₦airaland Forum

obawinner:
Azikiwe was not truthful in his recollection of archived Nigerian history, which is why you opined Awo started being conservative. The cracks were evident; all the other geozones were advocating self-determination. Nigerian politics has never been like US politics since amalgamation. Stop making this mistake, haven't you learned enough? Zik admittedly should have been fighting for the people he advocated for and not selfishly going on voyages of no return in contesting elections outside his region.

Things Zik/bello/awo saw in 1949, we still see in 2023: he was an ethnic leader fighting ethnic interests through falsified propanganda (like we saw during the election), but he fretted and panicked with a lot of fears of what might be if Northerners succeeded in seceding or if the West were politically united.
Truly, Azikiwe was an idealist. Nigeria will never ever be ready for his far-seeing ideas. I kind of feel bad for the man as his ideas put us in this mess we find ourselves. He wanted Nigeria to be great through his ethnic lens.

Everyone has learned lessons, and some have smartly applied reality to their stakes in Nigeria. Some won't, so they keep pointing fingers of betrayals.

That's your biased opinion. Here are what those not biased have to say:

advanceDNA:
There is nothing spiritual and psychological in running from financial responsibility.... Money is hard to make ...pvssy is easy to contribute

If not psychologcal/spiritual explain why most women intentionally tamp down their own ambition so men can be men

Sharpsharp00123:
oga answer d question

Can u igbos allow a Fulani b a governor in anambra?

Yes or no

I already answered the question. If NCNC had nominated a Fulani man detribalised like Zik, he'd have been easily elected governor of East in a landslide. Also, military can appoint anybody and you must allow it wether you likevit or not!

BRATISLAVA:
It's funny because what you are telling them is the truth. Give a man money and the next thing us to have 20 girlfriends and if none of them want him, it is 20 prostitutes to lavish his new found wealth on. Or to marry women to spend the money on. Half of their fantasy constitutes having a lot of women. Women to spend on.

It is only here they come to demonize women for wanting money, when all their validation is to give women money as a show of strength.

It is funny because why are you making such posts all over the thread? Lol. It's polite, but what is the activism there?

Now you get it!!
Do you really think most men can make more money than us if not that we codedly want it that way? We instinctively tamp down our own ambition, we sacrifice just so men can be men.. That’s why it is so annoying to us if despite all that we still find ourselves richer than our man!

obawinner:
but when he lost, he went to the east to overthrow Eyo ita Giwa to become the eastern leader.
I will suggest you wind down this manipulative political machinery; it brings you more ethnic stereotypes than goodwill. It is 2023; people are awake, conscious, and more informed of your manipulative politics than ever.

Exactly - it is 2023 and people are much more tribalised, thanks to what Awo started. But back then Nigerian politics was like US. The dominant thing was party affiliation NOT ethnicity. I know it's hard to believe, looking at the climate of today!

BRATISLAVA:


Lol!

I don't see what's funny. If you work hard and finally have some money, tell me something more satisfying you can do with some of it than give it to a woman

Iamzik:
All na scope. I once confronted a female friend who was very rich but was tormenting her husband who can barely get by. Most Women worship money. Alot of women troubling their husbands actually have enough money of their own to live comfortably but No they must collect from the husband. Una wan carry the money go heaven??🤣🤣

It is not what you think!! Mostly we're helping you be a man by collecting that money, though we have our own. If we're not there to take it what will you do with it?? If you work hard and finally have some money, if there is no woman to give it to, what good is it to you. We prepare ourselves and make ourselves available to be given the money - something you should really thank us for if you think about it

Iamzik:
Well MOST of you are about to wake up to reality.
The world has changed! This is not your parent or grandparent 1970 generation.

No man wants a liability. Men enjoy spending other people's money as much as women enjoy it.
My philosophy is both man and woman should contribute to the home according to their capacity/income.

The generation of "my money is my money while your money is our money" is gone...

As in Otilo...

Men misunderstand. It is not about material stuff, it is mostly psychological and spiritual. Remember, the issue is why we would rather pray that our husbands be wealthy before praying that we be wealthy ourselves

advanceDNA:
Sigh....no one ask you to give ur husband...l most men don't even want to collect from their wives because u women end up making a fuss about it
See.... at the end of the day, U are just buttressing my point in other words.....Of course....it's sweeter when u are not responsible for what puts food on the table and buys the luxuries of life.......it's still comes down to not being responsible and wanting things handed to you...

Imagine someone eating 70k food because it's coming from someone else's pocket...

It's not what you think my dear. It is mostly psychological and spiritual, it is not about material wealth. It's like MOST of us prefer helping our men be dominant even if we can dominate them

advanceDNA:
It's because u guys are naturally lazy, and don't like being responsible for anything.... U want everything cheaply handed over to you...

Not at all. For MOST of us, everything is just sweeter that way, much more than when we're the ones giving our husband

advanceDNA:
If most Nigerian women were given a wish that will come true... they would rather wish for a man that is rich, instead of wishing for their own truck load of money....

This is actually true. But it's because we want the man to be the man. If the money comes to us the relationship will not be as sweet

Sharpsharp00123:
ok I agree with u on zik

Now answer my question

Can u igbos allow a Fulani man become a governor of anambra?


Please don run away, answer this question

That's the whole point - people like you and Awolowo find it hard to believe there are people who don't think in terms of tribe. Initially Nigerians focused on party, not tribe, until people like Awo introduced tribalism - which is why he is regarded father of tribalism in Nigerian politics - by every tribe!
If NCNC had nominated a Fulani man detribalised like Zik, he'd have been easily elected governor of East in a landslide

Sharpsharp00123:
but do u know that an igbo person was even d vc of university of Ibadan then n igbos were occupying every top position in Yoruba land?

Will u igbos allow a non igbo to b d governor of anambra?

Abeg answer that question with all sincerity

😅He keeps trying to ascertain my tribe. Keep trying.
Zik at the time did not view himself as primarily Igbo, neither did Nigerians view him as such - except people like Awo!

Raskimonojendor:
Are you insinuating Zik to be a northerner? if not, ibos are also quick to equate Awolowo to Yorubas.

Well, Awolowo was totally Yoruba, as Bello was totally Northerner. I honestly dont think at the time Zik considered himself primarily Igbo, neither did Nigerians view him as such. Let's not forget he spoke all three languages and grew up in the North.

As you can see from below, he was always trying to downplay differences of the tribes

Sharpsharp00123:
u igbos n your greed

There are 3 regions in Nigeria with every tribe ruling over their region

A northerner is d northern region ruler
A south easterner controls south east
But a south easterner also wants to rule over south west

Does that make sense to u?

There are 3 people n 3 things but one greedy one wants to take 2 out of 3 not minding if one doesn’t have any

Igbos greed introduced tribalism to Nigeria

I don't think it was Igbos per se. I think it was ZIK! I honestly dont think at the time he primarily viewed himself as Ibo.
Also Biden is from the smallest state and a Catholic, which is less than ¼ of US. By your tribalistic mindset he shouldn't be President

Ibrahimcoomasie:
Even though this is different from the reason given by Azikiwe himself in his autobiography.

The circle is further proof why Nigeria is in a mess today..Aside fighting Awolowo and Balewa to ensure that a secession was not included in the constitution, so there is now this claim (your circles) again that he joined the North to ensure Nigeria stayed as one. This is disgraceful. The further explains why the Igbos always play second fiddle to the Fulanis.

I think the mistake people make is equating Zik with Igbos. If you, as a Yoruba, grew up in the East and speak Igbo as fluently as any Igbo man, would you have same mindset as a typical Yoruba? Would you want the East to secede? Zik clearly had his own agenda, and had very good reasons for having it!

Note the circled

LordGuru1:
We know your trademark, bloody Igbo Liar! Usual manipulative deceiver! OP's write-up is very accurate and sincere. Yoruba Youths are no more falling for your deceptions and manipulations as in the past. It is you that is wishing the truth of your ulterior motive remains covered. As usual you try to twist narrative to deceive people here. Don't get us started with the screen of Real Truths, not the manipulative one that you posted. We Yoruba Youths of this Era have started researching all the hidden historical truths. If you don't have the manipulative deceitful Igbo nature, see these attachments and you will thank OP.

Lol😅 You seem very passionate about this. I couldn't care less, I'm only interested in the truth being told.

Here's an article that tells the TRUTH, by a Yoruba in a national non-Ibo publication:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/businessday.ng/columnist/article/how-nigeria-walked-into-a-disastrous-independence-and-why-azikiwe-never-became-prime-minister/%3famp=1

WealthyNigerian:
The Amala brouhaha has once again betrayed the ulterior motive of those that tried to force Obi on Nigerians

As a non-tribal unbiased observer, I'd say your write-up is very biased and deceptively misleading. Here below are what some non-Ibos and fellow minorities have to say:

descarado:
That is the origin of homo.

He will get a man that will give it to him through his bum.
And tomorrow come and tell us he is liberated.

How come you know all this?
Hmmmm

Chimarto:
hold it there don't even start that story.....he is topical Yoruba man

Prove it.
When I said NOBODY knows where Tinubu is from did you see me use a smiley face?
For all we know he is Ibo

Lovemeharder:
Sometimes the way we plan life is not how it goes. May God see you through.

So true. Reminds of this quote

eniolorunfe:
She can do both. The goal is to be able to generate more than enough income to sustain herself. With time she can choose to focus on whichever provides her with the most income if she wants.

You have a point, however I think something like twisting hair is something one ought have affinity for, naturally enjoy, and probably have been doing since pre-teen, otherwise it's bound to be drudgery. I think she'll find enough to do intellectually - I'm always seeing ads for tutors. I think there's a serious market for home tutors for children

eniolorunfe:
Learn how to make hair… twisting, braids etc. If you have a daughter use her hair to learn. Watch you tube videos to learn. Hair making is one business that will always fetch you money. You don’t need to learn how to make all styles. You can go to clients houses or they can come to you. Learn styles that doesn’t need you having a salon. Women will always do their hair. With time, you can learn how to do manicure and pedicure or even how to do make up etc. This is one sure income source if you put your mind to it.

She's a teacher and has intellectual bent, you don’t think she's better off doing content writing or editing online, instead of working with her hands?

As your signature says, you are more than a conqueror, my sister. This too shall pass and you'll emerge better and brighter. You just have to get through this short rough period

Johnn87:
My dear CONFUSED friend,
when people post somebody and it's
NOT YOUR BROKE MOTHER but Alakija who has held the Forbes spot 2014;2015;2016;2017;2018; 2019 ,"in a discussion of Africa's wealthiest Women who have once or twice usurped Oprah,"

https://www.forbes.com/profile/folorunsho-alakija/

check it very well again to ensure .
it's not Your broke mother or the assets of all generations of your full broke political activist family combined, which are NOT 🚭 up to $B as valued by Forbes. NOT NOW, NOT BEFORE,NOT EVER that was posted .
so you don't keep making an even bigger fool of yourself than you already appear..

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I don't remember posting your BROKE MOTHER or YOUR BROKE POLITICAL ACTIVIST FAMILY & BROKE GENEALOGY in the discussion. The only female who was posted in addition to Alakija in the discussion, was DJ cuppy who has private Jet that jets her to London from Nigeria.

So U expect me to bring up your broke mother,broke girlfriend/wife & broke sisters in the conversation, and you had to jump in unsolicited.
Go find something to do with your life.
Now get the fvck off my mentions & get lost.

My totally, hopelessly confused and lying friend, I'm quite sure Alakija doesn't need your lies. She hasn't been a billionaire since 2021, so what?? Run along, find something to do with your own lying, pathetic life!!
Bye byeeee!

AMEN!!

Johnn87:
My dear illiterate friend, when people post somebody and it's
NOT YOUR BROKE MOTHER but Alakija who has held the Forbes spot 2014;2015;2016;2017;2018; 2019 ,in a discussion of Africa's wealthiest Women who have once or twice usurped Oprah,

https://www.forbes.com/profile/folorunsho-alakija/

check it very well again to ensure .
it's not Your broke mother or the assets of all generations of your full broke political activist family combined, which are NOT 🚭 up to $B as valued by Forbes. NOT NOW, NOT BEFORE,NOT EVER that was posted .
so you don't keep making an even bigger fool of yourself than you already appear..

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So U expect me to bring up your broke mother in the conversation, and you had to jump in unsolicited. Now get the fvck off my mentions & get lost.

My dear CONFUSED friend, when you post something, check the date, so you don't keep making an even bigger fool of yourself than you already appear.
Alakija is a good woman and very rich, but she doesn't need you to LIE for her. She hasn't been a billionaire since 2021, and I'm sure she's quite okay with that!
Go find something to do with your own life!

Ok, let's analyze this. If humanity had been applying this principle most modern amenities would disappear. Who needs WC when you can shit in the bush. Who needs a car or even bike when you have your two legs, etc

Na lie. Musk gets information from a non-human source. That's why he can bet on things with all his money - because he's already been assured it would work!

Johnn87:

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My extremely brainless friend without IQ
I was not discussing about your broke mother but about Africa's powerfully wealthy women in the continent Not Abroad; who have made forbes and unseated Oprah Winfrey once or twice and the conversation could not be complete without mentioning Alakija; NOT YOUR BROKE MOTHER but Alakija who has held the Forbes spot 2014;2015;2016;2017;2018; 2019.
At least Forbes website has profile for Alakija .
https://www.forbes.com/profile/folorunsho-alakija/

Your mother's assets & the assets of your full family combined are NOT 🚭 up to $B as valued by Forbes. NOT NOW, NOT BEFORE,NOT EVER. So l do not give a fvck who you or your mother are.

But l have searched and searched for your broke mother on Forbes and cannot see any single mention of her, NOT before, NOT now , NOT ever and there will never be any mention of her., So U expect me to bring up your broke mother in the conversation, and you had to jump in unsolicited. Now get the fvck off my mentions & get lost.

My dear illiterate friend, when you post something, check the date, so you don't keep making an even bigger fool of yourself than you already appear.
Alakija is a good woman and very rich, but she doesn't need you to LIE for her. She hasn't been a billionaire since 2021, and I'm sure she's quite okay with that!

Johnn87:
My ignorant friend. Forbes knows Alakija and she is in their official site. Here is the link again.
https://www.forbes.com/profile/folorunsho-alakija/

But l have searched and searched for your broke mother on Forbes and cannot see any single mention of her, NOT before, NOT now , NOT ever and there will never be any mention of her., So U expect me to bring up your broke mother in the conversation, and you had to jump in unsolicited. Now get the fvck off my mentions & get lost.

My extremely low IQ friend, how can you search my mother when you don't know her name?
Alakija is rich but no longer a billionaire since 2021 according to Forbes. Capisce?