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Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Kobojunkie: 7:46pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
djmickymouse:1. If each religion has its own mediator, shouldn't it also follow that they also have their own Heaven and hence their own God meaning there isn't just one God for all religions? This is unless you believe instead that Jesus Christ, the one who said that He alone is the way to the Father, is a liar. 2. Did God promise Heaven to Abraham or to David? 3. Did God say goodness by your own standard(man's) is what he desires of those who will be rewarded by Him after this life is over? |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by WhizdomXX(m): 8:25pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
chieveboy:Too much sandman. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by k4kenny(f): 8:44pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
Sixfiguresmart: And you expect to make heaven with this hideous lie? Smh. Christian's are the most deluded people I've ever seen. Take Jesus as your Lord and saviour Kwa? Who talk that kain thing? Jesus or God (Sebi they're both the same ) Continue to believe in man- made concoctions telling you to call a human being your God and saviour. É go soon cast for una eyes. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Ajibade123(m): 8:53pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
adeoyekay:what if I was born in a place where Jesus or Christianity is not know does that mean I won't be going to heaven? |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by adeoyekay(m): 8:54pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
Ajibade123:That is not an excuse |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Ajibade123(m): 8:56pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
Zee0007:do you mean new Lagos because Jerusalem is in Asia and I don't think the Israeli government will want to adopt Nigerians |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Kobojunkie: 9:22pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
Ajibade123:If you don't believe in Jesus Christ, there is no Heaven or Hell for you. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by k4kenny(f): 9:58pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
adeoyekay: How is it not an excuse? How is it their fault they never heard of Jesus? Will your god toss them into hellfire for not knowing about a doctrine? 1 Like |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Kobojunkie: 10:06pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
k4kenny:As Jesus Christ instead told you, except a man be born-again, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 5 - 8 - either through the Broad Gate that leads to destruction(HellFire) or the Narrow Gate that leads to true life(Heaven) - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 28. The only people God said will be tossed into Hellfire which is a part of the Kingdom of God - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 - are those who claim to believe in Him - are born-again -, but like goats, they really are, refuse to obey Him. So basically those who are not born-again cannot end up in Heaven or in Hellfire. They simply return back to the dust from which they were made as God condemned all those who do not believe since the time of Adam - Genesis 3 vs 19 . |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by efficiencie(m): 11:22pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
Yungmil: Jesus is a just judge and He will judge everyone according to their degree of awareness of the truth and there are three main levels of awareness. The first level of awareness is your conscience. Muslims, Hindus etc who were born into such families and died not hearing the gospel of Christ will be judged by the dictates of their conscience (Romans 2:14-15). So if you know in your conscience what is good to do and you refuse to do it it is a sin unto you (James 4:17). The second level of awareness is the Law and the Prophets. The Jews were given the law and according Joshua 1:8, the law must be observed and obeyed. Paul himself declared that the Law is spiritual (Romans 7:14). So if a person dies and was not aware of the gospel but was aware of the Law and the Prophets that person will be judged by the Law and the Prophets (Romans 2:12). The third and highest level of awareness is the gospel as administered by the Holy Spirit. This is the highest level of awareness of the truth. If the Holy Spirit ever convicts you of the truth of the gospel you will not be judged by your conscience and neither will you be judged by the Law rather you will be judged by your level of obedience to the Spirit of God. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God (Romans 8:14). So if you have been convicted by the Spirit of God and you rebel you cannot enter into the kingdom of God. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Layi4real(m): 11:25pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
efficiencie:everybody will b judge on the day of judgement including Jesus and Muhammad and other prophet. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by paul100(m): 11:30pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
Yusufisraelj:I learnt alot from this. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by efficiencie(m): 11:35pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
Layi4real: I did not answer the question as a muslim and I did not answer the question in response to a muslim...a Christian question was asked and I answered in a Christian manner. So keep your opinion to yourself. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Ken4Christ: 11:40pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
Yungmil: Christian Religion will not take you to heaven. That you are born into a Christian home doesn't make you a part of the family of God written in heaven. You must be born again. Everyone must be born again to make heaven whether born into a Christian home or a Muslim family. Jesus is the only way to God. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus - 1st Timothy 2:5. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God - John 3:3. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me - John 14:6 So, even if you are born into a Christian home and you are not born again, you will not make heaven. Salvation is a free gift. And the steps to take to receive it is simple. 1. Believe with your heart that Jesus died for you. 2. Confess that Jesus is the Lord of your life. According to Romans 10:9-10 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, THOU SHALT BE SAVED. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Do it now and be a part of the family of God written in heaven. The message is for everyone irrespective of your religion. We all need Jesus. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Kobojunkie: 11:56pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
Layi4real:That isn't true at all. According to Jesus Christ, it is only the sheep and goats in His flock ... those who are born-again and have entered into the Kingdom of God... that will be judged on the Judgement day when He returns to Judge. So whoever fed you the story you are peddling, lied to you. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Kobojunkie: 11:57pm On Sep 11, 2022 |
paul100:But the entire write-up is a false doctrine. SO what exactly did you learn from the lie? |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by laughitall(m): 12:11am On Sep 12, 2022 |
Aaronsrod:you are very stupid .. lost soul |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by paul100(m): 12:26am On Sep 12, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:I got what I wanted from romans2:13-15 For those people that have "Never" heard of Jesus Christ but do the right things that the Law Of God commands us that know the law already to do.God will judge them by the good and bad things you do and make it their own law For example,a 6year old boy in a small village in India that has never heard the word "JESUS" knows good and bad already. He knows if he steals his mum money,it is a bad act but he still decide to steal it.God will judge him with this. He knows it is bad to shout at his parents but if he choose to still do it,God will judge him with it. Because you can't tell me the God of heaven i serve will send people that have never had the name"Jesus" to hell when they are doing good things on earth.If you have heard of Jesus and you refuse to seek him,this is another ball game entirely according to the teachings of the bible. Some times,I ask myself.Why did God not make everyone to be born into house that identify with the religion,CHRISTIANITY.At least if it was like that.Question like this,won't be asked but the way of God is different from ours |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Layi4real(m): 12:31am On Sep 12, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:how can a creature like u judge u on the day of judgement. So far u are a creature of God who is the creator of all things u are liable to b judge and u can't escape it. Only God can't b judge and so far Jesus isn't God then he will b judge. U might claim he is God in accordance to ur believe but there lot of verse which claim him not to b God e.g Jesus cried with tears to God to save him from death and he was heard Hebrew 5v7 |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Kobojunkie: 1:46am On Sep 12, 2022 |
Layi4real:1. According to Jesus Christ, He is the King and Judge over the Kingdom where Heaven and Hell belong in - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. So anyone who is a Christian submits to that fact and that decree. 2. Well, as Jesus Christ made clear, He is the King and judge over all those who are His followers. And since He is King over Heaven and over Hell.... all those who wish to enter into His Heaven or His Hell must be born-again just as Jesus Christ said. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Sixfiguresmart(m): 2:02am On Sep 12, 2022 |
k4kenny:Did allah lie when he told you that he is being punished? Imagine this man calling his allah a liar. What I posted there is the noble quran. And you are accusing allah of hideously lying to you?? Tell me, is allah under punishment or not according to surah 56:66 We have been penalized. let it cast right here now. I want to see it. Who is punishing allah? |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Kobojunkie: 2:03am On Sep 12, 2022 |
paul100:1. What you claim you got makes no sense when put against the teachings of Jesus Christ, the one who is in fact King in the Kingdom of God - King over Heaven and King over Hell - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 - who instead told you that only those who are born-again- John 3 vs 5 - 8 - and also obey His teachings and commandments are sons of God - John 8 vs 31 - and those who are His friends - John 15 vs 14. Implying that those who are born-again but refuse to obey His teachings and commandments are His enemies. A 6-year-old who has never heard of Jesus Christ cannot be born-again and so does not even qualify to exist outside of the Kingdom of God, the boundary within which those who will end up in Heaven or in Hell exists within. What more, the boys definition of good and evil cannot meet up with the standard that is Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments which is a higher standard than what are your moral laws. So clearly, your understanding of what is written in Paul’s letter does not seem to align with God's Truth at all. 2. It seems you don't even know anything about the God you claim you serve. According to Jesus Christ, only those who are born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 5 - 8 - either through the Broad Gate which leads to destruction(Hell) or the Narrow gate which leads to True Life(Heaven) - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 28 - after Jesus Christ returns and judges all those who belong in His flock - the sheep and goats - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. This has been God's Truth revealed over 2000 years ago. If you, over 2000 years later, do not even know this of the one you call saviour, then what do you really truly know of Him? 3. According to God, all those who do not believe in Him and all those who never heard of Jesus Christ return back to the dust from which they were made when they die - Genesis 3 vs 19. There is no heaven or Hell for them. God already answered all these questions and more for you and the answers are right there in scripture for you to read and learn for yourself. So the better question should instead be why haven't you found those answers before now? |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Kobojunkie: 3:06am On Sep 12, 2022 |
Yusufisraelj:1. I am afraid your summation is not only wrong but it is also not backed up by any of that written in Paul's letter which was majorly directed at believers who were of Jewish descent.. those who already believe in Jesus Christ. 2. Again, none of the verses you lifted out of context provide reasonable backup for your initial summation this is because this idea of yours that Heaven is not just for those who are born-again, is not according to scripture. 3. I am afraid that is impossible because Jesus Christ, the one who is King in the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell belong made it abundantly clear to His followers that except a man be born-again, he CAN NOT enter into the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell are both domains in - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 & John 3 vs 5 - 8. Jesus Christ, in His teachings, clearly revealed that it is only those who obey HIs teachings and His commandments that are His followers - John 14 vs 20 - 24 & John 15 vs 14 - , and it is those who continue to stand faithful - living in continuous submission and obedience of His teachings and commandments - until the end that will be saved - Matthew 24 vs 13 & Mark 13 vs 13. And according to Him, the righteous, those who obey His teachings are those who Heaven will be for whereas the unrighteous - those who refuse to follow His teachings - will have Hell as their reward. So how can a one who has never been born-again, and who never obeyed all of Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments make it into the Kingdom of God which Jesus Christ designated for only those who believe in HIm and are born-again as a result? Don't you see how by claiming others can do that, you make a liar of Jesus Christ? |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Rafiquie: 6:13am On Sep 12, 2022 |
Christianity is just one single path in a million to the light of consciousness. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by oloriIT(m): 7:30am On Sep 12, 2022 |
Being born into a Christian family is not the criteria for making heaven. Even going to church regularly doesn’t qualify you for heaven. The condition for making heaven as stated by God in the Bible is that ‘ye must be born again’. Your must pray to Jesus, confessing your sins with repentance and ask Him to cleanse your heart with His blood, believe that Jesus will do this and continue to pray until the spirit of God confirms the work has been done. Romans 8:16 says the spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit that we are children of God. Your name will then be written in the book of life and you continue to work according to the dictates of the spirit of God. You can reach out to me if you need more guidance. God cannot change His standard for anyone, we are to humble ourselves and submit to His own standard. Take care. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by adams123: 8:09am On Sep 12, 2022 |
WE MUSLIMS & CHRISTIANS NEED TO DIALOGUE ON A ROUND TABLE TO KNOW THE TRUE WAY OF WORSHIPPING GOD WHICH IS THE TICKET TO PARADISE ON JUDGMENT DAY. BUT WE ARE BUSY HATING ONE ANOTHER WHICH IS BASELESS AND A SIN AGAINST GOD TO INDULGE IN THAT IF YOU READ YOUR SCRIPTURES VERY WELL. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by monex(m): 8:30am On Sep 12, 2022 |
The Church (Catholic Church) teachings on the subject can be summarised below: The only way to heaven is by the grace of God and that grace comes through Christ and His Church irrespective of the person's religion. another answer from catholic.com "Those who were not in full communion with the Catholic Church in this world, if they died in God’s grace, surely go to heaven after the purifications of purgatory. They may experience less help from the living while they are being purified, because they may have belonged to communities that do not pray for the departed; but as to their destiny, they are the same as those who were Catholics in this world. In fact, no one is a “non-Catholic” in the world to come, because everyone recognizes the truth of the Catholic Faith" https://www.catholic.com/qa/do-non-catholic-christians-go-to-heaven |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Reasoning(m): 9:15am On Sep 12, 2022 |
Is God Religion Make them enter Heaven make I see now... |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Nobody: 9:41am On Sep 12, 2022 |
adeoyekay: Even without following his instructions. Funny man |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Kobojunkie: 1:31pm On Sep 12, 2022 |
monex:Jesus Christ's position however is that only those who are born-again can obtain grace(eternal life) which they can then spend in either of Eternal Damnation (Hell) or Eternal Reward(Truth). So I hope you can see how utterly foolish this Catholic stance you posted truly are when put up against the very teachings of Jesus Christ, the King and Law in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by Kobojunkie: 1:34pm On Sep 12, 2022 |
adams123:Do Muslims and Christians make the law on the Behalf of God in what is His own Kingdom ? Look, the God of the Bible made it abundantly clear that if you want to enter into His own Heaven, you must submit to and obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ - He is the only way. If the Muslim idea of heaven is what you prefer, then go ahead and consult the Muslim Allah for instructions on how to gain access to that at the end. |
Re: Is Heaven Made For Christians Only? by faithsurvey: 6:12pm On Sep 12, 2022 |
See an ex-pastor who converted about 650 other PASTORS to Islam.
Read the story in this link:
https://www.nairaland.com/7326962/650-pastors-converted-islam-former |
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