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https://www.britishmuseum.org/collectionimages/AN00128/AN00128881_001_l.jpg

Materials
brass

Techniques
embossed
lost-wax cast

Place
Found/Acquired Benin City
(Africa,Nigeria,Edo State,Benin City)

Ethnic group
Made by Edo

Description
Plate, plaque, disc (with embossed figure between two leopards) made of brass.

Acquisition date
1897

Acquisition name
Purchased from Maj W A Crawford Cockburn

Acquisition notes
Benin City Expedition 1897

https://www.britishmuseum.org/collectionimages/AN00128/AN00128879_001_l.jpg

Description
Plate, plaque, disc (with embossed figure with horns and staff) made of brass.

Acquisition date
1897

Acquisition name
Purchased from Maj W A Crawford Cockburn

Acquisition notes
Benin City Expedition 1897

https://www.britishmuseum.org/collectionimages/AN00129/AN00129414_001_l.jpg

Description
A conical gilded bronze pendant of a single sheet of metal edges abutted to join; with a small gilded loop at the top below which gilded bronze wire has been wound round about a quarter of its length ending in decorative spiral; the gilding is in a pattern of interlocking scallops with dotted scallops at the base of each; there is a double ridge border at the base.

Dimensions
Height: 17.75 centimetres
Width: 2.5 centimetres

Condition
Fair; join of metal apart at base; a crack half way around about a third of the way up; gilding is wearing away.

Curator's comments
Eth.Doc.121.

Acquisition date
1993

Acquisition name
Bequeathed by William Buller Fagg

https://www.britishmuseum.org/collectionimages/AN00129/AN00129204_001_l.jpg

Description
A hemispherical bronze vessel with conical central point (on base?); around the edge a wide band with three-line ribbon decoration looped above and below in figure-of-eight; inside hollow with four raised points each of different shape.

Dimensions
Height: 8 centimetres
Diameter: 14 centimetres

https://images2.bridgemanart.com/cgi-bin/bridgemanImage.cgi/400wm.HST.9773710.7055475/170600.jpg

Plaque (ama) with Court Retainer, Benin City, Nigeria, middle period, 1550-1680 (bronze), Edo Culture


[Note that the dates are approximate/not definite, as actual dating was not carried out except on a few pieces, and instead the date of the writings from visitors describing the art is one of the main pieces of evidence usually used to determine the age of the different pieces of art.]

https://imageshack.us/a/img100/500/img20120516084119.jpg

This is from the book Treasures of Ancient Nigeria.

https://www.britishmuseum.org/collectionimages/AN00129/AN00129137_001_l.jpg

Description
Bronze pendant in form of equestrian figure on a lunate or crescentic plate, from which five chains with bells, a bronze mounted stone charm and an anthropomorphic snuff-bottle hang.

Dimensions
Width: 5.8 inches


Curator's comments
Register 1949:
Bronze Pendant in form of Equestrian figure on a lunate form, from which 5 chains with bells , a bronze mounted stone charm & an anthropomorphic snuff-bottle hang.
"Formerly in the possession of the first District Commisioner at Benin after the 1897 expedition, & then of his stepdaughter, Mrs Ossiakovska."

BENIN, NIGERIA.



[The notes on this object on the British museum website suggest it has a mixture of two styles - the Benin style and the "Lower Niger Bronze Industry" style, with only the snuff bottle having the Benin style and the rest of the object being the "Lower Niger Bronze Industry" style.]

https://horniman.keepthinking.net/media-collection//176/media-176007/feature.jpg

I already posted an image of this plaque, but this image has better lighting.

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Probably a snake. I'm not sure if the markings on the body are just snakeskin patterns or if they represent something.

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https://www.art-vs.com/images/product_images/popup_images/3149_0.jpg

https://www.art-vs.com/images/product_images/popup_images/3149_1.jpg

A Portuguese (or other European) holding a manilla.

afam4eva: Abagworo is looking at spelling rather than the pronunciation of these names.

Ani is an Igbo name too. never knew it was an Itsekiri name.

Oyibo is also an Igbo name

Oritsejafor sounds like Afor or Ejiofor

......

I see. Thanks.

Although some people might be less "race conscious" in parts of Nigeria since Nigeria is a wholly black country except for a few foreign nationals and a few immigrants, I have to say that the white or pale skinned bride and groom in some of these cakes are still a bit confusing/surprising. Even if those getting married have no problem with these whiter skinned figures because they don't care about the skin color (which is fine - it's just a cake, after all), wouldn't it still feel (for the bride and groom and the guests) like the figures were less representative of the people actually getting married?

Anyway, some of these cakes looked really nice and creative. Kudos to the cake makers.

Abagworo: Uduaghan is in no way an Igbo name. What I wrote was Igbo-like or Igbo sounding. The "Yoruba" or "Edo" names are no surprise. Igbos do bare "Uduagha" and pronounce it with an underlying "n" like "Uduaghan". I've seen such names among the Itsekiri as Ani , Eyeoyibo, Oritsejafor, Ayomike, Amajuoritse. If you take a close look at the names you'll observe they are obviously not Igbo but look like one.

How many Igbo have you come across or read about with the name "Uduagha" and are they from Delta state by any chance, or are they from further east?

Also, what Igbo names are similar to the ones in bold? Just curious.

@ belltwelve, this stuff has been discussed before. It's not that hard to figure out who the aboriginal inhabitants of Ife were said to be in some accounts:

https://www.nairaland.com/894542/there-experts-traditional-igbo-religion/1#11458366

https://www.nairaland.com/979183/ask-pleep-nairaland-resident-history/1#11492076

If one wants to find out more about the aboriginal inhabitants of Ife besides what has been written in books or what is available in articles, their best bet is probably to go to Ondo state, and speak with Ugbo elders and traditional rulers there directly.

If this next season is as good as the previous two seasons, this show will probably be considered (by all those that have seen it) one of the best shows ever made by the time it's done.

wiegraf: Lucky you, if only I could get a refund for my time from certain studios



You sir, have near impeccable taste. Almost as good as mine (true impeccability)

lol

With time, some of those have aged well, other not so much. SAC 1 I found boring. Also, I thought the xters a bit hypocritical (probably not a fair assessment), and I took it as trying to appear derper than it actually was. I probably thought it a bit overrated, hence the slightly silly rebel-against-the-man score. But even now I wouldn't grade it past 6. SAC 2 was all meh-ish as well for me till the rather spectacular final arc. That was truly beautiful, so I could grade SAC 2 maybe a 7, but it would get that score only because of that arc.

Shamploo was just meh for me, nothing new or particularly special. Also cowboy bepop trounced it mercilessly in every single category, so maybe a bit of disappointment as well. To be fair, cowboy bepop I think is a bit special, tough task to ask him to top that. It probably was a fluke actually

I see. Well, I enjoyed both SAC 1 & 2, and of course, I liked all of Samurai Champloo and would rate it at least an 8, though I agree that Cowboy Bebop is better in every aspect.

Tenge I've seen to a point, then read manga past the point the anime stopped at. Oh great!'s writing clusterbeep and excellent art work, a style comparable bleach's kubo
. The writing, it's like they are on some really strong drugs... But I'd say Great is better, definitely. He at least puts backgrounds in his work (good ones too, lazy a$$ kubo), and is perhaps more mature and ambitious . Have you read air blade, oh great's other famous manga? I'm not sure if there's an anime adaptation. It's in the spirit of tenjou.

Lain, paranoia agent I've always wanted to see. Trigun I usually ignored. Thanks, will give them a try.

I haven't read Air Blade (or many manga at all, really) and hadn't heard of it at all until you mentioned it. If they do make an anime adaptation, I'll check it out.

If you haven't seen planetes, perhaps you should. I know, garbage men in space, but at least it's the same writer/director crew from code geass. It is NOTHING like geass, but just as brilliant (for any others, if it's action or constant entertainment a la geass you want to see, ignore this recommendation). Geass and planetes are arguably my all time favorites. They also worked together on infinite ryvius, which is something like lord of the flies in space, but ryvius is nothing too fancy (though I enjoyed it).
And the original mangaka of planetes has a manga called
vinland saga, very good, very very violent. Vikings...

Thanks for this recommendation. I'll check out Planetes in the near future after I finish up with the other stuff I'm watching.

Btw, you've played ff tactics?

No, I haven't played that game. I just looked up the quote in your signature and from that I found out who Wiegraf was, so I figured you were probably into RPGs and so you might like Sword Art Online. I played a lot of FF games back when I had more time, and a lot of Squaresoft games besides, but not that particular game. Though, from what I've read about it online, it seems like I missed out on a great game.

wiegraf: no, I haven't seen anything new in a bit (even code geass ova, gundam unicorn, eva movies, last exile 2 (have you seen, is it as good as 1? I saw opening ep or 2, sort of glad to see Dio alive)..... I could go on and on ). Could you tell me what's worth seeing from maybe 2010?

Black lagoon I dropped. Everyone I know that's seen it calls me baka as a result. I guess I'll have pick it up again and see what I'm missing.

Oh yes, durarara is in the spirit of baccano, just maybe less violent.

Yeah, 3x3 has a bit (note: bit) of the studio ghibly feel, I think that's why I like it, but it's not particularly violent or too different.

I didn't even know there was a second series of Last Exile. I assumed they ended with one series and I hadn't even bothered to check. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I haven't watched the other anime that you mentioned either, unfortunately so I can't give any opinions on those.

I don't know about anime specifically from 2010, but some shows that I've watched over the last two years in my free time that I liked a lot and would recommend are:

Steins Gate

xxxHolic

Twelve Kingdoms

Great Teacher Onizuka <- I know this is an old series, but I only found out about it last year. I thought it was hilarious and enjoyed it a lot.

Occult Academy

Gankutsuou (The Count of Monte Cristo) <- though of course, I prefer the classic book that it's based on, I thought this was a good adaptation and had an interesting visual style

Hyouka

Katanagatari

Eden of the East

Another

And I'm currently watching Sword Art Online and Mirai Nikki, both of which I'm liking a lot.

ogugua88: End of the month. October 29-31.

Thanks.

So when is it taking place?

This thread should be moved to the jokes section.

Eko Ile: Going by your reasoning, it means the same odds you attributed to him is irrelevant and inconsequential since according to you, its anybody's game. ..so why talk about odds? Sounds like you are trying to have it both ways.

It's not really "anybody's" game, but yeah, point taken. I just don't think it's as unlikely as you believe it is.

ekt_bear: 20:1 odds seem pretty good to you?

Those are terrible odds.

Eko Ile: ashebe almost at the bottom of the list is good odds to you? Is this a joke or sarcasm...?

Well I think Achebe's odds are pretty good relative to the rest of the list below him. True there are 23 others ahead of him in consideration (if one excludes Bob Dylan, who can't possibly win) on that particular list, but it's not like they're just going to automatically pick whoever is absolutely the most popular contender or most favored that year in the eyes of the general public. They never seem to do that.

http://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/awards/nobel-prize-in-literature/2012-nobel-prize-in-literature-e216294418

Achebe's odds are pretty good actually, if one is a betting man. No reason he couldn't win it tomorrow. (I realize there are some names on that list that shouldn't be there, but apart from a few strange inclusions, I would say that that's actually a pretty good list and the odds given there for each writer generally make sense.)

LightningLord: @ves,
This isn't everything I've seen, but a lot of my favs are there, and ranked. And not too many never ending shonen around anyways

http://myanimelist.net/animelist/whatanimu

That's a long and a good list. I probably haven't watched that many anime, but a lot of my favorites are on that list (Neon Genesis, Cowboy Bebop, Last Exile, Mushishi, Fullmetal Alchemist, FLCL, Mobile Suit Gundam 00, and some others) and I agree with your ratings for most of the ones there that I have seen, but did you really think Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex was only a 4/10 and Samurai Champloo was only a 6/10? Just a bit surprised. Also, I can recommend watching Serial Experiments Lain, Tenjho Tenge, Trigun and Paranoia Agent if you're looking to add any more great anime to that list.

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wiegraf: My inability to focus probably got in the way, 3x3 eyes is probably one of the softer I recommended as far as violence is concerned. Looking at that list, I'd say they are more, what word to use... disturbing (still can't think of a better term) than violent shonen-like. I suppose something like s-cryed or gun x sword would qualify as violent, they each have a monster of the week (and are directed by oga goro from code geass, does code geass qualify as violent?).
Then again, they are also more or else regular shonen which are sort of ubiquitous. Stand out, as far as having a different feel and being fairly violent I would think would be shigurui, maybe baccano (def different, well, seinen at least, I'm just not a huge fan, but it's undeniably good). 3x3 eyes does have its charm though, you could say it has its own unique feel, and the prerequisite hapless immortal violently dying rather creatively again, and again, lol (personally, I'd rather watch 3x3 over say baccano, but I can't say it's the more violent).

Others violent, fairly disturbing,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpse_Princess
Is a strange beast, didn't pick up for me till later episodes, when it did though it did well. has it's unique feel too, fairly violent, some great action scenes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birdy_the_Mighty
Never really grabbed me as far story is concerned. Action scenes different, but perhaps the best I've seen. Some are just ridiculous

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga-rei
Never finished this, can't remember why, story was meh I guess. action? violence? Has one of the best opening episodes I've seen as far those 2 categories were concerned, and sort of maintained the pace.



I got the kip thorne book you reccommended a while back, thanks, its been useful, I hope to digest it properly soon enough

Glad you liked the Kip Thorne book and thanks for the other suggestions as far as other anime to check out. I wouldn't really consider Code Geass "violent" although there is clearly combat and violence. It's not really more violent than most anime that have some combat in them. Still one of my favorite anime ever though - the story/writing is just brilliant. The only anime that you mentioned in this post that I've watched so far are Baccano and Code Geass, both of which I liked a lot. I'll try to look at those other ones. Also, I watched the first 2 episodes of 3*3 eyes yesterday. It had an interesting start, although it hasn't really impressed me like Mnemosyne did.

Getting back to the subject of violent anime, Durarara is a great anime that is sometimes violent and has great writing/storylines.

Another anime I liked that is pretty violent at times is Black Lagoon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lagoon

I also noticed your username is an RPG reference. Are you watching Sword Art Online by any chance?

It's a pretty good show.

ogbeche77: Check Ur post again.. You quoted 3 idiots not 300...

Well I quoted where afam4eva disagreed with my suggestion that 300 was overrated. His statement is on p.7 and my quote of his statement is on this page.

Glad you and some other people agree on 300 being over hyped. I knew I couldn't be the only one that saw past the hype.

I definitely agree that Inception is not over hyped. That was a really great movie.