LordReed:


Referred to Jesus doesn't mean he was talking about Jesus. He was talking about Christians and that they believe in Jesus, its not the same as talking about Jesus.

So who did Pontius Pilate execute? Because he also talked about that ? He talked about Jesus crucifixion also.

What about the Jewish Talmud or the whole nation of Israel include a myth in their history.

This is what The Greek historian, Lucien, had to say:The Christians continue to worship that great man who was crucified in Palestine because he brought a new religion to the world."

Don't argue if Jesus was real that is undebatable

Lawag3:


So who did Pontius Pilate execute? Because he also talked about that ? He talked about Jesus crucifixion also.

What about the Jewish Talmud or the whole nation of Israel include a myth in their history.

This is what The Greek historian, Lucien, had to say:The Christians continue to worship that great man who was crucified in Palestine because he brought a new religion to the world."

Don't argue if Jesus was real that is undebatable

Who is arguing if Jesus is real with you? Is it that you have an agenda so what someone says to you doesn't penetrate your head? I specifically wrote this:

LordReed:

This was not the point of this particular discussion. You said historians wrote about Jesus while I said they wrote about Christians.

To remind you that we are not discussing if Jesus was real or not.

We are discussing if those historians were talking about Jesus or Christians. Take a look at the screenshot below to reorient yourself to the discussion.

LordReed:


Well go tell that to those Christians who say the Bible says to kill homosexuals.

In the constitution Moses made for the Israelites he told them to stone homosexuals to death guess what? The Israelites are not Christians they are Jews those Christian you talk about are following the laws of Moses.

Christianity is more than a religion it's rooted in Christ we are supposed to be like Christ. Jesus told God to forgive the people who killed him . when Peter attacked the people who came to arrest him he rebuked Peter and heal the person Peter harm . That's why i told you a religious person without Christ is dangerous.

So if you see such Christian remind them that they are just like you . That is you are both without Christ.

LordReed:


Who is arguing if Jesus is real with you? Is it that you have an agenda so what someone says to you doesn't penetrate your head? I specifically wrote this:



To remind you that we are not discussing if Jesus was real or not.

We are discussing if those historians were talking about Jesus or Christians. Take a look at the screenshot below to reorient yourself to the discussion.

Send me the link let me read it for myself.

If I can remember you once said Jesus was imaginary if it isn't you then sorry.

Lawag3:


Send me the link let me read it for myself.

If I can remember you once said Jesus was imaginary if it isn't you then sorry.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliny_the_Younger_on_Christians

I never said Jesus was imaginary. So yeah you must have confused me with someone else.

LordReed:


Who is arguing if Jesus is real with you? Is it that you have an agenda so what someone says to you doesn't penetrate your head? I specifically wrote this:



To remind you that we are not discussing if Jesus was real or not.

We are discussing if those historians were talking about Jesus or Christians. Take a look at the screenshot below to reorient yourself to the discussion.

Yeah and I agree that he was talking about Christians not Jesus but he made reference to a teaching of Jesus that the Christians followed and he didn't know that this was the teaching of Jesus

Image123:


You don't have to be thick, given the number of hours you have been forced to study. Homosexuality can refer to the concept or agenda or activities. Using LGBT, LGBTQ, gay etc. is synonymous to buttress your discussion and definition. The topic/thread is about how homosexuality hurts. Your accomplice Reed was defending the lie that there's no hurt or threat, that's why i showed the clear threat. It's a threat from homosexuality not necessarily by homos. i see your brain is thick and don't expect you to understand. The reply is for readers, not you.

Mr. Thin Brain, you specifically said LGBTQ was threatening governments, and you cannot provide evidence to back up your idiotic and ignorant post. Go suck a dicck

elated177:
Jae, your psychotic mind has made it impossible for you to be coherent. Is it not part of why you still keep mentioning my moniker all over the place?

When I asked for your identity so that I could ascertain your mental state before striking you down with some dose of thunder and lightning, what was your response? Did you not disappoint? Yet you are still maligning the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God and the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. Don't you have shame? Well, of course, a psychotic mind does not recognize shame.

To be high on air is part of being elated. It has no adverse effects. No disadvantages. Nothing trumps it. Nothing can measure up to it. You should try it. But, then, you are incapable of such. Your demon infested soul makes you incapable of such. Low-vibration soullish being like you.




Again, jae:

Who are you calling a nutcase. Jae, barring the fact that you may be even remotely related to me, I can assure you, jae, that someone as supernaturally blessed and gifted like elated177 has never existed in your lineage, not even in the past 1000 years, and will never exist in your lineage in the next 1000 years, unless, of course, we are or become related in the future, no matter how little.

If you doubt me, present the best and most supernaturally gifted, blessed or talented living person in your lineage. If the person turns out to be better than me, you have earned the right to insult me any how you like. You can also come forward if you believe you are worthy.

I, elated177, am the human masterpiece of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, the one and only true God. I say it unapologetically. I say it with all confidence and boldness. If you are in doubt, come forward and contradict me if you can. If you believe you are better than me or more gifted than me, come and prove it and gain my respect and, probably, the right to insult me for as much and for as long as you like. Finito.

So, are you willing to take up the challenge. Do you think I came here, a faceless forum, to play kpankpangolo? My confidence comes from experiential knowledge, jae. I no dey make mouth.

Jae, you or your chosen person shouldn't forget to introduce yourself when you come.

You haven't earned the right to insult me.

Again, I cant remember Yahweh reaching for the passports of his victims before murdering them. So why are you doing it. Simply press strike button. Even jazz men dey jazz people without even knowing their names. Just shout incantations over their monikers

Lawag3:


Yes they did and I can show you if you are interested?

Please show us legit shit, not that rubbish you dropped earlier. I don't have time to waste on these your 'evidences'

Lawag3:


There are places to seek redress for their grievances not the streets.

So you now decide where people show their grievances? They have to seek validation from you?

Lawag3:


I never said God needs the baby in a better place you love misinterpreting what I say. Death is part of human life unfortunately babies die too when they die, they are not old enough to face judgement, they are still too young to know good and evil so they can't go to hell. I already told you that I would love to go to that place I have been preparing myself trying to live a holy life by Gods grace I will get there.

So, yahweh did good by slaughtering those babies?

jaephoenix:

So you now decide where people show their grievances? They have to seek validation from you?

It's an opinion what I like and want doesn't affect them unfortunately

Lawag3:


Like I do? How do you know I force people to accept Christ? Seems like you had an over religious parents being over religious without Christ is dangerous and most over religious parents end up chasing their children from God.

Christ told us to hate sin and love people this includes sinners so any Christian that hates and seeks to kill homosexuals are doing their own work not God's work

Having different sexuality is Not wrong according to many human laws but to God it's an abomination

Just like Muslims say their extremists aren't real muslims.
Your views are minority. An average Nigerian christian would gladly murder a homo, if allowed

jaephoenix:

So, yahweh did good by slaughtering those babies?

Babies die unfortunately my God is a God that answers take your complaints to him

Lawag3:


Their fates specifically tells them to go out to people like you if you love you and doing it is not wrong is it?

Just like some muslims say their qoran specifically tells them to kill infidels like christians.

jaephoenix:

Just like some muslims say their qoran specifically tells them to kill infidels like christians.

Well yes that's what Islam tells moslems. Islam is different from Christian Mohammed is different from jesus

jaephoenix:

Mr. Thin Brain, you specifically said LGBTQ was threatening governments, and you cannot provide evidence to back up your idiotic and ignorant post. Go suck a dicck

It's ironic that you think you can hurt me by calling me homosexual. Remember to practice the second commandment of love and extend same message to your parents. Use that God given brain please.

Lawag3:


Just read this

THE TESTIMONY OF SECULAR HISTORY

Sacred history in the New Testament documents has shown us ample evidence of the historicity of Christ�s death and resurrection. Not surprisingly, secular history has far less concerning the traveling preacher from an obscure Empire outpost. However, even secular history is not silent concerning Christ.

Flavius Josephus

Now, there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works,--a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. he was (the) Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.
The Jewish Talmud
The Talmud is a holy book of tradition and commentary in Jewish eyes. it has been collected in huge volumes, which anyone interested can see. In the copy published in 1943 in Amsterdam, one can read on page 42.
Jesus was crucified one day before the Passover. We warned Him for 40 days that He would be killed because He was a magician and planned to deceive Israel with His delusions. Whoever wished to do so was asked to defend him, and when none did, He was crucified on the eve of the Passover. Does anyone dare to defend Him? Was He not a stirrer up of evil? It is said in the prophets, Deuteronomy chapter 13, verse 8-9, "You shalt not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; but you shall surely kill him. . . ."
Roman and Greek Historians
The death of Christ on the cross in confirmed by early historians, heathen and Jewish.
Tacitus, the historian who was a heathen, wrote in the year A.D. 55, detailing passages about the crucifixion of Christ and his sufferings. Furthermore, the Roman historians Pliny the Younger and Seutonius, along with non-Roman historians Thallus, Phlegon, and the satirist Lucian of Samsota, refer to the crucifixion of Jesus in their writings. (Martin Hengel�s book, Crucifixion in the Ancient World, gives more details.)
The Greek historian, Lucien, who lived around A.D. 100, was an outstanding writer. he told of the death of Christ and the growing group of Christians. He was an Epicurean who could not understand the faith of Christians and their readiness to die for Christ. In his writings he ridiculed the Christians� belief in the immortality of the soul and their longing for heaven. He looked on them as a deceived people clinging to uncertainties after death rather than living for the present. One of the most significant allusions to the subject of Christ in his writings is this: "The Christians continue to worship that great man who was crucified in Palestine because he brought a new religion to the world."

So Jesus was a real person he wasn't fiction.

Did you read my rebuttals on these scholars earlier? Many of them were found to fakes, some copied from others.
The catch in their testimony is this. They said there was a 3 hour worldwide eclipse(which was recorded in the bible. Now how come such an eclipse wasnt captured elsewhere in contemporary history?

LordReed:


You don't get it do you? You cannot say one group of people has the right to state their message in public while another group doesn't. Thankfully the law doesn't limit them but left to people like you they wouldn't have the chance.

The dude is a bigot. He's trying very hard to conceal it but its plain

LordReed:


Still reading the post but I had to respond to this very quickly. I dunno where you got this information from but Tacitus was born in 56CE so how could he hbutacitusen anything in 55CE?



This was not the point of this particular discussion. You said historians wrote about Jesus while I said they wrote about Christians.

Thats one of the reasons his writings about jesus were pronounced fake

Lawag3:


The Roman historian and senator Tacitus referred to Jesus, his execution by Pontius Pilate, and the existence of early Christians in Rome in his final work, Annals (written ca. AD 116) sorry little mistake

Again, did you read my first rebuttal, on the first video about evidence of Jesus existence? Looks like you don't bother about reading other people views. If that's the case, then no need to continue this discourse

jaephoenix:

Again, did you read my first rebuttal, on the first video about evidence of Jesus existence? Looks like you don't bother about reading other people views. If that's the case, then no need to continue this discourse

I didn't let me go back and read it.

Lawag3:


Wait haven't you heard of the commandments that says thou shall not kill even Christ says who lived by the sword will die by the sword the bible even says murderers shall not be in God's kingdom you know that Christians are forbidden from killing but you choose to ignore that. Why? Let me say it again those people aren't Christian by pratice it is easy to say I'm a Christian but very hard to genuinely be one.

Do you listen to yourself?
This is the same exact shit Muslims say when you talk about Boko Haram. Do you know your bible supports killing gays?

Lawag3:


So who did Pontius Pilate execute? Because he also talked about that ? He talked about Jesus crucifixion also.

What about the Jewish Talmud or the whole nation of Israel include a myth in their history.

This is what The Greek historian, Lucien, had to say:The Christians continue to worship that great man who was crucified in Palestine because he brought a new religion to the world."

Don't argue if Jesus was real that is undebatable

Read my first rebuttal

Lawag3:


In the constitution Moses made for the Israelites he told them to stone homosexuals to death guess what? The Israelites are not Christians they are Jews those Christian you talk about are following the laws of Moses.

Christianity is more than a religion it's rooted in Christ we are supposed to be like Christ. Jesus told God to forgive the people who killed him . when Peter attacked the people who came to arrest him he rebuked Peter and heal the person Peter harm . That's why i told you a religious person without Christ is dangerous.

So if you see such Christian remind them that they are just like you . That is you are both without Christ.

… and guess what they'll say? They'll say you aren't a christian, you don't obey the bible

Lawag3:


Send me the link let me read it for myself.

If I can remember you once said Jesus was imaginary if it isn't you then sorry.

Im the person that said jesus was imaginary. And you sent me a video. Unfortunately the video was just plain bullshit, which I dissected and explained why its bullshit. And yet you didn't read my rebuttals, but still posting contents of the crappy video

Lawag3:


Babies die unfortunately my God is a God that answers take your complaints to him

You dodged that question. Lemme repeat. So yahweh was right in murdering those helpless babies

Lawag3:


Well yes that's what Islam tells moslems. Islam is different from Christian Mohammed is different from jesus

They have the same theme. Islam insist theirs is a religion of peace, while their members murder people. Same way you insist christianity is all about love, but most christians won't hesitate to hurt or kill gays. At least you can see from their comments here on Nairaland

Image123:


It's ironic that you think you can hurt me by calling me homosexual. Remember to practice the second commandment of love and extend same message to your parents. Use that God given brain please.

Extend the same to yours too. Engaging you in a logical discourse is useless

jaephoenix:

You dodged that question. Lemme repeat. So yahweh was right in murdering those helpless babies

Ask him yourself to me God is always right

Lawag3:


In the constitution Moses made for the Israelites he told them to stone homosexuals to death guess what? The Israelites are not Christians they are Jews those Christian you talk about are following the laws of Moses.

Christianity is more than a religion it's rooted in Christ we are supposed to be like Christ. Jesus told God to forgive the people who killed him . when Peter attacked the people who came to arrest him he rebuked Peter and heal the person Peter harm . That's why i told you a religious person without Christ is dangerous.

So if you see such Christian remind them that they are just like you . That is you are both without Christ.

So where did Jesus tell you to resist gay people from speaking in public about their struggles?

BTW that's your problem, you tell them they are not Christians. Someone like Dtruthspeaker for example, you need to tell him he is not a Christian.

Dtruthspeaker:

We already have a right to kill atheists and other devils.

Lawag3:


Ask him yourself to me God is always right

Oh lol. You suddenly stopped being his spokesman? What a volteface!
Well, if he's always right, why does he repent of his actions, like common mortals?