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Ubenedictus: no probs

Image123: @plap, hope you're not short too? Amusing and short is not a good combination oh, lolz.
I'm kidding oh, you know i sabi tickle you.
let me go take my flight, thank you Jesus, today no bi 'Shabbath'. plap for get chance catch me. I'll also have to put on THE WHOLE armour of God just in case. heeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaa.

Image123: plap, please be polite enough to converse with me in English. Thank you.

seriallink: ^^Are you saying Paul's teachings weren't inspired by Jesus/Holy Spirit? If you reject his teachings, you are rejecting Jesus too; unless ofcourse you are not a Christian like Sis. Plappvile asked Smh!!!

Bidam: madam i don't intend to respond to ur ignorance. But i have to so as to set the records straight...i think u ave heard of the word EMPHASIS...Paul was the emphasis added..or is paul the author of ur faith!??Smh! Ayam a believer and i OBEY GOD not the philosopies and ideologies of men.

Bidam: @image.God bless u sir.. i really like the part u said i'd rather obey Jesus than a thousand exposition.. dat is mind blowing my brother... Jesus and not paul is indeed the Author and Perfecter of our Faith.

dat is mind blowing my brother... Jesus and not paul

mumumugu: JESUS WAS BORN IN A MANGER NT hospital

he waz visitd by shepherd not celebrity

his father was capenter nt governor

his desciple were fishermen nt politician

he orded d disciple to walk witout slipers.he didnt provide jet 4 them

he walkd on foot and rode a donkey. No jet , no chariot

he neva ask nor recivd money 4 miracle.

He sufferd

he forgav his enemy. No holyghost fire

no

ijawkid: Jesus being reffered to as an ANGEL does not in anyway degrade him ...........
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if you think Jesus being called an angel degrades Him,how about Jesus being reffered to as the HIGH PRIEST if Yahweh......how about Jesus being reffered to as Yahwehs apostle......how about Jesus being reffered to as Yahwehs servant.....

Right now as we speak Jesus is a servant of YAHWEH..........

""Servant"" is a title we all bear(including) Jesus except Yahweh who is over all......

As far as the scriptures is concerned Jesus remains a messenger of Yahweh......and nothing SPOIL,,,,,,,

Boomark: American Standard
Version
And I (Jesus) will strengthen
them in Jehovah; and they
shall walk up and down in
"his" (Yahweh's) name, saith
Jehovah.

From what you inserted here, it looks as if it is Jesus that said "I will strengthen them in Jehovah..." and afterwards the statement is "saith by Jehovah."

Are you trying to say that Jesus is Jehovah while Yahweh is the Father?

I gave you a link where statements like that were treated. Stop inserting Jesus where you did not see it.

[size=14pt] IS Jesus the word of God or not? [/size] I did not Say that Jesus is Jehovah, some scripure will uses "the lord" some times for both Yahweh and Jesus. So its now translation problem abi?
All other translation used "the Lord" only the one that used ANGEL you chosed to accept.
You'r Not been Honest here BRO...!


Zechariah 3:1-2
Good News Translation (GNT)

In another vision the LORD
showed me the High Priest Joshua
standing before the angel of the
LORD. And there beside Joshua
stood Satan, ready to bring an
accusation against him. 2 The angel
of the LORD[b] said to Satan, “May
the LORD condemn you, Satan! May
the LORD, who loves Jerusalem,
condemn you. This man is like a
stick snatched from the fire.”

Is this not a better translation? If you still use LORD LORD that cannot be differentiated then my explanations and the link above shows it is.

Image123: With the way my boy Gosh was barking here like a violently possessed chicken, one would think he'd have exposed some heresy by now. Instead the guy just sober.lolz. Gosh my brother, dump the tension and pay your tithe, i may reply you in detail later as you expect.

Image123: You need an update.
Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
You are putting this aside, recall? What is the spirit of the NT, i need to be clear?
Hebrews 7 tells us that tithes was received after the law, you are beginning to bore me. i thought that issue was already past? What is the law of Christ, and who told you tithes is not part of this 'law of Christ'even after Christ commended it?
Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Bidam: @image.God bless u sir..i really like the part u said i'd rather obey Jesus than a thousand exposition..dat is mind blowing my brother... Jesus and not paul is indeed the Author and Perfecter of our Faith.

Pastor Kun: @Goshen
Thanx so much for this thorough + painstaking exposition into Hebrews 7. I believe a lot of brethen have learnt a lot and a lot more would be set free from the shackles of this false doctrine that is so popular in our churches today. May God continue to enrich you and bless you in the knowledge of his word.

frosbel: So until I accept the line of the JW organisation , my reputation is at stake , lol.

See how you guys are towing the line of JW instead of forming your opinions based on independent biblical analysis and thought.

Jesus is no angel , totally false.

Boomark: I didn't see "jesus is an angel" there o! Are you using scrolls or the original manuscripts?

Boomark: Zechariah 10:12.
New International Version
(©1984)
I will strengthen them in
the LORD and in his name
they will walk," declares
the LORD.

American Standard
Version
And I Jesus will strengthen
them in Jehovah; and they
shall walk up and down in
"his" Yahweh's name, saith Jehovah.

Plappy, where you quoted is similar Zechariah 10:12. You see that it is the LORD Himself that spoke. It is not something impossible.

tip999: So Christ is not God?

Zikkyy: You talk like you were in attendance. na wa for you

true2god: U dnt seem to want to say 'Yes, Jesus christ is an angel'. Thats the dilenma, but u can muddle-up unrelated verse to say Jesus christ is arch angel Michael. But if i put it up to u to giv a direct response by simply sayin 'Jesus is an angel' u wnt want to say dat.

The point here is dat if JW comes up with the latest publication that says 'Jesus is not angel michael' u wll naturally change ur perception on dis belief. Thats not an independent way of reasoning, basing ones interpretation of the bible on an organization that hav made differnt changes in their doctrine or belief (the light gettin brighter fallacy).

If watchtower had published many articles earlier that r presently being considerd false or mistake (by the same watchtower), what gives u the impression dat there is no current belief they held that is false? U dnt seem to knw the history of watchtower my sister. From failed prophecies to change in doctrinal belief. My question to u again is, 'is Jesus christ an angel'? U can do me a favour by bein straight about it.

BARRISTERS: @True2God



i have answered in page 17 before, and im answering now again, [size=18pt]yes,[/size] he was once reffered to as angel malachi 3:1.

okay?

tip999: only God has no beginning of days . remember God visited abraham in human form.

frosbel: Sir, I am too busy these days, so might not be able to answer you point for point.

There is no way we can agree on this one.

It is almost blasphemy to suggest that Jesus Christ was angel Michael, he was not.

You are basing your understanding not on the bible but the teachings of the JW or SDA.

Jesus is simply the Son of GOD , a MAN who gave his life for you and me. He is now exalted above all power and principality and this includes Michael.

Try and read the bible without the bias of organisational interpretation, you just might learn a thing or two.

BARRISTERS: @plappvile



you see arrogance? question dey answer question! that is an evidence that they have nothing to hold on again than 'arrogance'.

even 'frosbel' has ran out of gas completely with his advantage of freethinking could not reply my last question above,while i have answerd his,this is due to the fact that he ignored bible warning....''do not lean on your own understanding''prov 3:5 frosbel says noo, i must lean on my own underatanding to my own advantage. he con enter gbege!

Image123: Perhaps you were drunk when reading me. i'm saying the same thing i've been saying on this issue since i joined this forum.

Boomark: May be i was also drunk then. Its good to see you are now doing well. Unless someone else used your id to write what is up there.

CrazyMan: 1 Peter 5:8 says, “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour”

Ephesians 6:12, “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” The battle is not between human beings. It’s against the prince of this world.

He’s not in hell, yet. He’s busy trying to distract, discourage, and destroy!

He's time on earth isn't up yet...once its up, he would be bouned and casted into the lake of fire along with other sinners.

See the passage below for satan's judgment...

Revelation 20:1-3.  And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.


Once a man dies, he goes to the grave...pending the day of resurrection when he would give an account of the life he/she live here on earth.


No one goes to hell...until the final judgement.

The Bible tells us of two people who died and came back. Jesus Christ and lazarus. This is what Jesus says after His experience in death:

John 20:17. "Touch Me not; for I am not yet ascended to My Father: but go to My brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto My Father and your Father; and to My God, and your God."

From this statement, we have to admit, Christ did not go to the Father in His death, but only after He raised Himself to life, and His body was functioning again.

At death, Christ could go no where except to the grave where people put Him after He died. Only when He raised Himself to life, could He go anywhere at all!

I've read countless stories of people who claim to have visited heaven or hell...to be honest, I don't believe such stories... If Christ couldn't go anywhere but to the grave, are we better than Christ in our death, do we go to heaven or hell and not just the grave?

Also lazarus in the bible who was raised up from the dead never mentioned anything like hell or heaven...he was sleeping comfortable in the grave until christ rose him up from the grave.

Finally...

Revelation 20:13.  And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

The passage above confirms my stand...if people would go to hell or heaven at death, then what dead was this passage referring to that the sea, death and hades gave up?


I've don't that.

BARRISTERS: True and authentic!, plenty plenty still dey! just concentrate on what you are doing and let me engage them with their criminal past. and let the whole world see their yansh!

true2god: Thats not the ansa to my question. Frm ur 'research' and conclusion is Jesus chris an angel? Yes or no. I dnt think this simple question is in anyway ambigous.

BARRISTERS: @ubenedictus



this type of your illiteracy has entered 'agono' or 'alagono' like the yorubas says, instead of you to have asked what 'your worship' and other legal 'registers' means before proceeding on a public here on NL to expose your dirty linnen. now in legal terms, if you dont know, these registers you mention above with ignorance are exclusively for legal usages, no judge is called 'your worship' ehn? but they are addressed that way because of their superiority among those seated in the court.

there is no link between using 'your worship' addresing a judge complying with legal requirements in a court of law, and the pope who on his own wrote in his Bull and was said to be permitting and encouraging the worship of the seven archangels

''Pope Pius V said in his Bull to the Spanish Clergy, permitting and encouraging the worship of the seven archangels

the difference is that is that the decision to singlehandedly permit and encouraged such idolatory act was not a unanimous resolution,but he forced or led the church into idolatory.while that of the court are unanimously agreed to and adressed to the judges 'office'. okay?
olodo.


you are a liar, see picture A below, your priests were blessing armoury,and guns, actively participating in blessing tools that will be used not to kill grasscutters or antelopes but a fellow humans like you, now can you say that these priests respect Gods command

THOU SHALL NOT KILL? but the priest blessed the armoury with so-called holy water not mindfull of other catholics in the other opponents camp. we saw catholics soldiers (britain/America) vs catholic soldiers (france)(germany) killing each other,

what a shame, see the pics of a shamefull act of your priest below pics A


yeah,