LordReed:


So Christians should leave the streets too?

We can't. we love you all that's why we are on the street many Christian you see on the street preaching have something else they can do but they leave their businesses and jobs just to make sure you are saved that you escaped hell they don't want you to suffer eternal pain . In the bible Jesus tells believers if you love your neighbor you'll tell them about me . Christian are on the streets for a good reason, they want your salvation. Its like a neighbor warning the other of a coming danger . Is that wrong.

What are the homosexuals on the street for? I think they are seeking validation for their relationships.

I don't think I will be happy in heaven knowing I could have saved my friend from hell.

jaephoenix:

Lol. You dodged all those posts and pushed the Pontius Pilate post.
Right, lemme oblige you
Yeah, he was a real person? Any ish?

I didn't doge anything I wanted to quote from secular historians anyway did you know that ancient Roman historians wrote about Jesus.

Image123:


That's why i said you are more ignorant than i imagined. i was referring to the LGBTQ agenda all the time, not to your specific irrelevant gay friends.

Lol.
You said LGBTQ threatened governments. I asked you to show me where. You pulled up a post where the US was threatening Uganda. I asked you how LGBTQ became a whole US Government, you now came back that you were referring to the LGBTQ agenda.
I believe you are literate(though these days I doubt you are). Again I ask, is the LGBTQ the same as US Government?

elated177:
You acted like you didn't see what I said earlier, only for you to ask me to strike you with lightning.

Look at what I said:









Are you also going to disappoint like you did in the past?

Lol. Disappoint you when? Are you high on air?
You said you are supernaturally powerful, and I simply ask, no, beg you to strike me dead, and end all these back and forth, but you're here running your psychotic mouth since yesterday. Im patiently waiting for my lightning, bro

Lawag3:



She's in a place where she can't be silenced. This is where people who advocate for the gay rights should be. They should leave the streets.

I don't understand. Where should gay rights activists be?

Lawag3:



Death isn't the better place . I would want to go to that better place I have been preparing for it. many Christian do all it takes to go there we leave our former life of sin, comfort and we kill lust we try to live a life of holiness all in preparation for a spot in that place . True we all want our babies in our arms like who wouldn't, but if the baby dies we console ourselves knowing that the baby is in a better place. Know this there is life after death.

I dont like drivel.
I asked you why your yahweh is busy killing innocent babies. You told me he wants them in a better place. I asked if you want your kids or yourself in this better place. And you started telling me about this.
Do you think those babies yahweh murdered went to this better place? Going by your notion that we are born sinful, dont you think those babies are headed for hell?

Lawag3:


We can't. we love you all that's why we are on the street many Christian you see on the street preaching have something else they can do but they leave their businesses and jobs just to make sure you are saved that you escaped hell they don't want you to suffer eternal pain . In the bible Jesus tells believers if you love your neighbor you'll tell them about me . Christian are on the streets for a good reason, they want your salvation. Its like a neighbor warning the other of a coming danger . Is that wrong.

What are the homosexuals on the street for? I think they are seeking validation for their relationships.

I don't think I will be happy in heaven knowing I could have saved my friend from hell.

They are on the streets the same way any professional body or individuals, takes to the streets: Rights to peaceful protests. Remember they have been facing many form of assaults from you chrissies.

Lawag3:


I didn't doge anything I wanted to quote from secular historians anyway did you know that ancient Roman historians wrote about Jesus.

Who?

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

When are the homosexuality apologists going to get it?

Two people of the same sex, who are in same-sex relationship, may not be hurting anyone directly, they are, however, hurting the environment, and by that, hurting the earth. Any act that hurts the earth also hurts both the perpetrator of such act and the other inhabitants of the earth. Whatever hurts the earth, hurts its inhabitants.

Isaiah 24: 4 The earth dries up and withers,
    the world languishes and withers,
    the heavens languish with the earth.
5 The earth is defiled by its people;
    they have disobeyed the laws,
violated the statutes
    and broken the everlasting covenant.

So, it does not matter whether you believe the existence of the supernatural or not, the truth remains. The portion of Scripture given above was stated thousands of years ago. There are particular natural orders of things. The violation of any of them, always comes with consequences. The natural order of sexual relationship is between a man and a woman and scripturally sanctioned only between a husband and his wife.

When the earth suffers, the heavens also suffer. The plants, the animals - both on land and in the waters - all suffer the consequences of the abominable activities of humans.

Isaiah 24: See, YHVH is going to lay waste the earth
    and devastate it;
he will ruin its face
    and scatter its inhabitants—
2 it will be the same
    for priest as for people,
    for the master as for his servant,
    for the mistress as for her servant,
    for seller as for buyer,
    for borrower as for lender,
    for debtor as for creditor.
3 The earth will be completely laid waste
    and totally plundered.
YHVH has spoken this word.


At the appropriate time, the Creator of the heavens, the land, the seas and everything in them will annihilate the earth and its inhabitants.

So, you see, the abomination called homosexuality, is the chief polluter and defiler of the earth. It is one of the abominable acts that will lead to the destruction of the earth.

Abstain from the abominable and detestable act of homosexuality. It pollutes and defiles the earth.


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

You know what's defiling the earth? CO emissions, pollution, nuclear wastes. Two same gender people having sex together is none of your business, you can base your moral code off of your religion but not everyone is the same as you. Let people do what they want and live how they want

Lawag3:


We can't. we love you all that's why we are on the street many Christian you see on the street preaching have something else they can do but they leave their businesses and jobs just to make sure you are saved that you escaped hell they don't want you to suffer eternal pain . In the bible Jesus tells believers if you love your neighbor you'll tell them about me . Christian are on the streets for a good reason, they want your salvation. Its like a neighbor warning the other of a coming danger . Is that wrong.

What are the homosexuals on the street for? I think they are seeking validation for their relationships.

I don't think I will be happy in heaven knowing I could have saved my friend from hell.

1. Yh you can tell your friends about Jesus not force them to worship him like you do

2. They're not seeking validation for relationships, they're seeking rights to live because religion seems to cloud people's judgement causing them to see anyone who doesn't have the same beliefs as them as abominations and monsters and non-human which is wrong. Just because someone has a different sexual orientation than you doesn't mean they're not human beings

jaephoenix:

Lol.
You said LGBTQ threatened governments. I asked you to show me where. You pulled up a post where the US was threatening Uganda. I asked you how LGBTQ became a whole US Government, you now came back that you were referring to the LGBTQ agenda.
I believe you are literate(though these days I doubt you are). Again I ask, is the LGBTQ the same as US Government?

You don't have to be thick, given the number of hours you have been forced to study. Homosexuality can refer to the concept or agenda or activities. Using LGBT, LGBTQ, gay etc. is synonymous to buttress your discussion and definition. The topic/thread is about how homosexuality hurts. Your accomplice Reed was defending the lie that there's no hurt or threat, that's why i showed the clear threat. It's a threat from homosexuality not necessarily by homos. i see your brain is thick and don't expect you to understand. The reply is for readers, not you.

THEY'RE HURTING EVERYONE.
WHEN BREASTS ARE SO TANTALISING , WHY?

Lawag3:


We can't. we love you all that's why we are on the street many Christian you see on the street preaching have something else they can do but they leave their businesses and jobs just to make sure you are saved that you escaped hell they don't want you to suffer eternal pain . In the bible Jesus tells believers if you love your neighbor you'll tell them about me . Christian are on the streets for a good reason, they want your salvation. Its like a neighbor warning the other of a coming danger . Is that wrong.

What are the homosexuals on the street for? I think they are seeking validation for their relationships.

I don't think I will be happy in heaven knowing I could have saved my friend from hell.

Homosexuals are on the streets for good reason too. Protesting against people who seek to limit freedoms that every other person has access to is very good reason.

Lawag3:


I didn't doge anything I wanted to quote from secular historians anyway did you know that ancient Roman historians wrote about Jesus.

No they didn't. They wrote about Christians, 150 years after the death of the person Christians believe in.

Jae, your psychotic mind has made it impossible for you to be coherent. Is it not part of why you still keep mentioning my moniker all over the place?

When I asked for your identity so that I could ascertain your mental state before striking you down with some dose of thunder and lightning, what was your response? Did you not disappoint? Yet you are still maligning the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God and the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. Don't you have shame? Well, of course, a psychotic mind does not recognize shame.

To be high on air is part of being elated. It has no adverse effects. No disadvantages. Nothing trumps it. Nothing can measure up to it. You should try it. But, then, you are incapable of such. Your demon infested soul makes you incapable of such. Low-vibration soullish being like you.

jaephoenix:

Again, jae:

Who are you calling a nutcase. Jae, barring the fact that you may be even remotely related to me, I can assure you, jae, that someone as supernaturally blessed and gifted like elated177 has never existed in your lineage, not even in the past 1000 years, and will never exist in your lineage in the next 1000 years, unless, of course, we are or become related in the future, no matter how little.

If you doubt me, present the best and most supernaturally gifted, blessed or talented living person in your lineage. If the person turns out to be better than me, you have earned the right to insult me any how you like. You can also come forward if you believe you are worthy.

I, elated177, am the human masterpiece of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, the one and only true God. I say it unapologetically. I say it with all confidence and boldness. If you are in doubt, come forward and contradict me if you can. If you believe you are better than me or more gifted than me, come and prove it and gain my respect and, probably, the right to insult me for as much and for as long as you like. Finito.

So, are you willing to take up the challenge. Do you think I came here, a faceless forum, to play kpankpangolo? My confidence comes from experiential knowledge, jae. I no dey make mouth.

Jae, you or your chosen person shouldn't forget to introduce yourself when you come.

You haven't earned the right to insult me.

LordReed:


No they didn't. They wrote about Christians, 150 years after the death of the person Christians believe in.

Yes they did and I can show you if you are interested?

LordReed:


Homosexuals are on the streets for good reason too. Protesting against people who seek to limit freedoms that every other person has access to is very good reason.

There are places to seek redress for their grievances not the streets.

jaephoenix:

I dont like drivel.
I asked you why your yahweh is busy killing innocent babies. You told me he wants them in a better place. I asked if you want your kids or yourself in this better place. And you started telling me about this.
Do you think those babies yahweh murdered went to this better place? Going by your notion that we are born sinful, dont you think those babies are headed for hell?

I never said God needs the baby in a better place you love misinterpreting what I say. Death is part of human life unfortunately babies die too when they die, they are not old enough to face judgement, they are still too young to know good and evil so they can't go to hell. I already told you that I would love to go to that place I have been preparing myself trying to live a holy life by Gods grace I will get there.

Lawag3:


There are places to seek redress for their grievances not the streets.

Then Christians should stay in their churches since since that is the avenue specifically for their faith.

Lawag3:


Yes they did and I can show you if you are interested?

Sure go ahead.

RatCabbage:


1. Yh you can tell your friends about Jesus not force them to worship him like you do

2. They're not seeking validation for relationships, they're seeking rights to live because religion seems to cloud people's judgement causing them to see anyone who doesn't have the same beliefs as them as abominations and monsters and non-human which is wrong. Just because someone has a different sexual orientation than you doesn't mean they're not human beings

Like I do? How do you know I force people to accept Christ? Seems like you had an over religious parents being over religious without Christ is dangerous and most over religious parents end up chasing their children from God.

Christ told us to hate sin and love people this includes sinners so any Christian that hates and seeks to kill homosexuals are doing their own work not God's work

Having different sexuality is Not wrong according to many human laws but to God it's an abomination

LordReed:


Then Christians should stay in their churches since since that is the avenue specifically for their faith.

Their fates specifically tells them to go out to people like you if you love you and doing it is not wrong is it?

LordReed:


Sure go ahead.

THE TESTIMONY OF SECULAR HISTORY

Sacred history in the New Testament documents has shown us ample evidence of the historicity of Christ�s death and resurrection. Not surprisingly, secular history has far less concerning the traveling preacher from an obscure Empire outpost. However, even secular history is not silent concerning Christ.

Flavius Josephus

Now, there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works,--a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. he was (the) Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.
The Jewish Talmud
The Talmud is a holy book of tradition and commentary in Jewish eyes. it has been collected in huge volumes, which anyone interested can see. In the copy published in 1943 in Amsterdam, one can read on page 42.
Jesus was crucified one day before the Passover. We warned Him for 40 days that He would be killed because He was a magician and planned to deceive Israel with His delusions. Whoever wished to do so was asked to defend him, and when none did, He was crucified on the eve of the Passover. Does anyone dare to defend Him? Was He not a stirrer up of evil? It is said in the prophets, Deuteronomy chapter 13, verse 8-9, "You shalt not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; but you shall surely kill him. . . ."
Roman and Greek Historians
The death of Christ on the cross in confirmed by early historians, heathen and Jewish.
Tacitus, the historian who was a heathen, wrote in the year A.D. 55, detailing passages about the crucifixion of Christ and his sufferings. Furthermore, the Roman historians Pliny the Younger and Seutonius, along with non-Roman historians Thallus, Phlegon, and the satirist Lucian of Samsota, refer to the crucifixion of Jesus in their writings. (Martin Hengel�s book, Crucifixion in the Ancient World, gives more details.)
The Greek historian, Lucien, who lived around A.D. 100, was an outstanding writer. he told of the death of Christ and the growing group of Christians. He was an Epicurean who could not understand the faith of Christians and their readiness to die for Christ. In his writings he ridiculed the Christians� belief in the immortality of the soul and their longing for heaven. He looked on them as a deceived people clinging to uncertainties after death rather than living for the present. One of the most significant allusions to the subject of Christ in his writings is this: "The Christians continue to worship that great man who was crucified in Palestine because he brought a new religion to the world."

The question of whether Jesus historically existed is part of the study undertaken in the quest for the historical Jesus and the scholarly reconstructions of his life.[1][2][3] Virtually all scholars of antiquity accept that Jesus was a historical figure[note 1][note 2][4][5][6][7] and dismiss denials of his existence as a fringe theory, while many details like his alleged miracles and theological significance are subject to debate.

Standard historical criteria have aided in evaluating the historicity of the gospel narratives,[13][14] and only two key events are almost universally accepted, namely that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and crucified by order of the Roman prefect Pontius Pilate.[10][11][9][15]

Besides the gospels, sources for the historicity of Jesus include Roman historians Josephus and Tacitus, who lived shortly after the time of Jesus and referenced him and his followers in their histories. from Wikipedia

jaephoenix:

Who?

Just read this

THE TESTIMONY OF SECULAR HISTORY

Sacred history in the New Testament documents has shown us ample evidence of the historicity of Christ�s death and resurrection. Not surprisingly, secular history has far less concerning the traveling preacher from an obscure Empire outpost. However, even secular history is not silent concerning Christ.

Flavius Josephus

Now, there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works,--a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. he was (the) Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.
The Jewish Talmud
The Talmud is a holy book of tradition and commentary in Jewish eyes. it has been collected in huge volumes, which anyone interested can see. In the copy published in 1943 in Amsterdam, one can read on page 42.
Jesus was crucified one day before the Passover. We warned Him for 40 days that He would be killed because He was a magician and planned to deceive Israel with His delusions. Whoever wished to do so was asked to defend him, and when none did, He was crucified on the eve of the Passover. Does anyone dare to defend Him? Was He not a stirrer up of evil? It is said in the prophets, Deuteronomy chapter 13, verse 8-9, "You shalt not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; but you shall surely kill him. . . ."
Roman and Greek Historians
The death of Christ on the cross in confirmed by early historians, heathen and Jewish.
Tacitus, the historian who was a heathen, wrote in the year A.D. 55, detailing passages about the crucifixion of Christ and his sufferings. Furthermore, the Roman historians Pliny the Younger and Seutonius, along with non-Roman historians Thallus, Phlegon, and the satirist Lucian of Samsota, refer to the crucifixion of Jesus in their writings. (Martin Hengel�s book, Crucifixion in the Ancient World, gives more details.)
The Greek historian, Lucien, who lived around A.D. 100, was an outstanding writer. he told of the death of Christ and the growing group of Christians. He was an Epicurean who could not understand the faith of Christians and their readiness to die for Christ. In his writings he ridiculed the Christians� belief in the immortality of the soul and their longing for heaven. He looked on them as a deceived people clinging to uncertainties after death rather than living for the present. One of the most significant allusions to the subject of Christ in his writings is this: "The Christians continue to worship that great man who was crucified in Palestine because he brought a new religion to the world."

So Jesus was a real person he wasn't fiction.

Lawag3:


Their fates specifically tells them to go out to people like you if you love you and doing it is not wrong is it?

You don't get it do you? You cannot say one group of people has the right to state their message in public while another group doesn't. Thankfully the law doesn't limit them but left to people like you they wouldn't have the chance.

Lawag3:


Tacitus, the historian who was a heathen, wrote in the year A.D. 55, detailing passages about the crucifixion of Christ and his sufferings.

Still reading the post but I had to respond to this very quickly. I dunno where you got this information from but Tacitus was born in 56CE so how could he have written anything in 55CE?

So Jesus was a real person he wasn't fiction.

This was not the point of this particular discussion. You said historians wrote about Jesus while I said they wrote about Christians.

LordReed:


Still reading the post but I had to respond to this very quickly. I dunno where you got this information from but Tacitus was born in 56CE so how could he have written anything in 55CE?



This was not the point of this particular discussion. You said historians wrote about Jesus while I said they wrote about Christians.

The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Jesus, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116) sorry little mistake

LordReed:


You don't get it do you? You cannot say one group of people has the right to state their message in public while another group doesn't. Thankfully the law doesn't limit them but left to people like you they wouldn't have the chance.

So I send you a video of them stating their message in public? I have seen their so called stating of message if they were just stating their message no one would complain in one of it one carried a sign that says Jesus was gay

Lawag3:


The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Jesus, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116) sorry little mistake

Referred to Jesus doesn't mean he was talking about Jesus. He was talking about Christians and that they believe in Jesus, its not the same as talking about Jesus.

Lawag3:


So I send you a video of them stating their message in public? I have seen their so called stating of message if they were just stating their message no one would complain in one of it one carried a sign that says Jesus was gay

So? Should I send you pictures of Christians carrying signs saying homosexuals should be killed?

LordReed:


So? Should I send you pictures of Christians carrying signs saying homosexuals should be killed?

Wait haven't you heard of the commandments that says thou shall not kill even Christ says who lived by the sword will die by the sword the bible even says murderers shall not be in God's kingdom you know that Christians are forbidden from killing but you choose to ignore that. Why? Let me say it again those people aren't Christian by pratice it is easy to say I'm a Christian but very hard to genuinely be one.

Lawag3:


Wait haven't you heard of the commandments that says thou shall not kill even Christ says who lived by the sword will die by the sword the bible even says murderers shall not be in God's kingdom you know that Christians are forbidden from killing but you choose to ignore that. Why? Let me say it again those people aren't Christian by pratice it is easy to say I'm a Christian but very hard to genuinely be one.

Well go tell that to those Christians who say the Bible says to kill homosexuals.