't know it was Buhari son , they thought Buhari would die. If they had asked . A prayer would have averted the bike accident the president son had
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Prophecy (predicting The Future)??? by petra1(m): 8:10pm On Dec 29, 2017
Goshen360:
Only within the context of old testament you'll see prohesy to be fortelling the future. Prophesy in the new testament doesn't foretell like these Nigerian pastors.
Prediction is part of prophecy. a prophet is a seer
Christianity Etc › Re: Mary The Mother Of Jesus Had No Other Children. A Biblical Perspective by petra1(m): 3:35pm On Dec 29, 2017
MosesAlex:
Hi Petra,
Let me start by saying I love that name Petra meaning rock for obvious reasons (St Peter).

Gal 1:19 refers to the second apostle James (the less or Son of Alpheus, because it fits the description). He also the brother of Jude (Jude 1:1 and Luke 6:16)
Mk 15:40 & John 19:25 Says the mother of John the less is a sister to Mary Mother of Jesus Mother. Is it not obvious that James is the brother of the Lord, a cousin is also a brother
Matthew 13:55-56
55 Is not this the carpenter’s Son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?
56 And do not all His sisters live here among us? Where then did this Man get all this?


The Bible is clear enough . Let’s not complicate it. Jesus had brothers and sisters born by mary. She was only a Virgin before christ was born
Christianity Etc › Re: Birth Of Jesus: Did Mary Have Other Children Aside From Jesus Christ? by petra1(m): 3:34pm On Dec 29, 2017
Matthew 13:55-56
55 Is not this the carpenter’s Son? Is not His mother called Mary? And are not His brothers James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?
56 And do not all His sisters live here among us? Where then did this Man get all this?


The Bible is clear enough . Let’s not complicate it. Jesus had brothers and sisters born by mary. She was only a Virgin before christ was born
Christianity Etc › Re: Mary The Mother Of Jesus Had No Other Children. A Biblical Perspective by petra1(m): 11:15am On Dec 29, 2017
Dikemaria:
Those were his kinsmen comprising cousins, in addition to close and distant relatives...
Wrong . The Bible would have said so . Why are cousins so important for the first time in the Bible? Isn't that funny ?

And which is exactly the same way most languages refer to their relatives
Not at all.

Acts 12:1
Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church
And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.
.

Are you saying James was also coursing of john ?

The decipher James and the apostle James are different .

James was the biological brother of Jesus

Galatians 1:19 (AMPC)
But I did not see any of the other apostles (the special messengers of Christ) except James the brother of our Lord
.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Expect Erudite Responses To These Not Rants. by petra1(m): 11:04am On Dec 29, 2017
Newnas:
We live in a world where 2 + 2 = 5, Just as 1 + 1 +1 = 1

If you are confused, read this:

Who is god?
Jesus

Is Jesus the son of Mary?
Yes

Who created Mary?
God.

Who is God?
Jesus

Jesus is the begotten son.
Yes

Who is his father?
God.

Who is God?
Jesus.

Jesus is a servant of God?
Yes

Who is God?
Jesus.

Jesus died on the cross?
Yes

Who resurrected him?
God.

Who is God?
Jesus

Jesus is a messenger?
Yes

Who sent him?
God.

Who is God?
Jesus.

Did Jesus worship while on earth? Yes

Whom did he worship?
God.

Who is God?
Jesus.

Did God have a beginning?
No....

Then who was born on 25 DEC?Jesus.

Who is God?
Jesus.

Where's God?
In heaven

How many are there in heaven?Only one God.

Where's Jesus?
He is sitted on the right hand of his father.

Who is God?
Jesus.

Then how many are they in heaven?
Only one God

Then how many seats?
One

Where's Jesus?
Seated next to God.

Then how are they seated?
On one chair

Its only understood by those with the holy spirit.

Who is God?
Jesus.

Hmm! what a confusion. So beautiful to be a Muslim, Allah (SWT) have mercy on us all and grant us His straight path for us not to go astray.Salam alaykum to you all.(HASIMIYU)
God and Jesus are two entities . God is father Jesus was son . But God was in Jesus as much as God is in me . Moses Was God to pharaoh.

Exodus 7:1
And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists & Theists: If Aliens Actually Exist, How Would It Affect Your Beliefs? by petra1(m): 10:57am On Dec 29, 2017
Fekwa:
I am of the opinion that aliens from other solar systems and dimensions exist and I also believe that they've interacted with humans throughout history, especially in ancient times. I also believe that a lot of our blurry understanding of our origin and our evolution as humans can be made clearer in light of unraveling the truth about the interference of alien life on our planet.

The above is just my opinion which is grounded on a lot of evidence, and it has shaped my world view and altered a lot of my beliefs about the true nature of reality and I'm prepared to engage in a civil debate with anyone who has opposing views, but besides this, I really want to know: If you had proof that alien life actually exists and has had contact with humans on this planet, how would it affect or influence your beliefs? As an atheist would it change your views about the non existence of a God, and as a theist would it shake your religious beliefs?
Alien ? That's too far . Demons and exorcism should be enough. If they are seeking truth
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 10:52am On Dec 29, 2017
sarrki:
Fake prophecy

El rufai is alive

He said he will die what about that ?
He gave condition . El Rufai didn't implement the law afterward did he?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Daddy Freeze Won't Tell The Sheeples About Church Giving by petra1(m): 12:30pm On Dec 28, 2017
OkCornel:
If you still insist on the validity of tithing in this dispensation, kindly use the scriptures to explain to us what God instructed should be tithed.

I AM STILL LOOKING FOR WHERE GOD INSTRUCTED TITHES TO BE PAID MONETARILY.

Even historical evidence sufficiently points to the fact that agro produce and livestock were the subject matter being tithed....and not generic income.
Was it agro produce Abraham gave ?

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ... 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 (of 147 pages)