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CultureRe: The Afro-brazilian (saro) Descendants Of Lagos State - Our History by PhysicsQED(m): 7:59pm On Jul 17, 2012
Andre Uweh: Are you just spreading falsehood or simply turning logic upside down.
He just hasn't read anything and is going off pure speculation.
LiteratureRe: Nairaland's Literary & Debating Day - You Are Cordially Invited! by PhysicsQED(m): 7:50pm On Jul 17, 2012
pshaw
PoliticsRe: Is Satan Really A Black Man? by PhysicsQED(m): 7:48pm On Jul 17, 2012
what a dumb thread
Foreign AffairsRe: Let's Have Your Questions Here: Ask A Cameroonian? by PhysicsQED(m): 7:43pm On Jul 17, 2012
How are the pygmies treated in Cameroon?

I got the impression that people were discriminating against them.
CultureRe: Are There Any Experts On Traditional Igbo Religion? by PhysicsQED(m): 5:07am On Jul 17, 2012
Ptolomeus: Again I ask a question that has not responded.

According to Yoruba mythology, when Oduduwa founded the city of Ife, Oduduwa began Orishanla disputes with the King (Obi) of the Igbo. These conflicts led to repeated clashes between the two armies. These wars, which end with the victory of Oduduwa, is considered by many historians as a recreation of what was the struggle of both kingdoms Igbo and Ife for supremacy.
The ceremonies are conducted in Ile Ife Orishanla in commemoration of these historical events.
Initially, these ceremonies lasted nine days, but now reduced to five days a week Yoruba according to four days, then the ceremonies begin and end on the day consecrated to Orishanla.

The main temple was Egigbo Oguiyán. His name is a contraction of the phrase "je Iyan Orissa Orisajiyán or Orisaguiyán and that the name is related to the option of eating inhame (Iyan).

For its part, the name of Obatala (Oba t'ala) means king of white cloth.
Those people called the Igbo are the Ugbo and they are still around. They are Yoruba. The Yoruba sometimes switch the letter "u" and the letter "i" in words. For example, Ufe refers to the same place as Ife but some Yoruba call it Ufe. The similarity in name between the Igbo/Ugbo subgroup of the Yoruba and the Igbo ethnic group to the east seems like a coincidence.
CultureRe: The Afro-brazilian (saro) Descendants Of Lagos State - Our History by PhysicsQED(m): 3:01am On Jul 17, 2012
The Niger river and its offshoots were used for trading in precolonial times. There was nothing stopping Nupes, Igalas, and other people further inland from getting goods or people to the coast.

Bonny was also a major slave exporting center and some of the slaves sold there were from the hinterland.
PoliticsRe: Attah Igala (Aliyu Obaje) Is Dead by PhysicsQED(m): 12:57am On Jul 17, 2012
Youngsage: Reallyhuh Wake up man, that refers to UNILAG only in your dreams.
Ok, whatever.
PoliticsRe: Attah Igala (Aliyu Obaje) Is Dead by PhysicsQED(m): 12:49am On Jul 17, 2012
ifeci: Pls where is Moshood Abiola University again? can't find it on the internet.
If you're not being sarcastic, that refers to the University of Lagos aka Unilag.
PoliticsRe: Attah Igala (Aliyu Obaje) Is Dead by PhysicsQED(m): 12:11am On Jul 17, 2012
RIP
Music/RadioRe: Naeto C Ft D'banj - Tony Montana (Remix) ~ (Hot Jam!!!) by PhysicsQED(m):
lmao. . .Tony Montana?

What's with rappers and that Scarface movie? Tony Montana was just a movie character and real life gangsters are mostly losers.

I hope the next generation of Nigerian pop stars won't start flooding their music with gangster movie references that have nothing to do with their life, their environment, or culture.
EducationRe: Make History Compulsory Subject In Schools – Onyekpe by PhysicsQED(m): 11:48am On Jul 16, 2012
ekt_bear: Landing a human being on the moon >>> sending a satellite into space, as far as accomplishments go.

Both are historic. But the former more significant, and a bigger push of existing boundaries.
lol, I think you have it exactly backwards

Anyway, getting back on topic, I think maybe the space race is something Africans could really take something valuable from to inspire them if they studied it.

I think it would be easier to justify focus on that in history textbooks than on the history of a far away nation's revolution and founding.
EducationRe: Make History Compulsory Subject In Schools – Onyekpe by PhysicsQED(m): 11:37am On Jul 16, 2012
ekt_bear: Btw, if one somehow managed to only mention Sputnik while not at all mentioning one of the more impressive achievements of mankind's history (landing on the moon)...well, that would be pretty unfortunate.

I understand that there is a latent anti-American bias among some Nigerians. But credit has to be given to great accomplishments, whether you like the country doing it or not..
Well if one has to emphasize particular events in the space race, a satellite being sent into space for the first time would be the most impressive achievement, and the one most representative of later space exploration.

The man on the moon thing was more of a political/cold war thing than anything. Kennedy himself didn't really care about space exploration and said as much.
EducationRe: Make History Compulsory Subject In Schools – Onyekpe by PhysicsQED(m): 11:28am On Jul 16, 2012
Well, I think the American revolution has to be mentioned just to explain what America is - where it came from. That revolution would only be mentioned because one wants to/has to talk about one of the most significant countries in modern times, not because the event itself demands actual historical study.
EducationRe: Make History Compulsory Subject In Schools – Onyekpe by PhysicsQED(m): 11:22am On Jul 16, 2012
ekt_bear: Speaking of West Africans.

Liberians. Would you say that they too would have no interest in the American revolution in a world history course? grin

Hehe
It depends.

I don't think Liberians, even Americo-Liberian descended Liberians, view that part of American history as really part of their history. I doubt that they would give Paul Revere, Franklin, Jefferson, Hamilton, etc. much attention or go into it in any detail. It's not like Americans go into 18th century British history in detail in world history or anything.
EducationRe: Make History Compulsory Subject In Schools – Onyekpe by PhysicsQED(m):
ekt_bear: The question is, are there some events that would/should be included in any summary of history?
Well, I'm not sure that there really are some events that should be included in any summary of world history because I don't know how they teach world history in Japan or Brazil or Indonesia or other places. All I know of is the U.S.

The French revolution, I see as something that could be given a mere footnote or sentence in a history textbook if it really must be included in all world history textbooks. The American revolution and the Bolshevik revolution could be given a bit more attention, although I don't think it's necessary to really focus on them and learn them in detail unless one has a particular interest in that country.

For example, if talking about the 60s, would the Americans landing on the moon be included?
Actually, I would put that the Soviets launched a satellite into space in the late 50s. That would convey the general idea of what was going on and it would be a more significant and representative event.

I would argue that yes, it would. And more generally, in each century, there are events that everyone would include.

I would argue further that for the 1700s, the American revolution is one such event.

So. You seem to think that the American revolution is not of interest to West Africans learning about 18th century history, I take it?
Well, I don't think it's something that would need to be studied to the point where a West African student would be doing assignments specifically over that event. Maybe a few sentences or a paragraph would be enough.
EducationRe: Make History Compulsory Subject In Schools – Onyekpe by PhysicsQED(m): 10:57am On Jul 16, 2012
Well, I don't think the French revolution was skipped, or the Bolshevik revolution in my case.

But if I recall correctly, the description of them amounted to a paragraph or two giving the briefest summary. Not something one can do a real assignment on and learn names of principal personalities, principal places and events, dates, etc.

But the point is, the world history that one learns before college isn't real world history. It's necessarily slanted. You don't learn about Mehmet Ali of Egypt, or Tipu Sultan, or Suleiman "the Magnificent" do you? How much does one read in the U.S. on Toussaint Louverture and Simon Bolivar? Not much, if anything, I think. Or Giuseppe Garibaldi? I didn't even know who he was until a year or two ago.

One can't expect a group to learn all of the events happening everywhere in the world in each century. So they have to decide which ones to include and which included ones to emphasize. I don't think the American revolution would really have any reason to be included for West Africans.
EducationRe: Make History Compulsory Subject In Schools – Onyekpe by PhysicsQED(m): 10:45am On Jul 16, 2012
ekt_bear: A world history class should discuss significant events. One of the more significant events in the 1700s was the American revolution.
He does have a point though.

Do you remember learning about the French revolution or the Bolshevik revolution or the Meiji revolution in any detail in high school or middle school?

Unless one takes an AP class on the history of some other region of the world, I don't think much information (or in some cases, any) information about significant events in those regions is covered.
EducationRe: Make History Compulsory Subject In Schools – Onyekpe by PhysicsQED(m): 9:49am On Jul 16, 2012
The most likely reasons for not making history compulsory would probably be:

- ethnic controversy (pre colonial)
- ethnic controversy (1950s through 1970s)
- accuracy
- the lack of an overall positive situation in the present day (the history textbooks would be too depressing and uninspiring).

In all honesty, these might actually be good reasons to delay making history compulsory
PoliticsRe: Where Is The Giant Of Africa??? by PhysicsQED(m): 7:26am On Jul 16, 2012
CAMEROONPRIDE: we are just lucky that there is no majority in term of rthnicity it's a status-quo between three ethnicity
lipsrsealed
PoliticsRe: Imo State And The Hand Of Midas by PhysicsQED(m): 7:08am On Jul 16, 2012
Abagworo: I've seen Julius Berger construct a house like this in Abuja. They use very large steel screws to fit the walls to the ground and join the walls too. The house was completed in 2 days.
Thanks.
PoliticsRe: Where Is The Giant Of Africa??? by PhysicsQED(m): 7:04am On Jul 16, 2012
Ileke-IdI:
^^^ You know that God is not the one that made chocolate. . . . it's a human-made.
nah

it was a religious thing

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