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Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Practices In The Bible Unknown To Christians by plappville(f): 11:15pm On Dec 05, 2011
@bashy_demy, u wanted some koran contradictions, there are alot and Muslim scholars finds it difficult to understand why these errors are in place. U ve failed to help @David to arrive at a point. But that wont stop me from giving u wat u requested for, Plz correct ur Koran or History books. How did Mohamed come manage to come up wit the below??

How true is the story of Abraham and the Ka’bah in the koran?
 
your Koran wrote that, Abraham and his son Ishmael were the ones who built the Ka’bah in Mecca (Sura 2:127).  
Are u aware of hw contradicting this is to all history books known?:

Again in the koran, In Sura 18:83-97, it says of the adventures of a man named “Dhu’l-Qarneyn,”a title that means “Two-Horned.”If we read furthermore, it wrote that Dhu’l-Qarneyn which is (ALEXENDER THE GREAT) lived to a ripe old age. Will u agree with this riped old age koran story? is this not contradiction of history and error of the koran?
Islam › Re: Is Islam Really A Religion Of Peace? by plappville(f): 10:53pm On Dec 05, 2011
@uplawal, u ve bla bla bla, and not able to prove anything?
Well, i will answer ur blabla, by the time u finish with my second qoute.

Which History book apart from the kuran stated that Abraham and Ismael were the builders of the Karba in Mecca?
How did Mohamed came about this?

Note: u ve failed to prove ur koran right, (ISA) isuue was from @judek2 not me, u must be confussed with questions like this undecided , ok, answer my question or u submit. Then i will reply u. Thank u though for taking ur time in responding.
Christianity Etc › Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by plappville(f): 9:59pm On Dec 05, 2011
@bashy_demy, answer these few question becos u said God is fake.

Before mohammed lunched Islam, what was the God the arabs/Now Muslims were saving?
Why did allah prefares to proof his existant with Mohamed and not others ? Has he be hiding himself for so long until Mohamed was born? Or has He never existed at all until mohameds days?
Christianity Etc › Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by plappville(f): 9:46pm On Dec 05, 2011
I think this girl (plappville) need to be educated more about Islam
Go bk to ur post and see where the two kuran issue came from.

Posted on: Yesterday at 10:52:12 PM Posted by: bashy_demy

U said the kuran verses i posted were the wrong ones, if u claim this to be true, it means there is another koran.
The one that has wrong qoutes and the one with right/correct post abi? And if u claim ur koran is one, then those verses are valid. No more faking ppl with Mohamed framed history book call QURAN.

U want to educate who? And with wht?
My friend, u must ask ma broda in "ADAM and EVE" @sweetnecta to coach u on hw to manage arguement wit me.
He has the skills, tell him to pass u some grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Non-muslim Muslims And The Jihad Against The West by plappville(f): 6:46pm On Dec 05, 2011
davidylan:
couldnt have said it any better - the only defence against islam is full scale, no-holds-barred nuclear war to wipe these vermin off the face of the earth to go meet their allah.
Thou shalt not kill. Gen. 9.6 · Lev. 24.17 · Mt. 5.21 ; 19.18 · Mk. 10.19 · Lk. 18.20 · Rom. 13.9 · Jas. 2.11

Those who kill ve no fear of God. Do not danse like them!
Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Practices In The Bible Unknown To Christians by plappville(f): 6:39pm On Dec 05, 2011
He may be a new convert or so, his replies shows, that man/boy no know wetin Mohamed write inside the kuran grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Pride Goes Before A Fall by plappville(f): 6:34pm On Dec 05, 2011
The details link i followed teleported me to my favourite web, hahaha.
A very humble servant of God.

Thanks for sharing, God bless u.
Christianity Etc › Re: Islamic Practices In The Bible Unknown To Christians by plappville(f): 6:21pm On Dec 05, 2011
[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=817518.msg9699639#msg9699639 date=1323103721]because there is nothing for you to look for there. Quran is the most perfect book in the world no contradiction[/quote]Among all the Muslim in NL, u and @uplawal are the funniest, How will u say no contradiction in a book that made copy of the Jewish history and also copied from the bible itself? Isnt that the reason why the koran is so much errornic? when u copy from different angle, u must arrive at a confussing conclusion, that was exactly what Mohamed did, i wouldn't doubt if the Koran is in the bible becos the kuran made copy os the Old testament practice. I ve to do like my gran dad, but in a very modern way! grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 6:10pm On Dec 05, 2011
italo:
are you born of God?
What a surprising question from a believer!? As a christian u should know that the scriptures made us sons/daughters of God. See verses below,

1) John 1:12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the children of God, even to them that believe on his name:
2)Romans 8:16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.
3)Galatians 3:26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus


@Italo: lol, have you forgotten Jesus said to John, "behold your mother"? do u think Jesus doesnt want us to even call our biological fathers 'father'?

can i get your contact plappville?

email or bbm. i'd rili like to talk to you one on one
Yes i know Jesus said that;
As for ur request, i am sorry, i can't put my email in public.
U can give me urs if u don't mind, i will surely mail u if u.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 3:48pm On Dec 05, 2011
Rich4god:
The Holy Eucharist is the center of our worship, It is a command that we recieve from. I fill so happy seeing people castigate the catholic church, it realy shows that there is something special about it. Some thing you guys fail to recall is that without the catholic church, the population of the entire christendom would be less than 10% of the world population.
Who is kicking against the church? it is her false doctrines that is the case, u may see it as "e no mean" others mat see it the other way round. False doctrines is killing christianity gradually.


Matthew 7:13-14
(KJV)
13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 3:36pm On Dec 05, 2011
italo:
@plappville, did you actually remove that thread? Pls tell me I'm wrong. That would be very shameful.
Which thread are u talking about? I ve not remove anything plz which thread? but why are u saying shameful when u ve not confirm from me, i don't know what u are talking about plzzzzzzzz!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 3:34pm On Dec 05, 2011
italo:
the reason is that  you claim that a born-again does not sin, so i am asking you as a born-again if you have sinned since you became born-again so that i can actually have one example of a human being who doesnt sin. it will help me to know if you actually meant what you said or you were just joking.

why dont you just answer yes or no. see how we are already derailing this wonderful thread.

my sweetheart, just a yes or a no, *kisses n hugs*
This is my answer to u dear, a born again has no interest to sin, when u throw away ur old clothes, will u go back searching at the bin to rewear it back? Its also like eating ones vomit.

See what the scriptures teaches, and i believe every born-again put this in practice.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. I work with this very verse, so u ve gotten my answer.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 3:26pm On Dec 05, 2011
eliment:
i know because it lacks insight, take the case of mary as an example. You people keep attacking the catholics for honoring mary saying it is not biblical did you not read the bible when mary visited elizabeth. Elizabeth was filled with the holy spirit and said blessed at thou and blessed is the fruit of your womb. Prophet isaiah also prophesy about the virginity of mary now to cap it all read the book of rev. 11 v1- end and you will clearly see your ignorance, if the bible could refer to mary as the mother of all christian i.e those who obey christ then what counter proof do you have to discredit the honoring of mary.
Luke 11:27-30(KJV)
27And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.

28But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
How will u now interpret Jesus reaction towards the woman? Blessing Mary with ur heart could ve been enough, the contradiction is the image and the bowing down.

I am not sure if calling her a mother has means sense though. The bible says we should "call no man father?"
Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 3:10pm On Dec 05, 2011
italo:
And why are you avoiding the question I asked you in another thread since last week? That's how you anti-Catholics always behave. You act as if you know what you're saying and then when you are proved wrong, instead of admitting you are wrong and come out to light, you run away from the discussion and start a new deception.

Please answer this question:
I didn't even visit that thread after my first post, do u think i visit only NL that i will ve to go round all post each day?
My dear, i will always reply to ur questions if it required an answer. The topic of the thread u qouted was on Adultery or so, I believe my answer was, why should a born again do such. A born again has no right to sin because He is band with the fear of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 3:02pm On Dec 05, 2011
italo:
@plappville, hav u committed a sin since you became born-again? Pls answer! *in the appropriate thread*
If i tell u i ve commited or ve not commited will u trust me, u ve already labelled me a liar in the other thread so why do u want me to tell u if i commited sin or not? Is it important!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 2:59pm On Dec 05, 2011
italo:
In your previous thread you said it was the Catholic Church that compiled the Bible and you also admitted that they "canonized" it. And that means that they decided which books should and should not be in the Bible and after their compilation they declared it the holy, sacred and inerrant word of God by divine and ecclesiastical authority.

So why are you now saying "if the Bible is a Catholic book, " When you have already implied that in your statement here:
Did i deny that they were not the ones that compiled it? That they compiled it doesn make any superiority in the body of Christ. The OT book was brought together in a volume and this were translated from Hebrew to Greek, long before Christ came to earth.

Christ made used of the scriptures and never make the people feel, or tell things like Catholic do today, that people could accept the Scriptures only on the basis of the authority of those who gathered them and declared them to be inspired. Jesus tell the ppl to follow the OT Scriptures in the manner of infallible guide, not becos man or any group of men has sanctioned them as such. My point is that The words were of God not man, simply because they do the compiled and translation etc.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 2:42pm On Dec 05, 2011
frosbel:
The Catholic church is just False, period !!!
It may not be false at the early age of the church, but u know, Satan has done some manipulations, since then, certain things are outside biblica doctrine. I believe the church was in good direction before its corruptions came in place. In facts, To be a church leader, u should first be a servant. The Popes are aside this bible verse.

Mat 20:25 - 27) But Jesus called the disciples and said, "You know that the rulers of the gentiles lord it over them and their superiors act like tyrants over them. That's not the way it should be among you. Instead, whoever wants to be great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave. That's the way it is with the Son of Man. He did not come to be served, but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many people."
Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 2:31pm On Dec 05, 2011
eliment:
I can see clearly that people on this thread are people that lack the knowledge of what they claim to know i mean the bible . You read the bible as if it is just a novel without been able to apply the interpretation that comes from the spirit
How do u know, if thier interpretations are not from the spirit, are u God?
Christianity Etc › Sin Will Play Its Game On U. by plappville(op):
(1 Peter 5:8 )Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

(Romans 6:12 )Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.


We must not allow sin rule over us. As believers we ve the power of the Holy Spirit to rebuke the influence of sin in our mortal bodies. Sin can talk to u if you allow it, but will u listen to "SIN"?, paying sin attention can be dangerious, we must know when its approaching, We ve the gifts to understand it. We just don't listen to it but stop it before it speaks.

We mest know that we hear Sin when it speak, it's just like somone ringing the door bell of your house.
U hear grrrrriiiinnnnn, u go open the door to see who, u may say welcome sir/ma by allowing it in .

Put your "mind" in place of the "door", do not open it. Don't even go close to the door to give conversation or see how SIN look like. Shut the door at its face and watch SIN go crazy.

My brethren, Sin no get anything good to offer u. Satan wen be the poisonous disgusting old serpent go come trick u, He go tell u say no wahala if u sin, He go begin show u some example of friends wen don sock inside sin,  He go tell u say dem no get problem at all. Eve for the bible Open her door and welcome oga Sin, that was why sin fit over power her.

U must not let sin play its game on u, U should be able to excommunicate sin from your entire life.
God bless.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Devine Permition:beat/hit Ur Wife! by plappville(op): 10:50am On Dec 05, 2011
[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=817561.msg9693774#msg9693774 date=1323040507]Tired of this christian, They are not only brainwashed, But they teach them to lie and manipulate things.[/quote]Noble Verses 4:34-36 "(34). Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

This is brainwashhuh?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 10:37am On Dec 05, 2011
Thank u for those clearly explained verses, God is the author of the Bible, not men. Its divinity is beyound!
Christianity Etc › Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by plappville(f): 1:16am On Dec 05, 2011
So u ve two Kuran? One real and one fake? Lols.
How funny, i ve given u what ur koran wrote, dont try t shy the truth away by bringing in real and fake undecided
Christianity Etc › The Catholic Church And Its Claims As The Bible Author? by plappville(op): 12:30am On Dec 05, 2011
The following list give a summation of what we have been trying to emphasize.
If the bible is a catholic book. Is the catholic church in the bible? Do they give us the "BIBLE"? If Yes,


1. Why does it condemn clerical dress? (Matt. 23:5-6).
2. Why does it teach against the adoration of Mary? (Luke 11:27-28).
3. Why does it show that all Christians are priests? (1 Pet. 2:5,9).
4. Why does it condemn the observance of special days? (Gal. 4:9-11).
5. Why does it teach that all Christians are saints? (1 Cor. 1:2).
6. Why does it condemn the making and adoration of images? (Ex. 20:4-5).
7. Why does it teach that baptism is immersion instead of pouring? (Col. 2:12).
8. Why does it forbid us to address religious leaders as "father"? (Matt. 23:9).
9. Why does it teach that Christ is the only foundation and not the apostle Peter? (1 Cor. 3:11).
10. Why does it teach that there is one mediator instead of many? (1 Tim. 2:5).
11. Why does it teach that a bishop must be a married man? (1 Tim. 3:2, 4-5).
12. Why is it opposed to the primacy of Peter? (Luke 22:24-27).
13. Why does it oppose the idea of purgatory? (Luke 16:26).
14. Why is it completely silent about infant baptism, instrumental music in worship, indulgences, confession to priests, the rosary, the mass, and many other things in the Catholic Church?
Christianity Etc › Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by plappville(f): 11:33pm On Dec 04, 2011
Hello, Now i see the Reason why Lagoshia always attack you when you manipulated things. Did they teach you that in church also? All what you type there are rubbish, Maybe you just make some Google search and copy them and paste here,  To help you more go tohuhhuh??
I dont see anything as in @lagosShia attacking me, mr bashy, u wanted ur kuran proof, u had them why acting ignorantly?
U think everyone is like u, sure i ve the internet, but not all history books with top secret u can access for free on line.
U can subscribe and buy a downloaded copy to read. Maybe u are the google copy type.
I copied ur koran/hadith verses for u, u must accept them, they are authentic and valid. Instead u behaving uncapable by bringing in LagosShia to ur argument.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Devine Permition:beat/hit Ur Wife! by plappville(op): 11:07pm On Dec 04, 2011
U ve qouted good verses that protects women interest in the bible, very intelligent of u. But no verse stated That a woman should be beaten, floged, stricked simply becos she may ve neglected her religion duties, refuses to meet up with intimate demands from the hubby etc grin grin, my dear it hurts so much when hidden truth is out.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Devine Permition:beat/hit Ur Wife! by plappville(op): 10:54pm On Dec 04, 2011
we further read hadiths and words of the Prophet (sa) without distortion by the christian missionaries who want to tarnish the image of Islam and our beloved Prophet (sa):
Tarnished u say? If there is any  tarnisher it should be Mohamed.
He signed a deal with the devil, he is trying to distroy christianity.
He started with Christ. He narrated evrythin perfectly to his advantage. But Thanks to education. People can read, those poor illitrate Northaners were easily brainwashed early enough because they couldnt read.
Looking at Mohammeds biography, u will just understand how devined the socalled prophet and his koran are all a framed crafting story.

We were made to understand that, The muslim law, ordered husband to strike his wife for som of the reasons below, but these reasons can be lead to a divorce as well. Although, not all muslim men will put in practice a dirty law of such. But the rascal once are well favoured sure.!

1: A wife must make herslf beautiful before her hubby.
2: If she refuses to meet his intimate demands
3: She leaves the home witout hubby's permission or for a (legitimate reason)
- She neglects her religious duties
Christianity Etc › Re: A Devine Permition:beat/hit Ur Wife! by plappville(op): 9:59pm On Dec 04, 2011
The N.J. Dawood's translation is authentic and recognised by muslims.
No matter the version u are using, it end up refaring to women abuse in Islam.
Needless qouting in lenght Mr LagosShia.
Christianity Etc › Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by plappville(f): 9:30pm On Dec 04, 2011
@Uplawal: Insert Quote
@Plapplville, Old woman, you dnt have to fancy me,am a muslim woman that should not be fancied.
U know, its more advantage to be older grin grin!
Christianity Etc › Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by plappville(f): 9:23pm On Dec 04, 2011
so why turn blind on the hadiths and historical references that put Aisha's age at adulthood? i see,those dont suit your christian missionary activity of deceiving muslims and fooling yourself to feel good.

for your information,dont you ever try to get rude with me.if you try that i will mop the floor with your nonsense christianity.do you understand that?

talking about sexually exploitation,we can see how one of you gods (the ghost one) ra.ped your bible mary,without her consent,snatched her from old joseph and gave birth to a child without a father.that girl was only 12 years old.this story where a god would pregnant a girl to born a semi-god is absolutely pagan and nothing but intimate exploitation of the strong over the weak.infact that is what christianity is all about from time immemorial :"exploitation"!
why are u crying? Does it hurt u? Sorry oo, i thought ur heart wil be strong enough hahaha. Just one advise, do not do to others what u wont like others to do to u. I reacted becos @bashy_demy resquested proof from kuran.

To the bold, i can be rude to anyone if i want, but here i am not at all. If u think its rudeness to expose the truth, so be it. Do wht pleases u, do u ve more links? I told u i needed more plz do fast.
Christianity Etc › Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by plappville(f): 9:14pm On Dec 04, 2011
You are funny, [/b]I say give me proof from the Holy Quran you are give me Hadith.  I always challenge you and give you proof from your bible. Hadith is like a book written by some men after the death of the Holy prophet. So if you don't have proof from the Holy Quran then your accusation hold no water and will be thrown pout as Tinubu case was thrown out of the CCT
See how funny i am, here are kuranic qoutes, [b]( FROM THE QURAN :- 33:50
"Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty;, "wink

 A verse is for Mohammad.  allah allows Him to Be Intimate with his slave girls.

Mohamad Were Intimate with a slave girl named Mariyam.  He also knew  another slave girl of his - Rayhana.
 
Mariyam was a Christian slave, she was given to Mohamad as a gift by theEgyptian governor. 
Muhamad got her pregnant and she gave birth to a son.  mohamed had to marry her. 
the baby died 18 months later.

FROM THE QURAN: - 70:22-30
 "Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord);  who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them:  he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor, "
A verse for u muslim men, it shows u should know your wives( normal) and also u should know slave girls.

U want more koranic proof??
Christianity Etc › A Devine Permition:beat/hit Ur Wife! by plappville(op): 8:24pm On Dec 04, 2011
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

Qur'an (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath, "  Allah is telling Job to beat his wife.
 

From the Hadith:
 
Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her.  Her skin was bruised so badly that she it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing.  Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.
 
Bukhari (72:715) - "Aisha said, 'I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women'"  This is Muhammad's own wife complaining of the abuse that the women of her religions suffer relative to other women.
 
Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission.  Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."
 
Muslim (9:3506) - Muhammad's father-in-laws (Abu Bakr and Umar) amused him by slapping his wives (Aisha and Hafsa) for annoying him.  According to the Hadith, the prophet of Islam laughed upon hearing this.


I thought women are most respected as cliamed by NL muslims shocked shocked
Christianity Etc › Re: Demolishing The Falsehood Of Christianity And Its Bible by plappville(f): 8:14am On Dec 04, 2011
THE REASON BEHIND THE FABRICATIONS THAT AISHA WAS 9 YEARS WAS GIVEN AS YOU CAN SEE IN MY POST FROM ANOTHER THREAD BELOW:
Stop decieving urself, the hadith gave details on every bit of Mohamed, it is a valid book of the muslim dont come and fake ppl who dont read. do u think u love or know mohamed better than his messengers? U people wented prove, here they are, more may come from bith koran written by mohamed himself claiming it was a god telling him on what to write. U people are Pagans. That is the truth. See how child sexually exploitation is to islam undecided

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