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ezinne1212:
Thanks for the Link.

My Pleasure.

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Is there a reason to compare? The result of this comparison might be misinterpreted IMO

I would want to think you are writing from a female point of view but still i won't deny some truth attached to your post.

You better let the man at the top think for you and not the one below. No fling is worth it if it is a threat to your livelihood.

Theblessed:
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Yeah, the Militants are doing it their own way, why? Because, the people you are here supporting, created this CHAOS in our country - so as to cause confusion and get away with our money. But, who is sure you are not one of them and if not, keep supporting evil, evil will follow you!!

Please if there is anywhere in my post that i have supported evil on this thread kindly post it here. I just wonder how you think i will support such evil when i am affected as well.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/89/africa/2009/10/26/1585902/floodlight-failure-disrupts-u-17-world-cup-match-between


Floodlight Failure Disrupts U-17 World Cup Match Between Spain And USA
Two stoppages disrupted a sell-out match at the FIFA Under-17 World Cup,
Oct 26, 2009 8:59:49 PM
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The FIFA Under-17 World Cup Group E match between Spain and the USA at the Sani Abacha Stadium in Kano on Monday night was disrupted twice due to floodlight failure.

Hungarian referee Viktor Kassai was forced to first halt proceedings for about five minutes around the 52nd minute of the encounter when one of the floodlights went off. He was forced to do so again in the 65th minute when the lights at the other end of the pitch failed.

Besides these stoppages, this game, watched by an impressive crowd of 19,500 fans, produced several highlights.

Spanish defender Sergei Gomez was sent off in the second minute and just moments later the USA took the lead through leading scorer Jack McInerney.

The USA's lead did not last long though as Spain hit back in the 22nd minute through Borja and on the half hour mark, Pablo Sarabia notched the match winner for the Spaniards.

Courtesy of their 2-0 win over Malawi earlier Monday, United Arab Emirates top Group E, while Spain are second in the standings.

In Group F, Algeria lost 1-0 to Italy to complete a miserable opening round of matches for African teams at the FIFA Under-17 World Cup. Save for hosts Nigeria, who salvaged a point against Germany, Africa's four other representatives have thus far lost their opening matches at this championship.

Italy's winner was netted by Fredico Carraro in the 78th minute and Algeria, who are making their debut in this competition, must blame poor finishing for this loss as they created several chances but could not put away any of them.

South Korea lead this group based in Kaduna after their 3-1 victory over Uruguay, also on Monday.

Samm Audu, Goal.com

Eziachi:
I think that Nigerian rogue criminals and their relatives are gradually creeping into this forum, you can sense through their stupid comments. So when Gen Pinochet was arrested in London over the crime he committed in Chile during his cruel rule it was through the demonstration only in Chile?

It was Chileans abroad that made all things possible with their demonstrations here in London and with the aid of human right organizations, Pinochet finally face justice, he could face in Chile. Nigerian abroad are starting to wise up to their rogue rulers and they are careful now anytime they are in town to spend their ill-gotten cash. The same treatment awaits Babangida for killing Dele Giwa. U.K Human Right lawyers, for years had prepared case against him and waiting for his arrival and it was leaked to him. Hence since IBB left office he had never touch U.K till today.
He now makes vulture visits with his family to Monaco where he lodge most of his loot in his private jet.
In August this year the son of a governor from Niger Delta was manhandled in a broad day light in Woolwich South East London by a group of Nigeria teenage student and rob him of £4000 cash before the police arrived.  Then he thought he was in Nigeria when he boldly stated how much he had been robbed. The surprised police officers who were amazed started asking how he managed to get £4000 in cash and they put him in their car and drove away for question with many Nigerians around startled.

It will be nice if you don't accuse me falsely, because i don't support your view doesn't mean i am a criminal. No one is traveling we all here waiting for the final outcome. Is it not the same corrupt UK and US you are protesting from, You think they don't have their own personal interest in Nigeria. With all the protesting and conviction Chile is now a better country right? What works for A might not necessary work for B. You could as well condemn the Militants doing it their own way.  

oln:
pharoah pharoah,pharoah,pharoah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!how many times were u called?hope u rnt gettin on my nerves.

What have i done? I am not getting on any one's nerves really 

Hmm i think you should talk to her about your fears and if both of you can't make it work from there then it is better to break it off now. Please don't marry out of pity it is not advisable.

ezinne1212:
, well said~ and best of luck~ lol!

Thank you dear Best of luck to you too, _{Chai that luck get as he be}

ezinne1212:
Again,lol!

You won't understand until the message hits you later like a bomb, the message is coded in those post. Ha its already 1:50 AM the next day here ,the day its over for me dear.

Donpuzo:
jextoban, this is not insinuation, i undertsand you guy, ,, we are guyyyysss,

Friendship ought to be a free thing , but many of you here make it seem like a do or die affair, like you haven't got no female friends and it make the girls feel too important and wanted that they deny mare friendship requests like your's

Little wonder points to ruthless scums like 1, name withheld, which may have shown them there is more interesting and ruthless end to frienship,

I understand you guy, don't gert it twisted

I concur

ezinne1212:
You said it well , lmao!!!!!!!!!

Its funny you don't know who the fool is lol , _{its the 21st century and its all about the stick and the hole as you have said but the stick wants something extra which the hole hasn't figure out yet hence the disagreements in this issue lol}

ezinne1212:
I could see you were a ranter, but pointless ranting is a disease. I've already defined what being and independent lady is to me, go back, it's still there. Thats taken care of your first paragraph, as to the second paragraph, i need to ask, How old are you? I'd be worried if you are over 25yrs! If i see a man jump up to join your cause about controlling women, then i know that this world has really hit the pits. As far as independence is concerned, it is not a crusade, people are or are not independent beings/minds, it's not really THAT hard to grasp is it?

You are funny really if you think i am ranting, i have already said in one of my post that i know about all these stuffs and i could just be taking you ladies for a ride .

Rosabelle:
My dear did you notice when I dropped my pen (in this case, stayed off my keyboard) ?
Theres no agument anymore, but the dude wants to go on.

Thanks for dropping the pen it was an endless circle indeed but maybe after some years it might be needed to visit this thread again .

ezinne1212:
,,,, ahhh, wise lady. lol!

Sometimes people think they are wise only to realize later that they were fools

Let him be for now i think he is trying to make a decision about what has just happened.

ezinne1212:
I'm glad you feel i'hit the nail on the head', the 5 page essay would have been a drain  . I should point out that i don't think you understand the concept of 'Independent lady', because if you did, you will notice that my post does indeed reflect just that: No bullshitting, and saying it as i see it. I still stand corrected, which  Rosabelle is free to point out.  I seriously doubt she needs you to point out any 'truth' to her, I believe she's said what i did in her own terms, maybe you just misunderstood  .

Then define your independent lady we are waiting for you then you will know we are also emancipated men as well  . I have already discussed this issue with a black female friend in ST Lucia so i am waiting for your independent lady explanation. Except you will remain single i bet you your independent woman will never give you what you want because at the end of the day it is either you marry a weak man who will accept that or i will marry an unfortunate lady who will accept my African mentality. So i am waiting and lets continue from there.

I said you hit the nail on the head when you said no one brings anything significant to the table, you can carry the baby but i provide the sperm lol ( Maybe ladies now have sperm i guess). Then ask yourself if no one brings anything significant then why do we still want to control you? if you know why then you will drop your independent crusade.

chic2pimp:
This ain't about me being able too to do a better job. This is about her being useless and therefore should step down. The next time she is in the uk,I will be amongst the band of protestors too.

BTW, if you still want to know if i'll do better job,let's put it this way,I wouldn't do a worse job than what she is currently doing now.

Okay i am hoping you get there someday and we will hear your own story, She is acting on a script just like ribadu also acted on a script. Ribadu was only acting for a bigger boss hence he had a bigger portfolio. Yar-adua for now has a small portfolio but don't worry wait till the election time comes then you will see what will happen.

Kobojunkie:
That is ridiculous thinking. These are mostly Nigerians who are based on NY protesting, and showing that they are willing to stand up. Do you expect the same group to purchase tickets, board planes to come protest in Nigeria when there are over 140 million human beings down there who can do better?? YOu might want to check the meaning of the word COWARD before you throw it around so much cause it seems you have those fingers pointing the wrong way.

The burning house is in Nigeria and protesting in NY will not quench the fire so let them come back home and quench the fire or is it too much to ask of them. For a moment leave the 140 million out of it.

Rosabelle:
@Pharoh  . . . . and again about what we're bringing to the table, Im flipping the script, cos its what I asked you in the first place when you people didnt have anymore arguments and you started tot alk about paying bride price etc. I said you people always bring in the money aspect to make girls shut up and that aside from that, you'd have nothign to offer.

The man I eventually choose (if at all) will know what I have to offer. I dont owe you any explanations. So you and your friends can be waiting for a list or a 500page dosier, its not going to come from me.

You are very intelligent lady so next time stop insinuating that we men use money to water you down in any arguments. I think since no one wants to provide an answer to that question then you can clearly see that there is nothing like what this party or that party brings to the table. This unresolved issue questions your so called financial independence because despite that we still require you to perform your roles in a marriage setting. It is about your identity and values like the other poster said.  Now lets move ahead since the money aspect is not working so let me ask you what is your role in the marriage institution?

Rosabelle:
Heywoh. In fact, this thread has just been adjusted another notch. lol.
Before, I was pouring kerosine everywhere, but with this conment, you just set the house on fire proper lol. People wont sleep this night oh. All them Mr Pharoh and co will go and bring re-enforcement. NL will be upon us shortly  

@Pharoh sorry oh, but as I said, we're runnig round in circles. Ive made my point and you cant get me to think otherwise. I dont have to prove anything to you.
I maintain. A young girl should not be crucified because she chooses not to get married, or chooses to have children two years after getting married and not immediately. A woman should be allowed to breath and have the choice of making decisions that make her happy, even whilst being a wife and mother who most times has to put everyone before herself. And men should mind their business when they hear a woman say: Im not getting married until Ive seen Australia and Equador. It is the girls business and she shoudnt be bullied into thinking menopause is the reason why she should go marry anything that runs accross her path and calls itself a man.
Fullstop!

I know you are a christian and obviously the Bible did not make marriage compulsory it is just the African society. So the problem with ladies and choices is from our society but if you ladies want go on and do whatever you like no problem. It is a free world now so we can all live the way we want but think if our mothers and fathers did what you were proposing many of us will not be here on nairaland. When you get married it is not your choice to choose when to have babies because you have to consider you partner. You both have to sort those issues and when there is a logjam the African society has already presented a solution which you know  

I know you don't owe any explanation likewise i don't owe you too so you ladies should strike what a man has to offer from this issue. It is never what this party has to offer or not but the roles each should play in the marriage setting simple.  Thank God for the 21st century both parties can substitute each other roles then what do we get? Lets go down to the african soceity and pick up those lofty values embedded in our culture and enjoy this blissful marriage with all the education and intelligence we have acquired simple ladies.

Let me assure you that you ladies can stand in Kilimanjaro and shout independent lady or whatsoever we African men will never trade you for any other woman on this earth so come back home jare

ezinne1212:
lol!! no need for a 5 page essay, u missed my point, but i'll say again. All men offer women is 'fresh sperm' and all women offer men is a 'live hole'. We can all live happily ever after 'without each other', were it not for social prejudices like 'illegitimacy', and probably[b] boredom/ companionship[/b] . It's that simple, no debate needed. I'm not even going to go towards scientists, cos that eliminates one problem, and with Lesbianism becoming more 'accepted/ overlooked' that has eliminated another.

Before you get carried away with your decoding, there is nothing 'silent' about the 'point' i'm making. I doubt i would be as bold as you to call it 'truth' let alone 'fact'. In essence, when it comes down to it 'no' party  brings anything significant, or 'earth shattering' to the table (to be fair, men can no carry babies, lol!), and we all can live happily and sufficiently apart. However, it would be nice if people who actually 'understand' what the concept of marriage is about can enjoy it. Whilst those who bastardize it with unnecessary superiority, or simply cannot hack it, jump off a bridge  so that the institution can be a peaceful one for all who want to try.

Now i am getting you and i really love how you have nailed it, i did not miss you point because i said you have mentioned the silent issues in your post which i will bold for you to see now. When i said silent i meant it is hidden in your post and most ladies will just take the others overlooking it. I was only trying to check if you had any independent lady tone in your post. Thank you very much for hitting the nail on the head and i hope my loving sister will see the truth here[b] @Mrs Rosabelle[/b]

ezinne1212:
I keep wondering what exactly men bring to marriage apart from sperm. Anything else i can provide for myself sufficiently without the drama and insolence. If it weren't for illegitimacy and boredom/companionship most women wouldn't waste their time with marriage. Men couldn't care less about having bastard kids spread around and having a living hole to 'dip it in' at their convenience is an added advantage.

We know all that dear but can you answer my question what do you ladies bring as well to the table please i don't even mind if you write a 500 page essay about it bring it on. I already knew where you problem lies, you look the man as the provider of your needs and sperm provider. Well now you can provide for you needs and i pray those scientist act quickly so you can buy sperms from the clinic and have babies for yourself then i hope all your problem will be solved? Hell no because you have highlighted some silent truth in your post so i wonder where you ladies are taking this to.

[quote author=ola_two link=topic=342448.msg4805340#msg4805340 date=1256587900]FACT:-  NO MATTER HOW RICH,INDEPENDENT,BIG,FLAMBOUYANT, U NAME IT A WOMAN IS SHE CANT CONTROL A MAN IN MARRIAGE @LEAST AGAINST
HIS WISH OR WILL EXCEPT OFCOZ THOSE OF COZ THAT ARE NOT REAL MEN. [/quote]We are not traveling we are here because this ladies are missing the point we are slowly getting to the main issue. They think by achieving all that the men are already defeated little did they know that they have been missing the main point.

macfarland:
@ROSABALLE
I love your attitude of not giving up, lol I can really figure out that africaness running so powerfully in your veins. I really like watching you. I told you the simple and hard truth and I am happy u recognised that. I was very surprised with your first reaction to my comment quite unlike you trying to sound agreeable yet holding your gormel. But on a second thought u still want to flag your color, lol I know you are an african daughter that got brains and I respect you for that.

You want to say something about what our forefathers did that we shouldnt do today in marriage? I agree with you and that why I started by telling about the '21st century' in the first paragraph. I went on to used two words categorically. That is 'IDENTITY' and 'VALUE' Try and make a seperation of the two visa-a-viv what 21 century Formular 1 GrandPuri or Snow Board Skiting can do or cannot do to an African family. When your done, you will see that your guess is as good as mine!

Thank you brother you are hitting the nail on the head despite all what you wrote in the first post they still want to stick to their position we are waiting for her the issue is finally coming home 

Rosabelle:
The person who said that should be jailed for  lying and you should be questioned for further diseminating false information. But I'l come back to that later.

@Pharoh . . . . What we bring to the table. I can speak for myself. Nothing less than I'd expect . . . . . and thats A LOT
This conversation is going round in circles. No one is changing terms without you people's input. You men cant be reasoned with, so we're running ahead and asking you to catch up.
The status quo has changed brother. So instead of being scared, catch up!

It will be nice if you were specific with what you are bringing to the table because it is going to help a lot in resolving this issue. When you give it an effort to list those things then you will realize that it is not an issue of what is brought to the table. One problem you ladies have is that you look at the man from two angles, he helps in making the babies and paying the bills. Now to demand respect from him the option you have taken is to be financially independent and God help you ladies in that aspect of child bearing maybe you all will be single mothers since you don't need the man for anything again.

You ladies has never given us the opportunity to make an input and now you are expecting us to catch up? We are not running lady, we are where we are you will come back and meet us where we are standing. If you want a change please carry the men along two heads are better than one.  Statusquo has changed and i know what you mean, You are financially independent now right whats the deal? Sure we have been moving around in a circle so answer my question lets move forward. When we move forward you will realize it is not about what you are bringing to the marriage

oln:
ROSSABELLE,may u live very long.you'v said it all.i get so pissed off whn men expect women to see dem as ''demi-gods"'.anyway,as for me im married and my hubby is so undrstandin and is of d believe dat women shld be treated fairly and nt d othr way round.pharoah and d othrs refered to men fendin for the family.have they forgetn dat most women even earn more than their husbands.INFACT,THEY R D BREADWINNERS.RUBBBBBBBBBISHH

What do i need the money of my wife for if i am comfortable enough to provide for the home myself?

@Rosa you said it is all about respect right so can you tell me in what ways we have been treating women as maids or slaves?

I would want you to take this advice from me, don't argue about this topic to win with but to learn one or two things from it. The battle cannot be won by any party even if defeats stares them at the face they will never accept defeat. So we are all just educating ourselves.  

I hope they can use this peaceful atmosphere to do what is right now.

This is a current affair or political question i am not sure but to answer your question it is because they grow or they can be transformed into another country or state hence the female label. Women are seeing as the symbol of creation so since this state and country can be created out of nothing or something then the right label is the "HER" label.

Anyway i am not sure if i am right though

What is your status?

Rosabelle:
@Pharoh
Dude, theres no question on the leadership role. Problem is, a lot of terms have to be redefined with wisdom. A leader is to lead and not to dictate. Think about that.
If society knew what was best, explain to me why society hasnt solved nigeria's problems. Or does it only apply to man/woman issues?
Society knows best, and thats why women are so unhappy?
My friend, society is made up of people and if youre telling me I should allow people who dont know me or my wants and needs to define them, then Im telling you youre wrong.

You people seem to have a warped mindset of the so called 'our mothers' who are happy to get married bla bla bla.
You people never hear women discuss their husbands and so that facade a mother puts up of being happy is for her children. Because she knows her happiness is theirs and so she cant appear discontent.
So dont think those women were happy. Many of them put up acts out of love for their children. But if asked, you'l be shocked at what those women have to say about their men
And thats the difference. Today, a girl no longer wants to have to swallow everything and make the man feel like he can make her unhappy and still be called a man. It is also his duty to see to her well being. And with that, I dont mean paying bride price or buying bread.
If your argument is only the monetary aspect, then I'l tell you, I can fend for myself and four others. What else are you bringing to the table??
You people tend to think as long as youre spending money, you can demand all you want and have a right to get it. WRONG!

I have questions for you dear.

What are you ladies bringing to the table? Hope you don't tell me things i can do without you?
What percentage of our mothers are not happy with their marriage?

I am not even arguing about the money dear but if you must ask for your rights (when you already have one) come to the negotiating table and lets sort it all once and for all. We will not put culture or society in this discussion as they will only be an obstacle then you will realize where you ladies are making the mistake.

You said a lot of things has to be redefined with wisdom but who is doing it right now? You ladies are changing the terms without the input of the men and you are obviously doing it to suit yourself. I am in a change and i am not prepared to treat my wife the way you ladies are looking at it but this change must come from both angles and not solely from the female angle.

We are not using and will never use money to shut you up in any argument this is the 21st century for Christ sake and you people beat this education issue like our mothers were not educated?

Ebonyeyes:
It is better to be single than to be with a controlling goon who you have to take permission from to breathe .

So because we asked you to play your female role in a marriage you now term it to a slavery-master situation.   So if you want to serve me my food now you won't kneel down when dropping it on the table and stay in that position until i ask you to stand up

Ebonyeyes:
So thats an excuse to cheat? wow you amaze me

I am not giving an excuse for him to cheat but addressing something else entirely that has nothing to do with cheating. At least you should have checked my post above that na   Hope you won't shoot me one day oooooooo  

I was only trying to say that maybe they didn't think very properly before getting married hence the problem with their marriage. I wasn't giving an excuse or reason why he is cheating or trying to justify it because you can see that i condemned him.

In addition to what Ani Lee has said also try to find out why her friend hates you so you can address all issues at the same time so it doesn't turn to a cat and mice game.

Today your choice was right but who knows about tomorrow? It will be good if you let us know why you don't like him? Your reasons should at least be weighed with your refusal decision.