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Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by seunny4lif(m): 4:19pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
Material resources they needed full Far East Russia but the Japanese don’t even know that USSR have that kind of resources Modrov: |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by Truvelisback(m): 4:20pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg:Ever since they defeated Japan, they av been dreaded by many countries if not all. 1 Like |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by DoggoneDogg: 4:20pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
Modrov: 1944 (by then Russian victory was clear). Why didn't the so-called "Allies" agree in 1941 when Soviet men were dying in their millions across Siberia? You're further validating my point. The West were mere opportunists. 1 Like |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by DoggoneDogg: 4:22pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
sammy329: The Korean War is simple boy. US wanted to install puppet Seoul as the sole government. It failed. The day US pulls its useless military base from South Korea, Pyongyang will absorb South Korea in less than a month. Rubbish!! |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by DoggoneDogg: 4:23pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
Techguy96: Nigeria can defeat US without Dullhari in charge. The US are paper tigers. Their so-called Marines only joined for educational, financial and social benefits. Shake them & they will scram. That's why Viet Cong rice farmers bleeped them up with chopsticks & Kung fu despite their advanced tech. 2 Likes |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by Nobody: 4:30pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg: Actually, in fairness, the Russians wanted a second front in Europe right from the time they joined the Allies.... In November, 1943, Joseph Stalin, Winston Churchill and Franklin D. Roosevelt met together in Teheran, Iran, to discuss military strategy and post-war Europe. Ever since the Soviet Union had entered the war, Stalin had been demanding that the Allies open-up a second front in Europe. Churchill and Roosevelt argued that any attempt to land troops in Western Europe would result in heavy casualties. Until the Soviet's victory at Stalingrad in January, 1943, Stalin had feared that without a second front, Germany would defeat them.. Sauce: Second front To add, the Soviet experience in the war between 1941-2 was hampered by Stalin purging many experienced generals during the wasteful late 1930's Great Purge...and the German invasion caught him somewhat unprepared.(Though he had thought he had signed a non-aggression treaty with the Nazis...should have known better than to trust those two faced jokers..) As stated in the quote...Stalingrad was the turining point. Also, the USSR got a lot of aid...including weapons and materiel...from the USA and the UK...the former via Lend lease. (The Soviets were still building up their industry in the 1930's, after Stalin's famous 1931 speech..also somewhat prophetic... calling for massive industrialization). I have detailed Lend lease contributions upthread. Also, the USSR was able to restart a lot of its industry behind the Urals...well out of the reach of German bombers . Then the US and UK's efforts in North Africa...)Operation Torch)..tied down a lot of Axis troops in North Africa that should have been fighting in the East. The invasion of Italy by the US and UK in 1943 tied up more Axis troops. (Infact Germany was fighting on multiple fronts by the end of 1943 to be frank). d-DAY IN 1944 was the icing on the cake. 2 Likes |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by Techguy96(m): 4:30pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg:Na so |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by Emmerlee(m): 4:34pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
joyandfaith: Well done. Thanks for educating that propagandist and liar. He's doing it on purpose though, they never change. Would have explained a lot more for those who do not know, it's just a bit difficult making out time to write exhaustively . |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by DoggoneDogg: 4:35pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
Modrov: Your post states clearly that the second front never happened until Soviet victory at Stalingrad in 1943. Every WWII buff knows Stalingrad was the turning point for Stalin just as Midway was the turning point for the US in the Pacific Theatre. At this point I'm at a loss at what this debate is about now |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by b3llo(m): 4:36pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
DubaiLandLord:i luv ur analysis. U answered some unanswered question of mine regarding WWII. If nt for American efforts Japan would have swiftly knocked down Russia. That was y Japan went to attack the bigger fish (USA). 2 Likes |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by Nobody: 4:37pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg: In 1941... 1.The US was keeping out of the war. Until Pearl Harbour, most Americans were ferociously opposed to America involvement in the European war. The US still maintained relations with Germany, and with Japan. (People like John.F.Kennedy, Geroge Bush senior, Gerald Ford were staunch isolationists then ) The events of December 7, 1941, changed all that. (Fun trivia...a German soldier imprisoned in Canada...a UK ally then...escaped to the US and was repatriated to Germany in 1940! If he had tried that stunt two years later...). FDR though did send some aid to the UK. 2.The UK was fighting alone, and did not have the numbers to take on the Axis in Europe at that time. (They did send aid to the USSR too via the Arctic convoys...). 3.It wasn't until 1943 that the allies had victory in sight..thus by 1944 they could discuss the future of Europe (tho, some chat had happened at the Teheran and Casablanca conferences of 1943) |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by DoggoneDogg: 4:37pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
[s] Emmerlee:[/s] This hardened criminal is clutching at straws. Anything just to look relevant. I don tell you to go Romance section go debate Bobrisky & co. Your brain is not up for this discourse. |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by DoggoneDogg: 4:39pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
Modrov: No need for long talk bro. The summary of this epistle is that the US didn't come into continental Europe until 1944, right?? Yes or No? |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by Nobody: 4:40pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
seunny4lif: Japan needed resources then..but until 1941, they were getting enough from the US, especially in oil. it wasn't until the US cut them off by Spetember 1941...that Japan decided to invade and conquer South east Asia and the Pacific isles...to get their hands on resources...and before they could do that, they had to attack the US at Pearl Harbour (and in the Aleutian islands)to disable the US's naval capability in the region. The rest is history 1 Like |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by DoggoneDogg: 4:40pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
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Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by Emmerlee(m): 4:45pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg: Excuse me what business do you and I have for you to call me a hardened criminal? Is this how you go about exposing your clear lack of manners online? Have we met before? Do you have home training? Do you have parents? Are you normal? Is the hardship in the country turning you into a full blown mad man? I purposely avoided quoting you from the beginning because I know your brain matter is done for and can not be recovered. Your type thrive on lies, propaganda, hate and compound stupidity and I can't be caught arguing with you. Please stay away from me completely. I did not message you in the first place so please take your insanity elsewhere. I am busy, thanks. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by Nobody: 4:46pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg: No, they got into continental Europe via Italy in 1943...by invading Sicilly....(some pedants may argue that the US was in Europe by 1942 when they invaded Algeria...which was considered a part of mainland France , not even a colony..long story...but that's being too pedantic) That ended up tying down a lot of German troops in Italy...largely because the Italian army surrendered when the Allies got onto the italian mainland (after the Facist Council and the King of Italy deposed Mussolini ,who then managed to escape and form a rump government in the North that allied itself with Germany and fought on...but at very reduced strength) 1944 was when the US army got into France via D day. (Keep in mind that US forces were tied down in Japanese territories in the Pacific as well...the UK was also fighting there too, and in SE Asia ...that's where many Nigerian troops fighting for the UK distinguished themselves.) 1 Like |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by Nobody: 4:47pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
Logging off ...will come back later. 1 Like |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by meccuno: 4:56pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
[s] ryloy:[/s]America won World war 1 ? and America won the cold war? |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by DoggoneDogg: 4:59pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
[s] Emmerlee:[/s] Unlike you & the US, I'm not a coward. I just helped do what you didn't have the balls to do & your true thuggish nature came forth. Touts are always busy. |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by DoggoneDogg: 4:59pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
Everybody just dey cancel post for this thread!! |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by blackmaine: 5:16pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg:Ogah how far Russia economy and American Economy.. abeg go sit down , who war help, America na one country dey there? So ask your stupid ffk to chose between Russia and USA , which country he would love to visit and revisit again...Abeg make I hear word ...Nigeria wey still suffer under una hand you no talk about how dollar dey win war against our naira you dey hear dey talk shits |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by sammy329(m): 5:26pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg:The Korean war was never initiated by the US, it was due to invasion of South Korea. Go and read about the war very well The US intervened to stop the spread of communism in the Korean peninsula. Apart from that you are greatly underestimating South Korea military capabilities now 1 Like |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by sammy329(m): 5:28pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
meccuno:How did America lose the cold war?? Mr. Professor |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by DoggoneDogg: 5:40pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
[s] blackmaine:[/s] French economy was stronger than Germany's when Hitler destroyed them in 2 weeks. Inflation no dey fight war bro. I go take over, use your resources take bankroll my war. Naso war be. Learn. 1 Like |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by DoggoneDogg: 5:46pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
[s][s] sammy329:[/s] [/s] South Korea is shit The US military base there is their last hope. Remove it and NK will take them within a month. I hate repeating myself |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by h0pze3: 5:48pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
If not bcoz usa drop 2 bomb 4 japan to chop, all countries in d world would av been speaking japanese and german including u. The main reason usa was in afghanistan is to kill or aprehend osama bin laden which has happen 2011, there over stay till 2022 na side mission. Also to korea war, usa might not won but they gave us south korea, which one of u wan go north korea "none" |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by Daum: 5:49pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
Some people here sef ehn.... You guys don't know how bloody the pacific war was. America was busy fighting Japan all over the pacific. From Indonesia to the Philippines even in smaller islands around Japan. Somebody here said Japan has never defeated Russia. Japan beat the hell out of Russia before world war ll. The US was fighting on two fronts in WWII. The only luck the world has is that, the US is not a dictatorship like Russia or China or Nazi Germany. By now you guys won't be saying this rubbish 1 Like |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by Daum: 5:55pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
b3llo: Yes na The Japs had tested the Russians before and seen that they would not make it across Siberia to fight a long campaign. The japs had bead them before. So it was only the US that was their obstacles in Asia 1 Like |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by Daum: 5:57pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg: The US intervened in korea war to stop communism. Stop saying what you don't know. 1 Like |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by sammy329(m): 6:12pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg:Really?? South Korea is shit, so says an Internet Warrior. South Korea of 1952 is different from the one of 2021 ooo. South Korea is the 7th highest in military ranking and they also have powerful allies. |
Re: America Has Not Won One War - FFK (video) by sammy329(m): 6:13pm On Sep 07, 2021 |
DoggoneDogg:That's big lie, Nazi Germany had a better economy https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu › ...PDF The economics of World War II: an overview* - CiteSeerX I can give you more sources sef
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