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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by Martin0(m): 8:41pm On Nov 02, 2017
AHCB:
By who? I sure know it's not you.

Yep, that's why you marry your dogs, fvck yourselves and accept stolen from us. (I'm sure you know it's a crime to accept stolen money in your country?)

Free thought my ass! You guys are thieves. grin

Jeeezzzz
Sorry (drinks pls)
Ma Godness u are really damm good man..(In confusing pple)
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by sirfee(m): 8:41pm On Nov 02, 2017
iamJ:

I support it bro cool even did a thread abt it self


Wow,I'm surprised,you've said it all,many people don't really know the meaning of feminism. African feminists should emulate leaders like Angelic kidjo,Chimanda etc
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by NightHound(m): 8:42pm On Nov 02, 2017
ToyinDipo:

Very elaborate, can you share the title of the text, I will like to read it.


It's mine. I'll take your suspicion as a compliment
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by Rukkydelta(f): 8:47pm On Nov 02, 2017
I'm not sexist neither I'm a feminist
But I stand against the oppression of females
And I encourage and love seeing women growing up career wise,making their own money without fear and by overcoming any kind of limitations they encounter

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by Nobody: 8:48pm On Nov 02, 2017
NightHound:



'Feminism' should rather be replaced with 'Humanism' instead of 'Gender Equality.' That one is DoA since we recognize that there are marked differences between the sexes. Humanism, on the other hand, focuses on the one similarity that really matters when discussing fundamental rights. And since the essence of Feminism is to acknowledge the full humanness of women by extending all fundamental human rights (that are available to men) to women as well, humanism just makes the most sense.

As you've pointed out, our inequalities as human beings go far beyond gender. There's race, height, weight, complexion, IQ, and all that. But we don't apportion rights to people by considering any of these differences; even when certain physical attributes can have a huge bearing on the persons performance. In the end, what matters is that we are all human beings. And as human beings, we should have human rights. Not men's rights and women's rights. That's really all there is to equal rights and gender equality.

I like what you said about letting nature take its course. But the status quo does not do that. Male privilege is like federal character or affirmative action - hugely flawed. It does not allow people achieve based on the merit of their abilities. And do men really need a leg-up in that sense? Male excellence cannot be presumed, it has to be tested and proven just like female capabilities should be. Human beings should be born with equal value to society; they should enjoy opportunities available to them without any unnatural discrimination; and they should establish their ultimate relevance based on their individual abilities. It's not always about sparring in a ring, sometimes, the battles are mental.

You imply that feminism has no place in Nigeria. I disagree. People talk about all kinds of flavours of feminism: socialist, radical, liberal, and even (I heard today) depressed feminism. I consider this nonsense. It's an unnecessary multiplication of related dogmas that only ends up creating confusion and stifling the movement. I believe that feminism is organic; it grows out of the soil. It's reactionary just like any other movement that pushes back oppression. If women aren't oppressed, they won't react to oppression (Newton's third law). And the kind of reactions will differ across the globe. Feminism cultured by Nigerian misogyny is different from feminism cultured by Arab, or American misogyny. The manifestos are drawn up accordingly. But at the root of it all is that women want to thrive to their full potential in an environment without unjust influence. And in our own context, unjust influence would include (but is not limited to) things like shaming (or stigmatizing) women for some of their choices even when these choices are perfectly legal; and creating double standards of judgement for moral conduct. These things aren't natural, they're impositions.
Superb. THIS IS IT. The one that solves it---the one that answers it. NightHound, you just sealed it with this.

You is getting mine seal of approval.

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by pocohantas(f): 8:50pm On Nov 02, 2017
NightHound:



'Feminism' should rather be replaced with 'Humanism' instead of 'Gender Equality.' That one is DoA since we recognize that there are marked differences between the sexes. Humanism, on the other hand, focuses on the one similarity that really matters when discussing fundamental rights. And since the essence of Feminism is to acknowledge the full humanness of women by extending all fundamental human rights (that are available to men) to women as well, humanism just makes the most sense.

As you've pointed out, our inequalities as human beings go far beyond gender. There's race, height, weight, complexion, IQ, and all that. But we don't apportion rights to people by considering any of these differences; even when certain physical attributes can have a huge bearing on the persons performance. In the end, what matters is that we are all human beings. And as human beings, we should have human rights. Not men's rights and women's rights. That's really all there is to equal rights and gender equality.

I like what you said about letting nature take its course. But the status quo does not do that. Male privilege is like federal character or affirmative action - hugely flawed. It does not allow people achieve based on the merit of their abilities. And do men really need a leg-up in that sense? Male excellence cannot be presumed, it has to be tested and proven just like female capabilities should be. Human beings should be born with equal value to society; they should enjoy opportunities available to them without any unnatural discrimination; and they should establish their ultimate relevance based on their individual abilities. It's not always about sparring in a ring, sometimes, the battles are mental.

You imply that feminism has no place in Nigeria. I disagree. People talk about all kinds of flavours of feminism: socialist, radical, liberal, and even (I heard today) depressed feminism. I consider this nonsense. It's an unnecessary multiplication of related dogmas that only ends up creating confusion and stifling the movement. I believe that feminism is organic; it grows out of the soil. It's reactionary just like any other movement that pushes back oppression. If women aren't oppressed, they won't react to oppression (Newton's third law). And the kind of reactions will differ across the globe. Feminism cultured by Nigerian misogyny is different from feminism cultured by Arab, or American misogyny. The manifestos are drawn up accordingly. But at the root of it all is that women want to thrive to their full potential in an environment without unjust influence. And in our own context, unjust influence would include (but is not limited to) things like shaming (or stigmatizing) women for some of their choices even when these choices are perfectly legal; and creating double standards of judgement for moral conduct. These things aren't natural, they're impositions.

Nighthound!!!!!!? shocked

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by Nobody: 8:52pm On Nov 02, 2017
Rukkydelta:
I'm not sexist neither I'm a feminist
But I stand against the oppression of females
And I encourage and love seeing women growing up career wise,making their own money without fear and by overcoming any kind of limitations they encounter
So who asked you?
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by ibkayee(f): 8:53pm On Nov 02, 2017
NightHound:



'Feminism' should rather be replaced with 'Humanism' instead of 'Gender Equality.' That one is DoA since we recognize that there are marked differences between the sexes. Humanism, on the other hand, focuses on the one similarity that really matters when discussing fundamental rights. And since the essence of Feminism is to acknowledge the full humanness of women by extending all fundamental human rights (that are available to men) to women as well, humanism just makes the most sense.

As you've pointed out, our inequalities as human beings go far beyond gender. There's race, height, weight, complexion, IQ, and all that. But we don't apportion rights to people by considering any of these differences; even when certain physical attributes can have a huge bearing on the persons performance. In the end, what matters is that we are all human beings. And as human beings, we should have human rights. Not men's rights and women's rights. That's really all there is to equal rights and gender equality.

I like what you said about letting nature take its course. But the status quo does not do that. Male privilege is like federal character or affirmative action - hugely flawed. It does not allow people achieve based on the merit of their abilities. And do men really need a leg-up in that sense? Male excellence cannot be presumed, it has to be tested and proven just like female capabilities should be. Human beings should be born with equal value to society; they should enjoy opportunities available to them without any unnatural discrimination; and they should establish their ultimate relevance based on their individual abilities. It's not always about sparring in a ring, sometimes, the battles are mental.

You imply that feminism has no place in Nigeria. I disagree. People talk about all kinds of flavours of feminism: socialist, radical, liberal, and even (I heard today) depressed feminism. I consider this nonsense. It's an unnecessary multiplication of related dogmas that only ends up creating confusion and stifling the movement. I believe that feminism is organic; it grows out of the soil. It's reactionary just like any other movement that pushes back oppression. If women aren't oppressed, they won't react to oppression (Newton's third law). And the kind of reactions will differ across the globe. Feminism cultured by Nigerian misogyny is different from feminism cultured by Arab, or American misogyny. The manifestos are drawn up accordingly. But at the root of it all is that women want to thrive to their full potential in an environment without unjust influence. And in our own context, unjust influence would include (but is not limited to) things like shaming (or stigmatizing) women for some of their choices even when these choices are perfectly legal; and creating double standards of judgement for moral conduct. These things aren't natural, they're impositions.
Spot on. Particularly the bolded, women definitely aren't perfect, but it tickles me when they deny that there is such a thing as male privilege lol

See their mouths like 'eQuAl oPPorTUniTiEs' lol

[img]https://serving./85650757a62d54a3b1db0ea93c1928d814159973185baca611fb21af4a75c52e65643d90.jpg[/img]

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by Nobody: 8:53pm On Nov 02, 2017
NightHound:



'Feminism' should rather be replaced with 'Humanism' instead of 'Gender Equality.' That one is DoA since we recognize that there are marked differences between the sexes. Humanism, on the other hand, focuses on the one similarity that really matters when discussing fundamental rights. And since the essence of Feminism is to acknowledge the full humanness of women by extending all fundamental human rights (that are available to men) to women as well, humanism just makes the most sense.

As you've pointed out, our inequalities as human beings go far beyond gender. There's race, height, weight, complexion, IQ, and all that. But we don't apportion rights to people by considering any of these differences; even when certain physical attributes can have a huge bearing on the persons performance. In the end, what matters is that we are all human beings. And as human beings, we should have human rights. Not men's rights and women's rights. That's really all there is to equal rights and gender equality.

I like what you said about letting nature take its course. But the status quo does not do that. Male privilege is like federal character or affirmative action - hugely flawed. It does not allow people achieve based on the merit of their abilities. And do men really need a leg-up in that sense? Male excellence cannot be presumed, it has to be tested and proven just like female capabilities should be. Human beings should be born with equal value to society; they should enjoy opportunities available to them without any unnatural discrimination; and they should establish their ultimate relevance based on their individual abilities. It's not always about sparring in a ring, sometimes, the battles are mental.

You imply that feminism has no place in Nigeria. I disagree. People talk about all kinds of flavours of feminism: socialist, radical, liberal, and even (I heard today) depressed feminism. I consider this nonsense. It's an unnecessary multiplication of related dogmas that only ends up creating confusion and stifling the movement. I believe that feminism is organic; it grows out of the soil. It's reactionary just like any other movement that pushes back oppression. If women aren't oppressed, they won't react to oppression (Newton's third law). And the kind of reactions will differ across the globe. Feminism cultured by Nigerian misogyny is different from feminism cultured by Arab, or American misogyny. The manifestos are drawn up accordingly. But at the root of it all is that women want to thrive to their full potential in an environment without unjust influence. And in our own context, unjust influence would include (but is not limited to) things like shaming (or stigmatizing) women for some of their choices even when these choices are perfectly legal; and creating double standards of judgement for moral conduct. These things aren't natural, they're impositions.
Too much wisdom in one post! cheesy

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by Nobody: 8:54pm On Nov 02, 2017
Daeylar:


Thought provoking.

IamiKayJayCee come and see this.

Although shey you see what I'm saying? He says gender equality is dead on arrival that we should move to humanism, you see say we get problem? grin
No, he ended their confusion. That's the FINAL word. There's no where to shift to again. The "STATEMENT" I mentioned the other time, he just provided me with - or reminded me of - the right word for it --- HUMANISM.

That's the END OF THE LINE. There's NOTHING after humanism.

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by Nobody: 8:54pm On Nov 02, 2017
ibkayee:

Spot on. Particularly the bolded, women definitely aren't perfect, but it tickles me when they deny that there is such a thing as male privilege lol

See their mouth like 'eQuAl oPPorTUniTiEs' lol

[img]https://serving./85650757a62d54a3b1db0ea93c1928d814159973185baca611fb21af4a75c52e65643d90.jpg[/img]

You are too intelligent for my liking, I can't deal

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by NightHound(m): 8:55pm On Nov 02, 2017
IamiKayJayCee:
Superb. THIS IS IT. The one that solves it---the one that answers it. NightHound, you just sealed it with this.

You is getting mine seal of approval.


cheesy. Thanks, bro.
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by makydebbie(f): 8:57pm On Nov 02, 2017
AHCB:
Now we're getting somewhere.

I'm not saying self love is bad, I'm saying too much of it is bad. That my dear is what the OP is about. I even mentioned it here, she loves herself so much to the point of having issues with her boyfriend and not even bothering to even talk things out with him. Like she can't be bothered, she loves herself so much not to give a damn. She hates confrontation. That's what I was trying to point out.

My dear, too much of everything is bad. When one go about screaming about self love, it gets to ones head. Hubris, selfishness and greed comes in.

I love you that's why I replied your mention, now if I love myself too much why should I be bothered about replying your mention?

Hope you get my drift, babe? grin
If you say so.
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by Daeylar(f): 8:58pm On Nov 02, 2017
IamiKayJayCee:
No, he ended their confusion. That's the FINAL word. There's no where to shift to again. The "STATEMENT" I mentioned the other time, he just provided me with - or reminded me of - the right word for it --- HUMANISM.

That's the END OF THE LINE. There's NOTHING after humanism.

Humanism is what you were trying to define? Be right back, don't quote this, will be back with my final opinion
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by BiafranBushBoy: 8:58pm On Nov 02, 2017
pocohantas:


Nighthound!!!!!!? shocked


Hahahahaha hahahahaha...

The post gave you orgasm right??

Hahahaha... Oh Lord!! Chai...
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by AHCB: 9:00pm On Nov 02, 2017
I wonder if there's any such thing as 'men rights' in the constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria. Of course, there's no such thing. Trust me, I know cos I have a copy.

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by BiafranBushBoy: 9:00pm On Nov 02, 2017
trustyshoess:

Too much wisdom in one post! cheesy

Hahahahaha... Chai..

Lol...
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by Nobody: 9:00pm On Nov 02, 2017
pocohantas:



LOL. You are kinda right, seems you're familiar with all the baboons. But it wasn't that one, it was one of his followers. Who will do anything to twist a post, same thing they have done to feminism grin grin
Lol. I know them quite well. I identify the baboons that have attacked me in the past and mark them in case of future encounter. One needs to be conscious of threats---if you're too busy smelling the flowers, you're not long for this world. So, I'm always brandishing my sword in case I meet the animals again. grin

So, it was one of his dogs. They're still relatives. No surprise there. grin
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by Doctormarvin(m): 9:00pm On Nov 02, 2017
It is settled..Equality for everybody!
It shouldn't end here though,advocate everywhere!...preach it, sing it and scream it

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by FTrebirth(m): 9:01pm On Nov 02, 2017
Rukkydelta:
I'm not sexist neither I'm a feminist
But I stand against the oppression of females
And I encourage and love seeing women growing up career wise,making their own money without fear and by overcoming any kind of limitations they encounter

very good!

encourage them to aspire higher and be useful to themselves first before the society, not perching on social media and crying wolf when nobody is attacking their sheep.
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by sirfee(m): 9:02pm On Nov 02, 2017
pocohantas:


Emasculation of dicks...
Btw, I noticed they can't accuse guys in support of feminism of being heartbroken, ugly, old or used and dumped. So, they wait for females to pick on with those lines lipsrsealed

Most of them know the truth but they chose the wrong lane just because of their selfish interests and egos.You and I know that discrimination and domination is inhumane.


Between......frogs are good for your health,try it and thank me later(lol).
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by AHCB: 9:02pm On Nov 02, 2017
makydebbie:
If you say so.
I say so.
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by ToyinDipo(m): 9:02pm On Nov 02, 2017
NightHound:



It's mine. I'll take your suspicion as a compliment
Haha, good one bro.
Most 'feminists' that I see here seem to attend same class, however it appears the syllabus keeps changing every now and then, maybe they are being reactive though.

That asides, you speak in a context, where 'feminism' can be seen as a good cause, not what is being championed generally on NL.
I myself as a person, I value fairness over any thing, no matter the class, age, race, tribe, sex... because a man should do unto others, what he expects in return.

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by BiafranBushBoy: 9:03pm On Nov 02, 2017
NightHound:



It's mine. I'll take your suspicion as a compliment

Lol... You don turn feminist advocate.

Them pocohantas and trustyshoes go soon make you GMD

Feminist company limited...

If the pay is good, I don't mind joining ooo...

I go even write, come publish am for National dailies...

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by iamJ(m): 9:04pm On Nov 02, 2017
sirfee:
Wow,I'm surprised,you've said it all,many people don't really know the meaning of feminism. African feminists should emulate leaders like Angelic kidjo,Chimanda etc
when its depression that makes them feminist what do you expect?

A real feminist will not be here, talking morning till night, she will be improving her life, so men can respect her and enable her break barriers

Feminism is not a bad tin, its the uneducated feminist that misunderstand its goal

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by ToyinDipo(m): 9:05pm On Nov 02, 2017
ibkayee:

Spot on. Particularly the bolded, women definitely aren't perfect, but it tickles me when they deny that there is such a thing as male privilege lol

See their mouths like 'eQuAl oPPorTUniTiEs' lol

[img]https://serving./85650757a62d54a3b1db0ea93c1928d814159973185baca611fb21af4a75c52e65643d90.jpg[/img]

Now you are happy abi grin
Thank God for him cheesy
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by sirfee(m): 9:05pm On Nov 02, 2017
IamiKayJayCee:
No, he ended their confusion. That's the FINAL word. There's no where to shift to again. The "STATEMENT" I mentioned the other time, he just provided me with - or reminded me of - the right word for it --- HUMANISM.

That's the END OF THE LINE. There's NOTHING after humanism.
Case closed,there is nothing after humanism.
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by AHCB: 9:07pm On Nov 02, 2017
FTrebirth:


very good!

encourage them to aspire higher and be useful to themselves first before the society, not perching on social media and crying wolf when nobody is attacking their sheep.
Don't mind them. All most of them know is to sound tough on social media. Meet them in real life and you'd be amaze at how timid they are.
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by BiafranBushBoy: 9:08pm On Nov 02, 2017
FTrebirth:


very good!

encourage them to aspire higher and be useful to themselves first before the society, not perching on social media and crying wolf when nobody is attacking their sheep.

Lol... I became HOD IT sales, I fired all the lazy girls that wanted preferential treatment, but yet claimed equal rights...

So I read all these write ups and just laugh...
Re: I Am A Feminist!! by Daeylar(f): 9:09pm On Nov 02, 2017
IamiKayJayCee:
No, he ended their confusion. That's the FINAL word. There's no where to shift to again. The "STATEMENT" I mentioned the other time, he just provided me with - or reminded me of - the right word for it --- HUMANISM.

That's the END OF THE LINE. There's NOTHING after humanism.

All right I got the connection now, what you wrote in your statement is the same as his only that yours is just like the definition while his he went in and expounded on the topic.
I feel like we got something, from feminism to gender equality to humanism. We found one they won't complain about.
At least, they won't find fault with this. You did good, your definition was perfect




Nighthound, once again perfection. *insert clapping gif*

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by pocohantas(f): 9:10pm On Nov 02, 2017
sirfee:
Most of them know the truth but they chose the wrong lane just because of their selfish interests and egos.You and I know that discrimination and domination is inhumane.


Between......frogs are good for your health,try it and thank me later(lol).

Well, do we blame them?
Y'know this should be all about mutual respect, equal everything...but at a point, it began to look like respect for women. Maybe because women seem to be more at the receiving end.

Night hound has settled it for us, humanism it is... All are equal and important to the other...grin

Smh...Good for your own health too angry

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Re: I Am A Feminist!! by Nobody: 9:11pm On Nov 02, 2017
Daeylar:


Chaii grin grin grin grin

Gosh, if dem say make you define fairness and equal standard now ?? grin grin how you want take do that one?

They will now tell you the bible standard and quote bible for you that the bible didn't make anybody equal grin grin

It's when it comes to equality that the bible becomes their favourite book, if it's fornication now and fucking before marriage, or even having side chick in and oyt of marriage, no one will remember that there is anything like bible. grin grin


I'm just laughing anyhow here grin

Lol, don't mind me jor.
Lol. Then the direction of the discussion becomes CLEAR and SIMPLE. It's a fact that all Abrahamic religions are patriarchal and sexist, and they're mostly the basis of the arguments against the morality and legitimacy of the feminist agenda, so it would be easy to spell it out for them that I do not accept their archaic holy books as an authority, since I do not believe in the divine, and I am 100 percent certain that these books are MAN MADE. We can go on from there to consider the legitimacy of their opposition to feminism, their ACTUAL REASONS for it, and obliterate every basis of it.

They believe in FIXED traditions and customs, whereas I have little regard for them, believe that they can be changed, and that they have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to impose these stupid, man-made nonsensical traditions on those who reject them.

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