Seun:

Is it possible that his spine was damaged when he fell down?

A lot if things were possible. That's why jazz is not an option

frank317:
It happened around 7.30 or 8pm.
The area was not well lit.

I had been in abuja for five years
and didn't think it was a dangerous place
hence was not watching out for danger

Were there people at the area before you were assaulted and robbed?

Hmm, in Yoruba parlance, it is said: "ifura ni ogun agba"
Loosely interpreted means: "Vigilance and/or guardedness is the jazz elders use"

When will people learn that Karma, might take her time but she never forgets?

MuttleyLaff:
Were there people at the area before you were assaulted and robbed?

Hmm, in Yoruba parlance, it is said: "ifura ni ogun agba"
Loosely interpreted means: "Vigilance and/or guardedness is the jazz elders use"

When will people learn that Karma, might take her time but she never forgets?

After I was robbed I started heard stories of terrible things that happened to people in that area.

It was a terrible experience.. Was in abuja last month and still felt my self shiver when ever I cross that area

The place was a bit lonely... One or two person passes me by before I was attacked

luvmijeje:


And they wondered why religion is bigger than science. Religion is more relatable and deals with the everyday issues faced by Nigerians. While science insult and in her arrogance waives everything off as bullshit.

everything is actually bullshit, they are mind games that has been transferred to this generation for time immemorial.

There is juju, but Jesus is greater than juju. There are people who have the knowledge of bending reality, but God pass everybody

MrPresident1:
There is juju, but Jesus is greater than juju. There are people who have the knowledge of bending reality, but God pass everybody

An altered state of the mind will give an illusion of an altered state of reality.

vaxx:
An altered state of the mind will give an illusion of an altered state of reality.

OK na, lol. Even the Bible, which I hold SUPREME in all affairs, tells me that there is sorcery and there is witchcraft.

MrPresident1:


OK na, lol. Even the Bible, which I hold SUPREME in all affairs, tells me that there is sorcery and there is witchcraft.

psychedelics drug can do the work

There is no witchcraft? Lol.

All the atheists are afraid to acknowledge the existence of this supernatural phenomenon.

The reason is that it will automatically discredit their belief.

They struggle with the idea on daily basis and I pity them for this..

Know this:

If there is supernatural, there is an Almighty who sets the rules there.

Witchcraft, sorceries and divination are recorded in the Bible.

I am not here to convince anyone.

Good luck with your belief.

Frank317, when you said something about a lost brain or something similar, I was tempted to jump to defence and kick your ass to kingdom come. Please accept my apology for even thinking it!

luvmijeje:

And they wondered why religion is bigger than science. Religion is more relatable and deals with the everyday issues faced by Nigerians. While science insult and in her arrogance waives everything off as bullshit.

Luvmi, Religion is not 'more relatable', nor does it deal 'with the everyday issues faced by Nigerians'! After morning prayer, everything you deal with has to do with science, from the house you woke up in, the alarm that woke you up, your transport to work, even the clothes you put on! Or when did any of these things come about because of religion?

The only reason religion is bigger than science is because it's easier for people to be stupid than use their brains! If Nigerians did more science, when they say "let there be light", someone would just turn a switch and there would be light! Instead, we dwell in religious darkness, continuously praying for light!

I'm going to assume you haven't done much science!

luvmijeje:


He insisted that they didn't use hard contact on him.

Yet, his leg was broken?

servercodes001:
So,
A man touched by someone he doesn't know and he immediately handed over his money he just collected from the bank, it's the science of the mind for an adult to give his entire money and cry afterwards??

Do you mean people choose to become insane and roam around after someone buried items on their doorstep, why do they become Normal again after it's dugged out and destroyed

I can give you thousands of examples, please tell me whether all this are setups for entertainment or deceit

One happened in my area. These yoruba people call strangers to come and settle a dispute in table tennis they are playing. if the person responds positive to their request, the person doesn't know himself again. And they will tell him to play and bet whatever he has. Even if he can't play tennis, he will agree because he is no longer with his sense. He will lose his phone, money everything he had. One of my friends was telling me this. Until one day I witnessed it first hand. I rejected their advances. In my sight, they charmed a man and collected his phone that looked very expensive from him.(on Sunday). My mouth was wide open. They were threatening me that what I'm I looking at? I threatened to call the police on them. Since then, they limited their operation. But I know it's God that used me to stop their evil practises.

Definitely, witchcraft, charm are real.

MrPRevailer:


One happened in my area. These yoruba people call strangers to come and settle a dispute in table tennis they are playing. if the person responds positive to their request, the person doesn't know himself again. And they will tell him to play and bet whatever he has. Even if he can't play tennis, he will agree because he is no longer with his sense. He will lose his phone, money everything he had. One of my friends was telling me this. Until one day I witnessed it first hand. I rejected their advances. In my sight, they charmed a man and collect a phone that look very expensive from him. They were threatening me that what I'm I looking at? I threatened to call the police on them. Since then, they limited their operation. But I know it's God that used me to stop their evil practises.

Definitely, witchcraft, charm are real.

Of course,
No matter what others say spirits do exist I've once seen a possessed woman, she threw away six men holding her, she was misbehaving and her eyes were truly scary, I was one of the men and the power In her hands wasn't normal, there's no way a woman can be that strong. The windows were strongly banged when she shouted, the windows were outside a 1st floor and no one can get near them, I ran away very scared, I thought about all the occurrences, they're very real and true . that's the very time I believed about spirits

servercodes001:
So,
A man touched by someone he doesn't know and he immediately handed over his money he just collected from the bank, it's the science of the mind for an adult to give his entire money and cry afterwards??

Do you mean people choose to become insane and roam around after someone buried items on their doorstep, why do they become Normal again after it's dugged out and destroyed

I can give you thousands of examples, please tell me whether all this are setups for entertainment or deceit

All what you are trying to point out have an explanation.

frank317:


Yet u cannot compare what science has achieved to what religion has achieved, why so?

Yet you cannot ponder on who/what gave those scientists the wisdom they used in making those seemingly impossible discoveries.

vaxx:
All what you are trying to point out have an explanation.

Why don't you educate us please
If you believe it has explanation and you can't give it then you're indeed misguided

servercodes001:


Why don't you educate us please
If you believe it has explanation and you can't give it then you're indeed misguided

And the explanation is basic. Your mind can be altered thru varous means which are simply psychological.

The existence of charms and other supernatural powers, in a way proves the existence of God. These atheists know it, they do. The evidences are numerous, yet they also disagree with that because it supports God's existence. What is wrong with simply accepting this truth of God's existence? If you think it's all about your intellect, why doesn't everything work perfectly for you? Why can't you control all situations and become PERFECTLY satisfied with life?

Jayhazard:

Yet you cannot ponder on who/what gave those scientists the wisdom they used in making those seemingly impossible discoveries.

"Seemingly impossible discoveries" to you, perhaps. But not to dedicated scientists who laboured night and day to be much wiser than you and discovered them. And no one gave it to them! They worked hard to discover it.

Jayhazard:
The existence of charms and other supernatural powers, in a way proves the existence of God. These atheists know it, they do. The evidences are numerous, yet they also disagree with that because it supports God's existence. What is wrong with simply accepting this truth of God's existence? If you think it's all about your intellect, why doesn't everything work perfectly for you? Why can't you control all situations and become PERFECTLY satisfied with life?

Forgive me for responding to you in my previous.
Smh!

vaxx:
And the explanation is basic. Your mind can be altered thru varous means which are simply psychological.

Mtschww

servercodes001:
So,
A man touched by someone he doesn't know and he immediately handed over his money he just collected from the bank, it's the science of the mind for an adult to give his entire money and cry afterwards??

Do you mean people choose to become insane and roam around after someone buried items on their doorstep, why do they become Normal again after it's dugged out and destroyed

I can give you thousands of examples, please tell me whether all this are setups for entertainment or deceit

hypnosis. Look it up

Na person wey never see something dey pray make something come him way
The very day u go encounter witchcraft no be person go tell u that its real

1st
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence!!!

2nd
If these so called "supernatural" events are mere physical or semi-metaphysical events that are doctored to fulfill specific "real life" situations, then why can't science provide us with a step by step guideline on how to simulate these same events?

it's quite simple actually.... and yes there are several physical events that are termed spiritual merely because the victim or initiator of that event has conditioned his/her mind to classify such events as spiritual.

But the truth is still the truth and science discredits everything it cannot prove till it is proof-able! sometime ago, people would have argued about the "triple point"...but today thermodynamics have laid down steps to achieve such.....
if the same event was orchestrated by a native juju man in the past, it only means that he had access to knowledge that was withheld from the elite scientists till they were deemed worthy of such knowledge.....

science is still discovering.... and when they come to the knowledge of how people fly @ night I'm sure the native "juju" men would have advanced to shifting time and space... no need to struggle with flying upandan...

one thing that baffles me is; the "juju" priests that carry out the so called "hypnosis" (making people believe they are impenetrable by bullets or knives or the sort), how did they acquire such knowledge of hypnosis? Trial and error? so what are the established steps science has provided to achieve same result? are the conditions similar?

this is just preamble, in the Niger delta..... that s
example above is not just hypnosis.... but reality... infact they test the bullets on themselves from time to time to ensure viability of the "hypnosis"

lastly, if this hypnosis is all it takes to make one break his leg without using force then its something that any atheist can document, experiment on and bring back home his hypothesis. with video proof, since everytime science will tell religion to prove one thing or the other, science should also prove the aspect of hypnosis to us..... since it's the only one they are familiar with, for now! maybe in 10years we will demand proof of something like astral projection, silver cord (before someone says astral projection is a dream.... research it well oh)

Jayhazard:

Yet you cannot ponder on who/what gave those scientists the wisdom they used in making those seemingly impossible discoveries.

No.I cannot, because it has no effect on what I can.or cannot achieve

MrPRevailer:


One happened in my area. These yoruba people call strangers to come and settle a dispute in table tennis they are playing. if the person responds positive to their request, the person doesn't know himself again. And they will tell him to play and bet whatever he has. Even if he can't play tennis, he will agree because he is no longer with his sense. He will lose his phone, money everything he had. One of my friends was telling me this. Until one day I witnessed it first hand. I rejected their advances. In my sight, they charmed a man and collected his phone that looked very expensive from him.(on Sunday). My mouth was wide open. They were threatening me that what I'm I looking at? I threatened to call the police on them. Since then, they limited their operation. But I know it's God that used me to stop their evil practises.

Definitely, witchcraft, charm are real.

This guy too dey lie.
Which is it? Did they limit their operation or did they stop entirely? U were just making up that story up as u were writing it.

Those guys don't use jazz. They appeal to your greed. First they make u play someone who is very easy to beat for some small money and u will bet your money and win. They might make u do this twice or more. One of them will probably seemingly be on your side telling u about how that guy is a fool who has a lot of money but loses it during a bet and how u can make easy money playing him.

Then they raise the stakes and make u stake something more. The greed and the promise of an easy reward will make u stake something worth more than the meagre rewards you have gotten in the last few games combined. This can be your phone or anything valuable on u. At that moment u are no longer thinking. You are pumped up with adrenaline and the thought of making money u didn't even plan to make that day.

What u don't know is that that guy u just beat twice or thrice is the best tennis player in that area. He plays tennis for a living and he has mastered the board and the paddles u are using like the back of his hand. All of a sudden the table (pun intended) has turned around. That loser who loses all his money in bets is now suddenly nimble and displaying skills that u probably haven't seen in most tennis players. Then u realise u are in trouble. You just staked the most valuable thing on u and u are now losing the game. This apprehension hinders ur game further. It doesn't take long for u to start begging and asking for another try to win back what u just lost. And, if u are stupid, probably stake another valuable thing on u.

Don't ask me how I know all this. Let's just say I know some bad guys.

Jayhazard:
Yet you cannot ponder on who/what gave those scientists the wisdom they used in making those seemingly impossible discoveries.

budaatum:
"Seemingly impossible discoveries" to you, perhaps.
But not to dedicated scientists who laboured night and day to be much wiser than you and discovered them.
And no one gave it to them!

No one?
Really budaatum?

budaatum:
"They worked hard to discover it"

Show me anyone who doesnt work hard budaatum

Jayhazard:
The existence of charms and other supernatural powers, in a way proves the existence of God. These atheists know it, they do. The evidences are numerous, yet they also disagree with that because it supports God's existence.
What is wrong with simply accepting this truth of God's existence? If you think it's all about your intellect,
why doesn't everything work perfectly for you?
Why can't you control all situations and become PERFECTLY satisfied with life?

budaatum:
Forgive me for responding to you in my previous.
Smh!

budaatum dont drop the smh card just like that on this.
Answer Jayhazard's why doesn't everything work perfectly for you please.

servercodes001:


Of course,
No matter what others say spirits do exist I've once seen a possessed woman, she threw away six men holding her, she was misbehaving and her eyes were truly scary, I was one of the men and the power In her hands wasn't normal, there's no way a woman can be that strong. The windows were strongly banged when she shouted, the windows were outside a 1st floor and no one can get near them, I ran away very scared, I thought about all the occurrences, they're very real and true . that's the very time I believed about spirits

Nonsense story. This doesn't prove anything.
If anything we can't even trust ur recollection of the events since u are biased towards spiritual nonsense so we can only assume that this story is colored by that bias.

There is a show on TV that I used to watch. I have forgotten the name. It is on one of those science channels. And on this one episode, they were talking superhuman strengths and the limits of human strength. In the episode this one 60+ year old woman has a son. The son was working under his truck, a big truck, and the contraption he was using to hold the truck up failed. The truck fell on the guy and injured him. The mother called 911 then as she saw her son crying in agony she decided to lift the truck up and off her son until help came. And that is what she did. She lifted the truck up and held it up while her son was still under it. She held it for a while till the ambulance arrived. Everyone was surprised she was able to do it.

The truth is that we don't know how strong someone is just by looking at them. Given the right motivation and circumstances, people can be stronger. And mentally disturbed people are even sometimes stronger during their psychotic episode.

I am sure that woman didn't throw off 6 people at the same time. That's if u aren't even lying about the 6 people and embellishing the story to give it weight. It is possible she was just throwing them off 2 at a time. Because it is hard for 6 people to conveniently hold down one person effectively. There's just not enough space and body parts to hold. Only about 2 of them will have the most effective hold. And if those people are also concerned about their own safety and trying to minimize any injury they can receive from the patient, their grip will be even less effective.

servercodes001:
So,
A man touched by someone he doesn't know and he immediately handed over his money he just collected from the bank, it's the science of the mind for an adult to give his entire money and cry afterwards??

Do you mean people choose to become insane and roam around after someone buried items on their doorstep, why do they become Normal again after it's dugged out and destroyed

I can give you thousands of examples, please tell me whether all this are setups for entertainment or deceit

The problem I have with this kind of stories is that there is no proof for it. Even you claiming this haven't seen anyone it actually happened to right on the spot. It is just anecdotes u are sharing here like it happened to u.
Trust me, if such things happened it will be more rampant. All these hungry boys need to do is go to the front of a bank and start touching everyone that comes out of there. Why even stop at money? Why not touch them and ask them to hand over the deeds for their lands. Or sign over their shops and companies. It is intellectual laziness that cause people like u to believe these stories.

There is another thread where u have all been asked to provide evidence for all these claims. That thread led to the OP creating this thread. None of u could provide evidence there. Yet u all ran here to continue pushing stories that u couldn't prove. Lol.

NPcomplete, I have been watching some if your posts recently i may not be inclined or disposed to explain soo much but what i can say and you have to know is without doubt there us God, we are not alone and the human intelligience and the power of emperical assessment as you know it, is highly limited and not enough to grasp/judge things beyond it but one is not supposed to know that for his own good/balance (imagine your sense of judgement as a child yet then you probably tought you knew it all only fir you to griw and fund out you didnt know much then).

In due time you may know.

NPComplete:


The problem I have with this kind of stories is that there is no proof for it. Even you claiming this haven't seen anyone it actually happened to right on the spot. It is just anecdotes u are sharing here like it happened to u.
Trust me, if such things happened it will be more rampant. All these hungry boys need to do is go to the front of a bank and start touching everyone that comes out of there. Why even stop at money? Why not touch them and ask them to hand over the deeds for their lands. Or sign over their shops and companies. It is intellectual laziness that cause people like u to believe these stories.

There is another thread where u have all been asked to provide evidence for all these claims. That thread led to the OP creating this thread. None of u could provide evidence there. Yet u all ran here to continue pushing stories that u couldn't prove. Lol.

If the spiritual became too rampant physically, it will no longer be spiritual. If the invisinble become too visible it will no longer be invisible, if the paranormal interfers soo much with normal, it will become the new normal and will create chaos , servitudinal paronia and underdevelopment in humans. You ask for chaos to given order just to prove things that are not necesary to be proven. There is essence and purpose to the order as it is.There is more to emperical than emperical as is known.

princfred:
NPcomplete, I have been watching some if your posts recently i may not be inclined or disposed to explain soo much but what i can say and you have to know is without doubt there us God, we are not alone and the human intelligience and the power of emperical assessment as you know it, is highly limited and not enough to grasp/judge things beyond it but one is not supposed to know that for his own good/balance (imagine your sense of judgement as a child yet then you probably tought you knew it all only fir you to griw and fund out you didnt know much then).

In due time you may know.

Nonsense.
I didn't think I knew it all when I was a child. No one ever did. So where did u get that nonsense idea from? As a matter of fact, children are even less confident about the things they know than adults. That's why they are so impressionable. What are u even talking about?

No one has argued that human intelligence is not limited here. As a matter of fact we actually argue it is. That is why we need evidence before believing anything. So far u are yet to say anything reasonable in this post.

It is voodoo believers selling snake oil that actually believe otherwise. You are the ones claiming u know things there isn't evidence for. Thereby claiming ur own intelligence is unlimited. And when we ask for evidence u start rambling like u did with this post.