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Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by butterflyl1on: 9:24am On Oct 01, 2017 |
adepeter2027: Let me explain what your ignorance is not aware of. Abortion is never natural. The word abortion is often used to mean only induced abortions. An abortion that occurs spontaneously is known as a miscarriage. There is a difference! Abortions are deliberate. Miscarriages are not. Now that i have helped in upgrading your knowledge you can edit your ignorant comment. Cc deicide |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by Deicide: 9:28am On Oct 01, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:For in mind e don make sense
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Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by butterflyl1on: 9:32am On Oct 01, 2017 |
Deicide: If you can understand my nuggets of knowledge which I just shared with you then you would know why abortion is wrong and why Felix and myself are against it. Wilful acts of evil are wrong. Any premeditated evil is wrong. Planning to kill someone is as good as already killing the person. Planning to lie is as good as lying already. Planning to flush out a fetus is as good as the act being done already. If the plan is wrong then the act is wrong. |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by adepeter2027(m): 9:33am On Oct 01, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:Was I d person who said abortion is natural? BTW when serious medical complications arise where the fetus is not developing well or some parts/organs (absence of limbs, absence of eyes etc) are missing via UlTra-Scan and abortion is done, what will you call that? A sin? A product of I.D? |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by Deicide: 9:34am On Oct 01, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:Of course am the one that is in support of abortion cause am an Unbeliever we don't have morality |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by adepeter2027(m): 9:35am On Oct 01, 2017 |
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Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by Humanistme: 9:46am On Oct 01, 2017 |
Deicide: Miscarriage, also known as spontaneous abortion and pregnancy loss, is the natural death of an embryo or fetus before it is able to survive independently. Some use the cutoff of 20 weeks of gestation, after which fetal death is known as a stillbirth. Risk factors · Diagnosis · Prevention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage in his coacroach mind mtseew. as if spontaneous abortion is not the term doctors use. 1 Like |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by Deicide: 9:50am On Oct 01, 2017 |
Humanistme:Don't blame butterflypig he forgot to use google that's why, since that's what he normally does that's where his knowledge comes from Empty Brain |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by butterflyl1on: 9:51am On Oct 01, 2017 |
adepeter2027: Is there no records of people who were born without these body parts who did not end up leading successful and eventful lives? If there are, Who then decides if the ones with the same conditions seen via ultrascan would not also lead eventful and successful lives? At what point is a fetus alive? At what point is a fetus human? Those should be the kind of questions you should be asking. |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by adepeter2027(m): 9:55am On Oct 01, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:Let's not deviate from the OP. I don't go lengthy anymore in discussions or arguments THANK YOU |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by butterflyl1on: 9:56am On Oct 01, 2017 |
Humanistme: When doctors call it spontaneous abortion they refer to a miscarriage. The word SPONTANEOUS shows it is a miscarriage. However wherever you see ABORTION alone being used it means INDUCED! Let me make it simpler for you below spontaneous adjective performed or occurring as a result of a sudden impulse or inclination and without premeditation or external stimulus miscarriage noun the spontaneous or unplanned expulsion of a fetus from the womb before it is able to survive independently. Do you see why spontaneous is used to describe a miscarriage? The word spontaneous is simply a description of the kind of abortion and spontaneous being used depicts a miscarriage. Thank me later |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by Humanistme: 10:00am On Oct 01, 2017 |
butterflyl1on: bla bla bla it is a kind of abortion that's the the point. abortion is either spontaneous or induced. argue with your God. bye. |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by butterflyl1on: 10:05am On Oct 01, 2017 |
Humanistme: Chai A miscarriage is not an abortion. Spontaneous means sudden. abortion noun the deliberate termination of a human pregnancy, most often performed during the first 28 weeks miscarriage noun the spontaneous or unplanned expulsion of a fetus from the womb before it is able to survive independently. Do you see the difference? Spontaneous is what shows that the termination was unplanned. Abortion simply means TERMINATION. spontaneous termination is the word so I understand your ignorance due to the word ABORTION being used. It's simply a lack of understanding on your part. |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by wirinet(m): 11:42am On Oct 01, 2017 |
butterflyl1on: You guys love to appeal to emotional blackmail to impose your moral sensibilities on others. Murdering a fetus is an oxymoron, murder refers only to a person, a human being. Cells are not referred to as a person, and definitely a sperm and ovum merging together cannot be said to be a person. I could not have been aborted because my patents wanted me badly. They went to great lengths with expenses to conceive me. I can say I never lack love. A woman should never be forced to birth a child she does not want. Abortion has not reduced the world population, in fact it is increasing in geometric proportions. 6 Likes |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by wirinet(m): 11:51am On Oct 01, 2017 |
butterflyl1on: Was it you or your moral or religious organization that ensured that people born without complete body parts led meaningful lives? It was the parents, so the decision to have or not have the baby should rest squarely on those responsible for the survival and upkeep of the baby. The fetus becomes alive the moment it is conceived. A fetus becomes human the moment it can live independent of its mother. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by petergriffin: 12:38pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
Humanistme:intentional abortion is bad but if it happens beyond our control that is totally different |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by petergriffin: 12:39pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
adepeter2027:what if i say he doesnt exist? |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by McSterling(m): 12:43pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
Deicide:What I had in mind actually is a case where it happened by accident to perhaps a married couple. I don't in anyway support careless sex and frequent abortions. That won't be good for the woman too. |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by McSterling(m): 12:45pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
Daeylar:Interesting input. I don't support indiscriminate or frequent abortions either. |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by Humanistme: 1:04pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
petergriffin: well that is debatable as evident in this thread. |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by McSterling(m): 1:09pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
wolesmile:Thanks for your input. |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by McSterling(m): 1:14pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
chemystery:I'd like to know why you think abortion is morally wrong. |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by butterflyl1on: 1:23pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
wirinet: Your worldview is speaking and mine is as well. Once a fetus is alive it is human! If a fetus has the same DNA as a full grown human then who can say it is not human? You? Don't make me laugh please |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by butterflyl1on: 1:25pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
wirinet: You atheists say the dumbest things and still pat yourselves on the back after saying it. Attached is the image of a fetal development and a fetus at 40 weeks. Perhaps you did not know that a fetus is called a fetus for as long as it is in the womb from 12 to 40 weeks it is called a fetus. Looking at those pictures are they cells?
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Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by adepeter2027(m): 1:29pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:I guess you're missing the message he's tryna pass No quote me o-o. But no vex say I quote you |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by butterflyl1on: 1:32pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
adepeter2027: He is passing no message. All he says is that the fetus is not human so murder cannot be applied to it when it is aborted. So I had to show him via images what a fetus really looks like because it is obvious that it is his ignorance and shallow sense of reasoning that is talking. |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by adepeter2027(m): 1:35pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:Na una sabi BTW, shebi I said you shouldn't quote me. |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by butterflyl1on: 1:36pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
adepeter2027: Arewa miss road why should I not quote you? You dey mad? |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by adepeter2027(m): 1:38pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by butterflyl1on: 1:41pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
adepeter2027: You and me no serious |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by adepeter2027(m): 1:45pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:Gbam You no lie |
Re: Humanists And Freethinkers: What Are Your Thoughts On Abortion? by budaatum: 1:53pm On Oct 01, 2017 |
butterflyl1on:Once a fetus is alive it is human? So it can live on its own, outside my body? Or am 2 people in one body? If it is human in its own right then let it dwell outside my body in its own right. While it's in my body it's under my jurisdiction and killing it is no, different to cutting off my right hand. What's it to do with you, I laugh? Thankfully, wiser people have resolved that my above thinking is time limited. What's to stop me aborting just one day before you're due to be born, would be the appropriate retort. 1 Like |
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