The attempt at emotional blackmail didn't go unnoticed. It failed woefully. You know, when you tag anyone who vehemently opposes homosexuality a homosexual. That is a failed attempt at hushing the truth. Actually, if people had vehemently and relentlessly spoken out against the abomination called homosexuality in the parts of the world where it has now been approved, probably it would have still remained what it is --- abominable, detestable, unnatural, abnormal and evil and vile.

It is even the homosexuals who hate and despise those who do not approve of their abominable lifestyle. The evil in their minds knows no bounds. It is even the homosexuals who are ready to destroy, kill or eliminate, if they could, anyone who condemns their wicked lifestyle. And I mean those whose only opinion was mere condemnation of your evil act and nothing more. You have invaded all the institutions and are looking for ways to pull down everything morally upright just so you could practise your abomination. So, don't just keep acting like you are a harmless and powerless "minority". Satan and the demons have strategically placed you people in various
important positions in order to wage war against everything morally upright.

So, you see, etrange, the evil forces behind this your "minority" are working assiduously. Your "minority" is not harmless. Every spiritually knowledgeable person knows this.

I hate and despise homosexuality. I don't support physical violence against anyone because of his/her race, tribe, religion, language or sexual orientation. Etrange, you cannot make me or this thread say the contrary.

Etrange, that you likened racism to homophobia shows how wicked your heart is. The human mind can be influenced to practise homosexuality. No one is born a homosexual.

If you were warming up to start flaunting the abomination called homosexuality publicly, sorry to disappoint you. Go back to the closet because it is not happening anytime soon.

Etrange, if you are a homosexual, you can always talk to the Set-apart Spirit of truth of YHVH Almighty for help and deliverance. He will open your eyes to see the evil forces behind homosexuality and why. Homosexuality is a demonic act. Whether you believe the existence of demons or not doesn't change it.

You can imagine adding the approval of homosexuality to all the other problems that are already plaguing the society. Na wa o! Anyone who is even suggesting such a wicked thing hates you more than you will ever imagine.

You just straight up hate gay people and you're just using your religion
to mask your hatred.

That's why unbelievers call you guys cherry pickers, it’s because one particular sin
is what you fixate on rather than a host of others.

Why does homosexuality rile Nigerians up so much, when there are so many others?

PS: Google has unearthed that Nigerians are big watchers of gay porn.

You holier than thou hypocrites are saying one thing in public and doing something else in secret.

Tctrills, there are some attractions that are unnatural and unclean. Where does sexual attraction come from? Is it not the mind? If the mind can be influenced to do or practise certain things which aren't wired into the brain by the Creator, who told you that sexual attraction can't be unnatural or unclean.

The mind can be influenced to crave or desire things that are contrary to nature. Isn't this the specialty of the worshippers of Satan and the demons?

elated177:


Tctrills, there are some attractions that are unnatural and unclean. Where does sexual attraction come from? Is it not the mind? If the mind can influenced to do or practise certain things which are wired into the brain by the Creator, who told you that sexual attraction can't be unnatural or unclean.

The mind can be influenced to crave or desire things that are contrary to nature. Isn't this the specialty of the worshippers of Satan and the demons?

You keep screaming unnatural! Unnatural! But your Bible is filled with Unnatural activities

elated177:


Tctrills, there are some attractions that are unnatural and unclean. Where does sexual attraction come from? Is it not the mind? If the mind can influenced to do or practise certain things which are wired into the brain by the Creator, who told you that sexual attraction can't be unnatural or unclean.

The mind can be influenced to crave or desire things that are contrary to nature. Isn't this the specialty of the worshippers of Satan and the demons?

You are the same lying guy right?

What, tctrills, are you talking about.

elated177:
It was even etrange who factored culture into the discourse. I am even glad that he/she did. He/she couldn't stand what he heard.

Everything makes one or more cases against homosexuality. The heavens, the ground, the animals that move and live in the waters and on the ground, the plants, the birds of the air, etc, all make one or more cases against homosexuality. It is only a few humans who have decided to support the abomination called homosexuality.

Wilgrea7, what do you suppose I appeal to? Science? Homosexuality is evil, vile, abominable, unnatural through and through.

You've said nothing new. etrange previously asked you a question which you failed to answer, so I'll ask you again.

How exactly do the birds, plants, waters and ground make their case against homosexuality? What did the birds or plants say to you, or do, that made you arrive at this conclusion?

The phrase "appeal to science" doesn't make much sense. Science is not a set of beliefs or practices like culture, neither is it a set of writings like religious scriptures.

Trying to determine whether something is good or bad has always been about examining how it affects our wellbeing, both individually, and collectively. I'll admit moral questions can sometimes be difficult to answer, but appealing to culture or religious books doesn't make it any easier.

tctrills:
you think it's devils who have been cursed by God that are attracted to their fellow men. You are still a child.

Yet you could not counter it because it is True that it is only devils and children of devils who have this madness. Normal people don't. So, You don't have any thing to say devil.

Dtruthspeaker:


Yet you could not counter it because it is True that it is only devils and children of devils who have this madness. Normal people don't. So, You don't have any thing to say devil.

It's hard to counter when an adult talks like a child. No verse in the bible teaches what you say.

tctrills:

It's hard to counter when an adult talks like a child. No verse in the bible teaches what you say.

It is impossible to counter because "THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH"

Dtruthspeaker:


It is impossible to counter because "THERE IS NO VALID ARGUMENT AGAINST THE TRUTH"

Lool
Oga just because you make a statement does not make it true. If you had proved it with scripture then that's a different thing. I could tell you that I sleep in the moon everyday. Anyone can say anything these days.

[quote author=etrange post=121448286] The bible already foretold a time like this when people like you will flood the earth claiming to be wise but are actually foolish.

tctrills:

Lool
Oga just because you make a statement does not make it true. If you had proved it with scripture then that's a different thing. I could tell you that I sleep in the moon everyday. Anyone can say anything these days.

Truth will always be truth, regardless of whether I made the statement or not. So you don't have any valid thing to say then to howl and lament your destruction.

Wilgrea7:
...Trying to determine whether something is good or bad has always been about examining how it affects our wellbeing, both individually, and collectively. I'll admit moral questions can sometimes be difficult to answer, but appealing to culture or religious books doesn't make it any easier.

Beyond well being is the fact that it breaks The Law! Eg people having sex in public do not harm our well being according to you, yet it is prohibited and punished.

1Sharon:


You keep screaming unnatural! Unnatural! But your Bible is filled with Unnatural activities

Yeah! Makers of Law are never under The Law!

Dtruthspeaker:


Truth will always be truth, regardless of whether I made the statement or not. So you don't have any valid thing to say then to howl and lament your destruction.

Oga, how old are you? You really need to grow up. You need to learn that just because you think something is true, that does not make it true.

tctrills:

Oga, how old are you? You really need to grow up. You need to learn that just because you think something is true, that does not make it true.

Truth will always be truth, regardless of what I think or do not think. You don't have any thing to say.

Dtruthspeaker:
Exactly how 2 people having sex in public is offensive to everyone normal person is how homosexuality is offensive to normal people. It is no different from beastiality.

Do homosexuals have sex in public?

LordReed:


Do homosexuals have sex in public?

We can feel their wrongness and it is as strong and evil and repulsive as sex in the public.

elated177:
It was even etrange who factored culture into the discourse. I am even glad that he/she did. He/she couldn't stand what he heard.

Everything makes one or more cases against homosexuality. The heavens, the ground, the animals that move and live in the waters and on the ground, the plants, the birds of the air, etc, all make one or more cases against homosexuality. It is only a few humans who have decided to support the abomination called homosexuality.

Wilgrea7, what do you suppose I appeal to? Science? Homosexuality is evil, vile, abominable, unnatural through and through.

How are animals making a case against homosexuality when it has been observed in almost all animals?

Dtruthspeaker:


We can feel their wrongness and it is as strong and evil and repulsive as sex in the public.

Really? What does this "feeling" feel like? From what distance do you feel it?

Dtruthspeaker:


Yeah! Makers of Law are never under The Law!

A senator is not held by the laws he helped make? Oh wow quick someone tell Ekweremadu so he can walk away free of charge!

Dtruthspeaker:


Beyond well being is the fact that it breaks The Law! Eg people having sex in public do not harm our well being according to you, yet it is prohibited and punished.

It is prohibited as an offense to morality not because it physically harms people. I thought you are a lawyer, how do you not know this? LoLz.

LordReed:

It is prohibited as an offense to morality not because it physically harms people. I thought you are a lawyer, how do you not know this? LoLz.

I have told you before that All morals are Laws. It was when God allowed you people to have your kings, that was when your kings created your law toy called "legal".

And legal would have completely collapded if it did not have many of Moral/Law in it.

And so you are speaking from legal, and I I am speaking from Law, and legal is not Law!

Thus, offence to morality is offence at Law.

LordReed:


A senator is not held by the laws he helped make? Oh wow quick someone tell Ekweremadu so he can walk away free of charge!

He did not create the one in England but the one in Nigeria, you can see no one is touches him.

Dtruthspeaker:


He did not create the one in England but the one in Nigeria, you can see no one is touches him.

Huh? You didn't hear he was under investigation by EFCC? His son even alleges his trial in the UK was instigated by the EFCC. Besides you think corrupt politicians are the way things should be? Wow.

etrange:


Hhmm... Your religion is no not based any natural laws, sir. In fact, that statement violates the definition of religion. When you call on the Bible to substantiate your argument, it makes it difficult to have a chat with you. You just can't have a conversation with someone of a different religion using your Bible as a basis. It makes zero sense. I don't know why you guys don't see that. There's nothing to discuss if you can't set your religion aside. When we all start viewing the world through the lense of our respective religions, it begets crises. Bokoharam, ISIS, etc. came about as a result of people not being able coexist with people of different beliefs. The fact that we're educated means we should know when to stick with our religion without forcing it down the throats of others.

Meanwhile, I said there was no homophobia in Africa before the advent of the white man. I don't see how homophobia in Russia in 2013 answers that. Africa had gay people before the white man. The Yoruba word for a gay person predates the advent of the white man. Africa (and some other cultures around the world) had no need for homophobia because there was nothing in ATR that antagonized gay people.

Discrimination of any kind is never nature's way of communicating. Discrimination is man-made. It is born out of man's inability to accommodate differences. If you want to protect nature, plant trees, makes laws to control hunting, use green energy, etc. Stop killing people and saying you're protecting nature. It's just not logical.

Bro Christianity is against homosexual acts but it also tells Christians not to hate on anybody so homophobia is also a sin. What the bible tell Christians to do is to warn people about the consequences of their sins God hates sin but he loves everyone unconditionally whether gay or straight but the sin of homosexuality is not just an ordinary sin but he calls it an abomination because it goes against the natural laws he set that is a man to a woman Adam and eve not Adam and Steve. To demonstrate his love for man he gave all of us the gift of salvation no matter the sins you have committed you can be save as long as you receive this gift before death. The bible also tells Christians to show love be reminding sinners about the gift and telling them the consequences of not receiving the gift.

Dtruthspeaker:


I have told you before that All morals are Laws. It was when God allowed you people to have your kings, that was when your kings created your law toy called "legal".

And legal would have completely collapded if it did not have many of Moral/Law in it.

And so you are speaking from legal, and I I am speaking from Law, and legal is not Law!

Thus, offence to morality is offence at Law.

I have told you to carry this to Supreme court and stop trying to bamboozle us here. Your attempts at semantic dribbling are just pathetic and you know it.

Dtruthspeaker:


Truth will always be truth, regardless of what I think or do not think. You don't have any thing to say.

Now you are making sense. The truth has nothing to do with what you think and how you feel.
So please next time don't just blow out your feelings. Make sure that you are on the side of truth.

Wilgrea7, it is not for you to know how the animals and plants make a case against homosexuality. What will you do such with such knowledge?

What, exactly, do you usually do when you claim science has done this and done that and you, erroneously, I might add, juxtapose it with religion? Were you appealing to science?

Without religion or culture, where does the sense of right or wrong come from, wilgrea7?

elated177:
Wilgrea7, it is not for you to know how the animals and plants make a case against homosexuality. What will you do such with such knowledge?

What, exactly, do you usually do when you claim science has done this and done that, when you, erroneously, I might add, juxtapose it with religion? Were you appealing to science?

Without religion or culture, were does the sense of right or wrong come from, wilgrea7?

What about intersex people?

tctrills:

Now you are making sense. The truth has nothing to do with what you think and how you feel.
So please next time don't just blow out your feelings. Make sure that you are on the side of truth.

Truth will always be truth, regardless of the lies you say and the delusions you use to comfort your discomfort.