Proudgorgeousga:
a fetus is same as a human but in the case of complications during delivery or high risk pregnancy the mother's life is more precious

But once the baby is born and their is famine war or danger the babies are prioritized because they are more fragile and innocent and precious. they get attention 1st

why

The mothers life is not more precious. Often times the choice is made FOR the mother. However A TRUE MOTHER would love the product of her loins and would fight with her own life to protect her/him.

A true mother would lay down her own life for her child in order to give her child a fighting chance.

Are you a true mother or just a baby factory?

An uncouth rude fraudster keeps looking for attention.

Proudgorgeousga:
An uncouth rude fraudster keeps looking for attention.

As a very polite fellow I would keep quoting you directly in reference to your comments.

Can you point out one member of your extended family and your entire generation that I have defrauded? I think delusion has eaten up the better part of your brain which is why as a woman you see yourself as a baby factory and a fetus as a parasite.

Do a sex change if womanhood is abhorrent to you

after all is said and done "Pro Choice" would carry the day and rightly so

No mother should be forced to have a baby she does not want

Yes, we have contraceptives but we all know most eg condoms they aren't 100% effective and accidents do happen

I want every child born to this world to be wanted and cherished by their parents or at least its mother

SAMUEL liar EKWUEME stop quoting me is it by force? haba

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Chai delusion and madness mixed together in equal ratio

Who is Samuel? Is that the name you are rechristening me with oh ye baby factory.

Labelling a total stranger as another is beyond stupid.

Do not think your madness would make you dodge my question o

Why would you a supposed woman see yourself as a baby factory and a fetus as a parasite?

Wouldn't a sex change be better for you? In your mad state would that be a bad option?

Proudgorgeousga you should know (just in case you haven't heard) that I thrive in situations like this.

You can ask hopefullandlord.

When people are nice I reciprocate but when they stupidly begin to talk nasty I first ask that they slow their roll but when they insist I reciprocate but in unimaginable doses.

You would do well to heed this advice.

johnydon22:


Murder can be quantified through several points and moral directives, cultural, religious or political (so called legal)

and for clarity sake can you produce a legal definition of "HUMAN BEING" with credible link there be, i will like to read on that.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/1/8
This is American law.
As you can see, the fetus has to be born and alive to be considered a human. I couldn't find anything on Nigerian law

Oh at the very conception. it's a life circle and that is the beginning of a homo sapiens.

I disagree with you on this. To be a homo sapien is a process which terminates at being born. Tadpoles are not called frogs, they'll end up becoming frogs. But at that point in time, they're tadpoles, not frogs.

Not making more than was required in the first place.

That's not an option, excess has to be made because there's no saying how many times you try before the embryo takes, so a lot has to be made. And whatever is left behind is subsequently destroyed.

Maybe during world war 2 German scientists were right after all to use kids for medical research, after all such research could also have medical implications.

We are talking about a collection of cells here without rights, can't be compared to full blown humans with rights.

butterflyl1on:


So the fetus are the guinea pigs? The pregnant women are unknowingly being used as guinea pigs right? They are encouraged to kill what they term as defective and retain the whole.

I thought evolution was meant to be a continues process still? Who says the allegedly defective fetuses are not evolution still ongoing? Random mutations are supposed to aid evolution so why are we not allowing this randomness to continue? Why kill the mutated fetuses?

The embryo. Not the fetus. Big difference. The woman is not a guinea pig, everything is done in the lab using techniques like IVF. Nobody is killing any defective anything in what I wrote.

This one that you're harping on kill kill, what in write up suggested that?

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Are you done?

You can now answer my question. The reason why I am still being nice is because I am not your Samuel so will regard your comment as delusional and not directed at me.

However the moment you mistakenly or deliberately direct your comment at me insultingly the aftermath would be different.

You can now answer my question

CatfishBilly:

The embryo. Not the fetus. Big difference. The woman is not a guinea pig, everything is done in the lab using techniques like IVF. Nobody is killing any defective anything in what I wrote.

This one that you're harping on kill kill, what in write up suggested that?

If you could choose, would you have asked that you be aborted Since all you see yourself to be as a fetus is a lump of cells?

The lying motherfuckering pig fucker thinks his tricks is not evident to all

SAMUEL EKWUEME go return the money you stole you foolish hypocrite full of insults.

butterflyl1on:


The mothers life is not more precious. Often times the choice is made FOR the mother. However A TRUE MOTHER would love the product of her loins and would fight with her own life to protect her/him.

A true mother would lay down her own life for her child in order to give her child a fighting chance.

Are you a true mother or just a baby factory?

A true mother? Scotsman fallacy?

Why should a mother die for an unborn baby? What if she already has children. She should die and leave the other children abi?


Think before you talk.

JackBizzle:



A true mother? Scotsman fallacy?

Why should a mother die for an unborn baby? What if she already has children. She should die and leave the other children abi?


Think before you talk.

Jumbo dumbo

My guy how far?

Would you have approved if your mother had aborted you even with the half brain you have?

butterflyl1on:
Proudgorgeousga you should know (just in case you haven't heard) that I thrive in situations like this.

You can ask hopefullandlord.

When people are nice I reciprocate but when they stupidly begin to talk nasty I first ask that they slow their roll but when they insist I reciprocate but in unimaginable doses.

You would do well to heed this advice.

You that was destroyed several times on this thread?

butterflyl1on:


If you could choose, would you have asked that you be aborted Since all you see yourself to be as a fetus is a lump of cells?

How does this further this discourse? What bearing does it have on the validity of an argument?


I'll answer. If my parents didn't want me and didn't have the financial, emotional and social capacity to take care of me, I'll pick abortion in a heartbeat. I no come this world come suffer.

CatfishBilly:

How does this further this discourse? What bearing does it have on the validity of an argument?


I'll answer. If my parents didn't want me and didn't have the financial, emotional and social capacity to take care of me, I'll pick abortion in a heartbeat. I no come this world come suffer.

Your opinion and I believe others would have preferred the suffering to the death.

butterflyl1on:


Jumbo dumbo

My guy how far?

Would you have approved if your mother had aborted you even with the half brain you have?

Omo. No need to bring my mum into this.

You could have dodged my rebuttal with less guile.

JackBizzle:


You that was destroyed several times on this thread?

By who? You?

JackBizzle:



Omo. No need to bring my mum into this.

You could have dodged my rebuttal with less guile.

You made no rebuttal. Just your usual jumbo dumbo talk as I am used to

Is it me or has butterflylying become dumber?

His lies just aint working anymore

CatfishBilly:

How does this further this discourse? What bearing does it have on the validity of an argument?


I'll answer. If my parents didn't want me and didn't have the financial, emotional and social capacity to take care of me, I'll pick abortion in a heartbeat. I no come this world come suffer.

nice one

butterflyl1on:


Your opinion and I believe others would have preferred the suffering to the death.

See why I said the question offers nothing to the discussion?

JackBizzle:
Is it me or has butterflylying become dumber?

His lies just aint working anymore

Jumbo dumbo remember I told you that you carry a derailing component. You have come now and are trying to derail this thread with your usual senseless talk. Since you have no sensible thing to contribute but just want to make senseless comments then be quiet. To type no be by force na

butterflyl1on:


Jumbo dumbo remember I told you that you carry a derailing component. You have come now and are trying to derail this thread with your usual senseless talk. Since you have no sensible thing to contribute but just want to make senseless comments then be quiet. To type no be by force na

I know your medicine. When you start your folly, i give you a double dosage.


Ogbeni, address my rebuttal.....

JackBizzle:



A true mother? Scotsman fallacy?

Why should a mother die for an unborn baby? What if she already has children. She should die and leave the other children abi?


Think before you talk.

CatfishBilly:

See why I said the question offers nothing to the discussion?

Oh it does. I wanted to get YOUR opinion which I did.

Your opinion cannot be used to represent the opinion of other fetuses. You said you would rather die than suffer. (which I find rather lame and weak as an excuse)

Others would rather suffer than die. So are you saying that the ones who would rather suffer are wrong to have such choices simply because you disagree with it or they are not even entitled to such a choice.

butterflyl1on:


Oh it does. I wanted to get YOUR opinion which I did.

Your opinion cannot be used to represent the opinion of other fetuses. You said you would rather die than suffer. (which I find rather lame and weak as an excuse)

Others would rather suffer than die. So are you saying that the ones who would rather suffer are wrong to have such choices simply because you disagree with it or they are not even entitled to such a choice.

Why suffer and die when you will still die at the end?

Those that chose to suffer are not wrong or immoral, they are just being less pragmatic about their situation

JackBizzle:



I know your medicine. When you start your folly, i give you a double dosage.


Ogbeni, address my rebuttal.....

Even mother hens harbour an overly protective instinct and would rather die than let you harm their chicks.

I repeat true mothers would rather die than let harm or death come to their children.

Google is your friend. You can browse it and see how mothers have laid down their lives for their children be they fetuses or born.

JackBizzle:



Why suffer and die when you will still die at the end?

Those that chose to suffer are not wrong or immoral, they are just being less pragmatic about their situation

Still your opinion. They believe in their suffering they still have hope. They believe in their suffering they still are better than the dead.

They believe that even though death comes to all eventually they would still live for a good while before that happens. A choice they are entitled to have and you know it.

butterflyl1on:


Even mother hens harbour an overly protective instinct and would rather die than let you harm their chicks.

I repeat true mothers would rather die than let harm or death come to their children.

Google is your friend. You can browse it and see how mothers have laid down their lives for their children be they fetuses or born.

Mother rats eat the weak/deformed amongst their children. So your hen analogy that tries to make the altruist choice of dying for an unborn child natural is false.


We are talking about the unborn here and we know that you are lying.


As a husban, you would tell your wife to die for a feotus if there are complications? When there are other children she can give birtgh to or adopt?