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arsenefc:
So you believe SEFAGO when he says he has membership with MENSA?

Really?

SEFAGO clarified that he made that up as a joke in some thread where we were talking about Obama appointing a Nigerian doctor/professor to a certain position. But I don't think membership with MENSA would be difficult to obtain, so there was nothing that seemed extraordinary or unbelievable about the claim and no reason that I would have assumed that it was a joke right away. As for your claim about Princeton, it wasn't all that obvious that it was a joke, in my opinion.

ekt_bear:
To address the point.

I'm not saying 285 is some sort of insane score. I don't know either way; I don't know what the mean and SD of the JAMB scores even look like, never took JAMB, didn't go through the Nigerian education system.

What I do know is that 285 is generally a high enough score to go to somewhere reasonable in Nigeria for university.

Draw your own conclusions from that fact.

I got the impression that fstranger went to a university in the U.S. - specifically, in New Jersey. In that thread that I linked you to above (and one other thread), he said very explicitly that he doesn't think much of Nigerian universities. I don't think someone who graduated from UI, Uniben, UNN, UniLAG, etc. would go out of their way to diss Nigerian universities.

arsenefc:
Remember that was with Blazay. I just try to have fun with Blazay.

Blazay or becomrich, who takes them seriously anyway. Put it into context

AT Physics, who calls themselves a hardcore scientist? ROFLMAO

Come on, you need to be able to separate fact from fiction.


PS. LOL. Who is everyone who knows "I am smart?" Shouldnt that have put that post into context for you?

lol, ok. Got it now.

ekt_bear:
Can we get a link to this thread? Then we can judge independently if he was misleading people into thinking he has a connection to Princeton.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-613331.64.html#msg7833932

I don't know how hard it is to get a 285; I have no experience with JAMB myself. I do know that if you get a score above 250-260 or so, you are reasonably assured of getting into somewhere in Nigeria. Anyway, I drew some inferences based on this line of reasoning. And so I am skeptical.

I don't know what the exact scale is on JAMB, but I've seen other people on here mention scores well above 300 as being high scores. Therefore, I didn't see how it would be so difficult for anyone who was very smart to score 285 on that test. As for the age, from my experience, friends I had in high school that graduated high school at 16 or 17 scored pretty high on their SAT from what they told me (although I have to admit that most of my friends were smart, so it might not be a representative sample of all 16 or 17 year olds that graduate high school at that age) or they went to pretty prestigious universities.

arsenefc:
Awwwww, far too kind of you.

You need not have shown face, but glad to help shut Ekt Bear for life. Very dishonest dude. Wouldn't be surprised if we later found out  he does yahoo-yahoo on the side.

Anyway, Honesty is always the best policy!

lol, I wasn't trying to really join sides. Just wanted to ask about the 285 on JAMB at 16 thing, and I remembered what the real origin of the "Princeton medical school" story was, so I figured that I might as well state it.

PS: I didnt say I graduated from there. The thread was just about Buildings remember and I posted different buildings of different schools and you assumed  so many things, which I corrected . SEFAGO was on the thread as well.

Anyway, Where is Ekt Bear? Lets focus on Pum-pum

Well this is news to me, that you don't claim to have graduated from Princeton.

You didn't say you graduated from Princeton in that thread, but you definitely said it elsewhere:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-564910.0.html#msg7300190

strangerf: ^^^

I am smart
I am serious

Everyone knows I am smart
I graduated form the only Ivy in NJ
I am smart
At least, i am smarter than you

THE GUY IS A   N  I  G  E  R  I  E  N       NOT A N  I  G  E  R  I A   N

Oniranu ara galatia

strangerf: I did not major in English like you

I am a hardcore scientist.


Again, I am smarter than you.

You could not have survived an Ivy, not for abokis like you anyway!

Isn't Princeton the only Ivy in New Jersey? I don't know how else to read that statement.

lol, funny how derailed threads are often more interesting than non-derailed threads.  . .

@ ekt bear, I was the one who assumed fstranger was studying medicine at Princeton (I don't know much about Princeton) in an unrelated discussion we had because he posted pictures of Princeton and then Sagamite jumped on that for their e-feud. Fstranger said he had already graduated from Princeton, not that he was studying medicine there.


Also, what's so impossible about 285 on JAMB at 16? Is this JAMB so insanely hard or something?

Hmmm. . .does everybody still get emails notifying them when someone has responded to a thread they've posted in?

Anyway, I'm sure he'll be back with more stories and fables. . .

musiwa,,.:
To show you how they discriminate in nigeria. Old liberty stadium ibadan and Ogbe stadium benine  have not be upgraded while the Enugu stadium, kano , calabar , bauchi  have been upgraded



liberty stadium ibadan


Samuel Ogbemudia stadium

http://website.edostate.gov.ng/node/960

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChatAfrikSports/message/2100


Hmmm. . .

nanidee:
U̶̲̥̅̊

What's the cause of this messed up symbol?

Let's agree to disagree then.

udezue:
@Physique, since a mere 45,000 are not needed in Edo state why can't Edo state cede Igbanke land to Delta state without the Igbanke clamoring for it? It should be that simple. I am sure Igbanke leaders are also to be blamed because there is no history of them protesting their inclusion as part of Edo state hence making them a tiny minority. The Bini from what I know also only remember them during elections then dump them. They are highly marginalized and neglected and receive a lot of services from neighboring Delta North instead of Edo. Why is Edo state not willing to simple create a separate Igbanke LGA instead of lumping them with other groups? I am sure if Igbanke ppl asserted their Igbo identity more they won't be in their current situation. 

I agree with most of what you said actually, especially the last part.

Government ignoring large communities in Edo south, Edo central or Edo north is not based on ethnicity though. I think that's a misconception.

If it was up to me, Igbanke would be ceded, but the different factions need to reach an agreement, and make it clear unanimously to the government of Edo state that they really prefer to leave. Only the actual Igbanke people can resolve where they stand and make it unequivocally and indisputably clear to others.

lol, tpia, home training is a very very American term. That term is all over American media and I've heard the phrase used in real life. I think this is a coincidence.

^^^
I really don't understand that argument and I mean that sincerely. If you are claiming Ojukwu was responsible for his release, and not Ironsi or Gowon, then are you also claiming Ojukwu was responsible for NOT releasing him earlier?

Ironsi was the first to pardon Awolowo, but this was right before Ironsi was killed, so it never got out and became "official". Later Gowon did it "officially".

Why exactly did Ojukwu wait until Gowon said it was okay before he did anything? What is it exactly that you and Dede1 are seeing in that situation that I'm missing? Because I don't see the merit of that argument.

The story sounds too weird and out of place to be believed, in my opinion. Indonesia's journalists and ministers are not infallible and the NNPC would not put out such a strong statement against the story if there was some truth to it.

Good news.

Indonesian journalism is crap, apparently. Either that or that minister (Panggah Susanto) takes hard drugs.

Kilode?!:
@PhysicsQED, long time bro.

Let me address your "concern"

If you read my reference to Bendelites and their "Kp" sound/stress, you will notice I made an allowance for their usage of "K". it was kinda "tongue in cheek" but I recognized their usage of that sound.

Now, it is not my place to say how other people's accent or language should sound,  I was primarily speaking to Yorubas. I do recognize the different pronunciation and wanted to explain the difference to those who might think that "Kp" is standard Yoruba usage.

I did not say "kp" is wrong in Edo, Itshekiris, or other language groups with similar sounds. I was speaking primarily about Yoruba usage since this is a topic about Yoruba Mythology.

Yeah, I see that it was tongue in cheek, I was just pointing out that the argument that built up over the specific word "akpata" was based on a misunderstanding.

And you were right to point out the proper spelling of  Shakpana, of course, since it s a Yoruba mythology thread.

lol, what?

"No home training" is a VERY American phrase and "home training" is a VERY American term.

Some people were  misreading what exotik was saying about akpata because they actually thought he came to a Yoruba culture thread to tell Yoruba speaking posters how their language works.   

Nothing could be further from the truth. He merely tried to correct an erroneous assumption about "akpata" (an Edo name) but others kept trying to string him along into an argument about Yoruba words that he clearly had no interest in.

The old story that Kilode mentioned (there's one version of it here: http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5409495-146/story.csp) is this:

The most sophisticated puns I know are the Yoruba ones. Perhaps every speaker of the language knows the simplest examples such as "Nkan t'a wa lo si Sokoto wa l'apo sokoto": What we seek in the city of Sokoto is actually in our trousers (the [Yoruba] word for trousers is "sokoto".

But in the hands of such orators as Samuel Ladoke Akintola (premier of the Western Region until his death in the 1966 coup), meaning migrates farther and sharper, casting a shimmering light on the mind. Once, the story goes, Akintola met someone named Akpata (an Edo cognate of Yoruba, "Apata," which means rock). He asked the fellow to spell his name, and he began, "A, K, " Akintola stopped him with an impatiently upraised hand: "Ki ni'ke nwa ninu apata?" (What is K doing in Apata?).

The triple-entendre here is that the Yoruba hearers would have known that only Bendelites spell Apata with a K, that "ike" (hump) sounds like the letter K, and that no solid rock worth the name should have a hump. Embedded in all this was perhaps a tribalistic dig as well, as Akintola was something of a Yoruba chauvinist.

This assumption about "akpata" being a Bendelite "version" of the Yoruba word "apata" is false. False or real cognates that are derived from the same source do not necessarily mean that the word is derived from one particular modern source (Yoruba) according to one's particular biases or fancy. Take the word "rock" or "stone" in Yoruba and Igbo. In Yoruba, a rock is "òkúta". In Igbo, a rock is "okwute". This doesn't necessarily mean that one group took the word from the other and modified it. It could be a sufficiently ancient word that it existed when these groups were not distinct.

And the story itself is probably not true, regardless of how witty Akintola was. Had he actually said that, the "Akpata" in question would probably have explained that akpata was not a version of apata anymore than apata was a version of "akpata" and exposed Akintola's (or whoever made the statement) ignorance, thus making the whole joke without basis and making Akintola (or whoever) look ill-informed. Of course the story is meant to be a joke, but it's based on a faulty assumption.

Dede1:
Please change NCNC to NNDP. It was UPGA (NCNC and AG) against NNA (NPC, NNDP, NDC and Middle Belt United Party)

I think it makes sense as it is. I'm not sure we're referring to the same year. I had individuals like Remi Fani-Kayode in mind when I was thinking of NCNC supporters of Akintola.

Awo was to be sent to Nigerian prisons in Bauchi where a plan has already been hashed for the Hausa, Kanuri or Fulani prison officials to see to death of Awo in prison. However, some Igbo officials in high places resolved to send Awo to the east.

Yeah,  I think you're right actually. I had earlier read somewhere else where he specifically credited Frank Giwa-Osagie with saving him from being poisoned, but there was more to it than just that:

http://books.google.com/books?id=mNNaXZgi0FsC&pg=PA141

(from p. 141 - 147)

It seems Awolowo gave Zik credit as soon as he found out.

It is very laughable to a conjecture that suggests Gowon released Awo from prison. During the era in discuss, Gowon and Nigeria have no iota of authority to send post-office mail to eastern region talk less of issuing an order to release Awo from prison. Even Gowon’s position as a doorman was not recognized in eastern region of Nigeria.

I did not conjecture that Gowon released Awo from prison.

Gowon pardoned Awo, and he had been kept in prison prior to that.

Ironsi was to carry out this pardon earlier, but of course, he was killed.

Awolowo was jailed because the AG was arming itself. The "conspiracy" aspect of it is the claim that he actually wanted to overthrow the federal government at all costs in order to install himself as a dictator, which seems very ridiculous. Whether that conspiracy was really only a "northern" conspiracy is questionable.

Instead of Akintola to be removed, or his supporters arrested after the debacle in Ibadan with the throwing of chairs at the house of assembly meeting etc., vocal NPC and NCNC members supported Akintola. It would be strange therefore for Awolowo to see NCNC members as supporting him or looking out for his interests.

Awolowo credited the then director of Nigerian prisons (who was not from the Eastern region) with his transfer from a prison in the north to Calabar prison. Later, Ironsi was the one who was to release Awolowo, but he was killed before his directive could be implemented. Gowon carried this out and got the "credit" for releasing Awolowo. The claim that Ojukwu released Awolowo is strange, considering that he did not do anything in this regard until Gowon announced that Awolowo was to be pardoned. The "credit" for releasing Awolowo would/should have actually gone to Ironsi,  but he was murdered.

There had better be a denial of this nonsense in the next few days from the GEJ camp.

The following states were described as healthy and therefore can pay the 30-per-cent incremental wage bill. They are: Abia, Akwa Ibom, Anambra, Bauchi, Bayelsa, Delta, Gombe, Imo, Jigawa, Kebbi, Kwara, Lagos, Nasarawa, Oyo and Rivers.

Is there anyone here living in Bauchi, Gombe, Jigawa, or Kebbi that can explain to an ignorant outsider like myself where all their revenue is coming from? I know we have other resources besides oil, but the economic and other statistics for these states are consistently pitiful.

Perhaps the real reason why they can pay the minimum wage more easily is because there are fewer people legally or formally employed there. . .

fados4sure:
Where did you get that from or you just give result based on what you see?
Two weeks back, the IMF and UNO gave a report about MDG and said 3 countries may likely attain MDG in less than or equal to 2015 and the countries are Ghana, Zambia and Ethiopia,
They also gave a report that the north-eastern Nigeria is the poorest part of Nigeria follow by the north western Nigeria and also said the three most urbanized cities in Nigeria are Lagos, Ibadan and Benin why in Africa, Lagos took number one Ibadan came number three why Benin city came number nineteen,
If you are giving any report, kindly back it with fact,

Any link to the part in bold?

And maybe you meant sub-saharan africa excluding south africa. Or maybe you meant west africa?

Not to be a pedant, but

"loose" ---> "lose"

The following states were described as healthy and therefore can pay the 30-per-cent incremental wage bill. They are: Abia, Akwa Ibom, Anambra, Bauchi, Bayelsa, Delta, Gombe, Imo, Jigawa, Kebbi, Kwara, Lagos, Nasarawa, Oyo and Rivers.

Hmmm. . .


Something is being left out of this report.