CrazyMan:

Next time try to read and understand before hitting the reply button.

Go back to my fourth paragraph where I stated clearly that my experience with them brought me to the conclusion that they're in bondage.

And if you must know, I don't hate them, I don't hate anyone either, just that the core ones disgust me...hence my final paragraph where I pointed out clearly that they should embrace civilization so that Christianity can be better understood to them.

The people you are arrogating yourself as judge and jury over are better of than you are in the knowledge of God.

Iyaebe:
Deeper life doctrines are for the downtrodden

Deeper life does not have a doctrine that is different from many other churches. Be informed

Kobojunkie:
Does he have another job other than the church he runs?

I don't know, I don't know much about his personal affairs but that is not enough reason for me to lay such serious allegations against him regarding church funds. You are driven by denominationalism and that isn't godly. You better search your heart, it's not by quoting Bible verses out of context here and there.

Dreamhighnow:
You refer people who give to God and his servant as blind. I'm the one telling you the truth now

Very blind.... which servant of God?
Jesus Christ warned you all of those who will come to steal, kill and destroy, in His name. He warned you against them telling you that no one will be sent to as shepherd in His Kingdom- Jesus Christ alone is the Shepherd in His Kingdom. - Ezekiel 34 vs.1 - 14 & John 10 vs 1 - 16

Yet here you are speaking of giving what to whom?

aluyapreston:


bra his doctrine condem luxury. pls if you can state that his doctrine that do i will gift you 100k. drag me if i dont

How old are you? Maybe you were not born in the days of breaking television (devil's box) according to deeperlife church.....funny people

soojar:


Speak for yourself sir and not for many of your church members. I know quite a few so called deeper lifers who are pure hypocrites hiding under the garment of being a deeper life member but are more terrible by the devil himself.

There is nothing like deeper lifer when you meet Jesus but those that lived their lives according to the tenets of God.

May I also add that without putting undue yoke that God did not put on people on them.

Mr. judge and jury, please read my submission again this time more slowly, not to reply but to understand. Thanks.

Winters23:


Yes donations are supposed to be voluntary only when it's made in your group, but outside your church it could mean extortion according to what the guy I mentioned said

How can it be extortion when the decision to give or not is on you

Humanoid01:

I don't know, I don't know much about his personal affairs but that is not enough reason for me to lay such serious allegations against him regarding church funds. You are driven by denominationalism and that isn't godly. You better search your heart, it's not by quoting Bible verses out of context here and there.

Denominationalism? I am afraid you are not making sense to me at all since I don't belong to any of your churches to begin with.

Jesus Christ made it clear that no man is to fleece his sheep in his name. Anyman who makes his living out of the earnings of God's sheep is one those God declared Himself against in Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16 and again in John 10 vs 1 - 16

Workch:
Being a Christian is not a guarantee that you are good person. Many Christians are scammer and thieves, yahoo Boys and are bad mannered. We see this every day in our society

Check my above post, I omitted 'can not' in the first line, which I had modified to include.

Now, a Christian is not someone that goes to Church, a Christian is not someone bearing a supposedly Christian name, A Christian is not someone that is born in a Christian home. A Christian is not someone that his parents told "my son, you're a Christian".

The followers of Christ were first called Christians at Antioch. They were called Christians because the were behaving like Christ. They saw Christlike attributes in them, so they were like "these are Christians!"

You can't call yourself a Christian if you're a scammer, thief, fornication, liar or committing any kind of sin. Given the definition of Christian as coined by peeps at Antioch, how can you be a Christian if you're an habitual sinner? The question is, can Christ Jesus be living the kind of life you live if He's still here on earth? If the answer is no, then you're not a Christian.

Christ living on earth was a personality that lived a holy life. Little wonder the Bible says "Be ye holy, for I'm holy" and "Without holiness no man shall see the Lord"

My dear brother being a good man doesn't guarantee anyone anything. You have to first of all accept Christ and believe Him to help you live a godly life.

I'm Bayyajidda, but I can assure you that Christ is the only way.

desiredhome:

How old are you? Maybe you were not born in the days of breaking television (devil's box) according to deeperlife church.....funny people

ROFLMAO

He's reaping the fruits of his labour.

Numerouno94:

I luv wat u do. Pls ride on.

Righteousness2:

There is nothing wrong with Wealth and Riches.
There is Everything Wrong with Wealth and Riches without Having a Genuie relationship with JESUS Christ.
What will it Profit to Have the Whole Earth and lose Your Soul in Hell?

Brother thanks for all the lights you have been pointing us towards with all your comments and posts. God bless u richy. Pls i dont knw how things are with you now, bt my heart said i should talk to you. Am offline and have been for a while, i do need a phone to be reachable incase of job offers,plus to help me with materials that edifies the soul. If you can help out i will be indepted to u till enternity. God bless u. Dnt knw how i can say u can reach me if u decide to. So permit me to ask u to see me details in my profile. Thank you

wellmax:

Linus eze. When and where did he say that.

Check the other deeper life thread floating around in religion sections.

https://www.nairaland.com/6769120/before-go-make-sure-correct#106117066

Kobojunkie:
Denominationalism? I am afraid you are not making sense to me at all since I don't belong to any of your churches to begin with.

Jesus Christ made it clear that no man is to fleece his sheep in his name. Anyman who makes his living out of the earnings of God's sheep is one those God declared Himself against in Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16 and again in John 10 vs 1 - 16

Your JW sect is a denomination on its own. You lot think you know it all and thus any Christian whose understanding doesn't align with yours is seen as an enemy to the faith. You people think you're the only ones getting it right. Keep deceiving yourself with that adulterated bible version you read.

So what proof do you have that the pastor in this context is fleecing his sheep? How much do you know about him? I'm not an advocate of prosperity messages, but the word of God doesn't say a pastor can't be wealthy. If you don't have evidence, don't lay blind claims.

Reference:


Even if he did so what.
Are limousines for devils.
Who created the mind that conceived such machines.?
Who created the materials that made such devices.?
Let Christians stop feeling guilty at the blackmail of satanic agents.
If you are born into poverty you get accustomed to lack. Hunger and unclothedness doesn't move you.
If you are born into the family of the Almighty God who is the owner of of everything that exists, abundance and riches simply does not move you.
You do not lust after or run after the things YOU HAVE, YOU OWN. Your heart is not there.
That is the life of Righteousness.
Greed and lust is symptomatic of pursuit, of fear of lack or fear of losing something.
Christians simply do not pursue what they own.
When Jesus wanted anything he simply called for it, period.

Ok

So I attend deeper life from childhood days. I have attended logic and philosophy classes. Na one Prof (wey be real born again Christian even take us that year) He has many atheists friends but He had personal encounter with Christ so he was sure of what he believed. Now all deeperlife doctrines are embedded in the Bible and i can so bet with my life they are true. Then for someone to say deeperlife are downtrodden (am not rich oo.. but am certain am richer than that person). For pastor to use limo catch cruise. Even if Na my tithe dem use. I Dey so much happy at least the man chop my money of which Na even member just Honour am with it. Even me fit rent limo so what’s the big deal.

Humanoid01:

1. Your JW sect is a denomination on its own. You lot think you know it all and thus any Christian whose understanding doesn't align with yours is seen as an enemy to the faith. You people think you're the only ones getting it right. Keep deceiving yourself with that adulterated bible version you read.

2. So what proof do you have that the pastor in this context is fleecing his sheep? How much do you know about him? I'm not an advocate of prosperity messages, but the word of God doesn't say a pastor can't be wealthy. If you don't have evidence, don't lay blind claims.

1. I already told you that I belong to no sects or churches or cults.

2. Again, Jesus Christ made it clear that no man is to fleece his sheep in his name. Anyman who makes his living out of the earnings of God's sheep is one those God declared Himself against in Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16 and again in John 10 vs 1 - 16

If you can't make sense of what is stated in those passages by Almighty God Himself, then there is no point to this, is there?

Adesamogun:
So I attend deeper life from childhood days. I have attended logic and philosophy classes. Na one Prof (wey be real born again Christian even take us that year) He has many atheists friends but He had personal encounter with Christ so he was sure of what he believed. Now all deeperlife doctrines are embedded in the Bible and i can so bet with my life they are true. Then for someone to say deeperlife are downtrodden (am not rich oo.. but am certain am richer than that person). For pastor to use limo catch cruise. Even if Na my tithe dem use. I Dey so much happy at least the man chop my money of which Na even member just Honour am with it. Even me fit rent limo so what’s the big deal.

But the statement in bold there is a bloody lie! Even Kumuyi himself confessed to this being untrue.

https://www.nairaland.com/6769120/before-go-make-sure-correct#106117066

Kobojunkie:

Oh

Kobojunkie:
1. I already told you that I belong to no sects or churches or cults.

2. Again, Jesus Christ made it clear that no man is to fleece his sheep in his name. Anyman who makes his living out of the earnings of God's sheep is one those God declared Himself against in Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16 and again in John 10 vs 1 - 16

If you can't make sense of what is stated in those passages by Almighty God Himself, then there is no point to this, is there?

The question is, how do you know this pastor is fleecing his sheep? What is the relationship between those bible passages and the original post of this thread?

Allow god judge men of God no go do wetting god go take punish you oooooh
Judgement start from the alter

Humanoid01:

The question is, how do you know this pastor is fleecing his sheep? What is the relationship between those bible passages and the original post of this thread?

Did you read what God explained in Ezekiel 34 at all?

georgeakins:


I once worshipped with them. Religion is really a scam.

The man's 2 sons are attending the best universities in the U.S.A at the expense of the members of the church.
One is even study medicine, a very expensive course in any American university .

What is even more painful is how they have used religion to waste the youth of the young ladies in that church by not allowing them to marry on time.

Lies...what do you people gain by lying.

One is married and staying with his wife in Liberia

The junior one is on scholarship sponsored by a member of the church.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeezz.... You people should tone down abeg

jesusjnr2020:
He's one of those few Nigerians church leaders I have some respect for.

The point is not about having or coming down from limousine, but bragging about having a limousine or such material possessions and making it seem as though a man's life consisted of such things which is Antichrist.

That's where many Nigerian church leaders get it wrong and need to correct.

God bless.

what do you say of apostle Joshua selman,you know him

Righteousness2:

There is nothing wrong with Wealth and Riches.
There is Everything Wrong with Wealth and Riches without Having a Genuie relationship with JESUS Christ.
What will it Profit to Have the Whole Earth and lose Your Soul in Hell?

But the same kumuyi told his cult followers that it is a sin to have a television set in their houses.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3jm3ro8-rE

To all who have blindly commented against the Man of God using limousine, here's the real fact. Take an excursion to the Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport, Abuja, then beg the people there to allow you enter the VIP lounge, you will see that the limo in question belongs to Airpeace which is being used to carry VIPs who disembarked from perhaps, a chartered flight. Then, they use the limo to take them from the tarmac to the terminal where they will then trek out to where their vehicles are parked outside. None of the members of DL in Abuja owns the limo. Kumuyi did not use it outside the Airport too. And for those disturbing their minds on doctrines, DL has no written doctrines except the ones we called 22 cardinal doctrines which were all coined out of the Holy Bible, except you don't have one. Or better put, you are such that it's only the stories of the Bible you were told. Read and internalise the Bible stories and instructions, if you can live by all of them, surely you can't miss heaven.

Nevertheless, men set up traditions (remember Matthew 15:2, 8?). A lecturer take for example, may say, if you make noise in my class, I'll send you out. He said that to maintain orderliness in his class of which the school management may know nothing about. But that doesn't make the lecturer an offender to the university's laws. If such is achieving the purpose for which such traditions were made, no problem. But, where the problem will be is when such traditions have replaced the very BIBLICAL DOCTRINES set up by God Himself, then, it is a big problem.

Read your Bible, not with arrogance or pride or intellectualism, come at it with humility by first reading Job 34:32. If since you've been reading it, it has not pointed you to the Saviour of your soul from sin which can take you to hell, you have not started yet. If you've not repented from your sins and turn a new life in Christ Jesus, you are still playing. Take the step, even now!

pakirisuitesphc:
This is a picture of pastor Kumuyi coming down from luxurious limousine, there is nothing wrong if you have worked for God genuinely like Baba Kumuyi, but some of his members with their doctrine will condemn this as affluence and worldliness. Looking good is not a sin.

To all who have blindly commented against the Man of God using limousine, here's the real fact. Take an excursion to the Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport, Abuja, then beg the people there to allow you enter the VIP lounge, you will see that the limo in question belongs to Airpeace which is being used to carry VIPs who disembarked from perhaps, a chartered flight. Then, they use the limo to take them from the tarmac to the terminal where they will then trek out to where their vehicles are parked outside. None of the members of DL in Abuja owns the limo. Kumuyi did not use it outside the Airport too. And for those disturbing their minds on doctrines, DL has no written doctrines except the ones we called 22 cardinal doctrines which were all coined out of the Holy Bible, except you don't have one. Or better put, you are such that it's only the stories of the Bible you were told. Read and internalise the Bible stories and instructions, if you can live by all of them, surely you can't miss heaven.

Nevertheless, men set up traditions (remember Matthew 15:2, 8?). A lecturer take for example, may say, if you make noise in my class, I'll send you out. He said that to maintain orderliness in his class of which the school management may know nothing about. But that doesn't make the lecturer an offender to the university's laws. If such is achieving the purpose for which such traditions were made, no problem. But, where the problem will be is when such traditions have replaced the very BIBLICAL DOCTRINES set up by God Himself, then, it is a big problem.

Read your Bible, not with arrogance or pride or intellectualism, come at it with humility by first reading Job 34:32. If since you've been reading it, it has not pointed you to the Saviour of your soul from sin which can take you to hell, you have not started yet. If you've not repented from your sins and turn a new life in Christ Jesus, you are still playing. Take the step, even now!

Kobojunkie:
But the statement in bold there is a bloody lie! Even Kumuyi himself confessed to this being untrue.

https://www.nairaland.com/6769120/before-go-make-sure-correct#106117066

Have you laid your hand or read the 22 doctrine on which the church and every Christian church should be founded.
Make I even shock you. We were one of the few deeperlife that had TV then cos my Dad always watches TV new and we watch tales by moonlight and other cartoons TV issue was like an advice not doctrine so that member won’t compromise based on corrupt things been shone those year. Oga I be badt boy ooo. Those years certain times dey for night wey dem Dey show romantic movies that can corrupt pikin for TV stations at night those years. So if dem advice members not to watch it. I reason am. Then superstore was on Thursday. Make I tell you my personal distraction once 7:30 nak for church I we never finish revival hours. Make I no lie my mind no dey día again all these was because we were exposed and surely it affected our Christian life cos kids wey día papa no get dem no know why we Dey vex if service dey tey. Please just get your fact right before condemning. If pastor cruise again for limo and I hear say Na my tithe I go even Dey happy. And for the record. My obligation to God as commanded by Malachi is drop my tithe. What they do with it. Like the Levites are answerable to God and not to the people of Israel. They too are answerable. As a Senior accountant in a Firm. I know organizations need cash flow for their operations (and church is not excepted) even when you spend your own money it’s not every time you like how you spent it, but do you now kill yourself. Do your part. I tell people If Salvation is the basis to get to heaven. Oga 1st get it. If you con reach their and they say no requirement then you are safe but if it is then you are also safe (as a logic student you know what am saying)

Minus doctrine, Deeper life breeds the worse of hypocrites.