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Pharrell18:
I appreciate you taking time to compose this. I get all you said but want to ask you some questions. But before then I would like us to think where the word "workingdog" came from. I believe a working dog are dogs that help and assist its humans and they excel at jobs such as guarding property, nerding, protecting livestock and so on. I can just in simple terms say any dog that has a daily task and job that are been carried out efficiently is a workingdog.

German Shepherds are originally breed to be a working dog regardless of its pedigree or not, or are we saying without a dog pedigree it can't be a working dog?

Now to my questions:

IF I'm to go for a dog show where there's a professional and licensed judge accessing dogs will the pedigree of my dog be needed before the judge can classify a dog working line or Showline. Or will the judge base his conclusion on the physical and non physical standard attributes.

Secondly, If a dog Pedigree can't be traced how then can one qualifies a dog Showline or working line.

Thanks and hope your day was good.

A working dog is actually working and he/she is present in service, he/she has been tested, selected and approved.

German Shepherds are originally breed to be a working dog regardless of its pedigree or not, or are we saying without a dog pedigree it can't be a working dog?....That's your very first indirect question.

Answer: Your dog can be a working dog even he/she has never been known to be from a working bloodline or if there is no pedigree to tell us she is from this or that but she has to show the desired traits and instincts of a working dog then he/she must meet up with what I wrote in the first paragraph that is he/she has been tested, selected and approved.

IF I'm to go for a dog show where there's a professional and licensed judge accessing dogs will the pedigree of my dog be needed before the judge can classify a dog working line or Showline. Or will the judge base his conclusion on the physical and non physical standard attributes.

Answer: Well depending on the type of shows and rules of the show, normally a working dog won't appear in a show that is only for showline dogs and also vice versa. But if that's the case and they are supposed to be grouped into classes, then yes the judge will be needing the pedigree of your dog to know the specific line he/she belongs to. Then one thing I observed you keep saying is the physical attributes and non physical attributes. Well this is the first time of hearing non physical attributes and I really do not understand what that means but to the physical attributes..I want to believe you are referring to judging your dog according to the breed standard. When a Judge does this he/she is only performing what we know as conformation to the breed standard and this cannot be used to class a dog into a working line or a showline. The pedigree of the dog tells us that.

Secondly, If a dog Pedigree can't be traced how then can one qualifies a dog Showline or working line.

Answer: It is very difficult and the reality is that one cannot without the pedigree. That was why I asked that question from the beginning that how did you know that your dog is a working line GSD.

Like I said earlier the misconception is always using the topline and the croup of these dogs to judge that but I can assure it is only in this part of the world that is being done and that is because some things are not working in the canine industry. You'll hear people saying slant and straight back, shall I shock you...they all have a straight back but the topline, the croup and difference in angulation is what folks use in classifying a working line from a showline and that is very funny. You might need to read my other post or read on the anatomy of the German Shepherd Dog by Louis Donald. You'll understand better.

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agboedeh:
U have a point in what u said bro. But I believe that a working dog is a dog that work. U might get a pup from a working bloodline but the owner might decide not to train it and leave it to lazy around the house or keep it restricted throughout its life. Will u call that dog a working dog. His dog might not be from a working bloodline but still do a lot of work like guarding , hunting, tracking, therapy etc. I strongly believe that wat makes ur dog a working dog is the ability for ur dog to work and not just by coming from a working bloodline.

Okay, to your first paragraph...be sure to know there is a difference between a working dog and a dog from a working bloodline. A working dog is actually working and he/she is present in service, he/she has been tested, selected and approved. The working bloodline just shows the required dog has a known history of more than five generations of dogs that have worked or in some cases are still working.

When you call a dog a working dog, it is not about mere saying alone, it is not a dog just running after rats alone or killing some bush meat for you. The dog goes through a lot of series of tests even a gun shot test before he/she is selected and approved. Those that failed will not work, they can be used in breeding but they can't be called a working dog. When you take the dog working to the field he/she becomes a working dog.

Now to the aspect of bloodline, yes his dog might not be from a working bloodline and yet be a working dog, but this dog has to show the desired traits needed in a working dog, must have passed the tests, selected and approved. A dog from a working bloodline that is roaming about in a Kennel or he's being caged down is not a working dog, he/she just have an advantage of being picked for a test ahead of this dog we are talking about. When the time comes for trainers to test some working dogs, dogs with no known history of working can never be selected.

For your dog to be guarding , hunting, tracking, etc like you mentioned, it's not just a mere say. He/she would have been approved.

Pharrell18:
Okay, so there are two types of GSD generally we have the Working line and Showline. A good Showline GSD is a strikingly beautiful dog. Show line German Shepherds are inclined to be larger, more angulated and brighter in color than Working Line dogs. They are predominantly black and red, Workingline GSD on the other hand are bred generally for their working traits rather than their appearance, thus the appearance of these dogs varies a lot. Although powerful and athletic, they are less likely to show the refined conformation typical of show lines; still, many due show exceptional structure. They can be black and tans, saddle backs, bi colors, solid blacks and pretty much every other color. Now to your question, you are getting it all wrong a dog been working line/Showline is TOTALLY different from Pedigree. In simple terms Pedigree simply means been able to trace and document the root of your dog. Jack is working line GSD because she meet most of the physical and non physical standard attributes of a workingline GSD. I'm open to learn if you think I'm wrong tho.

Well firstly I'll commend you for doing a bit of online research. It's very good because you'll be needing it the more in the nearest future.

Secondly, it is you who is getting it all wrong. You'll observe I didn't jump into conclusions but I asked you a question. And please keep an open mind to what I have to say. Looking back at some of my post, I said it there that the line your dog belongs to is not based on the looks, it is based on how your dog was bred. The pedigree of your dog is what will tell you the line he/she belongs to. If you say your dog is a working line GSD, you should be able to prove it, who are the parents or who are the grandparents?...Have they been in a working field before?..Has anyone in his/her lineage been tested in the schutzhund or IPO training before, were they awarded titles? I asked because these are what can point us to the specific line your dog belongs to. You folks need to stop this misconception of using the topline and angulation of GSDs especially when stacked to judge if they are a working line or a showline GSD.

You also mentioned about your dog meeting the physical and non physical attributes of a standard working line GSD. Who told you that bro? Has a professional and licensed judge accessed your dog before?..ln a case whereby there is no judge, the pedigree of your dog points you to what your dog is.

The pedigree you think is just some written and documented ancestral lineage alone?...Nah..it's more than that. It's a big tool in the hand of any breeder. I will never call any of my GSDs a specific line without any proof.

I'll cite an example to you, if you know Household, tell him you need a working line GSD, he will tell you the working line he has is the DDR. Ask for the name of the parents of any puppy you are making enquiries about. Take the names and look them up...look at the names behind each and every dog..you'll fully understand what I'm telling you because behind these said names he'll be giving you, you'll see dogs that have truly worked and have been licensed to use for breeding too. The pedigree says a lot than names of parents alone. The problem is the fact that majority don't know how to read the pedigree of a dog hence they say it's just some names written down. If you're an aspiring breeder, you need to read a lot bro and I mean a lot.

Finally your dog is good, I'm not saying she's isn't well bred or whatever but can you prove it to us that she's a working line?...Not all dogs are working dogs bro. Cheers!

Pharrell18:
But it is clearly written that it was a app and definitely the reading is from pictures. And was also noted that the app is not always consistent. The App just dey try identify the breed of the dog and no one is saying it's a standard method.

I asked a simple question chief.

frankdudus:
So I came across this app today, it runs and shows the type of breed and how pure your dog is. Note the results are not always consistent, test it when my girl was laying doing and it shows 89% but i get a better result with a standing posture. The app try Sha at least identifying the breed is 90% accurate. My thoughts thou.

Was this result gotten from a DNA sample or the app just reading some pictures?

frankdudus:
I forgot to mention she's a working line GSD.

How did you come to this conclusion?

Do you have her pedigree that pointed that to you?

BossBreeder:
Still here waiting for pro advice.

You are funny chief. I dropped my phone number for you but I do not know why you didn't show up. Not everyone has the time to be dropping lines on Nairaland like that. A normal one on one conversation I know would be better. But if you don't need my advice, no problem about that.

I'll give you one though, make sure you have a good well paying job if you really want to go into breeding. If you see breeding as your primary means of income, you'll run out soon and I mean very soon. You'll invest heavily and returns might not show up immediately.

Breed selection, target in breeding, making research about the pedigree of your chosen breed to mention a few are all other things you'll be needing advice on too. Cheers.

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Baroba:
Finally someone actually puts the price of his pups like it is done in other countries without asking you to call " to be hoodwinked".. Well done sir

When sellers put up price tags for thier products or whatever it is they sell, competition will then be on the basis of quality of goods and service delivery. Because price will be transparent and regulated by market forces. This is exactly what these contact for price people are trying to bypass including someone like me.

So my friend, nobody is trying to hoodwink you. Everyone always have a purpose for their actions...people should stop talking from a myopic point of view.

Eveezy:
It’s not Don empire that owns the dog either. Both parties are just doing their best to make sure these quality puppies gets to the right hands

A big thanks for the superb clarification.

obynocute:
It depends on the bloodline and percentage of purity.

Hello Boss, there is absolutely nothing like percentage of purity.

Jhaytee4all:
Please let me know... A friend of mine is trying to get one. Thanks

Hey there, for the German Shepherd Dog, you might need to check some of my thread for the perfect one for your friend.



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Spanishmilf:
I ender my sentence with a question mark so am asking you how is this your dog sir?

Go and ask the said person you said owns them.

Spanishmilf:
This dog is from Don empire
How is this your dog??

And Don told you he owns them?....funny human being you are. Next time ask questions and stop jumping into hasty conclusions. Enjoy

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PeraGSD:
No need to pchat as I'm sure other people would like to see the "mad quality" 30k GSD you have on offer. So show it here. Please let's see parents too.

Mr Pera some thread are not worth jumping into sir. You just have to sit and watch behind the scenes else they'll drag you to their level. But I trust you anyway..

Hello everyone and welcome to yet another interesting topic today about the German Shepherd Dog. I know looking at the topic, majority of us will be very interested. This topic has been overflogged so many times on the internet but that doesn't mean we shouldn't keep an open mind to new things and we shouldn't just dwell on our residual knowledge without having interest in learning the more when there's an opportunity.

In my two previous post, I actually mentioned that we have five lines of the German Shepherd Dog and today we will be looking at these five major lines one after the other. Before we do that I'd like to clear a very popular misconception, there is nothing like a straight back or slant back GSD, if we are to look at the anatomy of the German Shepherd Dog, all German Shepherd Dogs have a straight back and none has a slant/sloppy back.

Why did I say this?...It's quite unfortunate I do not know how to attach pictures one after the other in the subtopic but I'll do my best to explain very well without a pictorial representation. We often think the working line is the straight back and the showline is the slant back. Now what we can say is sloppy or slant about any German Shepherd Dog is the topline and the croup.

The Topline:
The topline is the line formed by the withers, back loin and croup. It is the area from the base of the neck to the base of the tail on a dog.

The Croup:
The croup is that muscular area on the rump or buttocks of the dog, forward of the set-on of tail. Where there is a sharp decline in angle of the croup, it is can be referred to as droop.

These two mentioned above is what we see in some dogs, and often times the angulation also plays a major important role. In the angulation aspect we have the over, the deep, the moderate, and the under. The moderate angulation is simply the best any dog can have and please be reminded that when these things becomes obvious in a German Shepherd Dog is when they are stacked especially when they are being prepared for a photoshoot. A working line can be stacked and have a well constructed topline and a croup and the same goes for a showline too. The line your GSD belongs to is how he/she was bred not how he/she looks like and it is only the pedigree that can reveal this to you.

So going back to the major details of the topic, we have five major lines of the German Shepherd Dog and they are divided into two types which is the working line and the showline. Irrespective of the lines, a German Shepherd Dog still remains a German Shepherd Dog as long as you have a verifiable pedigree of up to at least 3 generations.

Showline GSD's are family-friendly and physically appealing version of the breed.

Working lines are the version of the breed that is fiercely loyal and unequalled in private security, police work, and even high-level military use.

Personality Difference

Working lines GSD are more aggressive and is very sensitive to any fast-moving persons or animals because they assumed it to be a prey. They also use their mouth to bite or attack rather than their paws. This aggressiveness is an effect of the severe training exposures. The training requires more special exercises that will develop its physical strength and intelligence in order to be prepared in hazardous field of work.

German Shepherd Show Lines are calm, more tamed and home-friendly but still requires cautions because they can be also dangerous when improperly handled. However, their aggressiveness are usually expressed when there is situation that they need to defend themselves.

For those who are planning to have a German Shepherd Dog, it is not enough that you know about their types of functions but it is also essential to be oriented about the major types of breeds of German Shepherd Lines. Below are some of the famous lines of the German Shepherd working and show lines.

American/Canadian Show Lines

The AKC officially recognized the GSD in 1908. Soldiers coming home to North America after World War I helped increase the popularity of the breed after seeing how effectively the Germans had utilized them as war dogs. However, the breed standard today has changed from the dogs employed during the war.

American/Canadian show lines differ from the German lines in several ways. The American/Canadian lines have focused more on the aesthetics of the dog, rather than working ability. Physical characteristics such as extreme rear angulation and the flying trot take precedence. Their bodies are taller, longer and narrower.


Bred for Appearance
Bodies are Taller and Longer
Extreme Rear Angulation
Often Lighter in Color
Softer Temperament
Great Family Dog

The AKC recognizes 11 different colorings, but most common are tan with black saddle, solid blacks and bi-colored. Their colors tend to be lighter than their European counterparts.

Dogs from the American/Canadian show lines have more laid back temperaments and are ordinarily lower-energy. These dogs can make excellent family dogs. Their softer temperament makes them less suitable for working dogs in police-type work.

AKC recognition depends solely on the dog being purebred. Further, during shows, dogs are judged on appearance alone. Testing does not take into account temperament, nor does it factor in protection work, tracking or herding abilities. In fact, protection work was shunned until recently. Good breeders select for temperament as well as the appearance of their GSD’s. However, some focus solely on appearance, creating dogs with potential personality and health defects.


West German Show Lines

The registration requirements for West German show lines are much more stringent than for the American/Canadian lines. The dog must be more than merely a purebred: its parents must have passed health and temperament evaluations, as well as conform to appearance standards.

Additionally, West German show lines are required to have Schutzhund and herding titles. Schutzhund, German for “protection dog,” has evolved into a sport for any dog, and it focuses on tracking, obedience, and protection. However, its original purpose was reserved for certifying the integrity of the GSD. West German show lines still must exhibit working abilities to compete. These qualities are also required to breed.


Bred for Appearance, Health, & Working Ability
Stockier Build & Larger Head
Back Curved rather than Sloped
Often Redder in Color
Few Health Problems
High Energy / High Drive
Good Family Dog

Aesthetically speaking, West German show lines are bigger overall than the American/Canadian GSD’s: they are thicker, big boned dogs with larger heads and a stockier build. These GSD’s also have a curved back, unlike the sloped back of the American/Canadian GSD.

Their colors tend to be redder than their North American counterparts and come in the saddle pattern almost exclusively. The texture of their coat is plusher, with this branch of the breed carrying the recessive gene for long coats.

The West German show lines have stronger personalities and have fewer health problems because of the health evaluations breeding dogs must endure. Their energy levels are high, as well as their drive, and they can make excellent family pets.

While most GSD’s from this line can be competent in Schutzhund (as they must be to compete in conformation), they are probably not the best choice for protection work (although they are a better choice than the American/Canadian GSD).


West German Working Lines

With the division of Germany, a West German working line emerged. West Germany was less concerned with using their dogs for military purposes. The West German working line still retained its working ability but also was bred for its appearance.


Bred Less for Appearance
Selected for Health & Working Ability
More Sloped Back than Eastern Lines
Very High Energy and Drive
More Variance in Body Shape than Show Lines
More Demanding Exercise / Training Requirements

The West Germans valued perfect colors and a calmer demeanor. Additionally, the physique of the West German working lines is more sloped than the DDR/East German working lines. They are still as energetic as the DDR/East German working lines and need adequate exercise. Health evaluations were not as stringent in West Germany, so they could have slightly more health problems than their East German counterparts. However, West German working lines tend to yield healthy dogs.


DDR/East German Working Lines

After World War II, the Berlin Wall separated West Germany and East Germany. Trade with the outside ceased for East Germany, preserving the lineage of the DDR/East German working lines. Because these dogs would be used for military purposes, the government took control of the line and was able to keep it insulated from outside influence.

The standards for the DDR/East German working lines were extremely high. These dogs had strong bones, broad shoulders, and large heads. Dogs could only be bred if they were completely free of hip dysplasia. Entire litters were inspected for proper temperament, bone structure, coat quality, etc.


Bred for Military Purposes
Very High Breeding Standards
Fewer Health Problems
Larger Heads and Strong Bodies
Exceptional Endurance & Athleticism
Tend to be more Aloof and Defensive
Less Suitable for Family Dog
Demanding Exercise / Training Requirements

Physical tests included being able to scale a straight wall of 1.5 and 1.8 meters, walking a balance beam, searching ten blinds (as opposed to six blinds that West German dogs searched) and completing rigorous tracking tests. They were bred to withstand harsh weather conditions and long days.

The primary purpose of the DDR/East German working lines was border patrol, but they were also used for tracking and as attack dogs. They had to have both endurance and athleticism. They also tend to be more aloof and defensive.



Czech Working Lines

Very Similar to East German Lines
Bred for Military Purposes
Very High Energy and Drive
Exceptional Endurance & Athleticism
Less Suitable for Family Dog
Demanding Exercise / Training Requirements

Originating in Czechoslovakia post-World War II, the Czech working lines arose in similar circumstances as the DDR/East German lines. The communist countries shared a border after the war, and thus the two lines are very alike. In fact, their titles are often combined as “DDR/Czech working lines” to refer to the eastern European branch of GSDs. The Czech working lines were also used in border patrol and for protection, and have been described as being intense and agile.


Mixing Different Types of German Shepherds

Each line has its own qualities that differentiate it from the others. Breeding multiple lines can add desirable traits to a line that might otherwise not contain them.

For instance, a dog from the American/Canadian show lines, while aesthetically pleasing, may lack in working ability. To compensate, breeding an American show line with a German working line could yield a dog that physically maintains the integrity of that line and may have a little more drive than you would typically find. A DDR/East German working line bred with a West German working line may produce a dog with all the athleticism of the DDR but without as much intensity. A strong, powerful and driven dog may be derived from mixing the DDR and Czech working lines.

Qualities are derived more from the individual dogs themselves. However, genetics also play a role, and by knowing the tendencies of each line, one would be able to select for the qualities most appealing to them.

A Note on Training German Shepherds

No matter which of the types of German shepherds you have, training is essential. It must not be forgotten that German shepherds are large working dogs with more drive than most breeds.

On my next post I'll be talking on the line of the perfect German Shepherd Dog for you as a breeder and as a dog lover.

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alberson:
I got him yesterday and he is 7weeks old, the seller claims the dog is a pure breed boerboel but my younger brother said not a pure breed...

Most of the time I do not have any pity for people like you and that's because recently I have come to discover that most folks look for medicine after death. If this your thread was up before paying for the puppy, it would have made a lot of sense. But instead you went ahead, paid for the dog and come to nairaland and ask for the breed of the puppy.

It amazes me when people ask questions like this one, who is a licensed judge here, or does anyone run DNA test to show you the breed(s) your dog Is made up of? Where are the parents that was shown to you?...if you don't have that, nobody can tell you if your dog is a specific breed especially when strong mixes has been involved. I see people asking you to arrest the seller or you go back for change...don't even try it because you will loose gallantly. The deed has been done already, love your dog as a pet and don't breed with it because this is not a breeding quality dog.

Yes you were told it is a Boerboel, did you take your time to make a research of what a pure bred Boerboel puppy looks like, at least you have the internet and there are thousands of informations online to help anybody out with whatever breed you might be in need of.

I know some puppies will appear so obvious as a mutt at the initial stage but it takes a very good eyes to see that. Some sellers even fake the parents to innocent buyers, I've seen upto four before. Next time, before you press the send button, make your research first!


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Endy10:
It's nice that someone has finally taken it upon himself to educate people on things like things. I always say the first thing a breeder should consider shouldn't be money or the number of pups you hope to get. It should be improving the breed.

The issue of pedigree has been a burning topic on Nairaland for years and people have used that term aimlessly. Some think pedigree means physical attributes of the dog.

Most of the issues that you discussed are known to me because I'm an avid reader. Been a dog lover since I was a kid and I've always tried to educate myself on what I claim to love, especially on the GSD, though I also have a soft spot for the Malinois.

I wish more articles like this would crop up on nairaland. Even though I enjoy browsing through pictures of dogs for sale, I would like to see more of something informative.

Been thinking of starting a thread on dog training and socialization and the need for it. That is another topic I think people need education on. Most people get or adopt dogs and don't know you have to do the work too. Some go as far as searching for ways on how to make their dogs aggressive and attack people.

Would love to pick your brain on this.

Good job

Hi bro, thanks for the compliment. It's a good thing to give out what we got for free as this will lift out people out of their ignorance and the old fat lies they've been told.

I've come to understand the problems most people have is reading up on free informations. Majority are okay with residual knowledge and most times you hear people saying my vet told me this and told me that. I won't go into that vet issue for now.

On the dog training and socialization thread you wish to start, it's a welcome development and it will also give people like me an avenue to learn the more. I hope to see that thread soonest.

Hello people and welcome to another brief teaching about this precious breed called the German Shepherd Dog, that is just what this page is all about and during this various mini teachings, I'll be taking time to point out some undiluted truths to us if you are a special lover of this special breed.

The last time I spoke about somethings to look out for when trying to get a German Shepherd Dog and to be honest I was very surprised at the amount of messages I got from people who are willing and open to learn the more about this precious breed.

We talked about the five lines of the GSD and also talked about those things to look out for as well as questions to ask breeders when we are trying to get a GSD.

Today we'll be touching a very important aspect of this breed called the pedigree. At this point I know some of us have already heard about this word before especially when sellers, marketers and breeders are advertising their puppies. The word pedigree is not limited to the GSD alone as it cut across all breeds. But do not be fooled, there is a difference between the word pedigree and a pedigree dog but some sellers/breeders will never want you to know this truth because some of them believe it will devalue the prices they've placed on their puppies. Doubt me on this?...go to your browser, open two different tabs, search for the word pedigree separately and on the other tab search for the words "pedigree dog". Meanwhile I'll try and touch both.

What is the meaning of the word pedigree?.....The word pedigree in a simple term means the recorded ancestry or lineage or descent of an animal, showing it to be pure-bred. Most times the minimum to be known is at least 5 generations but these days, the information you seek is within the last 3 generations.

What is the meaning of the words pedigree dog?...A pedigree dog is born from two dogs of the same breed, and is registered with a recognised club or society that maintain a register for dogs of that description. There are a number of pedigree dog registration schemes, of which the Kennel Club (KC) is the most well known. Did anyone observed the word registered?..If yes, there you have your answer. When a breeder or seller tells you he has pedigree GSD puppies for sale, he is simply telling you he has puppies that have been registered by a Kennel Club or a Breed Club for sale. But is that possible in Nigeria presently?...the answer is yes and no.

Yes in the aspect that the dogs being called pedigree dogs are actually imported, registered, documented, and verified from whichever country they are coming from. If anyone can show you this for the dog(s) they advertise and not for the parents of the dog(s) then you have a pedigree dog, you can actually do every other verifications you may need and go ahead to purchase.

No in the aspect that the country doesn't have a Kennel Club as we speak, the dog(s) do not fall into the Yes category, even if they are offspring of dog(s) in the Yes category, you can only say they are from pedigree stock(s).

We not really going to talk about the pedigree dogs today but we'll focus on the word pedigree because it is also an important factor to consider when trying to choose a German Shepherd Dog.

Pedigree is a tool in the hands of the breeder, it points you to so many things about the dog you are trying to get. Like I said in the first post, there are five lines of the German Shepherd Dog, and only the pedigree of the dog will tell you what line he/she falls into. Most times it's funny how people talk and arrive at hasty conclusions out of ignorance calling their German Shepherd Dogs showline or a working line, the question is how do you know this?..your answer lies in the pedigree of your dog. If you don't have any for your dog, then that is a major problem as you'll be missing so many informations about your dog.

Like I said earlier the word pedigree is a tool in the hands of a breeder that tells you how your dog was bred, the special traits your dog is made up of, the titles and awards won by his/her ancestors, the temperament, the specific line he/she belongs to and sometimes what you should expect as results from the offspring that will be coming out when you start breeding your dogs. Those are just few to mention and it should be known that the word pedigree is not just some stuffs written and documented in a paper, hell no..it is much more than that. The problem in this part of the world is the fact that people try to fake it that they can read a dog's pedigree whereas they can't and they continue to wallow into that deep ignorance.

If you are going into breeding, your ultimate goal is to improve on the dogs you started with, i.e. the offspring must be better than the parents.

You must be known for a particular thing. Be it some unique traits like a nice head formation, a long body, good coats, nice standing ears or it could even be dogs with lovely temperament and dogs without any health issues.

So for you to achieve this self desired results, you ought to be familiar with what we call the *pedigree* of your dogs. If you don't care about this and just want to breed and sell off, then you are breeding blindly and you're no different from a miller or a peddler.

Going to stop it right here, and I promise to touch more the next time I make a post again. Thank you for reading and I hope you gained a little from this.

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Eveezy:
You really don’t forget, but anyways No one disputes the fact that you are knowledgeable, have superb quality of Gsd, and am sure everyone knew that that dog was not pure but most people went after you because you were so determined to diminish the excitement that guy had over that dog.
I know that people have to stand to stop spread of mutt, but if you looked at it from that guy view, you went straight to break is heart. If you really search yourself, am sure that by now you would have realized that there are better ways that you could have made that guy know the truth especially when you know how excited he was about the dog.
For instance, a man got married to the ugliest girl in a tribe who was formerly a runz girl, where there are several beautiful ladies, to you, the man no try because he had options of choosing the best. You have no relationship with him but you were a invited by his close friend. Is it right for you to come up on his wedding day or after he got married to tell him bluntly, “your wife is too ugly and a prostitute” even if he knows that she is ugly, will he smile with you? Even your friend who invited you to the wedding, will he smile with you?

I don’t know if you understand the analogy, but my point is that, there could have been a better way then to tell the story. The truth they say is bitter, you were the devil in that story that was used to tell that guy the truth.
When the guy realized on his own, you can see that he wants to get rid of the dog right? So just calm down, you can’t force people into submission, it is a gradual process

Dear sir, your point is well taken and fully understood. You should remember I was not trying to force anyone into buying my opinion on the dog. Infact I never said he should sell the dog or put the dog to sleep. I was just trying to let him know the truth so he won't breed with that dog. That was my ultimate aim.

Our Long haired GSD puppies are doing very fine. .

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Hi there, my name is Timmy and I own IGNITE German Shepherds. I saw your thread and immediately I saw the title, I knew you've been misled by someone and reading further comments...nobody has the solution to your problem but they are rather compounding it. Firstly I would have love if you can read my latest post and gain some useful knowledge about this special breed of dog called the German Shepherd Dog.

To start with, please desist from the use of the words slant back and straight back. I tell people there is nothing like that as the use of these words is always used by ignorant people who try and convince people into thinking they know some things about this breed. It's quite unfortunate even these so called breeders act like those are the right worss to use. Once anyone screams these two words wherever I am, I come to the utmost conclusion that such a person has been misled and is ignorant. The right words to use for the type of a German Shepherd is known as the working lines and the show lines. Permit me to use the word type and the right word to use is lines.

Now let me address the problem, the general misconception  in Nigeria is the fact that GSD's with a sloppy croup are the showlines while the ones with straight croup are the working lines....this are the lies of the old but when people like me started seeking more knowledge, we got to know we've been fed with lies. Only the pedigree of a German Shepherd will tell you the line he/she belongs to, you do not just look at a dog and claim the dog is this or that. Even licensed and recognized judges don't judge these dogs at  shows that way. That is one of the reason I always educate people on making sure you invest in a GSD that you know it's pedigree. It is only that way you can be rest assured of what you are getting into.

Some comments on here made me laugh hard, and it got to an extent that I shook my head in disappointment. For example one of the comments is quoted as saying a showline GSD is a cockroach. That is an advance and deep ignorance and I wouldn't blame him because if he were to be familiar with the breed and he has taken his time to study the breed standard of the GSD from either the SV, WUSV and FCI he wouldn't have spilled out such.

Truth be told whether the dog is a working line or a show line, both are still German Shepherd Dogs. They are just bred for different purposes.

Showline GSD's are family-friendly and physically appealing version of the breed that are mainly bred for looks.

Working lines are the version of the breed that is fiercely loyal and unequalled in private security, police work, and even high-level military use. As you can see the showlines are bred for a purpose and the working lines are also bred for a purpose as well. Someone said the original GSDs are the ones Max Von Stephanitz bred while he was alive, but I'd like to know if this person is using the same phone that existed when he/she was given birth to as we speak. Max Von Stephanitz asked the GSD breeders to make sure they improve on what he created and make sure his dogs remains a working dog and I can categorically tell you that charge still exists as all GSDs irrespective of the lines are all working dogs. You want to ask me how that is possible?....do a research about the Schutzhund shows, the WUSV shows and the Sieger shows and tell me what you see.

Basically there is what we call the breed standard of the GSD in which judges use to judge a GSD in a situation where such GSD does not have a known pedigree or the pedigree is lost in the winds. If some of us can try and lay our hands on it and also have a foreknowledge of the anatomy of the GSD, we will definitely know the reason why some breeders will point at your so called straight backs as a fake GSD. I have seen so many dogs on here being paraded as GSDs but truth be told they are all rubbish and mutts. An example is the picture posted on this thread, that dog has a lot of disqualifying faults and the obvious ones are the head formation and the height. For God's sake GSDs are not short and they shouldn't have long snout but if you bring that to my Kennel and I tell you the dog is not a GSD, you cry wolf and will not ask me why I said that. You want to see a working line GSD? I have attached a picture, just take a look at it, compare it to what was posted on here and change that mentality of yours about breeders rejecting your dog because it's not a showline GSD.

Basically there are five lines of the GSD and they are:


West German Showlines

American/Canadian Showlines

West German Working lines

DDR/East German Working lines

Czech Working lines.

If you say you have a GSD, he or she must belong to any of these lines, and you must be able to prove that especially with a pedigree or any form of document from a recognized breed club.

What is being paraded on here are majorly mix bred dogs, it's okay if you own them as a pet and for security purpose but once you claim you want to breed with it, then you are adding to the problems that has being created already and mutts will continue to exist.

Sometimes last year, a nairalander created a thread for a dog he bought and called it a GSD. My eyes seeing the innocent puppy at 8weeks or thereabouts knew this was a mutt and this guy has been misled as well as cheated on. I told him and he came for my head..he even had some cohorts and the one I can remember with a name is Vincentjk. They threw all sorts of rubbish at me but because I knew what I was saying I didn't back down. Months later, the dog grew and he himself came out to say his dog has a mix or a touch of husky somewhere. He saw that about 5 months later what I saw in the dog at 8 weeks when he just bought the dog. Funny right?....I'm sure that thread is dead now. What pained me most as at that time is how he has misled so many people into thinking his dog is a GSD and that was why I came hard on him.

Truth be told the German Shepherd Dog has been bastardized and some breeders also think the real deal are the showlines but they are also wrong, there are good working lines out there with a known and authenticated pedigree to show they are what we say they are. But these dogs are very few in the country, if you want a working line dog that is the real deal, you might have to break the bank for them. Working dogs are not out there for people to breed and sell to private homes, but they are always bred for the sole purpose of working hence the reason why they are scarce and expensive. Only few breeders breed the true working line GSD and the market demand also play an important role on this too.

I'll stop here, if you have questions, throw them and I'll find time to respond or you can easily reach me on Whatsapp via 08062682135.

Hello everyone and welcome to the platform of IGNITE German Shepherds. For the next coming days, I'll be sharing some useful tips and informations about the precious dog breed called the German Shepherd Dog.

This intelligent and loyal breed is very unique and that is why most homes in Nigeria prefer to go for them especially when trying to get a beautiful canine companion/friend for the very first time.

But as it stands this special breed has been seriously bastardized by puppy millers and peddlers that just want to make money off this dogs but are not interested in improving the uniqueness of this breed of dog.

The GSD has really suffered in this part of the world, anything black is a GSD, anything with a pointed/erect ears is a GSD, anything black and brown is a GSD. So much work is being put in place to sanitize the GSD environment in the country, and I have taken this upon myself to also preach this to innocent dog owners and prospective owners to look before they leap when trying to acquire this precious dog breed called the German Shepherd Dog.

Majority of these so called breeders will never let you know what they are selling to you is never a pure bred GSD, most are of different mix breed dogs but because they look like the real thing at the puppy stage and it is at this point innocent buyers falls into their trap and they ignorantly buy these dogs. In order for us to know what we are getting into when trying to get this special unique breed, the very first step to take is to make a research on the line of the German Shepherd Dog you need.

There are five lines of the German Shepherd Dog, and they are:

West German Showlines

American/Canadian Showlines

West German Working lines

DDR/East German Working lines

Czech Working lines.

Most times it is the pedigree of the dog that tells you the lines a specific GSD belongs to.

If a breeder is presenting a GSD to you, ask for the line the dog belongs to and you should be able to verify that yourself (You can ask me how to do that privately). Majority out there are selling mutts to people all in the name of the German Shepherd Dog and this is the biggest problem that has caused the existence of inferior German Shepherd Dogs in Nigeria.

Please let us all be guided when trying to get the German Shepherd Dog even if they'll be a pet/companion dogs or security dogs.  At IGNITE German Shepherds, it is our duty to make sure this beautiful breed is well preserved and improved on according to the breed standard of the German Shepherd Dog.

For further enquiries, please do not hesitate to reach out on any of our platform.

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Sirmuel1:
Nice. But what if we just do business with "only" those we know personally?

Those you know personally is a good way to start with too but will they always be around you?

0ppa:
Whatever happened to going to the pet store, buying the dog and taking it home yourself!

Will you travel to Russia because you want to purchase a Long haired GSD or a Caucasian?....some of us import dogs and we don't get scammed because we do our assignments very well. Like I always tell people, it depends on who you dealing with.