Lawag3:


Nope he didn't he only did It after pharoah proved to be very stubborn.

In the bolded it says pharaoh's heart is unyielding he refused to let them go anytime God hardened pharaoh's heart the bible says it but as you can see his heart was already unyielding.

I believe you can read and write. Yahweh clearly stated told Moses he'll harden the pharaoh's heart before moses stepped out to confront the pharaoh to let them leave

You must think your condescending attitude gives you some kind of edge over others. It only shows how empty you truly are, jae.

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Who are you calling a nutcase. Jae, barring the fact that you may be even remotely related to me, I can assure you, jae, that someone as supernaturally blessed and gifted like elated177 has never existed in your lineage, not even in the past 1000 years, and will never exist in your lineage in the next 1000 years, unless, of course, we are or become related in the future, no matter how little.

If you doubt me, present the best and most supernaturally gifted, blessed or talented living person in your lineage. If the person turns out to be better than me, you have earned the right to insult me any how you like. You can also come forward if you believe you are worthy.


Finally, if you think I am a homosexual because I am vehemently opposing it, all you need to do is catch me doing it. Yes, all you need to do is catch me sticking my penis into another man's smelling butthole, jae. Nkita rachaa gi anya there.

Jae, abstain from faggotry. It is an abominable filth.

Lawag3:


Unfortunately that's how sin works it brings God's anger on everyone.

1. So killing innocent babies is ok, if their parents are sinful?
2. Being an all merciful god why didn't he deal with the Pharaoh without involving the innocent babies?
Think carefully

elated177:
You must think your condescending attitude gives you some kind of edge over others. It only shows how empty you truly are, jae.



Who are you calling a nutcase. Jae, barring the fact that you may be even remotely related to me, I can assure you, jae, that someone as supernaturally blessed and gifted like elated177 has never existed in your lineage, not even in the past 1000 years, and will never exist in your lineage in the next 1000 years, unless, of course, we are or become related in the future, no matter how little.

If you doubt me, present the best and most supernaturally gifted, blessed or talented living person in your lineage. If the person turns out to be better than me, you have earned the right to insult me any how you like. You can also come forward if you believe you are worthy.


Finally, if you think I am a homosexual because I am vehemently opposing it, all you need to do is catch me doing it. Yes, all you need to do is catch me sticking my penis into another man's smelling butthole, jae. Nkita rachaa gi anya there.

Jae, abstain from faggotry. It is an abominable filth.

Lol.
Such an intelligent dude yet he doesn't understand basic science
You were angry cos I called you gay without seeing you practicing it, yet you call me gay in your next breath(without even knowing who I am or if I'm gay)
Ara ka nma na okorobia

jaephoenix:

You are wasting your time. I will continue to propagate the truth of YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. Homosexuality is an abomination. I will never stop preaching against it.

I, elated177, am the human masterpiece of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, the one and only true God. I say it unapologetically. I say it with all confidence and boldness. If you are in doubt, come forward and contradict me if you can. If you believe you are better than me or more gifted than me, come and prove it and gain my respect and, probably, the right to insult me for as much and for as long as you like. Finito.

So, are you willing to take up the challenge. Do you think I came here, a faceless forum, to play kpankpangolo? My confidence comes from experiential knowledge, jae. I no dey make mouth.

jaephoenix:

You are not a faggòt and you are promoting faggotry? Are you being paid to do that?

Ara nke gbawa siri gi isi, okwa ya? Ihe nkita rachaa ra anya.

elated177:


You are wasting your time. I will continue to propagate the truth of YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. Homosexuality is an abomination. I will never stop preaching against it.

I never told you to stop preaching against it. If you like open a church, mount speakers and be hating on homosexuality. Your headache, your business.
What we are saying is treat them as you would treat a regular person (which was what directed in your holy book, in the first place). Don't assault or kill them. Simple
You have comprehension skills. Where am I promoting homosexuality?
By the way, you and your yahweh are as useful as p in psychology.
Tell him to send lightning after me, fagggot

jaephoenix:

Good. Show me the clip where LGBTQ is threatening governments

i have already given you your marks, you don't need to disturb me further to change it. Now, dance around again.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27933051

Rants and rambles of a scared child. Where did I suggest or imply the killing of homosexuals, mkpi ohia?


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I have no desire to open a "church". I am church, jae.

Oji onu egbu tu nkwụ . Take up my challenge, faggòt.

jaephoenix:

1. So killing innocent babies is ok, if their parents are sinful?
2. Being an all merciful god why didn't he deal with the Pharaoh without involving the innocent babies?
Think carefully

Everyone has sin me you new born babies we are all born into sin

jaephoenix:

What were you suggesting?

Homosexuality is a sin but not a crime in most places . I leave them to God to judge them

As long as they do their stuff without forcing others to acknowledge them then I'm good

jaephoenix:

What were you suggesting?

Homosexuality is a sin but not a crime in most places . I leave them to God to judge them

As long as they do their stuff without forcing others to acknowledge them then I'm good .

jaephoenix:

I believe you can read and write. Yahweh clearly stated told Moses he'll harden the pharaoh's heart before moses stepped out to confront the pharaoh to let them leave

Nope he didn't say before you step out, he said pharoah will be unyielding and I will hardened his heart.

Lawag3:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-VSGG_9sws

There are more but just start with this one

Right. Sorry for the late response. I'm quite busy
1. The first 'evidence' talked about James(Jacob) brother of Jesus.
Well, it has been found to be a fake(like many evidences of your Jesus). Read these excerpts from different sources. You can do your own independent researches

a.
The inscription, reading “James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus” has been authenticated by two eminent paleographers (specialists in dating, interpreting and authenticating inscriptions): André Lemaire of the Sorbonne and Ada Yardeni of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. In 2003, however, the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) appointed a committee of scholars to study the “brother of Jesus” inscription and report its findings. The committee concluded that the inscription was a forgery.

b.
In 2003, The Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) argued that the inscriptions were forged at a much later date.[5] In December 2004, Oded Golan was charged with 44 counts of forgery, fraud, and deception, including forgery of the Ossuary inscription

2. Piece of heel bone of a ?20 year old man found with nails stuck there.

a.
Now isn't it odd that all we can find of this particular skeleton is just his heel bone. The rest of his bones were hacked off. People don't just decompose and leave only their heel bones. In this case, just the heel was seen, the rest of the feet which includes the toes, phalanges were gone, leaving part of the calcaneum(heel bone). That screams fake.

b. This is an excerpt from an archaeological article
… It is therefore an odd fact that archaeological evidence of this punishment — crosses, for example, or perforated skeletons — has never been found anywhere in the world, with one exception: this one

c. The inscription said Yehohanan, son of Hagakol. Doesn't exactly sound like Jesus, does it?

d. Another excerpt proving that even if it was real, it wasnt Jesus …
The position of the stake was evidence of a crucifixion technique that had not previously been known, according to museum curator David Mevorah. In the image of crucifixion made famous by Christian iconography, Jesus is pictured with both feet nailed to the front of the vertical beam of the cross. But this man’s feet had been affixed to the sides of the beam with nails hammered separately through each heel.



e.
That bone was from a 20 year old man. According to your Bible, Jesus died around 33 years, a good 13 years late

f. Now the clincher, if the bones of Jesus was found, that means he died, like every other mortal, and his body decomposes. So how is he a god? And didn't yall tell us in the Bible he ascended?
Remember you just told me some posts ago that Jesus was the only god whose tomb was not found
So whose bones was in that ossuary youre proudly displaying as evidence of Jesus existence?

3. A stone bearing Pontius Pilate found somewhere. Lol.
This is like saying that since New York exists then Spiderman really does exist. Nuff said
No need to expantiate on this

4. The earthquake around the time Jesus died.

This is what I got…

In terms of the earthquake data alone, Williams and his team acknowledge that the seismic activity associated with the crucifixion could refer to “an earthquake that occurred sometime before or after the crucifixion and was in effect ‘borrowed’ by the author of the Gospel of Matthew, and a local earthquake between 26 and 36 A.D. that was sufficiently energetic to deform the sediments of Ein Gedi but not energetic enough to produce a still extant and extra-biblical historical record.” “If the last possibility is true, this would mean that the report of an earthquake in the Gospel of Matthew is a type of allegory,” they write
Meaning its conjectural, and not a proven evidence.

5. An edict prohibiting tomb robberies. This is like number 3 above. The edict could have been for robbery of some tombs, and not necessarily Jesus's

6. Graffito depicting a man Alexamenos worshipping his god, an ass-headed man.
Again, I got this…

No clear consensus has been reached on when the image was made. Dates ranging from the late 1st to the late 3rd century have been suggested, with the beginning of the 3rd century thought to be the most likely.
It may be related to Jesus, or not!

7. This talked about historians talking about jesus.
One was Josephus. Now this is a known fake, which I talked about.
A new article just beats this dead horse deader still. Hat tip to Vridar and Peter Kirby. Honestly. The evidence that the Testimonium Flavianum (or TF) is entirely a late Christian forgery is now as overwhelming as such evidence could ever get.
Read more of it here.
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/7437

Next up is Pliny the Younger, and this is about his letters…
Neither Pliny nor Trajan mentions the crime that Christians were supposed to have committed, except for being a Christian; and other historical sources do not provide a simple answer to what that crime could be, but most likely due to the stubborn refusal of Christians to worship Roman gods; making them appear as objecting to Roman rule.

As you can see, he talked about Christians, and not Jesus. Its just like somebody telling you Islam is real or Mohammed is a prophet because Muslims were jailed.
Does it make sense?

Next up was Origen, a Christian theologer. What the Bleep do you expect a Christian theologer to say about Jesus?
To say he didn't exist?


See, I didn’t become an atheist by chance. I really did go through all the evidences pro and con about religion(and christianity specifically) and they were all anecdotal.

So bring on the next evidences you have, but please read through them. You just wasted my time
Thank you

Image123:


i have already given you your marks, you don't need to disturb me further to change it. Now, dance around again.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27933051

I believe you can read and write. You wrote LGBTQ threatening governments. Now you're posting about the US Government threatening Uganda. When did LGBTQ become the whole US Government? Did it also occur to you the US have a paeliament like Capitol Hill which has GOP who are anti-gay?

elated177:
Rants and rambles of a scared child. Where did I suggest or imply the killing of homosexuals, mkpi ohia?






I have no desire to open a "church". I am church, jae.

Oji onu egbu tu nkwụ . Take up my challenge, faggòt.

1. I didn't specifically mean you kill homosexuals. I mean your ilk. Christians like you. Its common knowledge some christians have assaulted and killed gays , not just in Nigeria, but other parts of the world.

2. If you like open a church. Your business, bitttcch

3. Which challenge?
OKAY, JAEPHOENIX, FIRST OF HIS NAME, THE FAVORITE OF THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER, HEREBY DARE ELATED AND HIS BITTCCH, YAHWEH TO SEND LIGHTNING AND STRIKE ME DEAD THIS SECOND

Lawag3:


Everyone has sin me you new born babies we are all born into sin

What has this answer got to do with my questions?
I thought I told you to think properly(because I know you'll post one half assed answer). Read my question and answer it.
Even if babies are born into sin, is the remedy to murder them all? Imagine if Yahweh murdered you or your son, because you (allegedly) were born into sin?

Lawag3:


Homosexuality is a sin but not a crime in most places . I leave them to God to judge them

As long as they do their stuff without forcing others to acknowledge them then I'm good

Good. Now you're talking. LGBTQ doesnt want acknowledgement. They want equal treatment. Just treat then as regular folks. Don't be too good or bad. End of

LordReed:
Lawag3
I would like you to watch this video and tell me what you think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ehr7uYee6U

What else do you think Lawag3 would say? That bittchh sounds exactly like him, and many other Christians here who want to force down their religious views on other religions. Isn't that what Boko Haram is doing? Only Lawag3 is doing it, sans bombs

Lawag3:


Many do support the organization it was made to protect them wasn't it?

Not everyone supports how their organizations runs its agenda.

jaephoenix:

What has this answer got to do with my questions?
I thought I told you to think properly(because I know you'll post one half assed answer). Read my question and answer it.
Even if babies are born into sin, is the remedy to murder them all? Imagine if Yahweh murdered you or your son, because you (allegedly) were born into sin?

Do you know why God allows physical death? In humans since we were created to be immortals.


When sin came into this world God knew that sick twisted people would come into this world commiting abomination imagine a world where Hitler can't die imagine immortal serial killers this world would be terrible. So God made it that our average age of we live long would be 120. He gives us many opportunities in our lifetime to repent but when we die it's gone. When God brought punishment on Sodom and Gomorrah it wasn't a remedy for their sins, they were already passed redemption.

The Children that died although it may sound somehow to you but they are in a better place this world is cruel and they were lucky not to experience it fully.

Children die every day, some tragic and painful death and it hurts God since this wasn't how he wanted the earth to be like. Anyway the place they are now is free of pain and suffering. Do you know why God hates Sin ? Because sin is the only thing capable of corrupting any good thing God has made.

LordReed:
Lawag3
I would like you to watch this video and tell me what you think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ehr7uYee6U

I think all this sexual talk or gender orientation should not be in the hands of the school. I think that's a parents job.

I think the parents should be involved if schools want to have a sexual or gender orientation class I .

jaephoenix:

Right. Sorry for the late response. I'm quite busy
1. The first 'evidence' talked about James(Jacob) brother of Jesus.
Well, it has been found to be a fake(like many evidences of your Jesus). Read these excerpts from different sources. You can do your own independent researches

a.
The inscription, reading “James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus” has been authenticated by two eminent paleographers (specialists in dating, interpreting and authenticating inscriptions): André Lemaire of the Sorbonne and Ada Yardeni of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. In 2003, however, the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) appointed a committee of scholars to study the “brother of Jesus” inscription and report its findings. The committee concluded that the inscription was a forgery.

b.
In 2003, The Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) argued that the inscriptions were forged at a much later date.[5] In December 2004, Oded Golan was charged with 44 counts of forgery, fraud, and deception, including forgery of the Ossuary inscription

2. Piece of heel bone of a ?20 year old man found with nails stuck there.

a.
Now isn't it odd that all we can find of this particular skeleton is just his heel bone. The rest of his bones were hacked off. People don't just decompose and leave only their heel bones. In this case, just the heel was seen, the rest of the feet which includes the toes, phalanges were gone, leaving part of the calcaneum(heel bone). That screams fake.

b. This is an excerpt from an archaeological article
… It is therefore an odd fact that archaeological evidence of this punishment — crosses, for example, or perforated skeletons — has never been found anywhere in the world, with one exception: this one

c. The inscription said Yehohanan, son of Hagakol. Doesn't exactly sound like Jesus, does it?

d. Another excerpt proving that even if it was real, it wasnt Jesus …
The position of the stake was evidence of a crucifixion technique that had not previously been known, according to museum curator David Mevorah. In the image of crucifixion made famous by Christian iconography, Jesus is pictured with both feet nailed to the front of the vertical beam of the cross. But this man’s feet had been affixed to the sides of the beam with nails hammered separately through each heel.



e.
That bone was from a 20 year old man. According to your Bible, Jesus died around 33 years, a good 13 years late

f. Now the clincher, if the bones of Jesus was found, that means he died, like every other mortal, and his body decomposes. So how is he a god? And didn't yall tell us in the Bible he ascended?
Remember you just told me some posts ago that Jesus was the only god whose tomb was not found
So whose bones was in that ossuary youre proudly displaying as evidence of Jesus existence?

3. A stone bearing Pontius Pilate found somewhere. Lol.
This is like saying that since New York exists then Spiderman really does exist. Nuff said
No need to expantiate on this

4. The earthquake around the time Jesus died.

This is what I got…

In terms of the earthquake data alone, Williams and his team acknowledge that the seismic activity associated with the crucifixion could refer to “an earthquake that occurred sometime before or after the crucifixion and was in effect ‘borrowed’ by the author of the Gospel of Matthew, and a local earthquake between 26 and 36 A.D. that was sufficiently energetic to deform the sediments of Ein Gedi but not energetic enough to produce a still extant and extra-biblical historical record.” “If the last possibility is true, this would mean that the report of an earthquake in the Gospel of Matthew is a type of allegory,” they write
Meaning its conjectural, and not a proven evidence.

5. An edict prohibiting tomb robberies. This is like number 3 above. The edict could have been for robbery of some tombs, and not necessarily Jesus's

6. Graffito depicting a man Alexamenos worshipping his god, an ass-headed man.
Again, I got this…

No clear consensus has been reached on when the image was made. Dates ranging from the late 1st to the late 3rd century have been suggested, with the beginning of the 3rd century thought to be the most likely.
It may be related to Jesus, or not!

7. This talked about historians talking about jesus.
One was Josephus. Now this is a known fake, which I talked about.
A new article just beats this dead horse deader still. Hat tip to Vridar and Peter Kirby. Honestly. The evidence that the Testimonium Flavianum (or TF) is entirely a late Christian forgery is now as overwhelming as such evidence could ever get.
Read more of it here.
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/7437

Next up is Pliny the Younger, and this is about his letters…
Neither Pliny nor Trajan mentions the crime that Christians were supposed to have committed, except for being a Christian; and other historical sources do not provide a simple answer to what that crime could be, but most likely due to the stubborn refusal of Christians to worship Roman gods; making them appear as objecting to Roman rule.

As you can see, he talked about Christians, and not Jesus. Its just like somebody telling you Islam is real or Mohammed is a prophet because Muslims were jailed.
Does it make sense?

Next up was Origen, a Christian theologer. What the Bleep do you expect a Christian theologer to say about Jesus?
To say he didn't exist?


See, I didn’t become an atheist by chance. I really did go through all the evidences pro and con about religion(and christianity specifically) and they were all anecdotal.

So bring on the next evidences you have, but please read through them. You just wasted my time
Thank you

Was Pontius Pilate a real person? let's start from here

Lawag3:


Do you know why God allows physical death? In humans since we were created to be immortals.


When sin came into this world God knew that sick twisted people would come into this world commiting abomination imagine a world where Hitler can't die imagine immortal serial killers this world would be terrible. So God made it that our average age of we live long would be 120. He gives us many opportunities in our lifetime to repent but when we die it's gone. When God brought punishment on Sodom and Gomorrah it wasn't a remedy for their sins, they were already passed redemption.

The Children that died although it may sound somehow to you but they are in a better place this world is cruel and they were lucky not to experience it fully.

Children die every day, some tragic and painful death and it hurts God since this wasn't how he wanted the earth to be like. Anyway the place they are now is free of pain and suffering. Do you know why God hates Sin ? Because sin is the only thing capable of corrupting any good thing God has made.

I'm practically guffawing now. The lengths Christian go to defend their God is risible. I knew you'll toe this line, and I'm waiting for you patiently.
Ok. So the babies are in a better place, right?
Would you like to go to that 'better place?'
Would you want your baby to be in this 'better place' and not in your arms?
Hell, why do y'all christians fast and pray for your babies not to die and be in this 'better place'?
Why do you say Yahweh has given you life and no death(thereby avoiding this 'better place'?
You even say this death ( this 'better place') is not your portion?
You see why I warned you to think properly (and not regurgitate what you have been programmed to auto-reply)?

Lawag3:


I think all this sexual talk or gender orientation should not be in the hands of the school. I think that's a parents job.

I think the parents should be involved if schools want to have a sexual or gender orientation class I .

The education of a child is in the state's hand. And that is for good reasons.
Imagine if a bigot like DTruthSpeaker or some Muslim extremist has children and inculcates it into their head that all gays, Muslims, blacks must die wherever they see them….
Yup. You'll end up a country of all sorts of bigots, extremists, haters etc.
Listen. Not everyone has to be a chrsitian, unfortunately. Imagine countries where their laws ignore every other religions and enforce their own religious laws, like Saudi, Pakistan etc. Would you like it as a Christian? I guess not. But you'll love where christianity is enforced, ignoring or persecuting others
Isnt that double standards?
Savvy?

Lawag3:


Was Pontius Pilate a real person? let's start from here

Lol. You dodged all those posts and pushed the Pontius Pilate post.
Right, lemme oblige you
Yeah, he was a real person? Any ish?

jaephoenix:

I believe you can read and write. You wrote LGBTQ threatening governments. Now you're posting about the US Government threatening Uganda. When did LGBTQ become the whole US Government? Did it also occur to you the US have a paeliament like Capitol Hill which has GOP who are anti-gay?

That's why i said you are more ignorant than i imagined. i was referring to the LGBTQ agenda all the time, not to your specific irrelevant gay friends.

Lawag3:


I think all this sexual talk or gender orientation should not be in the hands of the school. I think that's a parents job.

I think the parents should be involved if schools want to have a sexual or gender orientation class I .

So who is silencing this woman?

You acted like you didn't see what I said earlier, only for you to ask me to strike you with lightning.

Look at what I said:

elated177:


Who are you calling a nutcase. Jae, barring the fact that you may be even remotely related to me, I can assure you, jae, that someone as supernaturally blessed and gifted like elated177 has never existed in your lineage, not even in the past 1000 years, and will never exist in your lineage in the next 1000 years, unless, of course, we are or become related in the future, no matter how little.

If you doubt me, present the best and most supernaturally gifted, blessed or talented living person in your lineage. If the person turns out to be better than me, you have earned the right to insult me any how you like. You can also come forward if you believe you are worthy.

elated177:
I, elated177, am the human masterpiece of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, the one and only true God. I say it unapologetically. I say it with all confidence and boldness. If you are in doubt, come forward and contradict me if you can. If you believe you are better than me or more gifted than me, come and prove it and gain my respect and, probably, the right to insult me for as much and for as long as you like. Finito.

So, are you willing to take up the challenge. Do you think I came here, a faceless forum, to play kpankpangolo? My confidence comes from experiential knowledge, jae. I no dey make mouth.

jaephoenix:

Are you also going to disappoint like you did in the past?

LordReed:


So who is silencing this woman?

She's in a place where she can't be silenced. This is where people who advocate for the gay rights should be. They should leave the streets.

Lawag3:



She's in a place where she can't be silenced. This is where people who advocate for the gay rights should be. They should leave the streets.

So Christians should leave the streets too?

jaephoenix:

I'm practically guffawing now. The lengths Christian go to defend their God is risible. I knew you'll toe this line, and I'm waiting for you patiently.
Ok. So the babies are in a better place, right?
Would you like to go to that 'better place?'
Would you want your baby to be in this 'better place' and not in your arms?
Hell, why do y'all christians fast and pray for your babies not to die and be in this 'better place'?
Why do you say Yahweh has given you life and no death(thereby avoiding this 'better place'?
You even say this death ( this 'better place') is not your portion?
You see why I warned you to think properly (and not regurgitate what you have been programmed to auto-reply)?

Death isn't the better place . I would want to go to that better place I have been preparing for it. many Christian do all it takes to go there we leave our former life of sin, comfort and we kill lust we try to live a life of holiness all in preparation for a spot in that place . True we all want our babies in our arms like who wouldn't, but if the baby dies we console ourselves knowing that the baby is in a better place. Know this there is life after death.