LagosInter: His was ponzi. Forex was to deceive ppl
Not Ponzi. They were trading . I wanted to invest once but they didn't take my money. I was told to hold on. They didn't want to collect money they can't trade. That's why they open many outlets and get more traders before they collect money or allow more investors. Because if you collect and don't trade that will be ponzi as you said
Kobojunkie: Jesus Christ fulfilled the Old Covenant but He He the New Covenant. His teachings and examples shattered in many ways the Old Covenant traditions of His time, hence the reason why He was despised by the teachers of the Law.
But more importantly, where did Jesus Christ tell you to ignore the Truths He revealed to you before His death?
Where do you have Jesus Christ telling you that the Truth He revealed before His Death will no longer be valid Trutha after His Death?
Jesus Christ is the Truth of God, so it follows that the Spirit of Truth is the Spirit of Jesus Christ Himself, does it not? If we follow this, we know that Truth cannot contradict itself in anyway or form or else it is nothing but a lie. So, I state this to ask why Jesus Christ would , through the Spirit of Truth contradict in anyway or form the Truths revealed by Jesus Christ before His death?
I for example his earthly ministry was primarily for the jews .He called the Gentiles DOGS. He healed a jewish woman on the ground that she is the daughter of Abraham.
He refused to heal some others because they were not jews .
Mat 15:22 — Mat 15:24 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel
So if you must sticky follow Jesus early ministry. You have to be Jewish oriented. We the Gentiles are not part of the package.
But after his death . He sent the Holy spirit to us . And raised apostle Paul with a message for the Gentiles
I didn't say to ignore the teachings of Christ. But the messge for the church is in the Epistles of the Apostles.
Acts 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
It has nothing to do with Pastor Chris nah. It's business gone bad. If he gave a billion and he had control of about 200 billion as the protesters claim. That's not what crashed the business. He's a forex trader. Thats not the only forex trader that had had issues .
The problem with forex trading sometimes are commercial banks . Sometimes they collaborate with police to clamp down on rival busineses especially when their costumers begin to withdraw moneys to go and invest in forex houses . The agencies may come out for you over one permit or one license or the other . If you don't move fast they can freeze your account. Most times when bank freezes your account you can't trade again . And once investors hear there is Police case there would be panic . Most times it's difficult to bounce back . Even if the matter is resolved.
Kobojunkie: Some are applicable and some are not? How do you decide what is applicable and what is not?
They are principles, in what sense?
So what Jesus Christ lived and taught His disciples, even His own examples, was not the Christian life at all? Where the disciples not called Christian because they were examples of Jesus Christ?
Remember he lived under the old testament. The new testament has not dully taken effect until his death. He has not brought the full doctrine of the new testament yet.
He couldn't communicate to them because they could not receive the new testament teaching . They were not yet born again and have not yet received the holy spirit.
Jn 16:12 — Jn 16:13 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:
So talking about the new testament. It's starts from the Acts of apostles but majorly in the epistles because these were teachings received from christ through the Holy spirit about what the church should be . How they should live
Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Eph 3:4 — Eph 3:5 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
Gal 1:11 — Gal 1:12 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
You must not do birthday nah. If you don't have the money to.cook for the people coming just cancel the celebration or work within your budget. If you want it big it's your faith and your faith is your responsibility not the church . If any one give to support the party appreciate them. And for those who didn't you should not bother to know their name
Kobojunkie: So, we are to abandon the very teachings that Jesus Christ equipped His disciples with from before His death - the very same teachings which they were instructed by Jesus Christ to go into the world and teach then?
Some are applicable because they are principles and others may not be because the new testament has not started until the death.of christ.
Heb 9:16 — Heb 9:17 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
To understand the Christian life you must major on the epistles .
Daddy Freeze is a zealous baby Christian. He's exited with desire to know. But instead of putting his head down to study. He wants to teach new revelations. By the time you confront him with Bible evidence. He has to options. 1. To repent or condem the bible or condemn your understanding of the bible or he condens your translation of the Bible
Kobojunkie: Again .... What does any of this to do with the Gospel of the Kingdom of God or any of Jesus Christ's actual teachings(Truth)? Did Jesus Christ send His disciples out to teach people whether to kiss or not kiss in relationships?
Where in His Gospel teachings which we are called to trust and obey is this information locate?
Did Jesus Christ lie when He declared that our marriages(relationships) are of this world and not of His Kingdom?
1 Corinthians 7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: is it good for a man not to touch a woman
Kobojunkie: Again... Did Jesus Christ send His disciples out to teach people whether to kiss or not kiss in relationships?
Where in His Gospel teachings which we are called to trust and obey is this information locate?
Did Jesus Christ lie when He declared that our marriages(relationships) are of this world and not of His Kingdom?
To understand Christian life . Read more of the epistles The Word of God cover every aspect of life.
1 Corinthians 7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: is it good for a man not to touch a woman
Gal 1:11 — Gal 1:12 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ..
An elderly pastor was arrested on the streets of London for making "homophobic comments" and telling passers-by that same-sex couples were against "God’s created order".
Pastor John Sherwood and Pastor Peter Simpson were preaching outside Uxbridge tube station in West London on Friday, April 23, when police officers were called on them because of a statement Sherwood, 71, made while "expounding the final verses of Genesis 1".
He told passers-by that families must be "headed by a father and a mother", and that "the distinction within mankind of just two genders, male and female, made in the image of God, constitutes the essence of God’s created order".
Police soon arrived at the scene, saying they have received complaints about "homophobic comments" made by the pastor that were causing "distress" to members of the public.
Officers were caught on video asking him to stop preaching against LGBT+ people, which he refused to do
Sherwood was then told he was under arrest and was asked to come down from his step stool.
The married father-of-two was placed in handcuffs and taken away in a police car before being questioned about what he would do if his children were gay.
That can't happen under Donald Trump .. bro Image123 are you hearing . .
Dtruthspeaker: I know that there would be 1 or 2 Righteous Pastors but they are largely unknown, unrecognised, rejected, despised and hated thus, they will be considered non-existent, therefore, you are defending a group of people who have been caught on camera and are as guilty as politicians!
There may few bad eggs as in every institution. 99 % of pastors are volunteers who have their jobs . They rather use their monies to attend to church and brethren needs. Take Redeemed for example. Most of the pastors a Lay volunteers. And those who are full time pastors how much is their salary.
Maybe you post it codedly or use coded.language. don't call it by name . The conspiracy is strong . They take down anything contrary to their plan. Researches of experts are all deleted
jesusjnr1: I feel immense pity for you, because you seem shamelessly hell-bent on making matters that already terrible worse for yourself, trying to explain something that's self-explanatory.
Whether they were frontsliden or backsliden, that doesn't make your blunder and heresy any less severe, because the fact remains that if they inherited the righteousness of Christ or had the same righteousness He had as you claim, nothing, I repeat, nothing would be able to deprive them of their salvation!
So next time try and remind yourself of what the Bible says according to you, before you start spilling such Antichrist ldeas.
That saying of Christ has obviously humbled you but instead of admitting your error, you're going to make another worse. Quit attempting to justify your unjustifiable blunders, and save yourself further embarrassment please. Thanks.
jesusjnr1: You should show me where I said you said so, otherwise more shame on you!
I said you believed that and proved it with your previous comments. If you couldn't still see it in spite of that, then you should blame your blindness to the Truth not me.
Instead of trying to school someone with your spiritual ignorance, try and humbly sit down at the feet of Jesus and learn, because you've proven by your Antichrist and heretics comments and beliefs, that you lack true knowledge.
That's the reason you could say that someone who confesses the Lordship of Christ was a Christian, also that a Christian inherited the righteousness of Christ, but Jesus would say that confessing His Lordship meant nothing without works of righteousness. Hence would send people you claim to be Christians by your definition, who inherited the righteousness of Christ according to you, to hell, because they were workers of iniquity, to prove that your such ideas and beliefs according to your definition of Christians, were Antichrist and heresies of the highest order.
The more you try to justify your false beliefs, the deeper you sink into the pit you dug for yourself.
If you can't yet see by now how baseless your idea that Christians inherited the righteousness of Christ is, despite how Jesus Words has totally disproved them, yours may be a case of spiritual blindness edging towards the land of no return.
Also in addition. Your foundational misunderstanding of Mat 7 is a problem
Matthew 7:21 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
The above makes reference to a backsliden minister who felt his track record will cover for him. The bible makes it clear about the destiny of such.
Heb 6:4 — Heb 6:6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
I don't know why you're so sin conscious. It's mostly those who live in sin that are always talking about sin to justify their conscience. That doesn't mean any child of God can't make mistakes. Or that they are not yet Christians until they are perfect 24/7
ARE YOU PERFECT
The best way make people live right is to teach the fruit of the spirit and fruit of righteousness.
So going by your your description of who a Christian is, these workers of iniquity Jesus talked about in the passage below were Christians because they confessed the Lordship of Jesus.
Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV)
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Yet Jesus told them to depart from Him, so shame on you!
That's not all, you also said this
So also going by your definition of who a Christian is, your doctrine of inherited righteousness is proven beyond any reasonable doubt to be antichrist and heretic, because no one who inherited Christ's righteousness or has the same righteousness as Him would be cast out by Him!
So double shame on you!
Here is my parting shot to show you how far your beliefs are from Christ:
Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV)
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
So calling Jesus, confessing the Lordship of Jesus without doing God's Will counts for nothing according to the Words of Jesus. So triple shame on you.
But you can continue to walk in your ignorance of the Truth as your fellow Christians.
In all this your rambling above you still have not quoted your false accusation against me
someone who believes that Christian workers of iniquity could inherit Christ' righteousness and still be condemned for their evil works
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Where did I make the statement.
Secondly you don't understand Christianity. If you couldn't decently the difference between JEHOVAH and ALLAH how can you differentiate the Christian from a natural man.
Your definition of Christianity already disqualify you from being a Christian.
Now let me school you a little.
Morality is not what make a man a Christian. Every religion teaches a for of morality . I'm sure you see Muslim as Christians too as long as they are nice and religious.
A Christian isna man who has received and accepted salvation through christ. And made Jesus Lord and saviour . Period .
The moral lifestyle is only a fruit of the word of God within. That's a growth process. The more you know the word , the more you do the word .
1Pe 2:1 — 1Pe 2:2 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
Kobojunkiee: Holiness/Perfection(sinlesssness) comes before Righteousness and this is true in both the Old and New Covenants. You cannot obtain God's Rigteousness without first becoming Holy and Holy through submission and obedience to the commandments of God in either case.
Jesus Christ died so that through His death, those formerly sinners(lost sheep of israel) are made holy(His Holiness), and then righteous(His Righteousness) and then dead(His death) to the Old Covenant Law, but reborn in the New Covenant Law.
Kobojunkiee: Christ's Righteousness even as spoken of by Paul IS NOT God's Righteousness. You may not know it now but the next time you read through even Paul's epistles, pay attention to that.
I am afraid you are also wrong about His death.His death was the completion of what He told you He came to do, which is to fulfill the Old Covenant on the behalf of those of the Old Covenant(the Lost sheep of Israel) who would switch to the New Covenant.
The new testament was only effected after his death.
Heb 9:16 — Heb 9:17 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
Philippians 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
Kobojunkiee: Christ's Righteousness , even as discussed by Paul, IS NOT God's Righteousness.
Just leave matter bros
You are expected to seek the Kingdom of God and then God's righteousness. This is not done after with even if you are of those who were imparted Jesus Christ's Righteousness, which is doubt since you are not of the blood of Jacob - were not previously bound to the Old Covenant Law of Moses.
That was before his death. Now the righteousness made Available as gift wirhout the law
Rom 3:21 — Rom 3:22 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: