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Ewuro4:
I don't get the Economy's fault aspect though, for how long are we going to blame economic depression, some province are going through depression yet doesn't stop some women from being independent.

In Nigeria, we see some women whose mother sold Akara & pap /provisions in gbagi market growing up yet didn't longthroat for a made suitor and they still made it through Focus, perseverance, hard work and paid off.

Now i get you and agree fully with you

My point was that women seeing marriage as an escape route will reduce with time
Women should see themselves sufficient in themselves and not as an appendage
Thats the only way

When i said economy, i meant that in addition to unemployment there is also underemployment

For this lady.. she should move on and free the guy

As in

LOL... story that touch

Ewuro4:
*Sacarsm*

Blame it on the Alcohol as usual

I wonder what some breadwinning wives could've became if we they didn't have an Amazon role models as an example growing up?
It's imbred bro, simple as that.

Im not blaming alcohol or being sarcastic

Im saying with time, women will more and more get to depend less on men
Its inevitable

That is the modern life

Hehe
Color me Evulz but those ones dey sweet pass aswear I'm like HUH??

Those stories are funny though
He had a side chic for 8 years. We dated for 12 years.. he chose me now he has impreganted her while i am busy on my global wakawaka
Who is to blame//// the village people, MIL, the side chic etc etc abbl

Ewuro4:
Calling a man ugly and broke , yet still have no integrity to tell him the raw truth is FRAUD... Hian ladies , have some self respect, develop yourself, who says you can't be a breadwinner yourself or there's a manual that said so?

the shallow mentality that marriage will free you from shackles of poverty is the most pauperish believe I've ever heard. All the longthroat attitude won't do you any good but a slap in the end. Good Men don't respect parasitic women.

This was the same way it used to be in the West
they moved on..once women started having jobs and careers

The economy in Niigeria is still the issue

Give it time

UyiIredia:
I know. He shouldn't be allowed to misinterpret it though.

Ok.. i see your angle

Ewuro4:
Money and Good looks? As in..

I guess we'll be having more marriage 'stories that touch' on NL. Always my pleasure to read them anyway.

evulz...

Those who enter with their eyes open sha.. dem tori dey sweet

Uyi

I suggest you dont discuss scripture with masonkz
he does not believe in it anyway

masonkz:
Oh now we're going back to the topic??

We were always on the topic
The Bible angle came in with myself and Francis

You dont take store by the bible so no issue there

Afterall Marriage Equality is now allowed
That means taxes for the govt, divorce settlements now being paid by richer individuals to others.. basically the same whatnots about MARRIAGE
so lets see how it goes

The major issue people have is the seeming intolerance by th gay crowd although one could say they experienced that too for so long

Even the marriage institution itself is not as it used to be anyway

I knew you were going there

As you rightly noted, that was the custom of those times

however that was not the intent

Back to the topic.. you are not a christian so no issue there on gaylove

masonkz:
Lol.

Wouldn't there be a slave first, before you talk about freedom??

Isn't it logical to state that yes, you can have slaves, but free them after 7 years?


Anyway, here you go:

Leviticus 25:44-46a

Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life.

Exodus 21:20-21
When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money

JustKay3:
Quick question bro.Do you think supporting Arsenal and being a Wenger apologist is mutually exclusive?

Welcome Cech.

Personally I don't see Wenger signing a midfielder with what we have on our rooster,unless Arteta or Diaby/Rosicky is moved on.Coq and Wilshire we share that that DM role this season while the whole team is asked to defend collectively.

it can be

masonkz:
Christians abolishing slavery doesn't negate the fact that the bible supports it. Nor does it change the fact that the bible post I quoted some posts away, is right there in the bible.

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Show me where the bible advocates slavery
The Bible even declared a Jubilee (every 7 years) where slaves must be freed

masonkz:
The bible advocates slavery, it is quoted.

On the slavery part.. it was christians who actually abolished slavery...can u show it
The Bible all men are equal before God..both the Jew and the Greek

Infact the bible advocates many things that christians discard today all in the name of old testament and what not.

I'm gay, and no I don't see myself a Christian.

We are clear then...

No problem then

Does not change what it says

The Bible advocates submission...it is quoted

It advocates fidelity... it is quoted

Are u also a christian gay?

masonkz:
My post is stop quoting bible only when it comes to gay people!

I dont see your point

masonkz:
Interesting!. Are we talking of same bible that said the below?

1st Corinthians 14:34-35

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church

I do hope you all adhere to this, else judgement awaits you all.

:-

Adultery i know and agree with...lets leave it at that

You call it piffles but the amount of violence in the world increased drastically from the early 20th century
Nerve gas
H bomb A bomb
Now we have anthrax and terrorism...

FrancisTony:
Matthew5:17
Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fufill.

Reference to fufill - In the beginning, God made Adam and Eve to live as a Man and a Woman not a Man and many women.
Jews made their LAW to be polygamous and that's why Jesus said he didn't come to destroy but fufill it meaning their law wasn't okay.

1Corinthians7 : 2

Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband.



Well, I don't believe in Jehovah witness piffles.

FrancisTony:
Pickabeau, you are misunderstanding me.
My opening post even said that no one should compare sins - I admitted that it's bad.

I agree with this
All sins are bad but even God says a there are sins which He will not forgive

is polygamy the sin you are referring to?

Adultery..yes but i still dont see where polygamy is referred to as a sin anywhere

Homosexuality is bad and i'm neither for or against as he who's with sin shouldn't cast the first stone. So, no need to quote Leviticus for me.

Then, my last post was directed at people who opined that American legalising gay is the sign of "end time".
I reminded them the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah according to Ezekeil & Songs of Solomon.

Kapish?

I dont get this last part... gays is to my knowledge not a sign of end times..but pestilence, famine, war etc
Some even believe we entered the end times from 1914.

fredoooooo:
don't mind Debo and iyalaje , truth is bitter

their Wenger love is strong n mixed with conc weed

how u doing

FrancisTony:
Yes, I said it's inhospitality and gave you a biblical verse.

Bible referred homosexual as homosexual not sodomy.
Sodomy was coined by human.
Read the origin of the "word" sodomy.

http://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/ngier/sodom.htm

I read your link. It is disingenuous to say that because a man has a perversion and God created the man, it means the perversion is of God and good
Saying that God is love and the existence of gays shows gaydom is good is asinine

I have no issue with science showing it is genetic..afterall science and religion dont always converge..but twisting d bible is something else



So what does this verse mean

Lev 18.22

New International Version
"'Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

New Living Translation
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.

English Standard Version
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

New American Standard Bible
'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

King James Bible
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
You are not to sleep with a man as with a woman; it is detestable.

International Standard Version
You are not to have sexual relations with a male as you would with a woman. It's detestable."

FrancisTony:
Please, Francis never said.
I gave you a bible verse.

By the way, I was finding it hard to find where God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality in the bible verse you quoted.
Lastly, I never wrote homosexuality is good.

Now I'm confused

You brought a verse saying it was their inhospitality that WS their sin

Do you know what sodomy...the word means?

Moca
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bukatyne

do you have anything to say about Sodom and their sin which led to destruction?

Francis says he believes its lack of hospitality that was their sin

FrancisTony:
Sorry, I didn't confound you; bible did.
You can fix homosexual as the grievous sin when bible didn't.

I have given you the sin of sodom according to Ezekiel.

i wish u did not bring bible into your liberal agenda
The Bible is clear on same sex relations

The angels were hosted by Lot in Sodom and the people preferred to lay with men as against women
yet you say na inhospital..

Gen 19.1 -9

dont twist the Bible... support your homolove as a personal thing
Dont bring Bible into it







And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

FrancisTony:
Ezekiel 16:49

"Look, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: She and her daughter had pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

P.S I quoted King James version. Some translated it as inhospitality.

gen 18.20 "And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;"

So to you this grievous sin is just inhospitality and not the fact they loved sodomy

I guess the act sodomy has nothing to do with the city name.. then

You confound me daily....

debosky:
E be like say this bros nor understand English - the boy was talking about depending ONLY on signings, he didn't say don't depend on signings at all.

Misplaced sarcasm. . . .not for the first time either!

On a positive note. . . .warm welcome to Petr Cech. In my opinion if we're to sell we should sell WS not DO.

Na u know....ogbeni


Welcome Cech


Scz needs training

FrancisTony:
Even Sodom was destroyed by mere [b]inhospitability[/b]l

Where did u get this information from...
Can u support with biblical quotes if its from the bible

Spy360:
Sanchez gave a good reckoning as a signing, and yes you are right. There are no generalisations, but as I said, depending only on signings will eventually wear out the team, destroy its structure and team work, and makes you buy a 'home grown' worth £2mil for £20mil.

I guess henry was home grown
Heck...even Petit, Vieira, Wiltord, Seaman,Pires were all home grown

Lets even add Dennis Bergkamp

So lets not sign and keep focusing on home grown players so we dont spend unneeded money on signings who will wear the team and destroy it structure

yay

tayoccu:
well if you think judging coq with half a season is foolish, that's your opinion, you're entitled to it.
you speak as if coq is a new signing, but he is not.
I remember a chat we had our arsenal group on bbm, I spoke about the boy's potential, and got laughed at by those who know better than the boss...
my point is it takes a spark to start a fire, I say its common sense to stoke the boy's fire till it becomes a raging inferno, than smother his spark just because fans want Wenger to sign.

No problem

tayoccu:
and your Wenger hate is out of this world.
green horn or not, look @ the boy's stats, he performed, and that's what we need, a performer.
IMO, any dm we buy now should be backup to coq, I mean a player who turned up for us last season shouldn't be sacrificed because some fans just want Wenger to sign

I don't hate Wenger however using one half season to judge coq as the finished product is asinine

Spy360:
Vidal and Ramsey.
Even if it is Vidal and Coquelin, what transpired between Bellerin and Debuchy must have taught us something didn't it? Yes Vidal gets the nod ahead of Coq but anytthing is possible- I see Coq coming stronger, better and more reliable next season.
Arsenal Till Heaven Beckons...

Ok

I hear......coq Is the best

Spy360:
There he goes again, the other guy's dog is better. Anyways we would find out if the other guy's dog snuggles in.


At least we get linked, and since neither Arsenal nor Vidal has refuted the claims, isn't a deal in the offing?

U actually are comparing vidal and coq

Your Wenger love is strong

Get with the program

emzila:
Mature advice needed. There is dis lady i recently meet and fall in love with, she has a daughter of nine years from unprotected sex and for some reasons she doesn't intend to keep relationship/marriage with d father of her daughter. The problem now is dat her daughter is so use to her that she doesn't want her out of site. We rarely have moment alone, worst of it is dat she even create scene whenever she tries to keep off our present and this is beginning to give me concern. In as much as i don't see it as crime having a baby by mistake, i think i deserve a happy relationship like every other person.

Why is it giving you concern?

if u are dating a single mom. you have to also be considerate of the child

the child will see you as a stranger who wants to take the little time she has with her mom away

have u actually tried to know her as a person, taken them on trips to cinema (Frozen, Inside out etc)

I hope you are aware HIV was first discovered among gays

edwife:
Pickabeau your description is crazy meh...

Ewwww

When there is natural lubricated hole
then me i will look for unnatural hole

fiakwa!

I dont see any issue

the woman is not complaining

Ewuro4:
I can't stop grinning at OP.