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Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills(op): 7:31am On Dec 08, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I have told you times without number that as long as a doctrine is ACHIEVING WHAT GOD PURPOSED it is not false.
UPDATES doesn't mean something is false it only shows that mankind is imperfect so we can't get perfect understanding of God's word at a go. cheesy
You don't even know God's purpose because tomorrow your leaders would change the definition of God's purpose.
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by oteneaaron(m): 8:03am On Dec 08, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Your own case is really really complicated as you don't even believe the Bible at all! cheesy
Good thing you couldn't deny my statement.

Your GODS are in the USA.
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:16am On Dec 08, 2023
tctrills:
Like I said, he never taught a falsehoods about Jesus.
Asking a question is different from teaching false doctrine.
You ask a question when you don't know instead of teaching the wrong things.
That's what John did and that's what the followers of Jesus Christ do.
They do not operate on guesswork or make up their own definitions.
You love deceiving yourself just to feel OK. cheesy

A teacher of God's word who has disciples he's teaching about the Messiah that's coming after him is questioning the authenticity of the Messiah and you're saying he doesn't teach what he thought to his disciples!

Oya o what exactly did he teach his disciples about the Christ so that the Christians had to UPDATE the understanding of Apollos one of John's disciples? Act 18:24-26

Sometimes i just laugh at your pride because it really shows you're not interested in the truth! cheesy
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:18am On Dec 08, 2023
tctrills:
You don't even know God's purpose because tomorrow your leaders would change the definition of God's purpose.
I have told you the UNCHANGEABLE PURPOSE of God regarding mankind and our planet home because Jesus confirmed it that it's still the same! Matthew 5:5

So you can continue deceiving yourself! wink
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:19am On Dec 08, 2023
oteneaaron:
Good thing you couldn't deny my statement.
Your GODS are in the USA.
Whatever my guy whatever makes you feel better! cheesy
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills(op): 8:51am On Dec 08, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I have told you the UNCHANGEABLE PURPOSE of God regarding mankind and our planet home because Jesus confirmed it that it's still the same! Matthew 5:5

So you can continue deceiving yourself! wink
God's purposes are unchangeable, his truths are unchangeable but your beliefs are changeable, inconsistent and manmade
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills(op): 8:52am On Dec 08, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You love deceiving yourself just to feel OK. cheesy

A teacher of God's word who has disciples he's teaching about the Messiah that's coming after him is questioning the authenticity of the Messiah and you're saying he doesn't teach what he thought to his disciples!

Oya o what exactly did he teach his disciples about the Christ so that the Christians had to UPDATE the understanding of Apollos one of John's disciples? Act 18:24-26

Sometimes i just laugh at your pride because it really shows you're not interested in the truth! cheesy
Asking questions is not the same thing as teaching falsehoods.
Big difference
We ask questions because we don't know but you teach falsehoods because you pretend to know.
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by Emusan(m):
achorladey:
Emusan really need to see this grin grin

The Evil of poverty eradication programme you MaxInDHouse said Peter and others were doing after Jesus returned to where he came from in the books of Acts of Apostles is now the meaning of poor in spirit that qualifies a born again who will gain entrance into God's kingdom grin grin grin cheesy


Poor in spirit changed instantly to possessing and not possessing materials.
Talking about someone who has zero integrity and respect for God, His word and Holy Spirit.

That's why I do say, him and his fellow deluded brothers are from the Devil their father.

Look at the screenshot below about that same issue, even when I brought Watchtower article that says what the Apostles did was an act of GENEROSITY. Yet he keeps changing and twisting his lying mouth.

But as God will continue to expose them, see what he came up with few weeks later.

Cc: Tctrills

Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:14am On Dec 08, 2023
tctrills:
God's purposes are unchangeable, his truths are unchangeable but your beliefs are changeable, inconsistent and manmade
I thought you said you're a Pro in English. cheesy

So you don't know the difference between BELIEVES and UNDERSTANDING how things works out.

God's truth remains that Earth will be mankind's home forever and we will continue to enjoy peace in it! Psalms 37:9-12, 29

That's the BELIEVE of all servants of Jehovah from Abel till today but as for UPDATES on how all these things will happen stage by stage UPDATES is inevitable due to man's imperfection! smiley
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:17am On Dec 08, 2023
tctrills:
Asking questions is not the same thing as teaching falsehoods.
Big difference
We ask questions because we don't know but you teach falsehoods because you pretend to know.
Guy answer this question! cheesy

What exactly did John the baptist teach his disciples about the Christ so that Christians had to UPDATE the understanding of Apollos one of John's disciples? Act 18:24-26 smiley
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by oteneaaron(m): 9:21am On Dec 08, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Whatever my guy whatever makes you feel better! cheesy
But you COMPLETELY TRUST the 9 men who make up the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Their word is LAW.

You MUST OBEY their every command even when it doesn't make any sense.

Can you deny this statement?

"As the end of this system of things draws near, we need to trust in Jehovah’s way of doing things as never before. Why? During the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical." Watchtower Feb 2022 p.6
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by Emusan(m): 9:23am On Dec 08, 2023
tctrills:
I understand him, he is not after the truth. He is only after defending his organization so he does not care if he lies or uses falsehoods.
I am open to new ideas and to changing my opinion but he is only open to lies as long as it's in the interest of JW.
He is just a liar!

If you check most of his post well, you'll understand that he's not really defending the organisation but just his own lying opinion of twisting and peddling lies against God's Word.

because most of his claims always go against Watchtower publications even at the face of confronting him with evidence of Watchtower publications.

Best example is how he once claimed on the forum that what the Apostles did by selling their properties and shared among themselves is EVIL and not from Jesus.

I provided a Watchtower article where it was stated clearly that it'sAN ACT OF GENEROSITY. He tried to claims that was an old light, I then asked him to provide the new article to support his claim. Till now, he hasn't provided any but see how he reverted back to the same what the Apostles did as not only an act of GENEROSITY but a requirement of being BORN AGAIN.

He claimed the name Christian is CURSED AND BASTARDIZED reason why Jehovah gave them new name even when Watchtower says the name was divinely given. Yet going behind to still be claiming that JWs are still Christian.

And many more from him.

His case is just so pathetic!
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:32am On Dec 08, 2023
oteneaaron:
But you COMPLETELY TRUST the 9 men who make up the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. Their word is LAW. You MUST OBEY their every command even when it doesn't make any sense. Can you deny this statement?
WHATEVER makes you feel better! smiley
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by Emusan(m):
MaxInDHouse:
POOR IN SPIRIT are the ones whose attitude is like the ones Jesus talked about:

“Stop storing up for yourselves treasures on the earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal. Rather, store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." Matthew 6:19-21

They don't have any worthy possession other than their brothers and sisters in the faith {Mark 10:29-30} most of them even sold their properties to support the ministry and never expected anything in return that's what Peter and the other apostles did before they were counted worthy of becoming part of the Born Again Christians {Matthew 19:27} while Judas Iscariot who was still eyeing material possessions lost out! smiley
But the other day, you claim that Jesus never taught what the Apostles did.

Not only did you agree now that what they did was GOOD but with this astonish statement "...that's what Peter and the other apostles did before they were counted worthy of becoming part of the Born Again Christians"

When you need more lies to cover the previous lie. cheesy grin grin cheesy

Ever faithful God will continue to expose you and your lying liar hallgoer miscreants here.

Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:24am On Dec 08, 2023
If any of you have a question that's pressing in your heart i will advise you to hint tctrills so that i will address such a question as you all can see i'm not responding to any third party it's either you drop your comment on the OP or hint tctrills on what you want him to ask Max.
So keep following and do enjoy your weekend! wink
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 10:29am On Dec 08, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
https://www.nairaland.com/6828643/bible-wrong
he's doubting God's word!
https://www.nairaland.com/6849153/how-many-fathers-heaven
how many fathers will believers have in heaven!
https://www.nairaland.com/6875643/which-churches-today-following-jesus
this shows he's not worshiping with any group of people at all just like his apostate friends.
https://www.nairaland.com/6941774/why-dont-people-die-churches
he feels God's Holy Spirit should continue killing people like in the first century.
https://www.nairaland.com/6961839/conceived-jesus-christ-father-holy
he is questioning the paternity of God's Son
https://www.nairaland.com/7081153/what-function-holy-ghost
he doesn't know the function of God's Holy Spirit and not ready to learn.
https://www.nairaland.com/7093441/did-jesus-die-those-lived
he is confused whether Christ's death will pay for ancient servants of God.
https://www.nairaland.com/7087883/adam-not-cause-mankinds-problems
outrightly criticizing the Bible at Romans 5:12
https://www.nairaland.com/7060243/which-best-church-join-want
This shows he's materialistic so any religion that will make him rich flies.
https://www.nairaland.com/7179228/world-coming-end-it-getting
He's criticizing God's word that the world is coming to an end.
https://www.nairaland.com/7232550/god-sabbath-it-jesus-christ
He is criticizing God's word as Jesus claims to be the Lord of the Sabbath.
https://www.nairaland.com/7453647/these-last-days
He is doubting God's word regarding the signs of the last days.
https://www.nairaland.com/7515028/those-never-heard-jesus-what
He doesn't know the purpose of those who never heard about Jesus.
https://www.nairaland.com/7505086/jesus-christ-does-not-ability
He is doubting Jesus who is the perfect image of God.
https://www.nairaland.com/7568735/signs-end-not-yet-hand
Doubting God's word about the end time.
https://www.nairaland.com/7565975/what-origin-man
Doubting God's word regarding the origin of man
https://www.nairaland.com/6970625/does-bible-endorse-human-sacrifice
He is against Jesus being the sacrificial lamb that takes away sin.


Politics is his major concern so as long as God is not interested in politics he's doubting God's ability in all regard! wink
Ọmọ shey I no talk am. He's just like them.
Good morning sir
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 10:30am On Dec 08, 2023
tctrills:
Actually the argument was very interesting.
I was arguing with an organization that is made of confused and inconsistent people and beliefs but honestly I enjoyed it
Lol 😂😂
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 10:35am On Dec 08, 2023
tctrills:
Actually the argument was very interesting.
I was arguing with an organization that is made of confused and inconsistent people and beliefs but honestly I enjoyed it
You thinking that an armed robbers could be a born again shows how very confused you're 😂😂😂
It says a lot.
Why not remove the log in your eyes first before trying to remove the speck in our eyes. Bloody confused hypocrite!
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 10:40am On Dec 08, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
So tell me what John meant when he sent his disciples to ask Jesus:

“Are you the Coming One, or are we to expect a different one?” Matthew 11:3

All the Jews from the time of Jacob (Israel) has the same believe that the Christ will start ruling as king whenever he comes so you can't argue this it's clear to any reasonable reader you don't even need to study it because it's as simple as ABC! cheesy
They just read on the surface. They never try to reason deeper logically.
Why would John ask that question if he wasn't expecting something else.

Really some times it take real humility to learn from someone wiser than you.
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 10:43am On Dec 08, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You're just eager to argue you're not composed! cheesy

I said:
"man's understanding of God's word (Bible) must be updated"

Now calm down to read the above and pay attention to the highlighted in blue! smiley
Lol some are naturally dumb obviously. But when you meet someone wiser and knowledgeable than you, you try to learn smiley
Well-done sir!
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:46am On Dec 08, 2023
cornelboy:
Ọmọ shey I no talk am. He's just like them.
Good morning sir
The spirit of apostasy is dwelling in him so the purpose of pure worship he can never see.

APOSTASY began with Satan as he deceived Adam and Eve to reconsider God's order, the couple love to rebel so they joined him from that time till today a great chasm was fixed to separate obedient mankind from rebellious people {Genesis 3:15 compare to Luke 16:26} that's why Jesus could refer to apostates in his own time as seeds of the serpent! John 8:44

Satan is the head of worldly politicians {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} that's why apostates are always interested in politics as they're not patient to see how God's purpose turns out just like Satan, Adam and Eve they just want their own share instantly but they often pretend as if they're fighting for justice exactly the same way Satan compelled Eve to challenge God's sovereignty! Genesis 3:1-5

So if anyone has that same mindset he will never ever be humble enough to subject himself or herself to theocratic arrangements each of them just want to stand on his or her own yet they will be disguising as if they're for God when they're not ready to participate in any form of worship because to them God must stand before them not imperfect humans representing God. That's why they're always looking for faults or errors of imperfect servants of God.

Take for instance Jesus asked the Pharisees if they're like God's faithful servants of old they responded that if they were alive during the time of God's faithful servants they will not be supporters of haters who killed God's servants but here they are looking for ways to execute Jesus! cheesy

So i'm using this medium to help honest hearted individuals who may like to know the attitude of the offsprings of the serpent! wink
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by oteneaaron(m): 10:46am On Dec 08, 2023
cornelboy:
Lol some are naturally dumb obviously. But when you meet someone wiser and knowledgeable than you, you try to learn smiley
Well-done sir!
Here is a woman actually kissing the a.s.s of another man.

Wonders shall never end on Nairaland!!!
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:52am On Dec 08, 2023
cornelboy:
They just read on the surface. They never try to reason deeper logically.
Why would John ask that question if he wasn't expecting something else.

Really some times it take real humility to learn from someone wiser than you.
Ọmọ when i was serving one of our boss looked into my eyes and said:

"You have something unique that i still can't figure out"

Well Jehovah's Witnesses figured it out and i will always thank them for helping me to discover myself! smiley
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:56am On Dec 08, 2023
oteneaaron:
Here is a woman actually kissing the a.s.s of another man. Wonders shall never end on Nairaland!!!
That's exactly how people like me do feel when we meet knowledge and wisdom packaged in one person.

I did much more than him when i was studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses so whenever i see someone like Cornelboy i always advise them to hasting their dedication because they can do better than me if they're willing to trade with the talent given to them! smiley
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills(op): 11:03am On Dec 08, 2023
cornelboy:
You thinking that an armed robbers could be a born again shows how very confused you're 😂😂😂
It says a lot.
Why not remove the log in your eyes first before trying to remove the speck in our eyes. Bloody confused hypocrite!
That's the problem with you, your religion is based on guesswork.
The bible did not state if the robber was born again or not and I am not JW to assume that he wasn't.
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills(op): 11:06am On Dec 08, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Guy answer this question! cheesy

What exactly did John the baptist teach his disciples about the Christ so that Christians had to UPDATE the understanding of Apollos one of John's disciples? Act 18:24-26 smiley
You want to start your guesswork with what John taught or what he did not teach?
Well he never taught falsehoods how about that.
Just because the JW teach falsehoods doesn't mean that John and everyone else did it.
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 11:07am On Dec 08, 2023
tctrills:
That's the problem with you, your religion is based on guesswork.
The bible did not state if the robber was born again or not and I am not JW to assume that he wasn't.
Lol 😂😂😂
The first born agains were even the 120 on the day of Pentecost. Does that ring something to your ear?
You don't know anything I swear.
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by tctrills(op): 11:08am On Dec 08, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I thought you said you're a Pro in English. cheesy

So you don't know the difference between BELIEVES and UNDERSTANDING how things works out.

God's truth remains that Earth will be mankind's home forever and we will continue to enjoy peace in it! Psalms 37:9-12, 29

That's the BELIEVE of all servants of Jehovah from Abel till today but as for UPDATES on how all these things will happen stage by stage UPDATES is inevitable due to man's imperfection! smiley
Did any of these servants of God teach falsehoods to their followers?
Only the JW do so. That's the big difference.
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 11:09am On Dec 08, 2023
oteneaaron:
Here is a woman actually kissing the a.s.s of another man.

Wonders shall never end on Nairaland!!!
That's none of your business. If the a.s.s was bitter I wouldn't have kissed it. It was obviously sweet.
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by oteneaaron(m): 11:10am On Dec 08, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly how people like me do feel when we meet knowledge and wisdom packaged in one person.

I did much more than him when i was studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses so whenever i see someone like Cornelboy i always advise them to hasting their dedication because they can do better than me if they're willing to trade with the talent given to them! smiley
What knowledge?

What wisdom?

Your pride is nauseating.

😅😅😅

More so, Cornelboy is a she.
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by Emusan(m): 11:12am On Dec 08, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ when i was serving one of our boss looked into my eyes and said:

"You have something unique that i still can't figure out"

Well Jehovah's Witnesses figured it out and i will always thank them for helping me to discover myself! smiley
The only unique thing in you is the ability to lie against God, His word and Holy Spirit with bold face without remorse.

because how on earth can someone claimed few weeks ago that the act of GENEROSITY done by the Apostles is EVIL, WRONG & not from Jesus Christ. Only to turn around now to agree that, it's good and what it's needed to be part of BORN AGAIN Christians and still think it's making sense or telling the truth?

Well, Satan will never see anything wrong with his actions, that's why he is self deluded and full of proud of himself. cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: What Does It Mean To Know God? John 17.3 by cornelboy(f): 11:13am On Dec 08, 2023
oteneaaron:
What knowledge?

What wisdom?

Your pride is nauseating.

😅😅😅

More so, Cornelboy is a she.
Lol Mr max and I have spoken on the phone. He knows what my gender is lol 😂😂
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