LordReed:


I have told you to carry this to Supreme court and stop trying to bamboozle us here. Your attempts at semantic dribbling are just pathetic and you know it.

Is supreme court not the same people and supreme house of legal I am attacking?

Just say you are frustrated that you can not counter .

LordReed:

Huh? You didn't hear he was under investigation by EFCC? His son even alleges his trial in the UK was instigated by the EFCC. Besides you think corrupt politicians are the way things should be? Wow.

Anybody can be investigated but will they punish him for his evil? We shall see now, but we have also seen too many lawmakers escape from punishment, they were not even arrested or made to face trial eg king Obasanjo over the Odi village massacre, king Buhari over herdsmen attack. The one Senator Abbo did to that shop girl, did he get punished for it? No

It is about legal that George Orwell was talking about in Animal Farm , for it is in it that you all men are not equal and many are more equal than the populace.

It is only under Law there is inequality. But you people chose legal over Law, so you guys must enjoy the the nonsense of legal.

Maybe one day, your king would command the killings of all you devils called atheists and homosexuals, that would be legal.

LordReed:


Really? What does this "feeling" feel like? From what distance do you feel it?

The same way sex in public is.

Dtruthspeaker:


The same way sex in public is.

Well what do you feel when you see sex in the public, I don't feel anything.

Dtruthspeaker:


Anybody can be investigated but will they punish him for his evil? We shall see now, but we have also seen too many lawmakers escape from punishment, they were not even arrested or made to face trial eg king Obasanjo over the Odi village massacre, king Buhari over herdsmen attack. The one Senator Abbo did to that shop girl, did he get punished for it? No

It is about legal that George Orwell was talking about in Animal Farm , for it is in it that you all men are not equal and many are more equal than the populace.

It is only under Law there is inequality. But you people chose legal over Law, so you guys must enjoy the the nonsense of legal.

Maybe one day, your king would command the killings of all you devils called atheists and homosexuals, that would be legal.

So to you corrupt people getting away with crimes is supposed to be the norm?

Dtruthspeaker:


Is supreme court not the same people and supreme house of legal I am attacking?

Just say you are frustrated that you can not counter .

LoLz. There is no need to counter because any sane person can see you are talking trash.

LordReed:


LoLz. There is no need to counter because any sane person can see you are talking trash.

Sane people already know that you can't counter because "There is no valid argument against The Truth".

LordReed:

So to you corrupt people getting away with crimes is supposed to be the norm?

Are you not the one crying that I want devils and corrupt people to be judged and killed?

You don't have any thing to say.

LordReed:


Well what do you feel when you see sex in the public, I don't feel anything.

Devil just had to ask this rubbish question, because you already know that your feelings are scattered.

The same thing everybody out there who say sex in public is wrong, feels!

Dtruthspeaker:


Are you not the one crying that I want devils and corrupt people to be judged and killed?

You don't have any thing to say.

You have to thicker than a brick and a half to think that the only way to treat crime is by killing.

Dtruthspeaker:


Devil just had to ask this rubbish question, because you already know that your feelings are scattered.

The same thing everybody out there who say sex in public is wrong, feels!

Scattered by what? People say things are wrong for all sorts of reasons, you said you feel something when you see sex in public but when asked what you feel you refused to say. You are the one who can't describe your own feelings, how is that my fault?

LordReed:


Scattered by what? People say things are wrong for all sorts of reasons, you said you feel something when you see sex in public but when asked what you feel you refused to say. You are the one who can't describe your own feelings, how is that my fault?

I already answered you.

LordReed:


You have to thicker than a brick and a half to think that the only way to treat crime is by killing.

I am thicker than a mahogany tree and if only Isreal had followed through with God's Plan, crime would have been eradicated, the earth would have been healed and blessed and men would have started living longer and richer and sweeter lives as it was the beginning.

But now, new plan and new world and only those who understand, will be inhabitants of that new world and this crime filled world can be hotter than a volcano with all the criminals in it.

elated177:
Etrange, it is ok if you don't want to believe the Scriptures and what they have said and have to say. It is your prerogative now that you are still here in this present time.


On the emboldened:

The abominable act of homosexuality was never part of my culture. It is still not part of culture. Was/is homosexuality part of your own culture?

I am glad you didn't say that they are using the Scriptures to justify or approve of the abominable act of homosexuality. The scriptural views on the detestable act of homosexuality have never changed and will never change. It remains an abomination for ever.

Further info:

Those who were used by the Owner of Scriptures to bring them to our ancestors are long dead.

The problem with theists, especially the fundamentalists is plain ignorance. Bro, your ancestors both here and in Africa practiced homosexuality. It was a norm.
African history is replete with examples of both erotic and nonerotic same-sex relationships. For example, the ancient cave paintings of the San people near Guruve in Zimbabwe depict two men engaged in some form of ritual sex. During precolonial times, the “mudoko dako,” or effeminate males among the Langi of northern Uganda were treated as women and could marry men. In Buganda, one of the largest traditional kingdoms in Uganda, it was an open secret that Kabaka (king) Mwanga II, who ruled in the latter half of the 19th century, was gay.

etrange:


It's okay if your religion is against homosexuality. What is not okay is you using your religion to judge others. The logic of "my religion does not permit this, therefore you must not do it" makes zero sense. Regardless of how attached one is to his religion, he must not lose sight of the fact that there others who either have other religions or are completely irreligious. You've already said they're not hurting anyone. You don't have to go out of your way to drag them or jail them like in Nigeria. If you believe being gay is bad, don't be gay. However, let others who believe otherwise be themselves. Your Bible tells you they're destroying the world, yet none of the major wars in the past was caused by gay people. These wars were mostly caused by men who don't know how to coexist with people of different opinions, lifestyles or features. So you know what really destroyed the earth? Your inability to live and let live. The world would be a better place if you just do you and let others be.

It was never part of your culture? Ok, let's get this straight. When I asked what your culture said about it, I wasn't really asking if there were gay men back then. That's because the existence of gay people is not peculiar to any culture or time. Gay people have been in existing for as long as man has been around. What changes over time is people's disposition towards them. So the question I was asking is, have you ever heard any story of gay people being attacked in those days? Homophobia was imported into Africa by Europeans. Many African cultures were not homophobic before the advent of the white man.

The bolded is the etiology of diseases like Boko Haram, Isis etc and many Christian terrorist groups came up

Dtruthspeaker:
Exactly how 2 people having sex in public is offensive to everyone normal person is how homosexuality is offensive to normal people. It is no different from beastiality.

When gay men are having sex in a lounge in Lekki, how would it offend you that is miles away and ignorant of their existence, never mind their sexuality?

Dtruthspeaker:


We judge others based on natural laws and unfortunately our religion is founded upon Natural Law.

And under Natural Law, homosexuals are guilty and condemnable.



Yes! They were immediately killed when caught in the past

www.reuters.com
Russia's gays fear more violence after brutal murder
13 May 2013 — They beat him. They shoved beer bottles in his anus. They tried to set him on fire. Then they crushed his head with a ..."



This is not true. Africans did not have any need for homophobia because we were not under the Curse in Romans 1:24/ 27.

Homophobia is nature's way of saying "destroy this abomination quickly lest evil and curses come."

But now the cursed has transmitted their curses to Africa and now our blessed Africa is now cursed.

Your own ignorance sef na follow-come.
Africa had homosexuals, even had kings as gays. And the king was groping young boys like crazy.
And no christianity isn't built on natural laws. Homosexuality is natural, just so you know

MaxInDHouse:
When we tell you that you must belong to the global family of the house of faith where each member is subjected to the same line of thought regarding what the scriptures say {John 17:22} you will say it's not necessary now you have to deal with the fact that your book is of no relevance to everyone {2Thessalonians 3:2} because they don't see it as the word of the supreme being which should influence their thoughts! Hebrews 4:12

So continue arguing with them when true disciples of Christ have our own global family of peace loving worshipers under one umbrella! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Zephaniah 3:9

This one own na to dey parrot senseless JW narrative upandan. I don't need mol@sters around me

elated177:
Tctriils, who do you think is responsible for sexual attraction?

Question is 'what', not 'who', and that what is the brain. The hypothalamus, to be precise

jaephoenix:

When gay men are having sex in a lounge in Lekki, how would it offend you that is miles away and ignorant of their existence, never mind their sexuality?

The idea of people doing what you feel is evil in one's society is it not that you're directly offended!

Ordinarily hearing that a man and another man are mating is offensive to others just as you're reading about pedophilia in places far away from you when it hasn't happened to you or your child offended you!

So when two men are mating and someone feels offended even though they aren't doing it to him or his son it means we all need to come together to talk about what should be allowed or disallowed in our society!

elated177:
Etrange, there are also spiritual causes of wars.

Two people who are in same-sex relationship may not be causing harm to anyone directly, but the abominable and unnatural act defiles the earth. When the earth is defiled, who suffers it? So, you see, etrange, homosexuality is a dangerous act. It constitutes danger to both the perpetrators and the others. This is simple to understand.

What if a person decides to pollute the only source of drinking water in his/her community, should he/she be allowed to do him/her?

What would my culture say about something that was never part of it? Such an act would have been considered strange and those who were caught in it dealt with. In fact, such an act was unheard of. We have names for many things, but there is no name for homosexuality in my language.

Homosexuality has been in existence since time immemorial, so have the evil spirits.


Can you mention some of the African cultures that weren't homophobic?

1. You're still viewing the world through your religion lenses. It doesn't work that way. I may decide to judge you based on my religion, and then conflict begins. Why is live and let live a problem with theists?
2. About African history, I think you need a good education.
African history is replete with examples of both erotic and nonerotic same-sex relationships. For example, the ancient cave paintings of the San people near Guruve in Zimbabwe depict two men engaged in some form of ritual sex. During precolonial times, the “mudoko dako,” or effeminate males among the Langi of northern Uganda were treated as women and could marry men. In Buganda, one of the largest traditional kingdoms in Uganda, it was an open secret that Kabaka (king) Mwanga II, who ruled in the latter half of the 19th century, was gay.
Even ancient Egyptian paintings depicted homosexuality before the pyramids

jaephoenix:

This one own na to dey parrot senseless JW narrative upandan. I don't need mol@sters around me

This is what i've been telling you all these while!

You call people "molesters" when they frown at the act but at the same time you want to promote homosexuality and lesbianism when the society in which you live frowns at it.

Don't you see how hypocritical you are?

We aren't pampering molesters nor do we condone the act so calling us molesters makes you a hypocrite who doesn't want to reason!

etrange:


1) You said homosexuality defiles the earth, and that makes people suffer. I asked how, and your answer is that there's a particular order of things? We're talking about people's lives here, and you're giving these vague and shallow answers? How does two men kissing in their room make you suffer. Give a practical answer with examples.

2) That's all you had to say to end this chat, bro. The only justification you have for discriminating a certain minority is your Bible. That's what I've always maintained, and like I said, there's no discussion to be had in that case. This is where I stopped reading.

You cannot justify homophobia in practical terms yet you hate them so much that you had to create a thread to express the hatred in a country where they are already discriminated as it is. The good thing is, it's only a matter of time before the gay people in Africa gets thier freedom. Humans will always discriminate against other humans of different nature, but freedoms come when it is due. Blacks fought the good fight, and they are better off today. Women in some parts of the Middle East are fighting the good fight, and things are brightening up for them. Gay people in Africa will have thier time.

By the way, real straight people don't wake up thinking about homosexuals and they definitely don't go about creating threads about them. Talk to someone if you need to.

Ciao !

Bull's-eye, bro.
Its only low key gays that create these threads. They are a few gay gropes from riding dicks. DTruthSpeaker and Elated177 should man up and follow their passions. No one's gonna judge them. Definitely not me

1Sharon:
You just straight up hate gay people and you're just using your religion
to mask your hatred.

That's why unbelievers call you guys cherry pickers, it’s because one particular sin
is what you fixate on rather than a host of others.

Why does homosexuality rile Nigerians up so much, when there are so many others?

PS: Google has unearthed that Nigerians are big watchers of gay porn.

You holier than thou hypocrites are saying one thing in public and doing something else in secret.

Bobrisky, a perceived homosexual has millions of followers on his instagram handle. He cops a lot of hate from people, so who are those following him? Ghosts? Nigerians are the biggest hypocrites ever liveth

Wilgrea7:


You've said nothing new. etrange previously asked you a question which you failed to answer, so I'll ask you again.

How exactly do the birds, plants, waters and ground make their case against homosexuality? What did the birds or plants say to you, or do, that made you arrive at this conclusion?

The phrase "appeal to science" doesn't make much sense. Science is not a set of beliefs or practices like culture, neither is it a set of writings like religious scriptures.

Trying to determine whether something is good or bad has always been about examining how it affects our wellbeing, both individually, and collectively. I'll admit moral questions can sometimes be difficult to answer, but appealing to culture or religious books doesn't make it any easier.

Your fellow agnostic, TrollRonaldo is being grilled on a similar thread like this. Dude toes Elated homophobic line with hate, but stopped short of saying 'Yahweh said kill all gays'. And he's saying science backs homosexuality

Dtruthspeaker:


Beyond well being is the fact that it breaks The Law! Eg people having sex in public do not harm our well being according to you, yet it is prohibited and punished.

Does those having sex in private run afoul of law?

Dtruthspeaker:


We can feel their wrongness and it is as strong and evil and repulsive as sex in the public.

Lol. If you feel homosexuals in Nigeria making out, you must be numb by now. Your beeper would break down

Dtruthspeaker:


He did not create the one in England but the one in Nigeria, you can see no one is touches him.

So, no senator has gone to jail for running afoul of the law in Nigeria?
How did you get your LLB?

Lawag3:


Bro Christianity is against homosexual acts but it also tells Christians not to hate on anybody so homophobia is also a sin. What the bible tell Christians to do is to warn people about the consequences of their sins God hates sin but he loves everyone unconditionally whether gay or straight but the sin of homosexuality is not just an ordinary sin but he calls it an abomination because it goes against the natural laws he set that is a man to a woman Adam and eve not Adam and Steve. To demonstrate his love for man he gave all of us the gift of salvation no matter the sins you have committed you can be save as long as you receive this gift before death. The bible also tells Christians to show love be reminding sinners about the gift and telling them the consequences of not receiving the gift.

Does this 'natural laws' apply to animals?

elated177:
Wilgrea7, it is not for you to know how the animals and plants make a case against homosexuality. What will you do such with such knowledge?

What, exactly, do you usually do when you claim science has done this and done that and you, erroneously, I might add, juxtapose it with religion? Were you appealing to science?

Without religion or culture, where does the sense of right or wrong come from, wilgrea7?

Sense of right or wrong can come from human interrelation.
At the bolded, we want to know because its important in this discourse

jaephoenix:

Bobrisky, a perceived homosexual has millions of followers on his instagram handle. He cops a lot of hate from people, so who are those following him? Ghosts? Nigerians are the biggest hypocrites ever liveth

Abi, and who are those funding his lifestyle by sleeping with him?

They need to miss me with their hypocrisy

Dtruthspeaker:


Anybody can be investigated but will they punish him for his evil? We shall see now, but we have also seen too many lawmakers escape from punishment, they were not even arrested or made to face trial eg king Obasanjo over the Odi village massacre, king Buhari over herdsmen attack. The one Senator Abbo did to that shop girl, did he get punished for it? No

It is about legal that George Orwell was talking about in Animal Farm , for it is in it that you all men are not equal and many are more equal than the populace.

It is only under Law there is inequality. But you people chose legal over Law, so you guys must enjoy the the nonsense of legal.

Maybe one day, your king would command the killings of all you devils called atheists and homosexuals, that would be legal.

We're not talking about corruption here. We're talking about culpability. Stop being evasive. Never mind. I forgot this is 'Dtruthspeaker'