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TODAY EPISODE IS ON


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34wI5FJEMSs

There is difference between vaccination and immunization.
What is being given for covid 19 doesn't not give you immunity. You still have to wear their "Mask

TheEnygma:
I know that brainwashed religious zombies will flood this thread.... Especially that righteousness guy.

Why are you using enigma name . Where is he sef

The redeemed after the Tribulation will not.be part of the church during the millenia

Revelation 18:23 they deceived the world through "phamacy" ..

Pastor chris is live now

Pastor chris is live


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfMFz3cwAw8

That's wisdom for the wise.
If you must inject something into this my blood ,You will have to catch me first !

frankson1:
You should get a better understanding of the 'KINGDOM' you're referring to.

Kindly enlighten us about it

DanceVille:
They roasted this guy alive. Some people can be just wicked because of envy.


God will punish all the culprits involved.

It's an accident period!!

bingbagbo:
...I am still waiting

Well Let me still Answer you even though my earlier post is self explanatory.

God gave the dominion of the earth to Adam .

Genesis 1:28
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Psalms 115:16
The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's:
but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

As I said earlier man's fall gave Satan the dominion to be custodian of Adamic authority. And prince of the world

John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

2 Corinthians 4:4
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. . . .

Luke 4:6
And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it

How was it delivered. Because Adam submitted himself to the devil. And he became his master.

Romans 6:16
Are you not conscious that you are the servants of him to whom you give yourselves to do his desire? if to sin, the end being death, or if to do the desire of God, the end being righteousness.

bingbagbo:
...I am still waiting

I am waiting for you too.
.

bingbagbo:
Kindly show us where in scriptures Adam gave the kingdoms to Satan...I am waiting

How did Satan become the God of this world then?
Are the scripture above not illustrative enough?

bingbagbo:
Daniel 2:37-41
[37]You, O king, are a king of kings. For the God of heaven has given you a kingdom, power, strength, and glory;
[38] and wherever the children of men dwell, or the beasts of the field and the birds of the heaven, He has given them into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all—you are this head of gold.
[39]But after you shall arise another kingdom inferior to yours; then another, a third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
[40]And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron, inasmuch as iron breaks in pieces and shatters everything; and like iron that crushes, that kingdom will break in pieces and crush all the others.
[41]Whereas you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; yet the strength of the iron shall be in it, just as you saw the iron mixed with ceramic clay.

DID YOU NOTICE FROM THE ABOVE VERSES THAT, GOD HAS GIVEN THE RULERSHIP OF THIS EARTH TO MAN? THE KINGDOMS OF THIS EARTH BELONG TO MAN.

THOSE WHO CLAIM SATAN RULES THE EARTH, SHOW US WHERE THAT AUTHORITY WAS GIVEN SATAN? THE DEVIL IS A LIAR

See Satan's lies below

Luke 4:5-8
[5]Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
[6]And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.
[7]Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.”
[8]And Jesus answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”

JUST AS THE DEVIL DECEIVED EVE IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN, HE TRIED DECEIVING THE LORD JESUS, BUT HE FAILED. THE DEVIL IS A LIAR

John 8:44

You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

IN SPITE OF THE BOLDED, MANY STILL BELIEVE SATAN SPOKE THE TRUTH WHEN HE CLAIMED HE OWNED THE KINGDOMS OF THE WORLD

Yes he spoke the truth. God gave the earth to man and Adam delivered it to satan . . He is called the "god of this world " by Paul and the "prince of this world" by Jesus

2 Corinthians 4:4
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Kobojunkiee:
Yeah right! You believe anything that comes out of the mouths of your pastors is why. You can cast a mermaid out of a mermaid... how about casting sasquatch out of sasquatch?

Cam arm robbers be selling guns to the army ? You don't know the power of the church.

Luke 10:19
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

They lie a lot. One will say I gave power to Oyedepo, I gave power to Adeboye, etc. Is that Not lie and setup?

Starz825.

Starz825:
I Even met one that converted to a Christian, told a group of us how rich she was back in the water kingdom and how a lot of popular pastors comes to them for powers and fame and how Her assignment was all about putting already rich but covetous(wanting more money) church men into financial bondage...

They really do exit!!

Don't mind them . Pastors cast them out of people. How can higher power go to lesser power for power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZgCixE6NlQ

Image123:
You skipped a lot here, i pray you have learnt though. i already said "When you have members giving you money, find out the source of their wealth, it is biblical to. You cannot tell me that you do not know or it's not your business the kind of business that your members do. Yet you know how much they give and even give them awards for being "partners". A decent person, family, church, organisation questions unusual financial transactions. You can ask Ananias and Sapphira"
This is a good way to 'scan your members offerings. At least you know them, you know their house, you have fellowship with them, and you sometimes know who and what they gave. Do your diligence to know how and why they are giving. i think it's still in your same church they said someone gave family property not belonging to him. All these things bring reproach to the name of God.
It doesn't stop your teaching, and it is YOUR business as a pastor/shepherd. that is part of why God put you there. Ordinary godless NL would say "Don't promote shady investments like betting and HYIP", so why do you find it out of your scope. You want and take the goodies but don't take the responsibility. Are you not an accomplice?




This is not an issue of a christian. You compared giving in your church to prostitutes and bribe takers and you gave no room for scrutiny or "scanning". Instead, you talked about uber drivers. You're now trying to change the narrative instead of accepting your mistake, learning from it, and moving on.

I taya . Ok you win. Your church is better than mine. Even though you still have not told us how you scan source of income in your better church

You've still have

Image123:
Thieves don't give me money. When you have members giving you money, find out the source of their wealth, it is biblical to. You cannot tell me that you do not know or it's not your business the kind of business that your members do. Yet you know how much they give and even give them awards for being "partners". A decent person, family, church, organisation questions unusual financial transactions. You can ask Ananias and Sapphira



When did decency and discernment become insults? What about you that insulted the Bible and insulted that woman calling her a prostitute?



Even if, okay oh. Is the man a pastor or worker in your church? Was the church unaware that he was involved in ponzi?



He was recognised by your pastor himself. So you give recognition to thousands without due diligence? Even an incompetent government should not openly give this excuse. i'm guessing Jesus' many parables also apply primarily to agro business. Are you a shepherd or not?






i do not judge your pastor. You were the one that started justifying rubbish, that's why i stepped in.



Bad illustration. You blanket them all as bribe takers.



An uber driver is collecting money from everyone for services rendered. You cannot compare him to a pastor or a church. A passenger can get transport fare from anywhere, not necessarily his profession. Your dad, friend, neighbour etc can give you transport fare for a particular purpose. This is very different from consistently being in the family and fellowship as a "partner", evangelising and making monthly, weekly, quarterly donations and in huge awardable sums. You have no excuse, repent.



You're contradictory here. The church can reject it, but it is not the responsiblity?



And it is your pastors responsibility to give them awards without discernment. What do you use discernment for again, football scores? Ask Ananias and Sapphira. Ask Simon in Acts 8

You're yet to tell us how you scan the source of your members offering . If you say no member give money from questionable source in your church then you're very dishonest. Even Jesus had Judas . There are things beyond your control. You just have to teach the word to build to maturity.

And lastly if the MBA guy gave money and was recognized with an award . What is anybody business.

Was he not making money in his business. If he had any wrong doing let the law handle that.

You're contradictory here. The church can reject it, but it is not the responsiblity?

It was based on this premise below. I told you it's an illustration.

1Co 10:27 — 1Co 10:28
-- If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake. But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof:

Was Paul contradictory? I a sinner announced he want to come and donate and you know he does questionable business. It's wisdom to reject it because it's identification. He want to use the church as launchpad . Like the story of the girl with spirit of donation trying to pally with Paul yet unsaved. It's different from a Christian who gave to God

Before people are being sacked for not taking vaccine but now people are being sacked for taking the vaccine


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Image123:
How dare you Jo, how dare you? For filthy lucre's sake, you call a woman a prostitute and compare a contrite, saved and forgiven woman to the thieves that give you money monthly.

What about the thieves that give you money.
You're still yet to tell us your church system of scanning money

Have some decency if you have no discernment

Rora bu mi o. Gods word does not require "bibu"

it appears you want to discuss the other MBA man. So, you are saying he's a sinner or what?

I didn't says he's a sinner. He's just a business man. But since you're tagging him a sinner That's why I said even if. . . It's not church place to investigate people dealing . Church can only deal with matter brought before the church.

But i'm reading that he's a known member of your church, i think i read pastor, and definitely saw him being awarded by your pastor. Here's what the Bible says.

Thousands of people are recognized by the church for their participation. Either in giving or soulwinning . He's just one among many

Proverbs 27:23 Be thou diligent to know the state of thy flocks, and look well to thy herds.

Firstly That scripture is primarily for agro business. Secondly if it's used pemisively for pastoral work nothing spoil. As I said , the guy is one among many honored From around the world. He is a member in Portharcourt . Pastor chris honored all those who's name.were called .

Your pastor should be man enough to question questionable donations, questionable members, questionable pastors and questionable actions. He's at least questioning government and world leaders on Covid, he should be sensitive and sensible enough to question his own members and pastors

Forex is a legitimate business. Nothing to question. you can only guide them Pastor Chris has done that many times . He taught against Ponzi business and he told those who do forex not to take more than they can trade. if not it may turn to Ponzi. You assume and judge Pastor Chris from distance. Why not click on YouTube and hear him personally on his stands

BTW, not all police officers are corrupt or live on bribe, that's quite low coming from you. So you blanket all the police officers in your church that way, smh

Your church nko? I just Gave an illustration. It doesn't have to be

Now, back to my question. Does an uber driver have the same level of Holy Spirit and discernment that your pastor should have? Does an uber driver take donations in millions and billions and give awards to the donors/partners without question?

If you were an uber driver and you realize the ladies you carry are prostitute. Will you tell them not to pay.

It's like eating food offer to idols.. if someone is a known 419. And he wants to come and make donation . The church can reject it. Because its identification.
But people giving to God is their personal responsibility not the Pastor.

There is no discernment required for offering. It's God that has the responsibility to determine what is acceptable and blessed and what is not blessed .

Image123:
So you compare your pastor to an uber driver?
Does an uber driver have the same level of Holy Spirit and discernment that your pastor should have? Does an uber driver take donations in millions and billions and give awards to the donors/partners without question?

The alabaster oil came from prostitution. Yet poured at Jesus feet

Do you question people in your church. Kindly tell us how you do discernment over givings. The police men who give in church should be turned back probably the money came from bribe ?

Secondly was the money given to the Pastor? .. If you give for Bible distribution. Or inner city motherless helpd through the church. The money goes to the purpose its meant for

Thirdly the Gentle man is a business man . And gave from his business
Everybody is free to donate in church. If he had issues with his partners in business. It's their interna issue .

Kobojunkie:
Second, did Jesus Christ declare anywhere in His teachings that fornication is a sin?

Matthew 19:9
And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

You didmt answer my question

Kobojunkie:
So which of Paul's letters is addressed only for gentiles?

There is no such thing as "Christian" moral teaching... Jesus Christ warned His disciples against such nonsense when He declared that He alone is Teacher over them all. Since,He ,the Teacher, never gave us any such moral teachings, no man was given such authority to cobble up such commandments of men , in His name.

Paul's supposed teachings on sex are not found as part of the teachings of Jesus Christ as so they are only of God but of Paul.

So teaching against fornication is not of God

Kobojunkie:
Most all of Paul's letters were written to and for Jewish Christians and not to a gentile audience. Hence the reason why He spoke in many places of the Old Law, a law which those of us gentiles, were never bound to by God and so should never have been bothered or concerned with in the first place.

Ther were Gentiles not jews .
I can prove it to you if you want to see scriptures

So teachings about the touching of women, kissing and hugging, are not of Him but of men.

It's Part of Christian moral teaching .
Paul was also questions on sex and marriages and other issues. He taught God's counsel on them

MrPresident1:
No more slavery or slave trade, no one is coming to put chains on anyone's necks anymore, no one is coming to whip, chastise or rapé you and your loved ones anymore, satan is defeated and doomed. A wasted eternity stares satan and his dogs in the face. Anytime they peer into the abyss, the abyss stares back at them, this is where they will spend their eternity.

God has redeemed his children, the Israel of God is free. Stop expecting to be beheaded, stop living in fear, all those things are in the past, the only weapon that satan now has is ignorance and that is the fuel that provides power for your fear. Cut out the ignorance, satan is defeated. The great tribulation is over.

Rejoice in the salvation of the LORD!

You dey lagos? I need to meet you oh

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ rightly came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel and you somehow believe that should imply that some, not alll, of His teachings should not apply to the gentiles? How do you decide which of His Pre-death teachings ought to apply to you then?

The same Jesus Christ, after His death, sent ALL of His disciples into the World- obviously not just to the Jews alone - to teach the very same Gospel that He had taught to them from before His death. And it is that same Gospel that was taught to even the one you revere, Paul. So why do you reject the teachings of Jesus Christ in any way or form?

Jesus Christ fulfilled the Old Covenant but He He the New Covenant. His teachings and examples shattered in many ways the Old Covenant traditions of His time, hence the reason why He was despised by the teachers of the Law.

If the church speak of supposedly belongs to Jesus Christ shouldn't it then be founded directly on the teachings of Jesus Christ ?

Where do you have Jesus Christ telling you that the Truth He revealed before His Death will no longer be valid Trutha after His Death?

Jesus Christ is the Truth of God, so it follows that the Spirit of Truth is the Spirit of Jesus Christ Himself, does it not? If we follow this, we know that Truth cannot contradict itself in anyway or form or else it is nothing but a lie. So, I state this to ask why Jesus Christ would , through the Spirit of Truth contradict in anyway or form the Truths revealed by Jesus Christ before His death?

If you so much believe in Jesus. Why not believe in his messages through the apostlesin the epistles

coast2sahara:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L44WTDwo5a4

Pastor Chris has always taught against investing Ponzi.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul

fidet1:
He donated part of the proceeds to your church. Ole ni gbo gbo yin

You Ole too nah. All of us have gotten money one way or the other from funny sources. Even if you're an Uber driver . Do you ask your passenger where he got the money,? . You are Ole part 2

MrPresident1:
The great tribulation is not starting, it is ending. Satan has used your ignorance to keep you in a perpetual fear of what is in the past. So many people are living in the fear of a great tribulation that is coming in future that would be so horrendous. The great tribulation was horrendous, yes, but it is over. Your ignorance has been and continue to be used against you, it is now time to wake up from the delusions of a future tribulation.
The tribulation is not starting it is ending, infact it has ended.

Ha presidio

SavageResponse:
You deserve an award for stupidity and foolishness!

Thanks , sorry if your money was involved. It'd part of life. The future is greater

When I'm I getting the award?₩

SavageResponse:
My friend keep quiet!

If he was paying monthly ROI of 15% then it means he must have been making at least 20% ROI per month...if you put the 20 best forex traders in a room to trade I can guarantee you that none of them will make a consistent ROI of 20% every month in 1 year!

This thing was a Ponzi Scheme from day 1.

People make over 20% in a day . People double investment in a day not to talk about a month. The 20% a day is just for safety

afroxyz:
The guy was running a ponzi simple. You can't be trading forex and promise to pay people 15% monthly. No sensible forex trader would so that. If he was so sure why didnt he go to the bank and borrow at 22% annually.

Then you don't know forex. I have seen people double their investments in a day . A billion turned to 2 billion. Everyday is not the same any way they can lose too. It depends on how good you are and other factors .