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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 7:19pm On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:

Same baseless insinuations and Guesses.
What u don't know is that I matter alot.
Ur dreams r buried with u .
Perish the thought .
They r as dead as dead.

I matter alot because I'm an asawo
The journey of a nation is not limited to one man or one generation, really one day I will be buried but whether my dreams shall be buried with me is another issue entirely, Martin Luther King’s dreams are still alive and so is Mandela’s, Abraham Lincoln and so on, greatness is what I aspire not biological immortality
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 7:23pm On Oct 09, 2022
OfoIgbo:


Nwokem, you can bleat all you want, Bonny and Opobo will remain Igbo terrtories till thy kingdom come. Some Igbo territories still use OBA as the title of their traditional rulers and they still relate with their fellow wider Igbo communities.

Igbo remains the number one traditional language being spoken in both Bonny and Opobo.

The first attachment clearlys shows that
1. The lineage of the traditional rulers of Bonny, is Igbo
2. The middle class and indigenes of Bonny are of Igbo descent.
3. The slaves were also chiefly Igbo. But of course, we know that Ijaw cannibals, Ibibio and Edo slaves will also be there

So basically the first attachment clearly insinuates that the slave traders in Bonny were Igbos. That will make sense, because Aro middlemen are much more likely to deal with their fellow Igbo Bonny slave merchants that spoke their language.

The second attachment clearly shows the true map of Igboland and drawn by Basden, decades before Nigeria was created. I know Ijaws have great respect for Basden and his opinions regarding the Niger Delta. Please further have respect for the map of Igboland that he drew

These your land-grabbing won't work. People are just keeping quiet. At the appointed time, you will know you are biting more than you can chew.
Lies..
I'm an asawo


Opubo-Ama(Opobo) and Okolo-Ama(Bonny) are one and are ibani people whose lineage is from Opukuo-Ama and Koloku- Ama in bayelsa ijaw state.
King Jaja,the present king has said it in an interview several times.

Igbo is just a language of trade.
A kanuri man speaks Hausa ,Nupe man speaks Hausa etc yet no day will u see hausas come to claim their territory.

Stop claiming people lands

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 7:27pm On Oct 09, 2022
OfoIgbo:


The bolded is 100% unacceptable.

Igbos will not be rewarding any landgrabbing back-stabbing moves. It is more justifiable to reward people who didn't try to expropriate our ancestral territories than those who did that.

For Igbos to give up Bonny, Ijaws will have to provide an admirable piece of territory in exchange. But it is unlikely the royal household of Bonny will ever agree to severing their links with their Igbo blood relatives, neither will they be willing to have their land, considered a complete Ijaw territory.
So the best option is for Ijaws to remain in their territory and let Igbos of Bonny and Opobo be. Of course, Igbos realise that there are non-Igbo people in those areas, so they will have to be well accommodated, so that they don't feel like aliens overnight.
There are no Igbo house, compound,polo or people here in ubani..

We are not igbos but ibani people of Niger delta..
Ijaws
We were far developed before u people couid v a sense of territory.
Go back n read history
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Rayzoom: 7:28pm On Oct 09, 2022
Christistruth00:



Some Ga and Ewe are Still Bilingual and their Rulers wear Ife Crowns

please stop, Ga people are not bilingual, they speak Ga and Twi like every other Ghanian do. One peculiar thing in Ghana is that you cannot claim
to be a real Ghanian without speaking Twi Which is more popular in Ghana than English even foreigners struggle to speak the language to be fully accepted.
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by onumadu: 7:30pm On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:

You can’t force others to see your point of view and accept it, the Igbos who invested outside Igboland have contributed to the growth of AlaIgbo and it should be encouraged, you are only scared of what is, running businesses in other places has never stopped our own land from developing, aside Lagos and Abuja, is there any other part of Nigeria more developed than PH and Onitsha
I can only talk of Onitsha. Most big business there were started by returnees.
PH? No comment there.


You just make emotional narrative Igbos should invest in Igboland, while AlaIgbo gas is pumped to power Lagos, if they want Igbos in Igboland then let Nigeria divide first, we shall evolve self defense instead of running and who told you the issue of Ijaw, Opobo and Bonny doesn’t threaten the security and political interest of the Igbo Nation.

Like I told you we are different, you are a hustler, I’m a politician we are both advancing our career in different ways

So, politics is your career? I don't believe in that. shocked
Hustlers own businesses. cool Politicians steal public funds. undecided
If not for Igbo politicians, Igbo would have gone very far in Nigeria.
Cluelessness is another name for some of you Igbo politicians. If you were doing well, there would never have arisen a group like IPOB.
No wonder why you don't get it. You politicians are our problem.
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Rayzoom: 7:33pm On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:

U know nothing.
Igbo is not widely spoken.
Ibani is the language and ijaw the culture.

Nobody cares about ur inferior thoughts and imaginations.
U r low class.
We bought u igbos as slaves n u can't come claim nothing.
U igbos r second class even in Nigeria.
Hard yruth since u don't want to respect urselves
Your foolishness is next to non! I won't insult ijaw people because of a drunk like you.
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 7:36pm On Oct 09, 2022
OfoIgbo:


You obviously are not aware of what happened earlier on this year in Bonny.
These Ijoids tried to install an AMADABO in a chunk of Bonny territory, an action that was clearly perceived by the real Bonny indigenes, including the royal family of Bonny, as an attempt to whittle down the Amayanabo's power as they see him as an Igbo man.
Of course, the Amayanabo and his people dealt seriously with the situation, and real Bonny indigenes followed it up by releasing a press statement, making it clear that they have Igbo ancestry, while also conceding the fact that some Ijoids also settled around the Finima area of Bonny.
This is pure lies.
Nothing if this ever happened.
Igbo thing has never been discussed in Bonny.
It's not an issue.
Nobody talks about Igbo or Bonny here.
It can never be a debate.

U ppl just lie to decieve people
Like I v always say...u lots r irritating with lies .
Ur forefathers had no sense of territory yet u lots r everywhere trying to land grab with false narratives.


In finnma, we v two major house and the y r brown and toby.
The issue was because of NLNG project and percentage over work in NLNG.

All other installation issues are minor in house battling issues that always arise b4 installation.

Like I said ..we ibani ppl will not hence forth keep quiet , our forefathers took igbos as slaves ... Never will ibani class entertain their slaves..
This matter is settled .

Ibani people are ijaw tribe and not Igbo.
Igbo is a language of trade..

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 7:37pm On Oct 09, 2022
onumadu:

I can only talk of Onitsha. Most big business there were started by returnees.
PH? No comment there.



So, politics is your career? I don't believe in that. shocked
Hustlers own businesses. cool Politicians steal public funds. undecided
If not for Igbo politicians, Igbo would have gone very far in Nigeria.
Cluelessness is another name for some of you Igbo politicians. If you were doing well, there would never have arisen a group like IPOB.
No wonder why you don't get it. You politicians are our problem.
I’m 27, my father was a business man and a politician, my grandfather from my mother’s side was also a business man and politician, my grandfather brought development in Ezikoba sometimes with his own money, my mother’s father was the wealthiest man in Nsukka/Ezikoba in his time, so when I say I’m a politician, I’m not here to steal from anyone.

Besides when you accuse Igbo politician do you mean the current crops of imposed ones or you mean politicians like MI Okpara or even Zik?, well everyone could have that traits of greed however I’m not in the politics for the loots, I want to make a change and most likely the problem of the Igbo Nation and even Nigeria at large are political problems that could only be solved by politician. God would bring the right people maybe in our generation maybe someday.

Apart from politics, I also write take trainings in military intelligence where I hope to venture into private military, contractors and equipment production among other lines of business

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Afamed: 7:38pm On Oct 09, 2022
Na so them dey start. Land grabber . Tomoro dem go tell Opobo and bonny people say na dem develop their communities for them

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 7:39pm On Oct 09, 2022
Afamed:
Na so them dey start. Land grabber . Tomoro dem go tell Opobo and bonny people say na dem develop their communities for them
Does it matter what they are told if we are all together in AlaIgbo
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 7:56pm On Oct 09, 2022
deekseen:
I don't know if anyone noticed the way the OP was mentioning WAR in almost all his replies. Even some keyboard warriors are rolling drums of war. The amazing thing is that the elders of Alaigbo and the main stakeholders have not said anything. I believe they are wise enough to know how to handle conflicts like this.

I think this generation of Igbo youths are always spoiling for war and since no one has their time the war is now going on in their own domain - Alaigbo vs Alaigbo; in the form of ESN vs Autopilots vs IPOB vs MASSOB vs UGM vs Kidnappers vs ogwu ego ritualists vs elites.

Truth is, I love the Igbos, but this generation has not learnt anything from their history.
I love the igbos too but this generation is irritating and uncouth with no sense of good history.
People that their forefathers lacked sense of territory now wants to dictate to us that our forebearers were masters in all fields no jokes

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by onumadu: 8:02pm On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:

I’m 27, my father was a business man and a politician, my grandfather from my mother’s side was also a business man and politician, my grandfather brought development in Ezikoba sometimes with his own money, my mother’s father was the wealthiest man in Nsukka/Ezikoba in his time, so when I say I’m a politician, I’m not here to steal from anyone.

Well, you're too young to take on this topic honestly. No insult intended. I used to think like you 14 years ago! lol
BUT, I like to encourage young people. However you should learn to take advice.
This topic is not necessary. Believe it or not topics here make impacts on the ground.


Besides when you accuse Igbo politician do you mean the current crops of imposed ones or you mean politicians like MI Okpara or even Zik?,

There is a difference between pre-civil war and post-civil war Igbo politicians. The ones before the war were not corrupt and they were fearless.
The ones after the war (apart from Jim Nwobodo, Mbakwe, and a few others like them) are corrupt cowards.


well everyone could have that traits of greed however I’m not in the politics for the loots, I want to make a change and most likely the problem of the Igbo Nation and even Nigeria at large are political problems that could only be solved by politician. God would bring the right people maybe in our generation maybe someday.

The problem of Nigeria (and Igboland) are clueless leadership, cowardice, and corruption.


Apart from politics, I also write take trainings in military intelligence where I hope to venture into private military, contractors and equipment production among other lines of business

Well, good luck with your chosen future line of business. Succeed first in business, then think of politics, like Peter Obi.
Anybody who hasn't grown any business or led any large human resource should not be thinking about guiding Igbo at this time.

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 8:10pm On Oct 09, 2022
onumadu:


Well, you're too young to take on this topic honestly. No insult intended. I used to think like you 14 years ago! lol
BUT, I like to encourage young people. However you should learn to take advice.
This topic is not necessary. Believe it or not topics here make impacts on the ground.



There is a difference between pre-civil war and post-civil war Igbo politicians. The ones before the war were not corrupt and they were fearless.
The ones after the war (apart from Jim Nwobodo, Mbakwe, and a few others like them) are corrupt cowards.



The problem of Nigeria (and Igboland) are clueless leadership, cowardice, and corruption.



Well, good luck with your chosen future line of business. Succeed first in business, then think of politics, like Peter Obi.
Anybody who hasn't grown any business or led any large human resource should not be thinking about guiding Igbo at this time.
Thanks for your advice, however what I need is direction not telling me that I'm too young, Kaduna Nzeogwu (My biggest inspiration was only 29) when he shook the country. I have learnt from his mistakes and most likely would not do anything drastic and that's why you are seeing me here seeking peace and keeping an open mind, it is not very unlikely nor impossible to drop a weapon of mass destruction or Engineer a bio weapon somehow but to what end.

I'm very much on ground, my books are in distribution in Enugu, they are really small in size but people buy and read them, my distributors are happy with me, my printers are happy, I create a kind of employment which I hope to go large scale and diversify.

I'm just perfect age for the job, elders don't fight no war, Alexander the great was only 32 when he died however he conquered the then known world. I'm not worried about anything at 27 I feel that I have lived so long and I died a long time ago, maybe only waiting for the burial, nothing at all matters more to me than making a name for generations to come,
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 8:15pm On Oct 09, 2022
NICEONEENA:
they are just here decieving THEMSELVES, when that time reach they will go with their people alone let's see how Bonny and Opubo-Ama will join them. Their brothers where disgrace of recent going to Opubo to ask the cultural affinity with Igbos.. I laugh tire
There uneducated media crew on hearing about this Igbo false claims on Bonny and Opobo will rush to cross to Bonny but get discourage at the fear of the high sea but due to the new road to Opobo now ,they will run to do random video interview with hopes they will get the answer that says Opobo is Igbo but they always get disappointed when the good people of Opobo and Bonny will tell them point black that Igbo that some people speak here just like Hausa the kanuri people,Jos people or Nupe people speak doesn't make them igbos just as English that we speak does not make us British..
It's just a language of trade and there was an economic reason for that then.

They people always tell them that they r not igbos but ibani ijaw people
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 8:24pm On Oct 09, 2022
onumadu:


Well, you're too young to take on this topic honestly. No insult intended. I used to think like you 14 years ago! lol
BUT, I like to encourage young people. However you should learn to take advice.
This topic is not necessary. Believe it or not topics here make impacts on the ground.



There is a difference between pre-civil war and post-civil war Igbo politicians. The ones before the war were not corrupt and they were fearless.
The ones after the war (apart from Jim Nwobodo, Mbakwe, and a few others like them) are corrupt cowards.



The problem of Nigeria (and Igboland) are clueless leadership, cowardice, and corruption.



Well, good luck with your chosen future line of business. Succeed first in business, then think of politics, like Peter Obi.
Anybody who hasn't grown any business or led any large human resource should not be thinking about guiding Igbo at this time.
U v said it all.
The young man is too young to understand what topic he has raised .

You just gave him a sound advice...
Threads like this cause harm than good..

He needs to leave his abode first ,maybe he will understand better.
Now Igbo leaders are corrupt,cowards,too evilly occultic and naive..
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by 43Ronin: 8:28pm On Oct 09, 2022
Hyperchi:
I love the peace move, as we have more to gain than lose, as an Igbo man from country5 . it easy for me to visit any ijaw town and see ppl I can relate with. When we achieved our Goals, it will be left for the ppl of those area to take their stand

Opobo is ijaw bonny is not. Bonny was only ceded to ND after the war. Even in Opobo they speak both ijaw and igbo very well they do not have an issue with it. Bonny, obigbo, the place in benue and other parts of former igboland were cut out of igboland to spite and underdeveloped igbos(classic british divide and rule). Its just like ikwerre that answer igbo names and their kings are known as Igwe and Eze forming not igbo because of ijaw resources in Rivers state.

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 8:31pm On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:

We are not fighting about this, at least not today, nothing we both say here would change the fact that this development has emerged, so calm down, I have heard your point let others have their views, your views are really appreciated by me so chill, what will be will be and what will not be will not be, take it easy on yourself okay, this is the round table not the battle field
Says someone who has not set foot in portharcourt or beyond.
Leave Enugu and go live in other places first
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Christistruth00: 8:33pm On Oct 09, 2022
Rayzoom:
please stop, Ga people are not bilingual, they speak Ga and Twi like every other Ghanian do. One peculiar thing in Ghana is that you cannot claim
to be a real Ghanian without speaking Twi Which is more popular in Ghana than English even foreigners struggle to speak the language to be fully accepted.

The Tabon Ga Speak Yoruba


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4krjcZ48wA&t=80s
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 8:33pm On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:

U v said it all.
The young man is too young to understand what topic he has raised .

You just gave him a sound advice...
Threads like this cause harm than good..

He needs to leave his abode first ,maybe he will understand better.
Now Igbo leaders are corrupt,cowards,too evilly occultic and naive..
The issue that you have failed to realise is that pretending that the situation is not important is the real danger, if you feel that Opobo and Bonny have no business with Igbos whatsoever, suggest the means to deal with those people who feel connected with the Igbos there, no one is here to be adviced, no one here is bellow 18 maybe, I asked is there a peaceful way out, or do you intend to deport the Jaja family?

He said the issue is not important, if it is not important why are you wasting your time on it, I live in AlaIgbo I know the feelings here, I see the groupings in Ijaw land, I see the rhetoric, apart from politics like I have hinted I take classes in Military intelligence and strategy, I wanted to join the airforce as I'm a boy of the Akanuibiam airport Enugu.

It isn't funny reality on ground here is different people take these things serious and if you want us to fold our arms and pretend that it don't matter it would only go terrible, at least you have seen young Igbos who prefer peace, there are hot heads in AlaIgbo who only need the funding to take to sea and land in Opobo anf Bonny and damn the Consequences but no it is funny lol, anyway I know that war is settled in the table
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 8:35pm On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:

Says someone who has not set foot in portharcourt or beyond.
Leave Enugu and go live in other places first
Oga we just recieved some bunkery diesel not long ago from PH, you don't know lol, fashi that careless capping you know Igbo and waka waka lol
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by 43Ronin: 8:35pm On Oct 09, 2022
onumadu:

I can only talk of Onitsha. Most big business there were started by returnees.
PH? No comment there.



So, politics is your career? I don't believe in that. shocked
Hustlers own businesses. cool Politicians steal public funds. undecided
If not for Igbo politicians, Igbo would have gone very far in Nigeria.
Cluelessness is another name for some of you Igbo politicians. If you were doing well, there would never have arisen a group like IPOB.
No wonder why you don't get it. You politicians are our problem.

You can say that again. That is why I pray UGM kill all the igbo politicians in alaigbo. They are nothing but greedy thieves and only care about their selfish interest. Look at the HOR representing my constituency nothing to show for. Not even ordinary scholarships at least for higher institution peeps in his constituency or even FG jobs. They would rather sell it to other tribesmen. I pray they are all exterminated from igboland.

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 8:40pm On Oct 09, 2022
ImperialYoruba:


Lets leave them with their Ijaw brothers to finish their land sharing deals. grin grin
That's how them ipob behave..
Causing problems for their elders ..
But Truely ,I love igbos but sometimes eh, they can be handful by these behaviours of trying to make claims without minding what the people they r talking about stand for...
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 8:46pm On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:

That's how them ipob behave..
Causing problems for their elders ..
But Truely ,I love igbos but sometimes eh, they can be handful by these behaviours of trying to make claims without minding what the people they r talking about stand for...
Chill first, the war with Ijaws shall be friendly, hopefully we settle peacefully and we would suply you weapons to exterminate those other people if they find your trouble in Ondo, Lagos and other places, I believe that the situation in Opobo and Bonny are real but under control, we detonate like two Ogbunigwe and you people shoot your gunboats weapons next day our elders will meet and settle the issues or welcome to chaos, I believe the issue will ne settled and then we arm you to the teeth and with even more support to annihilate your other enemies, you know you Ijaws have more direct enemies than us lol
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EngrKemp: 8:46pm On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:

The issue that you have failed to realise is that pretending that the situation is not important is the real danger, if you feel that Opobo and Bonny have no business with Igbos whatsoever, suggest the means to deal with those people who feel connected with the Igbos there, no one is here to be adviced, no one here is bellow 18 maybe, I asked is there a peaceful way out, or do you intend to deport the Jaja family?

He said the issue is not important, if it is not important why are you wasting your time on it, I live in AlaIgbo I know the feelings here, I see the groupings in Ijaw land, I see the rhetoric, apart from politics like I have hinted I take classes in Military intelligence and strategy, I wanted to join the airforce as I'm a boy of the Akanuibiam airport Enugu.

It isn't funny reality on ground here is different people take these things serious and if you want us to fold our arms and pretend that it don't matter it would only go terrible, at least you have seen young Igbos who prefer peace, there are hot heads in AlaIgbo who only need the funding to take to sea and land in Opobo anf Bonny and damn the Consequences but no it is funny lol, anyway I know that war is settled in the table
What ever course u wanna take in military is ur business.
I'm not stopping u.
U can filow up ur esn or ugm or whatever arm unit u wish..

If ur aim is to invade other people territory, u will die even before getting started.
The people u r talking about are no novice to whatever kind of warfare u wanna do...
Just quit land grabbing and be peaceful with your self
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by AlexBells(m): 8:50pm On Oct 09, 2022
EngrKemp:

What ever course u wanna take in military is ur business.
I'm not stopping u.
U can filow up ur esn or ugm or whatever arm unit u wish..

If ur aim is to invade other people territory, u will die even before getting started.
The people u r talking about are no novice to whatever kind of warfare u wanna do...
Just quit land grabbing and be peaceful with your self
Ha, you need to work on your threat na, death is the hallmark of active service lol, I can't join ESN or unkown gunmen their warfare is small, I want the kind of war that buildings would be leveled, seas turned pink and the sound and smell of blood thrusting in iron rent the air, I love peace or absolute calamity lol, I won't even have fought in Biafra, Ojukwu needed to show proof of weapons if I was there I could have joined Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna group lol
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by EndsarsReloaded: 9:23pm On Oct 09, 2022
ImperialYoruba:


We have told you repeatedly to stop making the mistake in Lagos that govt has power over land. They dont.

We have even gone as far back as 1861, 1936 and 1942 to replay for you the battle with British Crown and the Colonists. The Supreme Court in England ruled in favour of the land barons. They own the land till today. Lagos State govt is an arbiter, not the owner.

Lagos State govt records and keep ledgers but does not transact, so their role is clerical. The clerk cannot reposess a land fron its ancestral owner and give to a homeless nomad. Will never happen. Just as it would never come to pass that an Ibo will be elected to govern a Yorubaland. Azikiwe tried and failed. At the end he named his son Bamidele, and he still was rejected by Yoruba.

Some of you are so insecure and it's irritating. Someone created a thread for discussion between Igbos and Ijaws but Yorubas invaded it and kept making annoying posts in their futile attempts to antagonize Igbos.

Now to your post, you claim that lands bought by Igbos would be reversed after 99 years. This assertion reeks of crass ignorance. By law, Emeka from Enugu State is as much a stranger as Tunde from Osun State. So, should such a law take effect, only Lagos indigenes would benefit from it. All Igbos as well as Yorubas from outside Lagos would be affected in equal measure. Laws are never based on tribal affiliations except maybe you succeed in having Oduduwa republic.

As for the issues bordering on Opobo and Bonny. It is the international court of Justice that would conclude this matter. Nigeria lost Bakasi to Cameron following Green Tree judgement. Fortunately for us, we have documents that show those places belong to us based on recorded history.

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Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by paramakina202: 9:57pm On Oct 09, 2022
christistruth01:



Jaja was not the Only one that founded Opobo the Anna Pepple Ijaw trading house were also there infact Anna Pepple Ijaw house are the real owners of Opobo because Opobo was their Trading Post

Read about Anna Pepple.

Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Christistruth00: 10:52pm On Oct 09, 2022
paramakina202:


Read about Anna Pepple.


Anna Pepple was an Ijaw trading house

Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by paramakina202: 10:58pm On Oct 09, 2022
Christistruth00:



Anna Pepple was an Ijaw trading house

He was a person(Igbo) before becoming a King and a trading house.
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Christistruth00: 11:25pm On Oct 09, 2022
paramakina202:


He was a person(Igbo) before becoming a King and a trading house.


Anna Pepple was Ijaw
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Alabo7978(m): 11:44pm On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:
The truth is that any leader who wants peace would not just take every body serious but also show it, it is also said that if you want peace you must prepare for war.

As you all know, the Igbo nation and several other Nigerian nationalities are at the verge of unification and for this to happen, nearly every nation of Nigeria needs a Bismarck.

In AlaIgbo today there are about four people who could be classified as leaders in Igboland with similar influence like Ojukwu who could clearly make statements and AlaIgbo would stand still. These men without Bias are 1. Peter Obi 2. Nnamdi Kanu, 3. Reverend Father Ejike Mbaka, 4. And to an extent Simon Ekpa.

As you all know, none of these people can lead the Igbo Nation technically, Peter Obi can not lead the Igbo Nation because he has gone beyond that stage, Nnamdi Kanu has as well gone beyond that stage as his empire has grown beyond Igbo Nation and he is very controversial character that inspires fear in nearly every other Nigerian aside Igbos and our allies, for Mbaka he is currently a property of the catholic church, for Simon Ekpa not only is he leading only a faction of his group but he is more of a Military tactician than a broadened leader, his failure to seize the IPOB completely is another issue.

It is clear at this point that AlaIgbo MUST look away from these four people and seek new direction. As we seek new direction, one of the ways to establish a Nation is to establish a common enemy, today, the Ijaw nation has found that enemy psychology working both sides, I think after Biafra, the next thing that currently Unites Igbos more now is the issue of Opobo and Bonny and I seek to ask, how would this issue be settled because I know the thing that unites the Ijaws is the Igbo enemy psychology.

I know of a sure that the Igbos would share closer genetic composition with the Ijaws than any other nationalities in Nigeria, this is because with the Ijaw culture of assimilation, majority of Igbos who came across Ijaws were enculturated and they became Ijaws, which means I can go through same ritual today and become Ijaw but DNA closeness does not mean peace afterall the English are Germanic but in the world wars, they were sworn enemies.

From the trends on social media and on the ground, Ijaws also knows that the Igbos are coming, there are so many Igbo media crews who have visited Opobo and Bonny recently and the Ijaws knows even from social media banter that this is no joke. One thing that you should never do is challenge or dare an Igbo man, this is common sense the Igbos shall come for Bonny and Opobo if we don't give peace a chance.

The question now is how can we fix these realities with peaceful cost, nairaland is one of the most vibrant mediums to reach the Ijaws currently, I see a lot of young Ijaws making effort and we should all be better off thinking about prosperity than thinking war as young leaders. It could have been common sense to say let's leave these issues until maybe someday Nigeria regrettably divides but these situations needs urgent attention today becuase Nigeria can work as a Unitary confederation and the best way for it to work is when Nations pick up themselves.

I have proposed earlier without consulting my people that Opobo can come with the Igbos while Bonny can go with Ijaws, it did not go down well with both my people and the Ijaws however I believe in justice and any truthful individual knows that both these towns have connections with both Ijaws and Igbos and the more we fight for them, the more it impacts them as a people and there is no just call to completely disconnect them from any side which we could arrive at with chaos.

That proposal can still work and clearly the best and safest option then another option is this, let the two towns be independent or at most protectorate of the two nations, Ijaws can protect Bonny while Igbos protect Opobo becuase the two Islands communities would have hard time protecting themselves by themselves as independent countries in the event that Nigeria divides especially from natural reality given rising sea levels.

The fact is that more than any other nationalities in Nigeria, in the future the Ijaws would greately need Igbos. I think the Igbo nation can really understand the challenges the Ijaws would face especially given climate change, the fact that if Nigeria continues you only have one state capital, one full state which means you would have a tough time with Unification and facing regional challenges, again the closest big market to the Ijaws are those in Igboland, the Igbos also has more gas, coal and and inland water resources than any other nationalities in Africa and on top of that goes as the single richest Nationality in Nigeria by per capita income which means your crucial energy and electricity needs could depend on us in the long run, without these you have no industrial future and should Nigeria divide the country of the Igbos would have by far the biggest economy and strongest Military than any other nation emerging from Nigeria, we wouldn't want war no matter how small but prosperity.

The Igbo Nation want the Ijaws to succeed and I want to clear one notion that the Ijaws held for years, that the Igbos stopped their dreams of Niger Delta Republic the question is, who was Adakar Borro to ask for Niger Delta Republic? Was he elected to any office, was he any form of traditional ruler, on what ground did he ask for Niger Delta Republic ?

I don't want the current Ijaw moves to be about rebellion, if you want Ijaw Republic and that such Republic wants to secede from Nigeria, first convince your governor in Bayelsa and your senators, house of assembly and rep members to buy into the idea anything beyond that would pass you as a rebel no matter how justified your intentions are.

I know it is easy for us to insult each other however the situation is real and I seek to ask Ijaw young leaders on nairaland, how do you think we can go about fixing these situations especially without disconnecting the Opobo and Bonny people from both their Igbo and Ijaw connections and heritage, I strongly believe any peaceful means would be appreciated by them as peace would ensure future bonds on both sides.

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"One thing we know is to never dare and Igbo man......igbos will come for Bonny and Opobo"....

Nòmú-Egberi.

This is a crazy talk.
Mr Man you were making a little sense in this write up i was just skimming through till I caught sight of that stuff you wrote up.

Okoro, it has never been written anywhere or anytime when a tenant chase away the landlord and take over his house.
That's how I accomodated one Igbo dude due to a quarel with his roommate (a fellow Igbo) back then in uni
Dude was eating my food, using my stove, being comfortable.
He begged that he change my coloured bulb to florescent... he usually does this when I travel or not around,, till he stopped taking permission and was challenging me why I changed the bulb back to coloured... My own room I paid for and accommodated him, man was feeling like the owner of the room already.
Same thing in Lagos.
Una never serious,, even that useless stupid Igbo 3million BC group... Make Dem continue to dey mumu themselves there.
If you people don't respect yourselves and respect other people's boundaries, if someone invites you, and you decide to put your leg on his center table anything you see, make you take am.
There are no igbos in Bonny and Opobo. There was enculturation and intermarriage, same with Anambara with the Igala etc etc.
Make every body Respect themselves.
I currently like what is going on in Opobo, you can't hold a position of influence if you can't speak ibani,, to my greatest suprise, ibani is encouraged even on the streets,, women, children, men are more fluent...when I went there middle of last month I thought I was in kalabari. So Mr Man, you people should go to Haiti first and unite with them, christene them umu-igbo, infact rename Haiti Ala-igbo before you come here come do wetin you dey talk.
Soon Ndoki will soon begin speaking Ibani because they are reaching out to INC... it could take 10 years, 20 years, 30 years but it must happen.
Re: Ijaws And Igbos Only, Let's Explore Peaceful Setlements In Opobo And Bonny by Alabo7978(m): 11:50pm On Oct 09, 2022
AlexBells:
The truth is that any leader who wants peace would not just take every body serious but also show it, it is also said that if you want peace you must prepare for war.

As you all know, the Igbo nation and several other Nigerian nationalities are at the verge of unification and for this to happen, nearly every nation of Nigeria needs a Bismarck.

In AlaIgbo today there are about four people who could be classified as leaders in Igboland with similar influence like Ojukwu who could clearly make statements and AlaIgbo would stand still. These men without Bias are 1. Peter Obi 2. Nnamdi Kanu, 3. Reverend Father Ejike Mbaka, 4. And to an extent Simon Ekpa.

As you all know, none of these people can lead the Igbo Nation technically, Peter Obi can not lead the Igbo Nation because he has gone beyond that stage, Nnamdi Kanu has as well gone beyond that stage as his empire has grown beyond Igbo Nation and he is very controversial character that inspires fear in nearly every other Nigerian aside Igbos and our allies, for Mbaka he is currently a property of the catholic church, for Simon Ekpa not only is he leading only a faction of his group but he is more of a Military tactician than a broadened leader, his failure to seize the IPOB completely is another issue.

It is clear at this point that AlaIgbo MUST look away from these four people and seek new direction. As we seek new direction, one of the ways to establish a Nation is to establish a common enemy, today, the Ijaw nation has found that enemy psychology working both sides, I think after Biafra, the next thing that currently Unites Igbos more now is the issue of Opobo and Bonny and I seek to ask, how would this issue be settled because I know the thing that unites the Ijaws is the Igbo enemy psychology.

I know of a sure that the Igbos would share closer genetic composition with the Ijaws than any other nationalities in Nigeria, this is because with the Ijaw culture of assimilation, majority of Igbos who came across Ijaws were enculturated and they became Ijaws, which means I can go through same ritual today and become Ijaw but DNA closeness does not mean peace afterall the English are Germanic but in the world wars, they were sworn enemies.

From the trends on social media and on the ground, Ijaws also knows that the Igbos are coming, there are so many Igbo media crews who have visited Opobo and Bonny recently and the Ijaws knows even from social media banter that this is no joke. One thing that you should never do is challenge or dare an Igbo man, this is common sense the Igbos shall come for Bonny and Opobo if we don't give peace a chance.

The question now is how can we fix these realities with peaceful cost, nairaland is one of the most vibrant mediums to reach the Ijaws currently, I see a lot of young Ijaws making effort and we should all be better off thinking about prosperity than thinking war as young leaders. It could have been common sense to say let's leave these issues until maybe someday Nigeria regrettably divides but these situations needs urgent attention today becuase Nigeria can work as a Unitary confederation and the best way for it to work is when Nations pick up themselves.

I have proposed earlier without consulting my people that Opobo can come with the Igbos while Bonny can go with Ijaws, it did not go down well with both my people and the Ijaws however I believe in justice and any truthful individual knows that both these towns have connections with both Ijaws and Igbos and the more we fight for them, the more it impacts them as a people and there is no just call to completely disconnect them from any side which we could arrive at with chaos.

That proposal can still work and clearly the best and safest option then another option is this, let the two towns be independent or at most protectorate of the two nations, Ijaws can protect Bonny while Igbos protect Opobo becuase the two Islands communities would have hard time protecting themselves by themselves as independent countries in the event that Nigeria divides especially from natural reality given rising sea levels.

The fact is that more than any other nationalities in Nigeria, in the future the Ijaws would greately need Igbos. I think the Igbo nation can really understand the challenges the Ijaws would face especially given climate change, the fact that if Nigeria continues you only have one state capital, one full state which means you would have a tough time with Unification and facing regional challenges, again the closest big market to the Ijaws are those in Igboland, the Igbos also has more gas, coal and and inland water resources than any other nationalities in Africa and on top of that goes as the single richest Nationality in Nigeria by per capita income which means your crucial energy and electricity needs could depend on us in the long run, without these you have no industrial future and should Nigeria divide the country of the Igbos would have by far the biggest economy and strongest Military than any other nation emerging from Nigeria, we wouldn't want war no matter how small but prosperity.

The Igbo Nation want the Ijaws to succeed and I want to clear one notion that the Ijaws held for years, that the Igbos stopped their dreams of Niger Delta Republic the question is, who was Adakar Borro to ask for Niger Delta Republic? Was he elected to any office, was he any form of traditional ruler, on what ground did he ask for Niger Delta Republic ?

I don't want the current Ijaw moves to be about rebellion, if you want Ijaw Republic and that such Republic wants to secede from Nigeria, first convince your governor in Bayelsa and your senators, house of assembly and rep members to buy into the idea anything beyond that would pass you as a rebel no matter how justified your intentions are.

I know it is easy for us to insult each other however the situation is real and I seek to ask Ijaw young leaders on nairaland, how do you think we can go about fixing these situations especially without disconnecting the Opobo and Bonny people from both their Igbo and Ijaw connections and heritage, I strongly believe any peaceful means would be appreciated by them as peace would ensure future bonds on both sides.

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You legit said Ijaw will depend on Igbo in terms of electricity and what again??
Smh...
The electricity that will be generated by solar or even the ocean will be sold to you all.
Climate change will be curbed by building dams along the coast.
Mismanagement and stealing is what is keeping us behind.

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