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OkCornel:
Of course they will, but the question here is

Are they your neighbor or your enemy?

As we have already settled, everyone is my Neighbour, first, Under Law!

Then my neighbour becomes disobedient to God. At this point, the matter is between him and God and I am not a party in this transaction.

It is when atop his first disobedience to God, he thereafter commits a further disobedience in attempting to harm me, (Direct Offence) then he becomes a Neighbour who I have lawfull grievance against and whom I report to The Law Giver that he has harmed me or sought my harm.

And because I reasonably see he desires to harm me even fatally, then I am entitled to reasonably say that my Neighbour has become my Enemy, for he seeks to harm me continuously.

And it is also because of these issues that God Also Established The Courts, so that they could resolve these issues rightly.

Dtruthspeaker:
As we have already settled, everyone is my Neighbour, first, Under Law!

Then my neighbour becomes disobedient to God. At this point, the matter is between him and God and I am not a party in this transaction.

It is when atop his first disobedience to God, he thereafter commits a further disobedience in attempting to harm me, (Direct Offence) then he becomes a Neighbour who I have lawfull grievance against and whom I report to The Law Giver that he has harmed me or sought my harm.

And because I reasonably see he desires to harm me even fatally, then I am entitled to reasonably say that my Neighbour has become my Enemy, for he seeks to harm me continuously.

And it is also because of these issues that God Also Established The Courts, so that they could resolve these issues rightly.

In other words, if you put yourself in the position of the attacked traveller in the parable of the Good Samaritan, the robbers who attacked you, and the Levite & Priest that ignored you are also your neighbors right?

Just to be very very clear I understand you.

Splinz:
Don't worry, I have so much time on my hands. So, I'd quote Matthew 5:43 for you again:

My friend, from where or who did the people hear that statement from? Who said it to them?

C'mon, I wasn't expecting this lame tactics from you. Or are those tenses too difficult to understand?

It's not to quote what Jesus said but to believe it. If Jesus said it and you don't believe it was said, but called it hearsay, then your problem is with Jesus not me.

So argue with Him since you think you know better than Him.

Again Splinz is feigning ignorance on this scripture and still asking which prophet or where God gave instructions to hate their enemies;

OkCornel:
@Splinz, I’m really keen on you showing us where in the Torah God instructed the Israelites to love the Amalekites or Moabites i.e. Israel’s enemies. I find it interesting that you conveniently you quoted Deuteronomy 23 v 7 but left out verses 3-6.

Deuteronomy 23 v 3-6;
3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the Lord, not even in the tenth generation.

4 For they did not come to meet you with bread and water on your way when you came out of Egypt, and they hired Balaam son of Beor from Pethor in Aram Naharaim to pronounce a curse on you.

5 However, the Lord your God would not listen to Balaam but turned the curse into a blessing for you, because the Lord your God loves you.

6 Do not seek a treaty of friendship with them as long as you live.


As a matter of fact, God even instructed a genocide to be carried out on the Amalekites. So much for “loving your enemies” hmmmn


1 Samuel 15 v 2-3;

2 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt

3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass

Perhaps it was a different person that instructed Israel to hate the Ammonites , Moabites and Amalekites.

Let me go and fetch some more scriptures

Shall we go through the book of Judges to see several instances of how the Israelites “loved” their enemies?

The Mosaic laws was given for just one purpose: to make the Israelites know that God's people must have the same line of thought on judicial decisions!
After the coming of Christ all those laws has become obsolete and Christ now became the law for God's people.

So Paul is saying that since he himself is a Jew he will subject himself to the laws of the Jews whenever he's in their midst in accordance with the Mosaic laws that binds Jews together as ONE under that law.
But whenever he's in the midst of gentiles who have nothing to do with those laws he will prove to be a free person as if there is no burden of laws on him yet he will make them know that he's under the laws of one Lord and Master (Christ Jesus)

OkCornel:
If Jesus didn’t bring any new laws,
Can those who claim this kindly explain what Paul meant here?
1 Corinthians 9 v 21;
21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law
If God’s law and Christ’s law are the same thing, why’s Paul laying a distinction between both in this scripture? Hmmm?

@Splinz can show us how the Israelites showed love to their enemies here;

Numbers 21 v 1-3;

1.When the Canaanite king of Arad, who lived in the Negev, heard that Israel was coming along the road to Atharim, he attacked the Israelites and captured some of them.
2 Then Israel made this vow to the Lord: “If you will deliver these people into our hands, we will totally destroy their cities.”
3 The Lord listened to Israel’s plea and gave the Canaanites over to them. They completely destroyed them and their towns; so the place was named Hormah.

See how the Israelites did not hate their enemy here too

Deuteronomy 20 v 16-17;
16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.

OkCornel:
In other words, if you put yourself in the position of the attacked traveller in the parable of the Good Samaritan, the robbers who attacked you, and the Levite & Priest that ignored you are also your neighbors right?

Just to be very very clear I understand you.

Yes! They are my neighbours who failed to come to my aid.

Dtruthspeaker:
Yes! They are my neighbours who failed to come to my aid.

Anyways, that’s clearly at odds with what the scripture states;

Luke 10 v 36-37

36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Whatever rocks your boat. But that’s your own description and understanding of who your neighbor is. I still can’t find any scriptural reference supporting that view.

PLEASE NOTE: The A-Z of this text is based solely on the 2 topic below and nothing else. If you haven't seen it, please do well to go through it in other to know what was/is discussed. Thank you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6611596/many-christians-only-know-law/8#103088995

https://www.nairaland.com/6611596/many-christians-only-know-law/8#103097696

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Dear friends, greetings.

As must have been noticed by y'all, I saw this thread and picked interest, came in and decided to share my views. Of course, straight out of the Bible.

So I picked on 2 of OkCornel's hammering comments based on the 2 heading above, which I saw was littered everywhere, as he keeps on repeating the same thing over and over again, even though repeated answers were equally provided by some of you here. Yet, OkCornel wouldn't stop. So I said, maybe he needed answers truly. So I took those 2 questions or topics and provided undisputed answers; provable, straight out of the Bible. But as common with skewed agents like him, he left substance and fundamentals of what was addressed, of which he asked for, to chase shadows instead, grasping at straws no matter how death they may be.

Jesusjnr2020 came and was all emotions and subtle blackmails like, "you think you know more than Jesus"? and so on. He also came up with ridiculous claims. He claimed it was "lack of knowledge that'd make someone not to accept "glaring Truth". And I asked, what kind of knowledge would make someone to stood so low in accepting what is obviously the wisdom of the Pharisees; an earthly teaching devoid of sound principles and the wisdom of God; no prove whatsoever, in clear violation of 1 Thessalonians 5:21, other than creating a law straight out of thin air, with no prove as scripture demands, that it was either Jesus or His Father that issued such law? Are you confusing "hearsays" and "traditions"; mere fables, with knowledge? Or do you have problem understanding simple tenses? Since then, Jesusjnr2020 has been running from pillar to post.

I also called on MaxInDHouse to come and give help to OkCornel who was obviously drowning. After all, they're allies; always tagging their selves. But Max disappointed greatly, he came but couldn't say anything, so he ran away. Of course I like what he did. I mean, it's more honorable to keep quiet than to make a fool out of oneself. He's not an ex soldier for nothing after all: he must have learned when to retreat. So in fairness, this text is fair to all parties.

There's no tactics and dodge games OkCornel hasn't employed. For example, he claimed that in Exodus 23:4, the love wasn't to the owner of the donkey but to the donkey itself, just as predicted. In essence, OkCornel is telling us that one would rather show love to an enemy's animal than to the enemy itself. This is just how warp and myopic he is.

In another example, he claimed or according to him, "basic logic", that God did not tell the Israelites to love the Egyptians and Edomites but to be in-between; neither loving nor hating, which according to him is called "neutrality". And I responded that look, I'm not aware of any such clause with God, that the commandment has always been "love", either to oneself or to a neighbor. So seeing that all his useless arguments were falling like a pack of cards, he quickly changed gear from the picked up topic of "showing in the Torah, (according to him), from Exodus to Deuteronomy, where God instructed Israel to love their enemies" to "Show where God instructed Israel to love the Ammonites, Midianites etc". In his head, the Egyptians and Edomites that God used as examples of Israel's enemies and instructed them to show love to these enemies, weren't valid enemies or weren't even enemies. How shameless can one be.

And then Matthew 5:43-44, OkCornel claimed that Jesus made a "demarcation between an enemy and a neighbor", and like others of such baseless arguments, this claim too was conveniently refuted and a very simple task was given to him to prove otherwise, because no such demarcation existed. Dear friends, up to this moment, this fellow has not touched that task with a long pole, but keep running from pillar to post. It must be noted that whilst at it, he has repeatedly tried to drag me into what I never have any discussion with him about; out of the scope of our discussion, which is the parable in Luke 10. At each attempts, he has failed miserably, whilst I remained focus and consistent on what is discussed. Whilst he keeps on seeing an enemy and neighbor in that beautiful parable, it's a very simple thing to prove if there was an enemy in that parable, i.e, if Jesus saw an enemy other than a "neighbor", but because I am instructed to answer not a fool according to his folly lest I be like him (Proverbs 26:4), I have refrained from it.

Now, here are my conclusions based on findings:

1. That OkCornel has no desire whatsoever in learning the truth, but thrives and seeks only stupid and foolish arguments which must be avoided (2 Timothy 2:23), also, a very dishonest fellow,

2. That this fellow promotes a god that was seen as unloving and very callous in the Old Testament, who only instructed Israel to kill, destroy and hate their enemies without showing them any love. But in the New Testament, this his god suddenly changed from a monster to a very loving god who now requires love for enemies. This is yet, another red flag. According to the God of the Old and New Testament in the Bible, He changed not (Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8 ). Obviously, OkCornel's god is a changing chameleon; very unstable.

3. Having given OkCornel ample opportunity to retrace his steps, of which he has failed to do so, it is advised and instructed that he should be avoided (Titus 3:10-11).

4. To all of you who have defended and stand firm in support of the truth, I salute y'all as a fellow traveller. Please, do well to keep the flag flying everywhere no matter the amount of intimidation from the camp of opposing forces.

5. I thank the thread owner, Jesusjnr2020, despite his ridiculous claims. And even him, OkCornel, but no thanks for allowing Satan to used him as a test practice. To MaxInDHouse, for being such a smart ex soldier. It is my hope and prayers that their darken hearts will shine forth light and their understanding enlightened.

Thank you.

OkCornel:
See how the Israelites did not hate their enemy here too

Deuteronomy 20 v 16-17;
16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.

I believe they will never respond to your question because it's obvious they don't understand what is going on!

Splinz:
PLEASE NOTE: The A-Z of this text is based solely on the 2 topic below and nothing else. If you haven't seen it, please do well to go through it in other to know what was/is discussed. Thank you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6611596/many-christians-only-know-law/8#103088995

https://www.nairaland.com/6611596/many-christians-only-know-law/8#103097696

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Dear friends, greetings.

As must have been noticed by y'all, I saw this thread and picked interest, came in and decided to share my views. Of course, straight out of the Bible.

So I picked on 2 of OkCornel's hammering comments based on the 2 heading above, which I saw was littered everywhere, as he keeps on repeating the same thing over and over again, even though repeated answers were equally provided by some of you here. Yet, OkCornel wouldn't stop. So I said, maybe he needed answers truly. So I took those 2 questions or topics and provided undisputed answers; provable, straight out of the Bible. But as common with skewed agents like him, he left substance and fundamentals of what was addressed, of which he asked for, to chase shadows instead, grasping at straws no matter how death they may be.

Jesusjnr2020 came and was all emotions and subtle blackmails like, "you think you know more than Jesus"? and so on. He also came up with ridiculous claims. He claimed it was "lack of knowledge that'd make someone not to accept "glaring Truth". And I asked, what kind of knowledge would make someone to stood so low in accepting what is obviously the wisdom of the Pharisees; an earthly teaching devoid of sound principles and the wisdom of God; no prove whatsoever, in clear violation of 1 Thessalonians 5:21, other than creating a law straight out of thin air, with no prove as scripture demands, that it was either Jesus or His Father that issued such law? Are you confusing "hearsays" and "traditions"; mere fables, with knowledge? Or do you have problem understanding simple tenses? Since then, Jesusjnr2020 has been running from pillar to post.

I also called on MaxInDHouse to come and give help to OkCornel who was obviously drowning. After all, they're allies; always tagging their selves. But Max disappointed greatly, he came but couldn't say anything, so he ran away. Of course I like what he did. I mean, it's more honorable to keep quiet than to make a fool out of oneself. He's not an ex soldier for nothing after all: he must have learned when to retreat. So in fairness, this text is fair to all parties.

There's no tactics and dodge games OkCornel hasn't employed. For example, he claimed that in Exodus 23:4, the love wasn't to the owner of the donkey but to the donkey itself, just as predicted. In essence, OkCornel is telling us that one would rather show love to an enemy's animal than to the enemy itself. This is just how warp and myopic he is.

In another example, he claimed or according to him, "basic logic", that God did not tell the Israelites to love the Egyptians and Edomites but to be in-between; neither loving nor hating, which according to him is called "neutrality". And I responded that look, I'm not aware of any such clause with God, that the commandment has always been "love", either to oneself or to a neighbor. So seeing that all his useless arguments were falling like a pack of cards, he quickly changed gear from the picked up topic of "showing in the Torah, (according to him), from Exodus to Deuteronomy, where God instructed Israel to love their enemies" to "Show where God instructed Israel to love the Ammonites, Midianites etc". In his head, the Egyptians and Edomites that God used as examples of Israel's enemies and instructed them to show love to these enemies, weren't valid enemies or weren't even enemies. How shameless can one be.

And then Matthew 5:43-44, OkCornel claimed that Jesus made a "demarcation between an enemy and a neighbor", and like others of such baseless arguments, this claim too was conveniently refuted and a very simple task was given to him to prove otherwise, because no such demarcation existed. Dear friends, up to this moment, this fellow has not touched that task with a long pole, but keep running from pillar to post. It must be noted that whilst at it, he has repeatedly tried to drag me into what I never have any discussion with him about; out of the scope of our discussion, which is the parable in Luke 10. At each attempts, he has failed miserably, whilst I remained focus and consistent on what is discussed. Whilst he keeps on seeing an enemy and neighbor in that beautiful parable, it's a very simple thing to prove if there was an enemy in that parable, i.e, if Jesus saw an enemy other than a "neighbor", but because I am instructed to answer not a fool according to his folly lest I be like him (Proverbs 26:4), I have refrained from it.

Now, here are my conclusions based on findings:

1. That OkCornel has no desire whatsoever in learning the truth, but thrives and seeks only stupid and foolish arguments which must be avoided (2 Timothy 2:23), also, a very dishonest fellow,

2. That this fellow promotes a god that was seen as unloving and very callous in the Old Testament, who only instructed Israel to kill, destroy and hate their enemies without showing them any love. But in the New Testament, this his god suddenly changed from a monster to a very loving god who now requires love for enemies. This is yet, another red flag. According to the God of the Old and New Testament in the Bible, He changed not (Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8 ). Obviously, OkCornel's god is a changing chameleon; very unstable.

3. Having given OkCornel ample opportunity to retrace his steps, of which he has failed to do so, it is advised and instructed that he should be avoided (Titus 3:10-11).

4. To all of you who have defended and stand firm in support of the truth, I salute y'all as a fellow traveller. Please, do well to keep the flag flying everywhere no matter the amount of intimidation from the camp of opposing forces.

5. I thank the thread owner, Jesusjnr2020, despite his ridiculous claims. And even him, OkCornel, but no thanks for allowing Satan to used him as a test practice. To MaxInDHouse, for being such a smart ex soldier. It is my hope and prayers that their darken hearts will shine forth light and their understanding enlightened.

Thank you.

Isn’t it amazing how Splinz turned a blind eye to all these verses in the Old Testament regarding how the Israelites treated their enemies?

Deuteronomy 20 v 16-17;
16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.

Numbers 21 v 1-3;

1.When the Canaanite king of Arad, who lived in the Negev, heard that Israel was coming along the road to Atharim, he attacked the Israelites and captured some of them.
2 Then Israel made this vow to the Lord: “If you will deliver these people into our hands, we will totally destroy their cities.”
3 The Lord listened to Israel’s plea and gave the Canaanites over to them. They completely destroyed them and their towns; so the place was named Hormah

Deuteronomy 23 v 3-6;
3 No Ammonite or Moabite or any of their descendants may enter the assembly of the Lord, not even in the tenth generation.

4 For they did not come to meet you with bread and water on your way when you came out of Egypt, and they hired Balaam son of Beor from Pethor in Aram Naharaim to pronounce a curse on you.

5 However, the Lord your God would not listen to Balaam but turned the curse into a blessing for you, because the Lord your God loves you.

6 Do not seek a treaty of friendship with them as long as you live.

1 Samuel 15 v 2-3;

2 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt

3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass


Can anyone point out anywhere in the New Testament we can see something similar after Jesus addressed the issue of loving your enemies hmmm?

Splinz can’t address these verses, neither can he show us where enemies can also be considered as neighbors too so therefore I’m still at a loss on what he’s rejoicing about.

What a pity.

MaxInDHouse:
I believe they will never respond to your question because it's obvious they don't understand what is going on!

Splinz is simply turning a blind eye to these obvious things.

I need Splinz to show us where in the scriptures an enemy is also classified as a neighbor.

I have consistently used Matthew 5 v 43-47 and Luke 10 v 36-37 to describe how an enemy is different from a neighbor.

Can Splinz bring scriptures to show us where an enemy is also a neighbor? No! All he has to offer are his ideas with no scriptural reference showing us where an enemy is also a neighbor. None at all.

This is quite hilarious.

OkCornel:
Anyways, that’s clearly at odds with what the scripture states;

Luke 10 v 36-37

36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Whatever rocks your boat. But that’s your own description and understanding of who your neighbor is. I still can’t find any scriptural reference supporting that view.

We both understand ourselves here for Christ in that statement is simply saying among those neighbours, which one of them Complied with The Law?

And which one of them was a neighbour Right fully not wrong fully.

And You remember, Christ is Always huge on who did the Right!

To be honest with you, I thought you were a serious person but didn't know you were a clown.

Obviously this shows that you have no straw left to clutch at, hence your desperation mode is fully activated.

Probably you're still searching for where what Jesus said was in Bible because you don't believe that Jesus Words was enough to draw a conclusion that it was there. You called what Jesus said hearsay, tradition, fables, so it's obvious that your problem is not with me but with Jesus.

I have done what Jesus commanded me to do which is to teach men to observe His Law (commandments), of which that is one of them, so you can do what you like with it. Your problem.

Meanwhile, keep searching though for where what Jesus said was said in the Bible. Try Google search as well. Maybe one day you'd finally find it, Lol.

Such a clown!

You might know the letters as the Pharisees, but you're obviously bereft of true knowledge which can be given by God alone.

Splinz:
PLEASE NOTE: The A-Z of this text is based solely on the 2 topic below and nothing else. If you haven't seen it, please do well to go through it in other to know what was/is discussed. Thank you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6611596/many-christians-only-know-law/8#103088995

https://www.nairaland.com/6611596/many-christians-only-know-law/8#103097696

---

Dear friends, greetings.

As must have been noticed by y'all, I saw this thread and picked interest, came in and decided to share my views. Of course, straight out of the Bible.

So I picked on 2 of OkCornel's hammering comments based on the 2 heading above, which I saw was littered everywhere, as he keeps on repeating the same thing over and over again, even though repeated answers were equally provided by some of you here. Yet, OkCornel wouldn't stop. So I said, maybe he needed answers truly. So I took those 2 questions or topics and provided undisputed answers; provable, straight out of the Bible. But as common with skewed agents like him, he left substance and fundamentals of what was addressed, of which he asked for, to chase shadows instead, grasping at straws no matter how death they may be.

Jesusjnr2020 came and was all emotions and subtle blackmails like, "you think you know more than Jesus"? and so on. He also came up with ridiculous claims. He claimed it was "lack of knowledge that'd make someone not to accept "glaring Truth". And I asked, what kind of knowledge would make someone to stood so low in accepting what is obviously the wisdom of the Pharisees; an earthly teaching devoid of sound principles and the wisdom of God; no prove whatsoever, in clear violation of 1 Thessalonians 5:21, other than creating a law straight out of thin air, with no prove as scripture demands, that it was either Jesus or His Father that issued such law? Are you confusing "hearsays" and "traditions"; mere fables, with knowledge? Or do you have problem understanding simple tenses? Since then, Jesusjnr2020 has been running from pillar to post.

I also called on MaxInDHouse to come and give help to OkCornel who was obviously drowning. After all, they're allies; always tagging their selves. But Max disappointed greatly, he came but couldn't say anything, so he ran away. Of course I like what he did. I mean, it's more honorable to keep quiet than to make a fool out of oneself. He's not an ex soldier for nothing after all: he must have learned when to retreat. So in fairness, this text is fair to all parties.

There's no tactics and dodge games OkCornel hasn't employed. For example, he claimed that in Exodus 23:4, the love wasn't to the owner of the donkey but to the donkey itself, just as predicted. In essence, OkCornel is telling us that one would rather show love to an enemy's animal than to the enemy itself. This is just how warp and myopic he is.

In another example, he claimed or according to him, "basic logic", that God did not tell the Israelites to love the Egyptians and Edomites but to be in-between; neither loving nor hating, which according to him is called "neutrality". And I responded that look, I'm not aware of any such clause with God, that the commandment has always been "love", either to oneself or to a neighbor. So seeing that all his useless arguments were falling like a pack of cards, he quickly changed gear from the picked up topic of "showing in the Torah, (according to him), from Exodus to Deuteronomy, where God instructed Israel to love their enemies" to "Show where God instructed Israel to love the Ammonites, Midianites etc". In his head, the Egyptians and Edomites that God used as examples of Israel's enemies and instructed them to show love to these enemies, weren't valid enemies or weren't even enemies. How shameless can one be.

And then Matthew 5:43-44, OkCornel claimed that Jesus made a "demarcation between an enemy and a neighbor", and like others of such baseless arguments, this claim too was conveniently refuted and a very simple task was given to him to prove otherwise, because no such demarcation existed. Dear friends, up to this moment, this fellow has not touched that task with a long pole, but keep running from pillar to post. It must be noted that whilst at it, he has repeatedly tried to drag me into what I never have any discussion with him about; out of the scope of our discussion, which is the parable in Luke 10. At each attempts, he has failed miserably, whilst I remained focus and consistent on what is discussed. Whilst he keeps on seeing an enemy and neighbor in that beautiful parable, it's a very simple thing to prove if there was an enemy in that parable, i.e, if Jesus saw an enemy other than a "neighbor", but because I am instructed to answer not a fool according to his folly lest I be like him (Proverbs 26:4), I have refrained from it.

Now, here are my conclusions based on findings:

1. That OkCornel has no desire whatsoever in learning the truth, but thrives and seeks only stupid and foolish arguments which must be avoided (2 Timothy 2:23), also, a very dishonest fellow,

2. That this fellow promotes a god that was seen as unloving and very callous in the Old Testament, who only instructed Israel to kill, destroy and hate their enemies without showing them any love. But in the New Testament, this his god suddenly changed from a monster to a very loving god who now requires love for enemies. This is yet, another red flag. According to the God of the Old and New Testament in the Bible, He changed not (Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8 ). Obviously, OkCornel's god is a changing chameleon; very unstable.

3. Having given OkCornel ample opportunity to retrace his steps, of which he has failed to do so, it is advised and instructed that he should be avoided (Titus 3:10-11).

4. To all of you who have defended and stand firm in support of the truth, I salute y'all as a fellow traveller. Please, do well to keep the flag flying everywhere no matter the amount of intimidation from the camp of opposing forces.

5. I thank the thread owner, Jesusjnr2020, despite his ridiculous claims. And even him, OkCornel, but no thanks for allowing Satan to used him as a test practice. To MaxInDHouse, for being such a smart ex soldier. It is my hope and prayers that their darken hearts will shine forth light and their understanding enlightened.

Thank you.

jesusjnr2020:
To be honest with you, I thought you were a serious person but didn't know you were a clown.

Obviously this shows that you have no straw left to clutch at, hence your desperation mode is fully activated.

Probably you're still searching for where what Jesus said was in Bible because you don't believe that Jesus Words was enough to draw a conclusion that it was there. You called what Jesus said hearsay, tradition, fables, so it's obvious that your problem is not with me but with Jesus.

I have done what Jesus commanded me to do which is to teach men to observe His Law (commandments), of which that is one of them, so you can do what you like with it. Your problem.

Meanwhile, keep searching though for where what Jesus said was said in the Bible. Try Google search as well. Maybe one day you'd finally find it, Lol.

Such a clown!

Did you notice Splinz went on a full strawman rampage to falsely accuse me of painting God in the Old Testament to be bloodthirsty.

He never addressed the points I raised on how the Israelites were instructed by God to treat the Ammonites, Amalekites, Moabites, Canaanites etc.

And how we can never see which enemies were treated in a similar manner in the New Testament, after Jesus’ command to love our enemies.

He can’t show any scriptures that defines your enemy to be your neighbor as well. Just plenty paragraphs of his own ideas with no scriptural reference.

Dude wants to play the roundabout game and play a strawman accusing me of funny things going on in his head.

What a “Christian” he is…

OkCornel:
Did you notice Splinz went on a full strawman rampage to falsely accuse me of painting God in the Old Testament to be bloodthirsty.

He never addressed the points I raised on how the Israelites were instructed by God to treat the Ammonites, Amalekites, Moabites, Canaanites etc.

And how we can never see which enemies were treated in a similar manner in the New Testament, after Jesus’ command to love our enemies.

He can’t show any scriptures that defines your enemy to be your neighbor as well. Just plenty paragraphs of his own ideas with no scriptural reference.

Dude wants to play the roundabout game and play a strawman accusing me of funny things going on in his head.

What a “Christian” he is…

Abeg leave that one. I thought it was someone serious, i never knew he was not different from the clown he supported here.

He may have been invited here to offer some support, but it backfired when his deficiency in true knowledge got exposed, hence he lost his cool and had to resort to desperate measures to try and distract from that.

The Truth surely has a way of bringing out the true color of men.

God bless.