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Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 2:59pm On Dec 08, 2019 |
Kagarko: That is just a pure nonsense. What is the meaning of 'Islam'? |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 3:01pm On Dec 08, 2019 |
There isnt one story or character in the Quran that can lay claim to being original; either they were, stolen, directly copied, plagiarised, sexed-up or simply fabricated. The Quran is fake, false and counterintuitive. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Daejoyoung: 5:07pm On Dec 08, 2019 |
Amujale:You are not even dealing with what l provided. No one judges ancient texts like that, else we wouldn't be doing history. lf you say the author of that text was a liar, who was he deceiving there? how could he be speaking of a peter that didn't exist then? what purpose would that serve seeing that people then could verify his claim? 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Nobody: 5:38pm On Dec 08, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: With this thought provoking questions, Amujale will start mimicking the same thing now like an ancient record player that's broken! 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 5:46pm On Dec 08, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: The Romans manufactured the Christian bible in order to passify a militaristic rebel group that existed in Palestinian regions. Then the same Romans would use these same weapons of mass desteuction on their own peasants. The Christian bible is false, fake and counterintuitive. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 5:55pm On Dec 08, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: Amujale: |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Daejoyoung: 8:45pm On Dec 08, 2019 |
Amujale:lf the Romans manufactured the christian bible, then how does it make sense that they in turn persecuted the Christians for 300years, throwing them to the lions and with a zeal to eradicate them? Your theory makes no sense, you think about it and stop sprouting outdated antichristian nonsense that is hard to sell. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Nobody: 8:51pm On Dec 08, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: Please tell Amujale o. Romans fabricated the whole story themselves and at the same time they're the very ones who killed those faithful men according to the same fabrication! I just can't understand why/how a right thinking person could be arguing so blindly! 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Daejoyoung: 9:30pm On Dec 08, 2019 |
Maximus69: Lol, if the Romans were to even create a religion, why would they create a religion that calls for dedication to a jew for that matter and not even caesar or one of the Roman gods? Jews were Roman Slaves, yet Romans would then turn around to create a religon so dedicated to a slave? l wonder how some people think. 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 9:50pm On Dec 08, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: The Romans invented the Jesus character out of the plagiarisation of older religious characters. It has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that first century Roman aristocrats invented the Jesus character at the order of their Emperor so as to passify a militaristic rebel group based in the Palestinian region. There were no Jews during the first century CE, Judaism was manufactured around the 14 - 15th century. Anyone who states otherwise is a liar and faker. The Israelite story is fake. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 9:54pm On Dec 08, 2019 |
According to history, the Romans manufactured Christianity in the first century, the Muhammedian movement manufactured Islam in the 8th century and the Crusaders manufactured Judaism around the 13th century. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Daejoyoung: 11:07pm On Dec 08, 2019 |
Amujale:And yet thesame Romans even from Nero were killing the Christians? lt makes no sense my man, l know you truly want to believe this, but it is rubbish and not historical. Lol if the Israelite story is fake, then how come we have the Dead Sea scrolls today dating hundreds of years before the first century which contain almost the entire old testament as we have it today? Were they also invented by the Roman's? l'm not sure you believe these things yourself or maybe you are just ignorant. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 1:12am On Dec 09, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: The Romans manufactured Christianity in the first century CE in order to passify a militaristic rebel group that existed in the Palestinian regions at the time. Then these same Romans used these weapons of mass destruction on their own peasants. A reputable historian once said in a public statement; Atwill said in his disection of the book he authored "Ceasars Messiah" - The Flavian signature:
The authors of the Christian bible mimmicked the genre of the people they set out to passify. That is to say, the Romans repackaged the local stories of the militaristic rebel group and using the genre that their own authors popularised; repackaged other local and foreign stories, characters and typologies and had themselves the Christian bible. Question: What is the genre that they adapted from the writters of the militarised rebel group? Answer: Typology, in that they used a trick made famous by the people from the Palestine region known as Euhemerism. Euhemerism is an approach to the interpretation of mythology whereby mythological accounts are presumed to have originated from real historical events or personages. The Moses - Jesus connection is a prime example of how euhemerism used to work for the authors of the Christian bible, whilst the Jesus - Titus connection is another. They euhemerised the Mose character aswell; placing their fictitious character inside of ancient Egypt. Note: There are no records of a Moses characrer in all of ancient Egyptian history. The authors of the Christian bible have alerted us to the fact that Euhemerism is multifaceted. The authors of the Chrustian bible euhemerised their fictitious character in order to create a fabrication out of a true story, aswell as euhemerising their fictitious characters in order to try and validate an initial falsehood. Again the Moses - Jesus connection is a perfect example whereby the authors of the Christian bible attempt to use the Jesus character to validate the Moses character. They failed woefully. Moses is a fictitious character and so is Jesus. Plus, the attempt by the authors of Abrahamic religious text to euhemerise the Jesus chatacter into the Moses situation and vice-versal, has also failed them. The Christian bible is not what it claims to be, instead it's an unsafe, unethical and unauthorised bibliography, a compilation of various ancient philosophies, characters and typologies; the contents of which have been repackaged, directly copied, plagiarised, sexed-up or outrightly fabricated. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Nobody: 6:57am On Dec 09, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: Perhaps Amujale never heard of John 8:32 before! Romans who were the world power back then went ahead to make a slave their God and eulogies this slave more than JUPITER! Walahi Talahi sentimentalism and nepotism fit make some people Kolo no be small! |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Nobody: 7:05am On Dec 09, 2019 |
Amujale: I've told you several times, just gather people, infuse this idea of yours in their brains and make them do what you believe is right. If it's working out what is beneficial, everyone will SEE it and right thinking ones will join your group. Matthew 5:14-16 But outrightly making unreasonable assertions on social media will only make you appear like a psychopath! Because majority will be laughing at you when others insult and even curse you! |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Emeth: 7:59am On Dec 09, 2019 |
9jaStarMedia: John 10:30 says "i and my father are one." Reno Omokri trying to convince otherwise is the same with the Jews trying to stone Him for making that proclamation. We shouldn't be deceived by some individuals presenting themselves to be of higher learning. For true wisdom cometh from God... |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Nobody: 9:33am On Dec 09, 2019 |
Emeth: It's the Europeans who came up with the TRINITY doctrine that translated the King James version that's popular today! Reno Omokri is correct! If Jesus said i and the father are one, he is saying the father and himself have one the same mindset. The Bible also used the same reference when dealing with the case of a man and his wife! Genesis 2:24 compared to Matthew 19:5 Jesus also said his father, himself and his followers will also become one! John 17:22-23 So the matter of being one in mind doesn't implies that the two are one person, Jesus and his father are separate entities! |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 2:17pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Maximus69: I challenge you to point out one falsehood made in any of my previous post. Instead of you to consider what has been said here with reason, you attempt to cpmpound your own ignorance. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 2:24pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Maximus69: The Christian bible is an unsafe, unethical and unauthorised piece of writing; anyone who uses it as a point of reference is highly mistaken. The Christian bible isnt an authentic piece of writing. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by khia: 2:30pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
9jaStarMedia: I tell them all the time, they won't listen. White Jesus is their GOD. Yahushua is the name of the Most High God. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 2:35pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: Whosoever, follows the above link that Daejoyoung is using as a defence of all the Abrahamic religions, will be presented with the writings of a fake historian that has an ulterior motive. The name of thr site is #www.eviidencdandanswers.org# - straight away you can ascertain that theres no real genuine acadamia attached to as it reads as vague as it does. The title of the is " Pagan connection: Did Christianity Borrow From Mystery Religions? First off, Christianity is one of the most mysterious religions out there, the others being Islam and Judaism. All the Abrahamic religions are mysterious as in they are fake, knowingly unambiguous, not real, impossible, a fake copy of an original, a falsehood, a lie, not true e.t.c Bad and twisted terminologies that are exclusive to Abrahamic religions and yet are meaningless outside of their circles include: 'Idol', 'Idol Worship', 'Idol Worshiper', 'Gentile', 'Keferi', 'Non- Believer', 'Pagan', 'Unclean' e.t.c. In Abrahamic religions, namely Christianity, Islam and Judaism, idolatry connotes the worship of deities and or divinities other than their specific individualistic interpretation of God. Outside of Abrahamic religions, those type of terms stated above are deemed to be all false and invalid. You will often catch them making use of unwitty and derogatory terminologies as 'false gods', trying to make it sound as though their manufactured religion is the one and only true version; when in all reality that is not true. As a matter of fact, all manufactured religions are false, fake and counterintuitive. When a delusional adherent of Abrahamic religions that hasnt had a bath since their day of birth is calling well kept people 'unclean', how does that make any sense? |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Nobody: 2:39pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Amujale: Before any write up could be considered, right thinking individuals always compare the topic and introduction. If the topic is interesting and the introduction makes sense, then only lazy ones will ignore such comment no matter how lengthy it is. After reading through, the next thing any intellectual will do is to think of what benefit this will bring to the society at large, that's when you should expect normal people to start thinking on what to do with such a writeup. But where you the author remain anonymous, no evidence to back your claims and you can't even present another better offer, then your lengthy epistle becomes nonsense and ingredients! |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Nobody: 2:52pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Amujale: That could only be accepted if you can present something of higher value than the Christian Bible. For your information the book has been here for over two millennium, copied, translated, reversed and distributed throughout the earth! So for such a book to be debunked, you need to PRESENT vivid proofs as in something far better and practicable in the society! You're not smarter than atheists who have gone as far as presenting the achievements of scientific discoveries. This book is about human relations so before any accuser can successfully debunk it you must show people how they can relate better without considering what's written in the Bible! |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 2:56pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Maximus69: Amujale: Maximus69: The above response is inconsequential to the direction of discussion. Let me remind you where our discussion is at. Maximus69: Amujale: Its either you PUT UP or SHUT UP. Follow up your initial claim, once you refuse or shy away from using genuine evidence to back them up , we will have to accept that you are a liar and a faker. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 3:23pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Maximus69: The Christian bible has zero credibility or value therefore to find something that is higher isnt even much of a task. Look out of your window and ask Joe of the street, does Africa have a history? History is what everyone needs to concentrate our focus. We need to get rid of the falsehood peddled by the Abrahamic religions and focus our attention on real history. Question: Where can i find real history, and what kind of history should really be of my concern? Answer: Africa All the histories of the world are proof that the Abrahamic religions are fake. Asian history tells us that the Christian Bible, Quran and the Torah are fake. African history tells us the Christian Bible, Quran and the Torah are fake. European history tells us the The Christian Bible and the Torah are both fake. Since the Christian bible's motive is to attempt to replace real history with its fakery, its only advisable for anyone to peel away the layers of fakery and actual focus on the real history that Abrahamic religious text attempts to hide from us 91% of African history isnt being studied by Africans. And yet, humanity began in Africa and then our ancestors went on to populate the rest of the world. Africans are the first people to explore and populate all the other 'continents. Africans invented paper and they invented the ink pen. Africans discovered the concepts of literacy. Africans discovered the concepts of numeracy. African sailors are the firsr to have circumnavigate the seven seas. African architects and engineers are the first to explore the concepts of aerodynamics. Civilization began in Africa and then it proceeded to trickle out to the rest of the world. Everyone currently living on planet Earth all descend from African ethnicities. These are the truths we need to be mining and cease to invest our positive energy on the fakery coming out of the ancient Arabian fundamentalist and or Eurocentric ideologies that are designed to benefit other people. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Daejoyoung: 3:40pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Amujale:Well l agree with you that studying African history would have been worthwhile, but we have very little in terms of books and documented religious writings, we have more of oral traditions rather, and part of the strength of Abrahamic religions is that they have written down books. l don't believe everything in the bible is true because l don't worship the bible, however l appreciate a lot of the teachings of jesus, because they work. lf a teaching is good, we know it by its fruit, this is the only proof we need. lf we try to follow the teachings of jesus without mixing it up with the rest of the bible, then we would make better societies for ourselves, consider this teaching for instance which few people take to heart: Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God. ( Matthew 5). Whosoever hath seen me hath seen the father. Then consider this teaching from the author of john which is worth pondering about who God truly is: No one hath seen God at anytime, but if we love one another then God dwells in us.(1 john 4v12). 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 3:51pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: Well I agree with you aswell that studying African history is worthwhile and would like to add that its also indicative; more of a perquisite to the effort that ought to be awarded into making our world a better place. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Nobody: 3:57pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Amujale: Which document backs this? |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Nobody: 4:02pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Amujale: You really lack Maturity! For you to convince people, you need to be calm and ready to address issues no matter how it's presented! Angrily discarding other people's thoughts shows how weak you're in what you intended doing! |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Amujale(m): 4:05pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Daejoyoung: That is what i used to think until i found the writings of genuine African historians similar to Cheikh Anta Diop, Paul Barton, Dr J Hendrik Clarke, Wole Soyinka, Chunua Achebe, Nnamdi Azikwe, W.E.B. Du Bois, Fela Anikulapo Kuti e.t.c . Aswell as, even more important still, learning, studying with an open mind and defending the genuine principles of our own philosophies in order that we may be able to successfully say to ourselves that we are contributing to our rich and relevant legacy. African philosophies does have literature. According to African history, that which is already proven by UNESCO, our ancestors are the first people in history to become literate. These can only be realised by a genuine study of African history using the materials of genuine African historians. Kindly accept my apology off hand but to forward my point i need to use these type of qualifications. Its important to note that the Abrahamic religions are the reason behind the desecration of sacred sites and burning of libraries and other types of institutions of learning. Yet, the Earth will never lie. African historians are able to bring back much of the though off as losr material by lucky finds and sheer hard work and dedication |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Daejoyoung: 4:08pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Amujale:Where are the African religious books that date back at least |
Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by Nobody: 4:10pm On Dec 09, 2019 |
Amujale: Guru Maharaji has been doing something similar for almost four decades now but why is he not making any meaningful impact? Well his claims lacks credibility! There is no way people can evaluate the success of his works. All you need to do is gather people together, infuse what you believe in their brains and make others see the BENEFITS, right thinking individuals will abandon worthless religious ideas and join your group! But it's obvious from your attitude that you can't even gather up to 10 persons before you scare them away with lack of temperance! According to the book you're trying to debunk, Jesus was cool calm and collected, he speaks calmly with people who comes to ask him questions and by the time he was leaving, 500 individuals were ready to carry out his orders! Perhaps you need to study how he did it for you to become a greater philanthropist than Jesus of Nazareth! |
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