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rofl

^^^^^

Not to side with anybody, but if you dig through Mandingo's posts, you'll find he rails against white people pretty hard, so you guys might have more in common than you think.

Stocker123:
no, I understood you quite well.

Actually, you clearly failed. I never called you a Nazi, but you were too mentally handicapped to grasp that. I mocked the idea of assuming sadism was enmeshed in Austrian culture and in every Austrians "blood."

But don't worry. I expect that kind of intellectual dishonesty from you.

I am very happy that your US education taught you how to use google. Affirmative action works!!!

Google? Dummy, I've read Jelinek's work and that of Musil and Broch and many other writers. And I had already read the article I quoted from after the Fritzl affair. I find her world view interesting, although I usually disagree with almost all of it.

Affirmative action? My son, don't mix up groups. First you make some bizarre reference to African Americans and the groups among them that claim to be the "only true Israelites" and now you're making bizarre claims about affirmative action. Kid, you're on a Nigerian forum, so keep all affirmative action whining to yourself. Nigerians don't need it. Anywhere they go they do fine educationally. U.S., U.K., Norway, or wherever.

"The 2006 American Community Survey of the U.S. Census Bureau stated that 37% of Nigerians in the United States had bachelor's degrees, 17% had master's degrees, and 4% had doctorates. As of that year 8% of White Americans had master's degrees, and as of the same year 12% of Asian Americans had master's degrees and 3% of Asian Americans had doctorates Roderick Harrison, a demographer of the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, said that the statistics for Nigerian Americans had "strikingly high" levels of education; he added "There is no doubt that these are highly educated professionals who are probably working in the petrochemical, medical and business sectors in Houston." Stephen Klineberg, a Rice University sociologist, said that he believed that the actual percentage of Nigerian Americans with post-graduate academic degrees is higher than indicated in the 2006 survey.[4]"

Also,  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/evelyn-hsieh/barack-obama-has-broken-r_b_217965.html

So the reference to affirmative action is asinine. If Nigerians were really as averse to hard work as you want to assume because of their blackness, they would have the same statistics as the group you're trying to denigrate or have educational statistics worse than every other group.

The reference to gay African American prison rapists on a Nigerian forum is equally asinine. Nigeria has a socially conservative culture in most places. Nigeria almost voted on an anti-homosexuality bill (it was unsuccessful though) and there can be no doubt any display of homosexuality would earn somebody a thrashing in prison, especially by all those supposedly born-again Christians. Don't even get me started on the Muslims.

I found a picture of your friends:

http://www.google.ch/imgres?imgurl=http://www.belch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/nigerian-scammers.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.belch.com/blog/tag/nigeria/&usg=__MDm2flbTUdBXwNSEAu_6VhfJWrI=&h=624&w=500&sz=78&hl=de&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=8qv9QbIZjj8yzM:&tbnh=157&tbnw=128&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnigerian%2Bscams%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D635%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C176&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=140&vpy=241&dur=460&hovh=195&hovw=156&tx=99&ty=119&ei=ULwuTdfeBcaWOqS96LcJ&oei=ULwuTdfeBcaWOqS96LcJ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:0&biw=1280&bih=635

Stockboy, I would descend to your level, but I don't actually have anything against Jews, nor do I have anything against white Americans. But for all the degrading pictures one could easily find of Nigerians (not blacks, but Nigerians specifically) on the internet you could find ten times as many deliberate pictures attempting to degrade Jews. "Anyone who knows anything" would know this. I would never post such a picture, because it's just beneath me. I don't have any interest in denigrating any group, but if you really are unaware of the people denigrating your own people in the exact same manner, and with just as many different stereotypes, take a quick tour of some supremacist sites (not just white supremacists, you'd be surprised at how many other supremacists have cooked up some excuse to hate Jews.)

Keep your childish azz penetrati.ng  remarks to yourself. If you are into that thing that's fine. Our country will still embrace you and you don't have to be afraid you are going to loose your welfare checks.

Your whole mentality is childish so I'll address you in the manner that is most appropriate for such infantile thinking.

"Into that thing"? Me? You're the one who claimed that "anyone knows" about gay African American prison rapists! Actually, only some Americans might have an inkling about such. Most of the rest of the world would be oblivious. I'll just assume you watch a lot of TV, since you couldn't possibly be anyone who takes the time to do any sociological research or read any books or have any genuine concern about African Americans' problems.

Welfare? Like I said before kid. Stop mixing groups. If a Nigerian was  actually on welfare in the U.S., his family and relatives might disown him.

Now that is something to be proud of. way to bring up your kids. Tell them "yes, our country is fuked up, but please don' t try to change anything, lets just blame it on the white man because he enslaved us 200 years ago. And I think that's where my back pains are stemming from, so Jr. please scam so I can get my 40 acres and a mule."

Enslave 200 years ago? 40 acres and a mule? Mixing up groups again, I see. And the "white man" comments are just bizarre because the Nigerian scammers don't just scam white people or even selectively target white people. I have read of multiple occurrences where the person scammed was non-white and multiple occurrences where the person was either black or Nigerian, so that whole angle you're trying to put to it is just too bizarre. If some of them go after richer people, that can't be chalked up to the "blame the white man" angle.


I don't feel any pity for you whatsoever. Not at all because you're the "white man." (Actually, you're Jewish, BIG difference. At one point blacks and Jews in America were political allies but dumped each other when their interests diverged.)

The real reason I feel no pity for you is because you have so much latent hatred and prejudice in you, and were just dying for a reason to let it out.

Voltaire had a few bad dealings with Jewish businessmen (there is that STEREOTYPE that Jews are notorious swindlers and financial extortionists. Note that it has been around for literally hundreds of years, long before there was even a country called Nigeria and long before any of the different African groups in what came to be Nigeria had performed a single scam.) and, bigot that he was, went on to write tons of invective about Jews, to casually sprinkle antisemitism throughout his writings, and to try to analyze the old testament to show that the Israelites were mass murderers, evil, etc.

You're no different. Voltaire's misplaced indignation and fury at a whole group for bad interactions with some Jewish merchants was no different from your own and because of that the most influential opinion in all of Europe (Voltaire) went on to denigrate your people with unfair caricatures that still reverberate to this very day. Yet you didn't come in and also mention that some awful stereotypical behavior is in your Jewish' "blood" because you know it's wrong and a distortion.

That's the thing that led me to mock your first post. You have no perspective. If Nigerians have attempted to do something about the problem (EFCC raids of cyber cafes where people are scamming, cyber cafe owners deliberately prohibiting any kind of 419 fraud and openly refusing to serve users suspected of such activity, and the Nigerian government cooperating with foreign governments to procure and charge or extradite multiple individuals wanted for huge fraud, <-----all of these things have happened many times) then you should refrain from painting 150 million people bad from the actions of not even up to a tenth of one percent of them.

Maybe you're just too emotional to see reason.

Stocker123:
First of all you calling me a Nazi because I live in Austria is just plain funny. I am Jewish. Not like you fake wannabe "original jews" or whatever you call yourselves.

Second of all, anyone who knows anything will not be able to deny that american blacks are the king of backside despoiling, but i'm sure you like to get love from the homies too,

Go scam someone, and blame in on my great grandfather,

Your mother has spoken

Comprehension problems, little stocker boy?

I never called you a Nazi, you twit. Has all that Austrian buttrape broken you and left you mentally impaired? Also I don't claim "original Israelite" or whatever so keep that crap to yourself.

I was mocking your reasoning. Going by your reasoning, you live in a country of historically deranged sadists. I'm only concerned for your safety.


Remember what Elfriede Jelinek had to say about Austria's dirty laundry after the Fritzl case? And what about Josef Haslinger?


'Josef Haslinger, a novelist, thinks Austria’s habit of sweeping unpleasant bits of history under the carpet may have something to do with Amstetten’s blindness to Fritzl’s subterranean world.

“There is this pretty, shiny surface that Austrians like to show, but it hides a monstrosity,” he said. “On the surface we have moral standards and enlightened policies, but in the background we have this perverse world that nobody wants to talk about. We are still not able to accept our mistakes. So forgetting has become part of the mentality. If you look too closely you might have to act. So nobody looks.”

The theme dominates much Austrian art, particularly novels by Elfriede Jelinek, who has been accused of executing “hysterical” portraits of Austrian perversity. Tales from the Vienna Woods, a play by Odon Von Horvath that debuted in Berlin in 1938, also high-lighted the syndrome.

“The Austrian character has a hidden, dark side,” said Haslinger. “If we talk about it so much in our art, there must be something there in reality.”

Haslinger was not alone in pointing his finger at a national malaise. Kampusch, who was a freckle-faced 10-year-old when she was kidnapped on her way to school in 1998, said she thinks Austria’s past complicity with the Nazis is at least partly to blame.

Abuse exists worldwide, she said, “but I think it’s also a ramification of the second world war”. During the Nazi era, “the suppression of women was propagated, an authori-tarian education was very important”, added the 19-year-old, whose dramatic escape from her own dungeon of despair in August 2006 captured global attention.

She was suggesting that Fritzl, who told his daughter that she would be “gassed” if she tried to escape from the bunker, belonged to a generation that thought it could get away with anything. '





Herr Stockmeister, I'm seriously concerned for your safety. You're standing on dangerous ground, it seems. Don't leave a non-Jewish Austrian around any cellar door or basement entrance when next you visit someone. The cellar party that might ensue might not be too pleasant.


- The Master

Ola edo:
So how would your people, the Edo people, most likely go about this separation thing.What would you all most likely do based off of what you know about your people?

That's a tough one.  I think that actually depends on what everybody else decides to do actually. They would just be left playing the waiting game probably.


If left to them, I think they would just try to resurrect Bendel minus the groups that want to leave, and when that fails (I think the only people that would stick around would be the Urhobos/Isokos, so it would be a landlocked country of about 6 million, which is fine with me actually.) they would join Oduduwa republic. After all, Edos believe Oduduwa was a Benin man , so that would be no problem having it named after an illustrious Edo son. I would want a better name for such a country though. You can't call yourself an Oduduwan or and Oduduwaian. It just sounds strange and weird.

I just checked and I think Lagos state's GDP per capita is slightly (barely) larger than Edo state's. So I wasn't completely correct, however I was correct about the others from what data currently exists.

asha 80:
are you sure about that?

It seems to be the case.

I could be wrong. Ogun or Oyo would be the states I would think were at the same level or higher, but from the data available, that doesn't seem to be the case at all. Maybe you know something I don't though.

olabukola:
MINORITY KO mirority ni. Delta and edo are yorubas. although they are not part of the west. But if nigeria willl divide they must join the yorubas in the west. We can give them adequate protection from North and east aggression. Moreover they cannot function well if they stand on their onw and will not like to join the east. Only the ibos in delta will join the east.

Are Urhobos and Ijaws Yoruba?

What's this about them not functioning well if they stand on their own?

Edo and Delta have a higher GDP per capita than every other state that came out of the Western region.

fstranger1:
You are just a disgruntled, good-for-nothing minority

After we are done sucking/guzzling your oil, we will leave you out for the dogs to devour

Until then, WaZoBia we stand.

Disgruntled?

Little stranger, whatever could make you think I'm disgruntled? This is all for my amusement.

And my state has basically too little oil to guzzle, for the record. But for those that do, I'm sure they'll be launching rockets or planting bombs near your home next. And then you'll actually complain.

Young almajiri, has it not dawned on you that Nigeria would not exist without the minorities?

Without the middle belt minorities (if they didn't exist), Northern hegemony would be impossible. They used them for the population domination angle in democracy and used them for military operations and without either of these factors confrontation with both the Yoruba and Igbo would be direct and immediate.


The big three are better off dumping all dependence on any minorities immediately, so that they can separate peacefully without nonsense bickering about borders, oil, and sea access, and many people in the big three already know that but you're so daft you're not getting it.

My point is, "wazobia" as a concept is nonsense. The component members of wazobia actually have more in common with the minorities around them than any of them have with each other, and could not unite culturally except by artificial proclamation that they were united culturally in wazobia.


So bitter and strange. Standing on nothingness.

I have to confess, I'm not an expert in this particular area. I had asked my mom earlier and she didn't tell me anything that would shed light on where it comes from. It just seems like fashion that somebody thought up.


I googled around a bit and this is what I found:

http://www.edofolks.com/html/osahon_ethos_social.htm <------ one part of this article talks about the beads but I find this article kind of full of unsupported claims about Egypt

http://quazen.com/arts/visual-arts/the-art-of-the-edo/  <---- one part talks about the beads but is rather brief

http://books.google.com/books?id=GUs5zzIHm-MC&pg=PA126&lpg=PA126&dq=benin+bead+hairstyle&source=bl&ots=kuwuXWVDmP&sig=osNsgLRpMPS-U_loLVNJwrDZ1qQ&hl=en&ei=2wIuTY6QDoSdlgedh93zCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

^^^^^

On this last link, if you go up a bit, you'll see it talks about how Yoruba women also used to wear beads and other trinkets as decorations for weddings but it doesn't say whether or not they put it in their hair or had a particular hairstyle decoration.

However the part where it seems it would have talked about Benin (p. 121-122), have been omitted from the preview. Maybe you could find that book in a library and look through that section if you really want to know. This book was really detailed and specific about origins and uses of beads for different groups in that general region from the little bit of it that I read, so it would probably answer your question, but the relevant part seems to have been omitted.

The minorities' continued existence pains you, my son?

Sit down and stop standing on nonsense and delusion.

How can you stand on thin air?

Ola edo:
use your brain and stop acting like an imbecile2.

Who's acting like an imbecile2? What's an imbecile2? Is it related to an imbecile1 or an imbecile3?

These are important questions.

odumchi:
"What did we ever do to deserve this? Why are we Igbos, Ibibios, Ijaws, Efiks, and Bendels given a back seat role in our own nation?"

lol, "Bendels"? Is that an ethnic group? Is it in the east?

Some questions.

Are Benue, Kogi, and Plateau, part of the "Zo"?


Are Rivers, Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom, Cross Rivers all part of the "Bia"?


Are Edo and Delta part of the "Wa"?


If not, I'm wondering how you arrived at your percentage there.



Anyway, WAZOBIA was a dumb idea. Just like putting Yoruba, Hausa, and Igbo on the naira was a dumb idea.

[quote author=alj-harem link=topic=581825.msg7515359#msg7515359 date=1294837680]sorry to say this but i think you need to check your brain out to see it there is still a brain there or just sea weed

gun violence in america, is it part of america culture or in there gene

being gay in western countries is it part of there culture

insurance theft in your country is it part of your culture

si stealing arts from africa and other countries part of your culture

why generalise like that that scramming is a culture are you that ignorant and stu.pid

the question u should be asking is why do they scam; and the answer to your question is that they do it just like the your people steal from others, which is wrong

the nigerian government that should be doing something about it are busy stealing oil to your country at a cheaper price

doing oil bonkary etc just to make your lifes in the western countries better

does that answer your question [/quote]This American, Mr. Stocker lists his location as Austria, the home of the world renowned Josef Fritzl (MD, MPH, Ph.D, D. Litt, FRS, Order of Vienna, Golden Medal of Austria, etc.)

Going by his line of reasoning, sadistic basement despoil and impregnation of one's own daughters is thoroughly enmeshed within Austrian culture and "in their blood". Depraved sadistic tendencies are possibly part of the motivation for their Nazi past. It would certainly explain a lot going by his reasoning. He ought to get out of there quick before he wakes up to find himself in a cellar getting manhandled and thoroughly buttraped by a large Austrian bear of a man in an old SS uniform. Or maybe a small and weaselly but equally sadistic Hans Landa type will deal with him.

It's only a matter of time.




The Master has spoken.

What exactly is this topic about? How one extremely corrupt man didn't bother to get another successfully prosecuted?

And let's be honest with ourselves, there was never really going to be a debate, that was just a feint by a calculating Atiku to try and embarrass GEJ.

If there was really supposed to be a debate Atiku would have insisted on it (since it could only be to his advantage) , and the two groups would have scheduled something.

Instead he is off somewhere talking about how IBB is the new incarnation of Ahmadu Bello.

Tragic. I wonder how they are going to make it after this.

revolt:
Dude the ishans r the only Edos known for sucess and hard work the binis r

Who cares what rumormongers like you say the Binis are known for or not known for? The Binis are a small group and some people (as shown recently on another thread in this forum) don't know what religion they are,  what their population is, and a host of other basic facts.

Some people say the Igbos are known for this or that awful thing every other day on this forum and many have listed many of the negative things they claim the Igbos exemplify in this very thread (just see babapupa or Eko Ile's posts) and yet the only way anybody would know anything different from what they claim is when people come in here and correct them.

So take correction. This bizarre idea of Esan as the only hardworking group in Edo state is the work of your overactive imagination and/or your delusional insecurity.

What's really bizarre about this is your idea of using the Esan for your nonsense idea. The Esan are basically the closest thing to a Bini you can find on the planet. Culturally, linguistically, and in every other conceivable way. The Esan came about when people left Benin approximately 500 years ago. 

And with crooks in Esan like Tony Anenih who are just as bad as the worst Bini crooks like Lucky Igbinedion, it's silly to hear about them being the "only hardworking" Edos.

I suppose Stephen Oronsaye worked his way up to being the top civil servant in the country and worked to reform the civil service because he forgot he was a Bini. I guess Gabriel Igbinedion forgot he was a Bini when he was working to start up all those businesses. I guess having a Bini as chairman of the board of directors of UBA or having a Bini as First Bank's investment boss is just a consequence of people thinking those people were Esan.

I guess there are so many Bini people as faculty in departments of Nigerian universities outside of Edo state because people forgot those individuals were Binis and incapable of any hard work. I guess there are Binis as faculty in universities outside Nigeria or as researchers in research institutes outside of Nigeria because of their aversion to hard work and success.

Read the whole of this thread and acquaint yourself with reality:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-557357.0.html#msg7225572

Next, your rumor mongering self will tell me Esan are holding up the whole of Edo state.

It would be amusing to me that you went and did the very thing you accused of others of doing if the hypocrisy wasn't so glaring and blatant. I don't know about the other people in this thread, but in your case it's a VERY clear sign of insecurity when you feel the need to put down another group (a group you probably know next to nothing about) to feel good about your own group's success. There is no bounce back/resilience gene. The Binis don't have it. The Igbo don't have it. The Germans, the Jews, the Chinese, etc. Nobody. There is nothing about the Binis doing better than many other groups in Nigeria now after being invaded and reduced to peasantry and later being selectively and deliberately discriminated against by the Western region government that is particularly amazing. The rise of the Igbos back to where they were is only as things are supposed to be, like a spring returning to its full extent after being compressed, and I don't see how things could be otherwise, yet some people are babbling about DNA.

This dunce can't keep from showing how clueless he is.

Aniekan Ebiefung

Born:

place: Nigeria

B.S. Math/Statisitcs (1982) University of Calabar, Nigeria; M.S. Mathematics (1987) Howard University

Ph.D. (1991) Clemson University
thesis: The Generalized Linear Complementarity Problem and it's Applications; Advisor:

University of Chattanooga Foundation Professor of Mathematics at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.

personal or universal URL: http://www.utc.edu/~aebiefun/
email: aebiefun@cecasun.utc.edu

Dr. Aniekan Ebiefung is a University of Chattanooga Foundation Professor of Mathematics at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. He started his career at UTC as an assistant professor of Mathematics on August 1, 1991. He was awarded the UC Foundation Professorship in 1993, promoted to an Associate Professor in 1996, and to Full Professor in 2001.

Professor Ebiefung holds Bachelors of Science degree in Mathematics and Statistics (with First Class Honors) from the University of Calabar, Masters of Science in Mathematics from Howard University, and Ph.D in Mathematical Sciences from Clemson University (1988-1991). He has held faculty positions at Calabar Polytechnic; University of Cross River State; Federal University of Technology, Owerri; Howard University, Clemson University, and University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.

He has received may research and teaching awards. These include the 1993 Oakridge Associated Universities Junior Faculty Enhancement Award in Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Chattanooga Foundation Professorship 1993-4, Student Government Association Outstanding Professor Award 1993-4, and the 1998 Southeastern Inform Best Paper Award in Quantitative Theory and Methods Track.

RESEARCH INTERESTS

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a facebook picture of women at the Edo National Association convention in the U.S.

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"Ugha Ozolua Ni Baromi Eko (Ozolua Ni baromi Eko's Temple) at the Royal Palace Benin-City.


Great Benin's Coat of arms at the Top of the Temple.Elephant on the right and leopard on the left,both of them holding Ada and Eben."

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A building part and parcel of a Chief's Palace.

"A courtyard in a Chief's Palace photographed in 1897 by R.K.Granvile.Architecture is one way of marking elite status.Chiefs own large compounds,the exterior walls of which are decorated with horizontal ridge designs(Agben).Formerly,clay bas-relief designs of animals,warriors, and other symbols of power were an important decoration,but today this is rarely found."- Paula Girshick Ben-Amos

From that same facebook group:


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A courtyard at the Oba's Palace in Benin (the rebuilt palace)




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The front of the Isekhure of Benin's Palace





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"One of the special forms of decorating a floor in Benin is an embedded floor with cowrie shells, a pre-colonial type of currency.This design is of an Oba with mudfish legs holding crocodiles."



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Entrance to the rebuilt Oba's palace in Benin.



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"A courtyard or Ote-eghodo at Ogiamien's palace,the only building that was spared the barbaric burning and looting of Great Benin in 1897 by the British."




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"A Temple at Chief Ogiamien's Palace.Please Note aspects of the wall which are unique to Great Benin."

More photos found at the facebook group "THE IMPERIAL ARCHITECTURE OF GREAT BENIN" by Enosakhare Idubor:


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"A Massive door that leads to a long corridor at the Eguae Oba N'Edo(Royal Palace of Benin)"




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Picture from 1897 showing part of the palace interior and showing carved ivory tusks.






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An 1897 picture of one of the courtyards of the royal palace.






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A part of the external part of the Oba of Benin's Palace before it was destroyed.




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A photo of one of the undamaged/un-eroded Benin iya (fortifications)

FACE:
Very interesting. Enough artworks to start a massive museum. I think the Edo govt should start trying to recover all the works and restoring old buildings if any is still standing with a view to starting a tourist museum - a good money spinner.

There already is a museum in Benin city, but in my personal opinion the very best works are all outside of Nigeria. The issue of returning the works from museums has been going on for a while but not that much progress was really made beyond getting those now in Benin.

And I think there are only one or two original buildings that were spared burning/still standing. Those are restored. And several palaces and buildings were rebuilt based on knowledge of those who were familiar with them before the invasion. The Oba's palace was rebuilt but it is only a third or fourth of the size of the 1897 palace, and even the 1897 palace was smaller than the size of the palace in the 1600s, before much of it was burnt down in a civil war in earlier times.

. . .