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Religion / Re: Apparition Of Jesus by Pimpu(m): 6:26am On Aug 11, 2010
by there wayz u shall no them
Religion / Re: Miracles by Pimpu(m): 8:51pm On Aug 03, 2010
being alive and healthy is a maracle
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by Pimpu(m): 8:23am On Aug 02, 2010
ajoguegbe;No comment till a reasonable,intelligent and mature point is made.

PurestBoy;@My Muslim brothers, Pls don't mind those Christians, lets meet at the new Nasfat ground on Friday night vigil or Sunday morning by copying the Christians since we've lost focus Our I-mad  imam will join us and give us the bomb so that we can blow up the American Embassy and catch with our 72 virgins. I'm tied of these worldly girls.

ajoguegbe:

ajoguegbe;@PurestBoy[b]Sorry,purestboy too late.[/b]



BY THERE WAYS U SHALL NO THEM

Religion / Re: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Pimpu(m): 8:12am On Aug 02, 2010
GOOD WORK @nopuqeater THE PROBLEM IS THAT THIS CHRISTIAN FOLKS HAS BEEN PROGRAM WITH PARTICULAR SET OF INSTRUCTION WHICH THEY WILL SAY AND JUST LIKE THE COMPUTER THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD NOT TO REASON WITH THEIR MIND BECAUSE ITS TOO COMPLICATED FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND.SO U C WITH THIS THEIR IS JUST LITTLE U CAN DO FOR THEM.
                                                                                      MA SALAM
Religion / Re: Lagos Orders Churches To Remove Loud Speakers by Pimpu(m): 6:30am On Aug 01, 2010
CGKing:

Moaque nko? Those very annoying mosques that disturb my buty sleep by 5am and 2pm. Whose alfas use their speakers for evil incitements.

NO WONDER UR LIFE IS LIKE THAT
Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by Pimpu(m): 8:31am On Jul 30, 2010
@precaps i think u should see a doctor
Religion / Re: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Pimpu(m): 8:04am On Jul 30, 2010
John said "the word was God".

PURE FALLACY JOHN NEVER SAID THAT
Religion / Re: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Pimpu(m): 7:14am On Jul 30, 2010
@nopuqeater GREAT WORK
Religion / Re: Faith Healing Fails as Usual by Pimpu(m): 7:02am On Jul 30, 2010
ANYONE WHO IS WAITING FOR ANOTHER MAN TO HEAL HIM/HER SHOULD BE READY TO FACE THE CONSEQUENCE.WHAT A SAD STORY
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by Pimpu(m): 6:39am On Jul 30, 2010
ajoguegbe:

No comment till a reasonable,intelligent and mature point is made.

     "And say; Truth has come and falsehood has vanished away. Lo! falsehood is ever bound to vanish."
                     (Holy Qur'an 17:81)

ALLAH IS GREAT
Religion / Re: Rev. Fr. Ejike Mbaka, Is He Real? by Pimpu(m): 9:49am On Jul 28, 2010
@sir john i hail
Religion / Re: Another One: Redeemed Pastor Arrested Over N8m Fraud by Pimpu(m): 9:33am On Jul 28, 2010
what a shame
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by Pimpu(m): 12:54pm On Jul 27, 2010
@Vvedaxcool [list]
[li]GREAT WORK[/li]
[li][/li]
[/list],I REALLY LIKE THE HITLER STUFF U DROPED ABOVE,I ALSO HAVE SOME MATERIAL I WANT U TO SHARE WITH U, THEN U WILL NO WHY PRECAP2,ALETHEIA AND AJOGUEGBE REMAIN DELUDED

BLUELAND44U@YAHOO.COM-SEND UR EMAIL TO ME
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by Pimpu(m): 12:44pm On Jul 27, 2010
Get it clear, Luke did not contradict Matthew and Mark

YES THIS IS ANOTHER COPY AND PASTE WITH FACT,WHAT A SHAME U SEEMS NOT TO NO THIS

1. Matthew and Luke disagree

Matthew and Luke give two contradictory genealogies for Joseph (Matthew 1:2-17 and Luke 3:23-38). They cannot even agree on who the father of Joseph was. Church apologists try to eliminate this discrepancy by suggesting that the genealogy in Luke is actually Mary's, even though Luke says explicitly that it is Joseph's genealogy (Luke 3:23). Christians have had problems reconciling the two genealogies since at least the early fourth century. It was then that Eusebius, a "Church Father," wrote in his The History of the Church, "each believer has been only too eager to dilate at length on these passages."

[b]2. Why genealogies of Joseph?

Both the genealogies of Matthew and Luke show that Joseph was a direct descendant of King David. But if Joseph is not Jesus' father, then Joseph's genealogies are meaningless as far as Jesus is concerned, and one has to wonder why Matthew and Luke included them in their gospels. The answer, of course, is that the genealogies originally said that Jesus was the son of Joseph and thus Jesus fulfilled the messianic requirement of being a direct descendant of King David.

Long after Matthew and Luke wrote the genealogies the church invented (or more likely borrowed from the mystery religions) the doctrine of the virgin birth. Although the virgin birth could be accommodated by inserting a few words into the genealogies to break the physical link between Joseph and Jesus, those same insertions also broke the physical link between David and Jesus.

The church had now created two major problems: 1) to explain away the existence of two genealogies of Joseph, now rendered meaningless, and 2) to explain how Jesus was a descendant of David.

The apostle Paul says that Jesus "was born of the seed of David"[/b] (Romans 1:3). [b]Here the word "seed" is literally in the Greek "sperma." This same Greek word is translated in other verses as "descendant(s)" or "offspring." The point is that the Messiah had to be a physical descendant of King David through the male line. That Jesus had to be a physical descendant of David means that even if Joseph had legally adopted Jesus (as some apologists have suggested), Jesus would still not qualify as Messiah if he had been born of a virgin - seed from the line of David was required.

Women did not count in reckoning descent for the simple reason that it was then believed that the complete human was present in the man's sperm (the woman's egg being discovered in 1827). The woman's womb was just the soil in which the seed was planted. Just as there was barren soil that could not produce crops, so also the Bible speaks of barren wombs that could not produce children.

This is the reason that although there are many male genealogies in the Bible, there are no female genealogies. This also eliminates the possibility put forward by some apologists that Jesus could be of the "seed of David" through Mary.

[Editor's note: As one reader has pointed out, "Genesis 3:15 says 'And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed.' So women can pass on 'seed' according to the bible."][/b]

TO BE CONTINUE SO MANY TO COME!!!!!!!!!!
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by Pimpu(m): 12:26pm On Jul 27, 2010
@vedaxcool
I am not troubled by your consistent ignorant persistence, I wanted to ignore you completely but discovered you are getting the truth. When you say 'Yahoo answers' I laugh because, if you have read all my posts, you will see I went straight to the point and summarized where necessary- a sign I studied and mastered my subject. But you, Chakula, Nonpugee, and Pimpu just copy from whatever source and paste without even reading what you are pasting. so you fill the whole space with something that would have been summarized if you had studied what you wanted to pasted. As for Muhammad's life, I know enough to educate you.

@ajoguegbe u sound so full of yourself with nothing to show for it,u can't even admit u lifted from yahoo answer instead u are trying to maneuver ur way, saying u summarised ur point,what a shame.the truth of the fact is that we all get our source online but the difference between us and u is  that we back up our point with fact.

As for Muhammad's life, I know enough to educate you.

pls don't say this again it only discredit u b4 me,u can't even quote a verse corectly from the holy quran talk less understand ISLAM.

Jesus cared for the poor, but also encouraged the art of industry. He understood that you don't just help the poor/hungry by giving them fish, rather teach them to fish. Nations and people that apply this 'Jesus principle' build their human capital, but places like Islamic parts of Northern Nigeria, produce almajiris, and beggers who go about begging for akara and fried yam. Jesus told Judas who ,made that suggestion that people like him will always have the poor with them (like Judas like Muslims). In Christianity we encourage the poor to think 'give' 'give' not 'take' 'take'. We believe that you reap by sowing. Jesus says
'give and it shall be given back to you'(Lk 6:38), and
'it is more blessed to give than to receive'(Acts 20:35)

Again baseless aquisation without fact.except u are in lagos, port harcourt , no state in nigeria can be compare with kaduna. That apart u will agree with me on this that[b] begging[/b] is still beter than prostitution and yahoo yahooo.

@Pimpu
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Did Luke witness his ministry and did he not contradict mathew n Mark?
You are serving me third party statement all these while, all I asked from you is to serve me where Jesus categorically said that.
Get it clear, Luke did not contradict Matthew and Mark. But if the ones i gave you are not enough.get more
Jesus told Nicodemus in John 3:17, "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."
John 10:9
"I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture."
KJV

except u are deluded or something like that u will no that u are still repeating the same thing,he said God sent him to save the world he didn't say he is your personal saviour.ALL AM TELLING U IS WORSHIP THE HELPER AND NOT THE HELPED,THE SENDER AND NOT THE SENT

Because you said you are looking for where Jesus says He is the Saviour. But meanwhile, realize that Jesus is the Word of God (the Bible) John 1:1. In more than 100 places, the Bible refers to Jesus Christ as the Saviour of the world. Since Jesus is the Word personified, it means HE said it over a hundred times.
Finally, read the quote above, Jesus says He is the door and not Muhammad, ACCEPT HIM TODAY
I SEE WHERE U ARE GOING TO NOW,SINCE U COULDN'T SHOW WHERE HE SAID HE IS YOUR PERSONAL SAVIOUR , U WANT TO MANEUVER UR WAY OUT BY CLAIMING HE IS THE WORD AND THE WORD IS GOD.MY DEAR FRIEND CHECK OUT MY POSTS IN "TOP TEN REASON WHY JESUS IS NOT GOD"I TELL U THEN U WILL HAVE THE TRUE PEACE
Religion / Re: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Pimpu(m): 12:32am On Jul 27, 2010
Jesus said that he is a servant of God Who sent him. This verse is enough to confirm that Jesus was a messenger and no God.

That is enough to confirm he is a servant of God. Yes. But that is not enough to confirm he was not God.
SO SINCE WE HAVE ESTABLISH THAT ON EARTH HE WAS A SERVANT THEN I WILL ASK U THESE QUESTIONS
1-IN HEAVEN WILL JESUS EXIST AS A SEPARATE ENTITY OR AS ONE WITH GOD
IF AS ONE,I WILL ASK U WHO WILL BE OCCUPYING THE CENTER SIT WHEN JESUS SAID HE WILL BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE FATHER?MARK 16:19
BUT,BUT IF NOT THEN THE STATEMENT IN JOHN 14:9-10 IS SIMPLY TRYING TO SAY ONCE U ACCEPT GOD THEN HE IS IN U AND U ARE IN HIM.
Religion / Re: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Pimpu(m): 11:51pm On Jul 26, 2010
John 20: 16: Jesus said to her, "Mary!" She turned and said to him in Hebrew, "Rabbouni," which means Teacher.

So should we also take it that "Mary!" was just an exclamation and not her name - because of the exclamation mark?

Well here's how wikipedia describes it: "An exclamation mark, exclamation point, or bang (!) is a punctuation mark usually used after an interjection or exclamation to indicate strong feelings or high volume, and often marks the end of a sentence.
[b]@MR ITALO I WONDER WHY U WILL WANT TO SAY ANYTHING JUST TO DENY THE TRUTH
TO BEGIN WITH
INTERJECTION MEANS ;A WORD OR WORDS,OR SOME NOISES,USED TO EXPRESS SURPRISES,DISMAY,PAIN OR OTHER FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS
EXCLAMATION MEANS AN EXPRESSION OF SURPRISE OR OTHER SUDDEN FEELINGS.
NOW BACK TO THE VERSE JOHN 20:16 JESUS SAID TO HER,"MARY".SHE TURNED TOWARDS HIM AND CRIED OUT IN ARAMAIC,
"RABBON[/b]I[b]!"(WHICH MEANS TEACHER)
source NIV
PLS CAN ANY NEUTRAL PERSON IN THE HOUSE READ THE ABOVE VERSE FROM JOHN 20:14-17 AND TELL ME IF SHE WAS SURPRICE OR NOT

Please notice there was no question asked in the entire narration. Hence, the text which reads "Thomas[/b] answered" is  inaccurate.

The meanings of the word [b]'answer' according to thefreedictionary.com are found below;

v.intr.
1. To speak, write, or act as a return, as to a question.
2. To be liable or accountable: You must answer for your actions.
3. To serve the purpose; suffice: "Often I do use three words where one would answer" (Mark Twain).
4. To correspond; match: I found a dog answering to that description.
v.tr.
1. To speak, write, or act as a return to; respond to.
2. To respond correctly to.
3. To fulfill the demands or needs of; serve: "My fortune has answered my desires" (Isaak Walton).
4. To conform or correspond to: The suspect answers the description given by the police.

, And, of course you know, no English dictionary will disagree. So allow me to say that whoever the scholar that did these studies is not even worthy to be called a scholar. It's clear that it is either the scholar doesn't understand basic English or he does but is deliberately twisting words to deceive people. It's your duty to determine what kind of scholar you've been reading from Pimpu.

WHAT DA HELL ARE U SAYING,MY FRIEND THIS MAY SURPRISE U BUT MOST OF THE REVISED VERSION HAS REPLACE THE WORD ANSWERED WITH SAID. I WILL ASK YOU THIS SIMPLE QUESTION WHY WAS IT CHANGED?
AND FOR THE OTHER STUFF U WROTE U ARE ONLY ATTACKING THE WRITER AND NOT THE WRIGHT-OUT.
MY FRIEND ALWAYS REMEMBER THE TRUTH IS ONE.
Religion / Re: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Pimpu(m): 8:28pm On Jul 26, 2010
@ITALO READ WITH EASE

Verse No. 8
When confronted by Jews; Jesus said unto them, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." (John 8:58)
Perceived by the "man of extraordinary faith": This  proves;

a) Jesus existed before his birth.
b) Jesus was the same entity who replied to prophet Moses when he asked his God; What was His name? What shall he say to his people? From behind the Burning Bush God replied;
"I AM THAT I AM." (Exodus 3:14).

Answer No. 8
a) Jesus was consecrated (anointed) by God before he was born and so was prophet Jeremiah. The Bible records, God came to prophet Jeremiah and said to him; "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations." Jer. 1:5.

God "loved" his chosen prophets before they were born. The Bible confirms; God "loved" Jesus before the foundation of the world. (Jn. 17:24). This act of loving by an entity called God, undoubtedly proves that Jesus was not God "Himself", before he was born or after he was born. Jesus was a distinctly separate entity that was "being loved" by God, records this verse for the people who are upright and open minded.

King Melchizedek of Salem was an eternal priest with no records of his beginning and ending. (Heb. 7:1-3). No Christian would admit, based upon this stated of "eternal life span", that the King of Salem was God, so how can Jesus be who claimed his existence before Abraham?

b) The entire concept is based upon a simple conjecture. In the foot notes of Exodus 3:14 the editors of K.J.V. write;

    "Jesus probably alluded to this name of God in John 8:58, 'Before Abraham was, I AM." The use of phrase
"probably alluded" indicates; this does not happen to be an established truth or certainty.

The Greek words "ego eimi" are here translated as "I Am". However, the literal translation mentioned in the marginal notes of the New American Standard Bible reads; "I have been".


Study Supportive Passage:

Repeating the same phrase "I am", Jesus said; "I am (he),  and that I do nothing on my own; but as my Father has taught me, I speak these things." (John 8:28). God of Moses had no instructor. If he had one, then that entity would be the God's mentor or boss!
Religion / Re: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Pimpu(m): 7:23pm On Jul 26, 2010
@ITALO lets start with this
John Chapter 1: 1-15

Verse No. 11
" In the beginning was the Word,
   and the Word was with God,
   and the Word was God."   
     (John 1:1)
Perceived by the "man of extraordinary faith": The verse says;
In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God.


Study No. 11
   The text does not read "In the beginning was Jesus". John did not write the word Jesus in his original manuscript. If he had meant that, he could have simply used the name Jesus. John wrote what he knew to be the Truth. In the beginning was the "Spoken Word" (i.e. God's Command). "Jesus" happens to be a SUBSTITUTION of the Greek word "Logos" used by the apostle. In reality the bible readers are implying, suggesting, alluding or insinuating the name of Jesus. The concept of SUBSTITUTING the original Greek term 'Logos' with "Jesus" has been the traditional norm for the past many centuries. Hence it is not easy to believe otherwise. Is this "substitution" any where closer to the literal translation of the Greek word "Logos"? The answer is, No.

    The Greek term 'Logos' is derived from the root word 'Lego' meaning
"to speak". The literal translation of the word 'Logos' is "something spoken, thought". A Command that is spoken. A thought that is expressed. The verification of this literal translation is very simple. Please refer to any good English Dictionary. Under the word 'Decalogue' you will find the meaning; "The Ten Commandments", (deka = ten; logous = commands). The dictionary also translates the word 'Logos' as "discourse, reason, (rarely) word".

With the traditional "substitution" the verse reads; "and Jesus was with God and Jesus was God." How can Jesus be "with" God, and "was" God, as well? It defies the logic(the chain of thoughts).

The literal translation reads:

      In the beginning was the 'spoken word, command',
      and the 'spoken word, command' was with God,
      and the 'spoken word, command' was Divine.
(John 1:1)

The opening of John's Gospel coincides perfectly with the prologue of the Book of Genesis which reads; "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And
the God said, Let there be light; and there was light."
(Genesis 1:1/ 3).


The translation of 'Logos' as "Divine" in the last line is based upon the usage of Greek grammar. Here is the brief explanation for those who are interested in the grammar. In the second line, the phrase used by John for "God" is 'ho theo', meaning 'the God'. In the last line it is simply 'theo', the definitive article 'the' is missing. It is not written because here  'Theo' is a predicate of the preceding subject. The predicate is used to denote the nature, quality, attribute or property of the subject. In this instance the nature of the God's spoken command happens to be "Divine".

In 'New translation of the Bible' (1922) by the famous Dr. James Moffatt, it reads; "the Logos was Divine". And, the similar translations appear in 'The Complete Bible - An American Translation' (Smith-Goodspeed); 'The Authentic New Testament' by Hugh J. Schonfield and the translations done by; Haenchen, Lyder Brun and Madsen.

Notes:
John 1:2 & 3 would also translate perfectly with the literal translation and further compliment the opening passages from the Book Of Genesis.  The Greek word  'houtos' {3778} should be literally translated as "the same" (meaning, the spoken word),  instead of "he". In the King James Version, it reads; "The same was in the beginning with God", which supports the above clarification. Hence, John 1:2 & 3 should read:

    It (the Command) was in the beginning with God.
    All things came into being through it (the Command) and without it (the Command) not one thing came into being.


Please read Genesis 1: 3, 6, 11, 14, 20 & 24. It will compel the readers to admit the Truth.  In Isaiah 45:12 God says;


    I made the earth and created humankind upon it;
    it was my hands that stretched out the heavens,
    and I commanded all their hosts.


Those who prefer to substitute the "Logos" with Jesus and read;
"All things came into being through him (Jesus)", are requested to read Mt. 19:4.   While drawing the attention of the Pharisees to the Old Testament passages (e.g. Gen. 1:27, 5:2 and Is. 45:12), Jesus clearly points out that it was God Himself (not he), who created the mankind.

Notes: John 1: 4
With the literal translation John 1:4 would read: In it (the spoken Command) was life, and the life was the light for all people.

Notes: John 1: 6 to 9 Here we aretold that John the Baptist was sent into this world in advance.  He himself was not the light. But John was sent as a witness to testify that light, so that all might believe through him in what was to come. This true light, which enlightens everyone , was coming into this world after him. The rest is easy to follow once we understand the most important verse number 14.

Notes: John 1:14 And the "Logos" (the spoken word, Command, wherein was life and light) became flesh (by entering the womb of Virgin Mary). No Bible reader can deny the fact that whenever God wanted to create anything (e.g. Light, Vegetation, Living Creatures, etc.,) He had been using His Commands to do just that. In this instance, He chose to make His Righteous Messiah through this unique "one of a kind" (John 3:16) Command.  Briefly, it was the Command of God that became flesh (the body of Jesus within Mary). This also explains the Virgin Birth through Mary.

To say that God Himself became flesh (Jesus, upon this earth) is not only a grave blasphemy but has been explicitly and repeatedly negated by Jesus himself, as shown from the beginning of this article. The only other alternative would be to say; the God Incarnate came to this earth and the God made an utterly false statement, concerning the CRUCIAL issue of having
"the eternal life", in John 17:3.  The choice is yours, which to adopt and what to reject.

Study Supportive Passage:
If John wanted to write "Jesus", why would he write "Logos" instead? There is no record of Jesus being ever addressed as "Logos" by any one in the New Testament.
", if any one proclaims  to you a Gospel contrary to what you have received, let that one be accursed." Galatians 1:9.
Religion / Re: T.b Joshua Miracle Scam by Pimpu(m): 11:44pm On Jul 25, 2010
na now u no,magic embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed
Religion / Re: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Pimpu(m): 11:43pm On Jul 25, 2010
@ITALO I HAVE STATED THIS BEFORE BUT U IGNORE IT NOW U HAVE TO FACE IT
Men need to be strengthened; God does not because God is All-Powerful.If Jesus had to be strengthened, he must not be God.However,i would like to have your evidence for the above qoute.

John 20:28: Thomas answered and said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

Verse No. 6
Thomas said to Jesus; "My Lord and my God." John 20:28
Perceived by the "man of extraordinary faith": Since Jesus did not rebuke Thomas, upon hearing the above explicit statement declaring him as God, proves he was God.


Study No. 6
Here is the entire text from the 'New American Standard Bible' John 20 : 27-28:

    "Then he (Jesus) said to Thomas, 'Reach here your finger, and see my hands, and reach here your hand, and put it into my side; and be not unbelieving, but believing.' Thomas answered and said to him, 'My Lord and my God!'"

Please observe the mark of exclamation
(!) at the end of the phrase. The King James Version has removed the exclamation mark.

Please notice there was no question asked in the entire narration. Hence, the text which reads "Thomas
answered" is  inaccurate.

The last phrase "My Lord and my God!" was not an answer but it was an
outburst by Thomas, having seen something  inexplicable and baffling. It is not unusual that a man cries out; "O' my God!" when he sees something totally bizarre.

Below are the texts from two reputed versions of the Bible
that support what Thomas said was not an answer to any question.

'New English Bible': Thomas
said, "My Lord and my God!"

'Phillips Modern English Bible': "My Lord and my God!"
cried Thomas.

Study Supportive Passage:
Apostle John writes, immediately after the discourse between Jesus and Thomas; "Many other signs therefore Jesus also performed in the presence of the disciples,which are not written in this book; but these have been written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ."

If John had recognized the answer by Thomas to be  a testimony for the 'Deity of Jesus', and the observed silence by Jesus to be his acquiesce to such a testimony, then the apostle John would have asked us to believe "Jesus is the God", instead of "Jesus is the Christ" in the above verse.
Religion / Re: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Pimpu(m): 11:28pm On Jul 25, 2010
@ITALO AM HERE AWAITING UR RESPONSE
Pimpu:

Verse No. 2
Jesus said: "He who has seen me has seen the Father."
                                        (John 14:9).
Perceived by the "man of extraordinary faith": This verse proves Jesus was God.

Study No. 2
One day to prove a point, Jesus picked up a child and said to his disciples
; "Whoever receives this child  in my name receives me; and whoever receives me receives Him who sent me;" (Luke 9:48).

This specific act of Christ Jesus and/or his explicit statement concerning this Child does not make; the Child and the Christ,
co-equal or one in status.

The next plausible question would be did Jesus admit he too was sent by God just as he was sending the Child? The answer is found several verses. Here are two:

Jesus said: ", and that I do nothing on my own, but I speak these things as the Father instructed me."  John 8:28.

Jesus said: ", I have not spoken on my own, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak."  John 12:49.


Study Supportive Passage:
Jesus said; "Truly, truly, I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master; neither one who is sent greater than the one
who sent him."
(John 13:16).
Pimpu:

MY QUESTION ARE
1-FROM THE FIRST QUOTE   (John 14:9). DOES IT MEAN THAT THE CHILD AND CHRIST ARE CO-EQUAL OR ONE IN STATUS.

2-DID JESUS ADMIT HE TOO WAS SENT BY GOD?
Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by Pimpu(m): 11:16pm On Jul 25, 2010
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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by Pimpu(m): 11:03pm On Jul 25, 2010
You call it self defense? May be I dont understand what self defence is, does it include calling for war against potential threats?
@ajoguegbe
If u fear God and believe in the truth,quote one verse
IN CONTEXT where muslims where told to attack "pottential threats" i just wonder wat u hv to gain by denying the truth?In ur previous post u quoted quranic verses out of context saying muslim were told to attack non muslim.This is pure fallacy and for this i
took my time to explain but u never acknowlegde that.this shows u are out to argue and not to learn.


You see that is why I refered to Muhammad as "an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way." Jesus was a perfect example of humility. He taught the world that you can become famous by serving people not by fighting people. He knew his assignment will start from the Jews to the whole world. Andd today, he is the most popular person in the world, with the highest number of following. I wish people can learn from Him, our ambitions will be controlled by conscience and character.
just like above give factual point and stop quoting from "yahoo answer"

pls show me one place in the bible where jesus personally say he is your saviour.
The Wikipaedia defines the word saviour as "a person who helps people achieve Salvation, or saves them from something". Jesus Christ referring to himself said, in Matt 18:11
"For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."
again
"And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham. For the Son of man(Jesus) is come to seek and to save that which was lost."Luke 19:9-10

i laughed when i saw this n then i realised how deep ur ignorance is about ur religion,
firstly Matthew 18:11 does not appear in several current Bibles such as the New International Version,
the New Century Version, the Contemporary English Version, and the New Living Translation.
The verse is missing from some of the Bibles because the passage does not actually appear in the best early Greek manuscripts which contain Matthew.
It is important to remember that the New Testament was written in Greek.
These original documents called "autographs" were copied and passed from one person to another.
In the process of making copies, errors would occur sometimes. Sometimes words were misspelled,
words were left out, and on rare occasions, some copyists would insert some words.Even in king james the verse
appears in parenthesis
.

Did Luke witness his ministry and did he not contradict mathew n Mark?
You are serving me third party statement all these while, all I asked from you is to serve me where Jesus categorically said that.


AND TO WRAP IT ALL DON'T EVER THINK JESUS IS A PERFECT BEING AS THE CHURCH WOULD WANT U TO BELIEVE
BECAUSE I HAVE NOTICE SOME PRIDE IN UR STATEMENT ABOUT HIM BEING PERFECT.SO I WILL BE DROPING SOME FACT ON THIS TO SUPPORT MY
POINT.
AFTER UR RESPONSE TO MY POST.
Religion / Re: Oyakhilome, Oyedepo, Ashimolowo, Adeboye Et Al Should be Ashamed!!! by Pimpu(m): 11:27am On Jul 23, 2010
POVERTY , DESPERATION ,LAZINESS ,FALSE PRIDE, are the diseases that makes nigerians easily gulible.wat a shame
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by Pimpu(m): 11:06am On Jul 23, 2010
@ajoguegbe
I WILL QUOTE U IN RED AND REPLY U SUBSEQUENTLY.I HOPE THIS WILL HELP U OUT
"We are all saying the same thing"
No we are not,u quoted a verse wrongly(out of context) and contrast it with some verse from the bible.how can we be saying yhe same thing?U must first admit u made a mistake before u take correction.

"I drew the contrast between Jesus and Muhammad, that in some conditions Muhammad advocates war"
U c! here u come again how can u advocate war in self defence.which war can jesus fight when he has not finish with the jews in isreal talk less of other countries.

"So Jesus who was completely against war as a means to spread the Faith wouldn't have been one of your prophets. Jesus and his Apostles never fought anyone. All you quoted about wars from the bible are Old Testament. Jesus brought a new order that is perfect. Muhammad decides to follow the Old and still calling Jesus a predecessor."
have u not read in ur scriptures:mathew 5:17 "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill."  

"I also don't understand all you quoted from the Bible about women"

now u don't understand the bible!!!!!!!!

"The Bible is not against the fact that the man is above the woman? That is the divine order, but it didn't say the woman is a slave or should be enslaved by the man which is what Islam is doing. Forcing women to cover their face,not come to Mosque, who to marry, not go to school etc is slavery. Muhammad pounced on women like spoils of war,they were just properties like chairs, horse etc. In the Bible, who played so many major roles especially in the ministry of Jesus
Next time"

Pls honourable neutral viewer, check above and see what the bible is saying about women and contrast it wt the Holy quran below

quran 24:31 And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest,
and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent,
and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands
or fathers or husbands' fathers, or their sons or their husbands' sons, or their brothers or their brothers' sons
or sisters' sons, or their women, or their slaves, or male attendants who lack vigour, or children who know naught of women's unclothedness.
And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And turn unto Allah together, O believers, in order that ye may succeed.

quran [33:59] O prophet, tell your wives, your daughters, and the wives of the believers that they shall lengthen their garments. Thus,
they will be recognized (as righteous women) and avoid being insulted. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

"Next time, Organise your thought better before presenting it"

the truth is one my friend

"But I advice you stop dodging the truth by covering the whole place. Jesus can set you free. He died for you to be FREE. If you need to learn more about Jesus and the Bible
Difference btw the Old and New Testament
-Why Jesus had to die
-The place of Original sin and
-What the Bible prophecies about the coming of Islam
I can offer you assistance.
Pimpu, you know you are my frnd and weve been chatting online. we can discuss it over like many others that have written me"


pls show me one place in the bible where jesus personally say he is your saviour
and about the bible prophecies about islam is a topic i can't wait to discus wt u here in the open.
Religion / Re: Jesus Not Entirely Good by Pimpu(m): 12:28am On Jul 22, 2010
Ogaga4Luv:

[size=13pt]why do you feel that Jesus is good. . . .huh  [/size]
Have u not read in the scripture mark 10:18
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.

heaven is not cheap oooooooooooo.
Religion / Re: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Pimpu(m): 12:06am On Jul 22, 2010
@chyz WE ARE ON THE SAME SIDE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, HE WAS NOT GOD,HE IS NOT GOD AND HE CAN NEVER BE GOD.PEACE
Religion / Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Pimpu(m): 1:37pm On Jul 21, 2010
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Religion / Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Pimpu(m): 1:28pm On Jul 21, 2010
there dayz are numbered
Religion / Re: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Pimpu(m): 1:15pm On Jul 21, 2010
MY QUESTION ARE
1-FROM THE FIRST QUOTE (John 14:9). DOES IT MEAN THAT THE CHILD AND CHRIST ARE CO-EQUAL OR ONE IN STATUS.

2-DID JESUS ADMIT HE TOO WAS SENT BY GOD?
Religion / Re: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is Not God by Pimpu(m): 1:02pm On Jul 21, 2010
Verse No. 2
Jesus said: "He who has seen me has seen the Father."
                                        (John 14:9).
Perceived by the "man of extraordinary faith": This verse proves Jesus was God.

Study No. 2
One day to prove a point, Jesus picked up a child and said to his disciples
; "Whoever receives this child  in my name receives me; and whoever receives me receives Him who sent me;" (Luke 9:48).

This specific act of Christ Jesus and/or his explicit statement concerning this Child does not make; the Child and the Christ,
co-equal or one in status.

The next plausible question would be did Jesus admit he too was sent by God just as he was sending the Child? The answer is found several verses. Here are two:

Jesus said: ", and that I do nothing on my own, but I speak these things as the Father instructed me."  John 8:28.

Jesus said: ", I have not spoken on my own, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say and what to speak."  John 12:49.


Study Supportive Passage:
Jesus said; "Truly, truly, I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master; neither one who is sent greater than the one
who sent him."
(John 13:16).

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