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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by adekolaelect(m): 11:55am On May 06, 2020

ificatchmodeh:

You’re not making sense ...

Gibberish..

E no make brain.. thanks

not too late to change for better Tomorrow .make your sense by using your sense .

Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by ogbuefi677(m): 12:00pm On May 06, 2020

nijabazaar:
I did my NYC in Awgu, a hilly natural paradise in Enugu.

The area has fine duplex and modern bungalows looping across the misty hills but I noticed that a lot of the indigenes come to camp looking for manual labour. The girls were willing to wash heaps of cloth for a paltry 500 naira.

Despite the fact that The NBS boss is from the other side and has ulterior motives, we need to look inwards. We need to stop investing in Lagos or port and come back home. There maybe fine duplexes in Awgu but a significant part the indigenous people are indigent

Is this your story different from what you'll find in every other state in Nigeria?
Name 1 state except maybe Lagos where you don't have very poor people in the hinterlands.Apparently you aren't well traveled.Go to d hinterlands of Osun,Ekiti,Ondo,its d same story or worse sef
FYI,this Corona lockdown has already set d records straight cos we know d records straight cos we know d wailing of hunger was least in d south east.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Nwanyiogwashi(f): 12:01pm On May 06, 2020

horsepower102:
If this poverty index is finally verified by the experiences of those on the ground, it will be the biggest wake up call for Igbos.

But I am highly suspicious of the numbers...

So you believe this poverty index done by Yoruba man? angry

if you haven't learn something about Nigeria this recent lockdown should have taught you something. This lockdown exposed many things in Nigeria, Enugu and Anambra was on total lockdown like Ogun state and Lagos but who complain of hunger more? The people that has least poverty index was the one complaining of hunger while the so called high poverty index people was not complaining,osun state and IMO state was not on full lockdown but who complain more of hunger between the two states?they say that Igbo's don't love themselves but this lockdown expose the people that doesn't love themselves, during the lockdown is only the west that complain about hunger and even go as far as forming a gang that disturb people sleep at night. If you believe that index then I pity you,I have been with this people from ogwashi ukwu to Asaba and I know their way 100% if I talk more now they will ban me but just know that this lockdown has expose many lies about some people.if you're rich and you can't feed yourself during a difficult time, you are poor.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 12:03pm On May 06, 2020

Nwanyiogwashi:
So you believe this poverty index done by Yoruba man? if you haven't learn something about Nigeria this recent lockdown should have taught you something. This lockdown exposed many things in Nigeria, Enugu and Anambra was on total lockdown like Ogun state and Lagos but who complain of hunger more? The people that has least poverty index was the one complaining of hunger while the so called high poverty index people was not complaining,osun state and IMO state was not on full lockdown but who complain more of hunger between the two states?they say that Igbo's don't love themselves but this lockdown expose the people that doesn't love themselves, during the lockdown is only the west that complain about hunger and even go as far as forming a gang that disturb people sleep at night. If you believe that index then I pity you,I have been with this people from ogwashi ukwu to Asaba and I know their way 100% if I talk more now they will ban me but just know that this lockdown has expose many lies about some people.

I never believed that fraudulent statistics that's why I invited spyder880 to give his honest opinion.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by nijabazaar: 12:09pm On May 06, 2020

ogbuefi677:

Is this your story different from what you'll find in every other state in Nigeria?
Name 1 state except maybe Lagos where you don't have very poor people in the hinterlands.

What I am trying to point is, SE might have new structures but little engagement of the indigenes in the services and industry.

What is the point of fine houses when the owners aren't building factories in SE but would rather run to lagos.
The owners of these fine houses resident in lagos contributes to lagos GDp but not SEs GDP.

That's why its imperative for us to return home and invest. Fine houses does not fully reflect The GDP of the indigenes. Ever wonder why ogun with all its mud houses to low level bungalows has higher tax revenues? companies are spilling over from lagos, they not indigenous companies quite alright, but they are employing the people and when a statistician comes in, he factors in the number of companies and the number of people working therein. He might not look at the mud houses but by the fact that there are companies with a large workforce.

These are the realities

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Nwanyiogwashi(f): 12:12pm On May 06, 2020

horsepower102:

That recent stats was nothing but a fraud. Even those celebrating it dont truly believe it.

We Igbos need to work more on our media to stop so many lies being told by some people, your governors from south east has fail big time in media ,take a look at governor okowa he always showcase Delta state in both local TV and national TV station, he understand this media war more than all this south east governors, they should wake up or allow others rubbish them with media.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by princdebola201(m): 12:13pm On May 06, 2020

horsepower102:

Do you know that building just one house creates over 30 unique jobs?

Do you Know that as of 2016, Nigeria has a shortage 17 million housing units.

Do you know that in Onitsha for example, before you finish building your flats, its already rented out. This is coming from the landlord associations

Now you do the math and see that what you said makes no economic sense.

this is 2020 alot have happened within 4yrs.

How many residential Estates do u have in the whole of south east region ?
The fact is 80% of houses in south east region re private residence . And majority of the private residence re owned by igbos doing business outside south east region .
All these redudant buildings have little or no economic values to the state.
I saw the mansion e-money built in anambra and i just shake my head because him and his family spend more than 300 days a year in lagos and outside the country. The mansion is redundant and wast of space in a very tiny region like south east region.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 12:14pm On May 06, 2020

nijabazaar:

What I am trying to point is, SE might have new structures but little engagement of the indigenes in the services and industry.

What is the point of fine houses when the owners aren't building factories in SE but would rather run to lagos.
The owners of these fine houses resident in lagos contributes to lagos GDp but not SEs GDP.

That's why its imperative for us to return home and invest. Fine houses does not fully reflect The GDP of the indigenes. Ever wonder why ogun with all its mud houses to low level bungalows has higher tax revenues? companies are spilling over from lagos, they not indigenous companies quite alright, but they are employing the people and when a statistician comes in, he factors in the number of companies and the number of people working therein. He might not look at the mud houses but by the fact that there are companies with a large workforce.

These are the realities

I want to kill this idea that building houses doesn't create job opportunities in the south east. Thats not true.

Yes it is true we need more investments in manufacturing but real estate is a wealth creator for both the investor and the locals.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Nobody: 12:16pm On May 06, 2020

That survey was poorly done by NBS or deliberately doctored.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 12:18pm On May 06, 2020

Nwanyiogwashi:
We Igbos need to work more on our media to stop so many lies being told by some people, your governors from south east has fail big time in media ,take a look at governor okowa he always showcase Delta state in both local TV and national TV station, he understand this media war more than all this south east governors, they should wake up or allow others rubbish them with media.

Lack of positive Media coverage has always haunted us in this quagmire called Nigeria. But things must change. We cannot continue to let outsiders tell our story for us. This a very dangerous omen.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Ezemust: 12:20pm On May 06, 2020

nijabazaar:

Hmmm,

But we can still manufacture and export to Lagos. Set the production in SE and export. Not set production in Lagos and export to SE.

Maybe a country of ours is the best option.

can u count the numbers of company in nnewi,onitsha,enugu and owerri?we are business minded peepz we cant remain in a single spot.we constantly look out for a strong market.my uncle started as a patent medicine dealer in kebb state.he grew to own a pharmastical company dia cus thats where his market is.now he owns one of the glamouros hotel in nsukka.he just started constuction of a syring manufacturin company in enugu.thats how igbos roll.kaduna crisis has tut many igbos lesson.they cant consentrat in one place.they move around.take watever yoruba people say with a pinch of salt

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Nobody: 12:20pm On May 06, 2020

superlightning:
According to the recently released figures from National Bureau of Statistics, Anambra is the only state in the southeast with her poverty index within the 0-20% bracket. It has the least poverty index in the southeast.

Imo and Abia follows in the poverty index ranging within 21-40% bracket.

Enugu State surprisingly crashed and is above the 40% poverty index. Theirs is even inching towards 60%!

Ebonyi State Poverty remains the highest and one of the highest in Nigeria with an index inching towards 80%. This is disturbing.

Generally, our geo-political zone ranks third out of the six zones, tailing after South west and South south geopolitical zone.

Please, I plead with igbos all over the country to THINK HOME. Stop aiding in the development Lagos, Kaduna, Kano, etc and start aiding the development of the SOUTH EASTERN STATES. Fine, make your money there but THINK HOME BIKO.

OAM4J, Mynd44....over to you sirs

Please stop bringing Anambra state Into this Nonsense.

Thank you.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 12:20pm On May 06, 2020

iSlayer2:
That survey was poorly done by NBS or deliberately doctored.

It was not poorly done. It was just doctored.

they skipped the poorly done part.

Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by pazienza(m): 12:21pm On May 06, 2020

nijabazaar:
I did my NYC in Awgu, a hilly natural paradise in Enugu.

The area has fine duplex and modern bungalows looping across the misty hills but I noticed that a lot of the indigenes come to camp looking for manual labour. The girls were willing to wash heaps of cloth for a paltry 500 naira.

Despite the fact that The NBS boss is from the other side and has ulterior motives, we need to look inwards. We need to stop investing in Lagos or port and come back home. There maybe fine duplexes in Awgu but a significant part the indigenous people are indigent

The scenario you described happens every where. I served in Yoruba land too, our NYSC camp was full of Yoruba poor people washing our boxers, singlets, sweeping our rooms, fetching us water for peanuts.

The difference is that the town is surrounded with mud houses. Its in Yoruba land I saw people building a story building with mud. I was shocked, never seen that before in Igboland.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by ogbuefi677(m): 12:22pm On May 06, 2020

nijabazaar:

What I am trying to point is, SE might have new structures but little engagement of the indigenes in the services and industry.

What is the point of fine houses when the owners aren't building factories in SE but would rather run to lagos.
The owners of these fine houses resident in lagos contributes to lagos GDp but not SEs GDP.

That's why its imperative for us to return home and invest. Fine houses does not fully reflect The GDP of the indigenes. Ever wonder why ogun with all its mud houses to low level bungalows has higher tax revenues? companies are spilling over from lagos, they not indigenous companies quite alright, but they are employing the people and when a statistician comes in, he factors in the number of companies and the number of people working therein. He might not look at the mud houses but by the fact that there are companies with a large workforce.

These are the realities

You are contradicting yourself.
Ogun has a high tax revenue, is it by their own making?= No
As you rightly said,they're just lucky to be close to Lagos,finish.They haven't done anything special,most of those factories are owned by non indigenes.
You have to consider d fact that a lot of d fine houses and investments you see in Igbo land belong to ppl who made their money outside Igboland.
Except for d few topmost politicians like the governors,you rarely see an Igbo man make his money in Igboland but invest outside.A commissioner will likely invest in his state more and not in Abuja or Lagos.Same with even senators and Abuja politicians.After buying or building a residential house in Abj,they will likely build a hotel or bottled water factory etc in their state or neighboring state eg Ebonyi man in Enugu or Abia man in Owerri.Investing in d Lagos/Ogun axis is out of it for such ppl.
It is usually d other way round or that d person made his money outside and continues investing outside.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Nobody: 12:23pm On May 06, 2020

Whether you like it or you don't..

People that are poor remains..poor

People that are suffering continues to suffer..

It doesn't change the fact the they are suffering and the statistics won't add anything to their life.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by pazienza(m): 12:24pm On May 06, 2020

superlightning:
According to the recently released figures from National Bureau of Statistics, Anambra is the only state in the southeast with her poverty index within the 0-20% bracket. It has the least poverty index in the southeast.

Imo and Abia follows in the poverty index ranging within 21-40% bracket.

Enugu State surprisingly crashed and is above the 40% poverty index. Theirs is even inching towards 60%!

Ebonyi State Poverty remains the highest and one of the highest in Nigeria with an index inching towards 80%. This is disturbing.

Generally, our geo-political zone ranks third out of the six zones, tailing after South west and South south geopolitical zone.

Please, I plead with igbos all over the country to THINK HOME. Stop aiding in the development Lagos, Kaduna, Kano, etc and start aiding the development of the SOUTH EASTERN STATES. Fine, make your money there but THINK HOME BIKO.

OAM4J, Mynd44....over to you sirs

This one is trying to play cheap divide and conquer tactics.
Soon he will log him with his multiple monikers claiming to represent all SE states and attack each other to create the impression of Igbos from different states fighting each other.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 12:24pm On May 06, 2020

princdebola201:
this is 2020 alot have happened within 4yrs.

How many residential Estates do u have in the whole of south east region ?
The fact is 80% of houses in south east region re private residence . And majority of the private residence re owned by igbos doing business outside south east region .
All these redudant buildings have little or no economic values to the state.
I saw the mansion e-money built in anambra and i just shake my head because him and his family spend more than 300 days a year in lagos and outside the country. The mansion is redundant and wast of space in a very tiny region like south east region.

No it is not empty mansions. Most Igbo people that build mansions in the east have close family members living there and taking care of it. This is a very common practice. Its hard to walk into any mansion that is empty.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Putinofrussia: 12:25pm On May 06, 2020

spyder880:
A south east where whole streets are built up in a few years. None of these buildings were existing here in the past 5 years, all new developments......

Have you been to Ibadan before?
Just forget about the old part It is a deceit.
I do not think they are building houses in Igbo land as they are doing in Ibadan.I might be wrong sha.
Pls,travel there and try to get to the five mega malls,this will make you transverse a good part of Ibadan where you will see solid development.I think Nigerians are developing their environment more than before now.

I was at Ibadan and wow after I left the old part.

It is wow!

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 12:28pm On May 06, 2020

Ezemust:
can u count the numbers of company in nnewi,onitsha,enugu and owerri?we are business minded peepz we cant remain in a single spot.we constantly look out for a strong market.my uncle started as a patent medicine dealer in kebb state.he grew to own a pharmastical company dia cus thats where his market is.now he owns one of the glamouros hotel in nsukka.he just started constuction of a syring manufacturin company in enugu.thats how igbos roll.kaduna crisis has tut many igbos lesson.they cant consentrat in one place.they move around.take watever yoruba people say with a pinch of salt

Thank you for sharing this and thank your uncle for me. He is a true son of the soil.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by pazienza(m): 12:28pm On May 06, 2020

OP, the stat is as real as Osun GDP being bigger than SE GDP as a whole. Remember when Ndiigbo had to deal with that shit here too?
The recession with Osun declaring bankruptcy busted the bubble.
These,people didn't start today.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 12:32pm On May 06, 2020

Putinofrussia:

Have you been to Ibadan before?
Just forget about the old part It is a deceit.
I do not think they are building houses in Igbo land as they are doing in Ibadan.I might be wrong sha.
Pls,travel there and try to get to the five mega malls,this will make you transverse a good part of Ibadan where you will see solid development.I think Nigerians are developing their environment more than before now.

I was at Ibadan and wow after I left the old part.

It is wow!

The man you are talking to is well traveled and he has been to various western states doing projects.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by waledeji(m): 12:32pm On May 06, 2020

Nwanyiogwashi:
We Igbos need to work more on our media to stop so many lies being told by some people, your governors from south east has fail big time in media ,take a look at governor okowa he always showcase Delta state in both local TV and national TV station, he understand this media war more than all this south east governors, they should wake up or allow others rubbish them with media.

Hey, you no remain Ada ogwashi again

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by princdebola201(m): 12:33pm On May 06, 2020

horsepower102:

No it is not empty mansions. Most Igbo people that build mansions in the east have close family members living there and taking care of it. This is a very common practice. Its hard to walk into any mansion that is empty.

maintain it from their boysquarters till oga comes back. Imagine the owner and his family using their facilities daily it means he will need plumbers, Ac technicians for fixing and quartely servicing , electricians, e.t.c diesel suppliers for generators, generator repairers for servicing , dislodging of the suckway when it is filled e.t.c.
All these economic activities add value to the state.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 12:34pm On May 06, 2020

pazienza:
OP, the stat is as real as Osun GDP being bigger than SE GDP as a whole. Remember when Ndiigbo had to deal with that shit here too?
The recession with Osun declaring bankruptcy busted the bubble.
These,people didn't start today.

I remember those days when they used to claim Osun sate GDP is bigger than the whole south east until recession hit. Thats the thing about propaganda, it vanishes once reality strikes.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Genoa(m): 12:39pm On May 06, 2020

That horsepower102 invited his alternative spyder800 (DG IPOB bureau of statistics) go give a verdict, baba show block and flats.

The fool say CASE CLOSED.

why should we disregard NBS and accept your own?

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Genoa(m): 12:42pm On May 06, 2020

This is Onitsha for goodness sake.

Why won't Alaigbo look shitty when everyone can't wait to leave for SW.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 12:43pm On May 06, 2020

princdebola201:
maintain it from their boysquarters till oga comes back. Imagine the owner and his family using their facilities daily it means he will need plumbers, Ac technicians for fixing and quartely servicing , electricians, e.t.c diesel suppliers for generators, generator repairers for servicing , dislodging of the suckway when it is filled e.t.c.
All these economic activities add value to the state.

True economic activities are reduced because of the main family's absence but there is enough jobs to go around for technicians servicing families that are there year round. And more and more business men are leaving their families in the East to go other places to do business. Things are changing now.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Ezemust: 12:48pm On May 06, 2020

Putinofrussia:

Have you been to Ibadan before?
Just forget about the old part It is a deceit.
I do not think they are building houses in Igbo land as they are doing in Ibadan.I might be wrong sha.
Pls,travel there and try to get to the five mega malls,this will make you transverse a good part of Ibadan where you will see solid development.I think Nigerians are developing their environment more than before now.

I was at Ibadan and wow after I left the old part.
right now am at iwo road ibadan.have u been to enugu?have u gone to c 4 ursf b4 commenting?

i have a freind.he is a yoruba man from osun.we met in ibadan 4 a short while.he got a contract.a building project at enugu.he went and after like 6 months he came back to ibadan.after seen enugu and working dia ibadan became a bush to him.he shut up yoruba ppl wen they start dia falsified claim of ibadan been beta than enugu.he shut up old men,young girls,middle age men.anybody.u just need to c to beleive
It is wow!

Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by cjrane: 12:53pm On May 06, 2020

Op, Keep deluding yourself

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