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Christianity Etc › Re: Why I’m Scared Of Marrying A Pastor by petra1(m): 3:58am On Dec 09, 2017
Topgainer:
No enlightened person honestly desires that even to be a pastor is not an easy work. It is a call to duty worse than being a man of the Force. You virtually live your life for others. In fact, this service is not only required of Pastors but for all Christians. All the things you listed in your blog are still within the purview of a true Christian without the appendage, Pastor. In the case of a Pastor it is a bit more.
So you know this ?


Most ladies are happy to be attached to a yahoo pastor and become the principal partner of a successful Church Business Center, the little headache is nothing compared to the enjoyment. The pastor is running choir girls and the Mama is running band boys, Mama extorts the women group, Papa does the rest including destroying homes. The revenue and investments are shared, as for domestic works both at home and at the Business complex, thoroughly brainwashed slaves are always at the beck and call of the Master. Most times they are not paid any allowances ironically Papa takes his 'salary' upfront.
Very bad that a christian writes this about the body of christ she belongs to .
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome's 54th Costume Birthday Party (Photos) by petra1(m): 3:47am On Dec 09, 2017
oruma19:
Where do they copy these things from? . . Why copy worldly tinz?
Aso Ebi no bi costume ?

Matthew 22:12 (KJV)
And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.


Halloween in the church for birthday celebration.
Firstly it wasn’t Halloween , secondly it was not in church and thirdly How you celebrate your birthday is your personal affair . Don’t you cut birthday cake? . WHERE TOU GET IT FROM ? We excuse ourselves and condemn others . That’s hypo. . .
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome's 54th Costume Birthday Party (Photos) by petra1(m): 3:35am On Dec 09, 2017
donnie:
Your moniker says it all.... You're not a happy person.
DONIEEE... grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome's 54th Costume Birthday Party (Photos) by petra1(m): 3:33am On Dec 09, 2017
Stylz69:
In the first photo , I see two con men! Benny Hinn the biggest con man ever liveth.
Wrong Answer ! The biggest was christ !

John 7:12 (TLB)
12 There was a lot of discussion about him among the crowds. Some said, "He's a wonderful man," while others said, "No, he's duping the public."
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Oyakhilome's 54th Costume Birthday Party (Photos) by petra1(m): 3:23am On Dec 09, 2017
GloriaNinja:
THEY ARE ALL DRESSED WEIRDLY
Do you know what costume party means ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithes And Offerings Are Eternal Principles by petra1(op): 3:16am On Dec 09, 2017
[quote author=nicemuyoo post=63108760]The Spirit behind tithing and offering Is to help the less previlage [/quote ]

Wrong ! Tithe and offering is to God in worship .whixh is used for welfare of Men of God or or full time ministers

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the lord

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.



especially of the house hold of faith. Not church organisation. Since God's temple is in believers you ought to direct the giving to such individuals so that non is lacking amongst you. This was what happened in early church. It's all about people not clergy or a registered church organisation
There are different kinds of giving in the Bible
Tithes , offering , alms, etc . You can give alms to the poor but tithe and offering is to God .
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Practiced Jewish Religion by petra1(m): 7:34pm On Dec 07, 2017
raphieMontella:
Paul, a man who neither met Christ nor knew Christ. his works are no truer than the Apocrypha.l

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1 Corinthians 15:5-8 (NLT)
5 He was seen by Peter and then by the Twelve. 6 After that, he was seen by more than 500 of his followers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have died. 7 Then he was seen by James and later by all the apostles. 8 Last of all, as though I had been born at the wrong time, I also saw him.


It’s obvious you have not Read the book of acts . Hence you don’t know who Paul is Ki
Christianity Etc › Re: Dont criticize MOGs security Is Common Sense by petra1(op): 7:25pm On Dec 07, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
^^^Furthermore, how do you explain the fact that a popular MOG tells his members that wearing a certain apron would save them from all their security issues but turns around and hires heavily armed men for himself. If the aprons are good enough for his members, why not him?
Gombs, Petra1
Such aprons are to dispel certain witchcraft and satanic attacks .
Christianity Etc › Re: Trump A Type Of Cyrus Or Antichrist? by petra1(op): 7:21pm On Dec 07, 2017
correctguy101:
lols,, they're much
Andy How are they identified
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Practiced Jewish Religion by petra1(m): 6:54pm On Dec 07, 2017
raphieMontella:
not I, you should... to actually prove you're a true follower of Christ.
Jewish tradition is mostly of men not of christ .

Mark 7:13 (KJV)
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.


If you believe in christ , kindly get yourself acquainted. With the epistles . Jesus gave Paul his doctrine.


Galatians 1:11-12 (KJV)
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Practiced Jewish Religion by petra1(m): 6:11pm On Dec 07, 2017
raphieMontella:
so you serve Paul now?
You serve the Jewish tradition now?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Practiced Jewish Religion by petra1(m): 1:18pm On Dec 07, 2017
nonhuman:
jusus prayed like Jew jedaism
dress like Jew
by covering his head while praying why are chistains not covering their had why praying

1 Corinthians 11:7 (KJV)
For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
Christianity Etc › Re: God Says, "You Shall Not Kill," But He Kills. Why Does He Contradict Himself? by petra1(m): 1:11pm On Dec 07, 2017
chemystery:
So you are comparing and using the killing of Israeli slaves of the Egyptians with the killing of unborn babies of free men minding their business and worshipping their own god?
Killing is wrong whether done by a god himself, or by man through god, or by man himself.

If you use your bible or god to justify any killing, you are no different from islamic terrorists killing in the name of Allah
When you see God ask him .God is just. If God hadn’t done it there will be no isreal . There will be no Salvation.? You see the outward only God see the heart and the future . Besides why breaking your head over incidence of over 4,000 years ago. He even destroyed entire earth just to preserve a pure race . He knows more than your limited mind
Christianity Etc › Re: My Humble Reply To Mr Freeze’s Beliefs On Tithes And Other Issues He Raised (1) by petra1(m): 10:37am On Dec 07, 2017
connectikut89:
What are you even saying? In Matthew 15:12-13, Jesus called the Pharisees "...The blind leaders of the blind". Did that make Him any less Spirit-filled? Oga say something else abeg.




Don't even begin to compare the exemplary life of Apostle Paul to your Pastors (2 Thess. 3:5-16). There are no parallels whatsoever. Don't be silly to equate welfare package to tithe. Lmao @ welfare package. That's a new one. The Apostles never collected tithes. If you say they did, show me a verse, otherwise just shut up about tithes in Christianity and focus on your Judaism.




You have failed at your attempt to prove that the audience changed. Most of what you wrote here is actually gibberish.
There are laws in interpreting prophecyhuh? I did not see that coming. Which verse of the Bible taught you that? Did you read that in your Pastor's publication? So when Daniel was interpreting the prophecy of Jeremiah concerning Jerusalem and Babylon, what were the laws of prophesy he applied? The way you people just coin things into this faith sha, y'all could write a new Bible.
All the prophets were clear to their audience in their prophesies. The prophecies of old were easily discernible by Biblical scholars of the time. Daniel 9:2 is a pretty good example of how he discerned Jeremiah's prophecy of Jeremiah 25:11,12 by studying the Scripture consistently. God was clear through Jeremiah because He gave a duration (70 years). Daniel did not need to apply your law of interpretation of prophecy Mr man! Whew!




Oh slow down! You're missing the point. I'm talking about the audience here not the message, Mr Interpreter of prophecies! Of course a prophecy could speak of different people and events but would still be directed to a specific audience until it tells us otherwise. God is not an author of confusion.
Let me analyse this using Malachi 2. First He says "O you priests..." and begins to rebuke them. Then in verse 11, He mentions Judah and again continues to admonish the priests from verse 13. Does that mean the audience - in this case, the priests - to whom He was talking to earlier, changed in that moment?

If you want to understand the book of Malachi, read its historical context which revolves around Ezra and Nehemiah. Don't comman be forming Interpreter of prophecies that have been fulfilled already.
He said it clearly "O you priests!", He did not later say "O you people of Israel!"
Gibberish ! Are priests farmers. ?
Christianity Etc › Re: God Says, "You Shall Not Kill," But He Kills. Why Does He Contradict Himself? by petra1(m): 10:29am On Dec 07, 2017
chemystery:
Give me biblical account of Jewish male children killed as well as their unborn babies
It was demonic influence which cause pharaoh to decree against Gods people

Exodus 1:15-16 (KJV)
15 And the king of Egypt spake to the Hebrew midwives, of which the name of the one was Shiphrah, and the name of the other Puah: 16 And he said, When ye do the office of a midwife to the Hebrew women, and see them upon the stools; if it be a son, then ye shall kill him: but if it be a daughter, then she shall live.
Christianity Etc › Re: God Says, "You Shall Not Kill," But He Kills. Why Does He Contradict Himself? by petra1(m):
chemystery:
Including their babies and unborn babies?
Yes as I explained earlier . Since the fallen angels invaded the earth . Wickedness abound . The nations attacked isreal . Sometimes even when isreal appeal to just pass through their land and vowed to pay for even water they drink they would still attack Israel . Because of the demons in them The devils have been polluting the human race . The process of possession was through the idol demonic worship . That’s why God says not to marry them . Demond’s transfer like virus. God had to quarantine isreal . But now jesus says we can cast out devils in his name . So no need dwelling on the old again

If this is justice to you
it was justice because there was wickedness . Do you know how many Jewish male children they killled ? Despite this God still appealed to pharaoh to key his people go over 12 times .

why do you see it wrong when Muslims kill those who doesn't believe in Allah and his prophet Mohammed?
Things have changed . Mohamed had encounter with fallen angels so he was deceived to believe he was talking with God’s angel. And they kill innocent peace loving people
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 3:50am On Dec 07, 2017
rejosom:
Go to AkwaIbom and tell them that dog is an unclean animal. Let's see how clean you will return.

If it is unclean, then selling it is unclean, earning from it is unclean. The Israelites were asked to eat their tithe....and not to touch unclean animals. How are they supposed to eat the tithe on unclean animal. What lie did your GO tell you bout that?
Simply be humble to say You don’t know or at least say let me find out . Instead of quoting Akwa Ibom tradition you ought to be quoting the scripture . It’s God that called those animals unclean . And if you’re a farmer of such unclean plant or animal . There is option of giving money when you sell them . Invariably money was given in tithing.
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 2:21am On Dec 07, 2017
Peacefullove:
LMAO . hahahaahahahah grin grin grin grin grin grin grin


Simple question: Who Nd who should preach the gospel ?


Eeyah,
Tell us
Christianity Etc › Re: My Humble Reply To Mr Freeze’s Beliefs On Tithes And Other Issues He Raised (1) by petra1(m):
connectikut89:
I have emboldened it incase you're too blind to see
You don’t have to be insultive . Are you born again . Kindly show some restrain and spiritual fruit

2 Timothy 2:24
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,


it that even the gatekeepers collected out of the tithes.

Nehemiah 13:5 NKJV - "...the grain offerings, ..., the tithes of grain, the new wine and oil, which were commanded to be given to the Levites and singers and gatekeepers, and the offerings for the priests.
There is nothing new in the verse above . The same priciple still applies . The tithe to God is for the work of Ministry . Ministers who are full time get their welfare from there . Either it’s a pastor or staff OT gateman . Hope you’ve calmed down. Most pastors are volunteers . Except few . Most music ministers are volunteers . But some are employed . I learnt a church like COZA. Employ choiristers etc . If a pastor , instrumentalist etc Has a job . He is not put on allowance .when paul worked with his hand in Corinth , he took no welfare package . But he did took in some other cities

I insist that God is speaking only to the priests?

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1) God clearly BEGAN speaking to the priests in verse 1:6,
“... To you priests who despise My name ... "

(2) He emphatically continued speaking to the priests in 2:1,
“And now, O priests, this commandment is for you."

(3) He must still be speaking to them about their altars in 2:13,
"And this is the second thing you do: You cover the altar of the Lord with tears, With weeping and crying; So He does not regard the offering anymore, Nor receive it with goodwill from your hands."

(4) He is clearly still speaking to them from 2:17 to 3:4, then

(5) By deduction, God is still specifically addressing the priests in 3:8!

I ask, When did God STOP speaking to the priests? The burden of proof falls on you and all the others who say that God has suddenly changed His audience from the priests to the people without at least saying "And this commandment is for you the people of Israel!"

If you wanna understand the book of Malachi, you need to read the books that contain it's historical context not just speculating.
In understanding prophecy you must understand Prophet can go forward and back . There are laws in interpreting prophecy . A Prophet can be talking of one person in a verse and another in the next verse . If you don’t understand context of prophecy you will think it’s still talking about the same thing or same person . Isaiah could be prophesying of himself In a verse and talking about the messiah in the next . The context of Malachi 3 from verse 7 is very clear . It takes effort to miss it
Christianity Etc › Re: TITHING: How Today's Christian Got It Wrong by petra1(m): 12:44am On Dec 07, 2017
Allta:
Indulge me please....

So now there are different kinds of tithes...surely this is not totally accurate

10% as defined in OT is pretty clear to me, we should not try to use semantics to justify our understanding, or lack thereof a subject matter

Deut 14 is pretty clear on how to execute ‘tithing’,
pls reread and come back to comment

Did our pastors tell us tithe is supposed to be an annual event? Not monthly? Did they mention how it should be observed the third year vs every other years? Deut 14: v22 vs v28
SACRED TITHE TO GOD

Leviticus 27:30.
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the Lord's: it is holy unto the Lord
.

The sacred tithe to God was strictly to be managed by the priests for the sanctueary work and welfare for the levites and priests

Numbers 18:21-25
21 And, behold, I have given the Levites all the tithes in Israel for an inheritance in return for their service which they serve, the [menial] service of the Tent of Meeting.


God told the people to use another 10% for the poor every 3 years and another 10% for a feast .these have nothing to do with the sacred tithe to God .
THE 10% FOR FEAST
Deuteronomy 14:22-23
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year. And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.


10% FOR THE POOR EVERY 3 YEARS

Deuteronomy 14:28-29
At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 11:56pm On Dec 06, 2017
rejosom:
You give in God's house yes...where is God's house again? Remind me.

By the way try harder .... It is give in God's house not give money to God. Different things bro...different things.
Psalms 22:25 (KJV)
25 My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation:
I will pay my vows before them that fear him.


Mark 12:41 (KJV)
41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much
.
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 11:50pm On Dec 06, 2017
Peacefullove:
grin grin na tonight u go stop using that verse wrongly .

and did it say those who are pastors should live of the gospel , Or THOSE who preach the gospel , who and who should preach the gospel petra1 ??
As expected Banters come when Scriptural Evidence stands indisputable like rock
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 11:37pm On Dec 06, 2017
Peacefullove:
you should show me where he collects tithe and destroy my claim ?
Clever escape there

wrong logic

The verse said those who partake at the altar , Not every Jew . that aspect is clear
The church of the Old Testament is a parallel .

They were called out of Egypt and separated from other nation (type of the world)

Exodus 19:6 (KJV)
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. . .

1 Peter 2:9 (KJV)
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation. .


Every Jew were preachers and Yet God set among them dedicated ministers . Same for the church .

1 Corinthians 12:28 (KJV)
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues
.
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 11:25pm On Dec 06, 2017
rejosom:
Show me where you worship God with money and how you do it apart from giving it to someone in need. Go ahead.
You give it in God’s house . And waka commot either you’re rich or poor you give .

Mark 12:41 (KJV)
41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.


you give to God , you give to the poor , you give to your Neighbour .
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 11:17pm On Dec 06, 2017
Peacefullove:
I wonder why the person who penned that still didn't collect tithe.
Prove it

:
Every Christian preach the gospel , yes or no ? thus every Christians should then collect tithe grin grin
and live off the gospel , Agreed ?
cc : petra1
Were every Jew not priests and holy in a sense ?. Yet there were devoted tribe concentrated
Paul was talking about full time ministers .
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 11:07pm On Dec 06, 2017
rejosom:
Yes... Man. Worship that's what you offer to God.
Money...you offer to man. Don't mix it up.
Who’s teaching you such ? You worship God with offering . Only God receives offering . It’s alms you give the poor . If you have contrary opinion show us from scripture .
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 11:00pm On Dec 06, 2017
Peacefullove:
Nobody should pay tithe, we are all members of Christ body . Members don't pay to member
Felixomor talk
Neither should we pray or give offering na . Abi?
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 10:55pm On Dec 06, 2017
Peacefullove:
They are not coerced, it was voluntary . and its not even called tithe
It’s called what ?

do u also fast twice a week ?
That’s not the point . The point is that tithe is given with cash from income

Chery picking, as at then, the levitical priesthood was still in full force , Are there levite priests today ?
Yes , by principle . Levites represents full time ministers in God’s house

1 Corinthians 9:13-14
Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.


Ask yourself what Melchizedek a Levite ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 10:49pm On Dec 06, 2017
rejosom:
Why did you say period.
Sorry ma
You don't want to learn?
Sorry ma

Well since you brought tithe up....tithe was a tax system but never in coins.
Let me ask you a question : How does a dog seller or unclean animal seller give tithe ?
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 10:40pm On Dec 06, 2017
Jesusgirl92:
Hope you don't give offerings in cash going by your logic.
Kindly ask him . That’s even if he gives grin

Mark 12:41 (KJV)
41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much

Luke 18:12 (MSG)
12 I fast twice a week and tithe on all my income.'
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Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 10:35pm On Dec 06, 2017
rejosom:
Cash or kind... We are going somewhere.
Jesus said give to ceasar the money because it had Caesar's head and so was Caesar's. Which money had God's head?
It’s about tax vs giving To God
Tithe and offering is given to God tax is given to Caesar period
Christianity Etc › Re: Tithe Against Poverty Challenge By Daddy Freeze by petra1(m): 10:29pm On Dec 06, 2017
rejosom:
Money huh!
Which money was Jesus talking about then? The one that they drew God on? Don't read with the brain of your pastor.
Giving to God could either be cash or kind . So what do you think jesus was talking about

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