budaatum:

Except that the definition of atheist I use here is not my own but one that has been recognised and used by others too, as you will find if you google it. Some even use it here to describe those who do not believe as they do.

You will find that defining words in this subjective way is what someone refered to as a statistical odd, though that person allowed their beliefs to get in the way of taking it to the logical conclussion of realising it was a subjective instead.


Not quite. And now, I am abandoning the subjective way I speak of as intriduced by the person I mentioned above, and revert to an historical or etymological way, to be precise.

Today we define theist as a worshipper of God, and atheist as someone who does not worship or believe in that God.

In Socrates time, Theist meant, "a worshipper of the Gods of Athens".

Atheist meant, "a person who did not worship the Gods of Athens".


A non-Judaist, using an original definition of the word could say so. And a Judaist could say so about a pagan. It is not the norm however.


But is the point not exactly that you believe you know buda when you obviously do not know buda at all (and I apologise for this last part), and then you lie to yourself that you know buda when you actually know that you are completely ignorant about buda and know not buda at all?

Yes, Shade. Jesus did not have the 'beliefs about God', note!, that were prevalent in his time, and was crucified for his, aJudaism if one follows the tradition as established in Athens for atheist.

Now, let me repeat myself as I am going to continue doing again and again. If you believe a single word I say then buda is satan and you and I will both go to hell, I for deceiving you, and you for believing instead of understanding, which is the only tool the devil has over us, to make us believe the crap we create inside our heads instead of letting the Holy Spirit be our Comforter.

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May we never emulate demons!

Ref: Disbelieve So You May Know!

Since you despise Believing so much:

Mat 18:6:
"But whoever shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."

Mat 21:25:
"The baptism of John, from where was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say to us, Why did you not then believe him?"

Mat 21:32:
"For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and you, when you had seen it, repented not afterward, that you might believe him."

Mar 1:15:
"And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent you, and believe the gospel."

Mar 5:36:
"As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, he said to the ruler of the synagogue, Be not afraid, only believe."

Mar 9:23:
"Jesus said to him, If you can believe, all things are possible to him that believes."

Mar 9:24:
"And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help you my unbelief."

Mar 9:42:
"And whoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea."

Luk 24:25:
"Then he said to them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:"

John 1:12:
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"

How come the scriptures is full of believing!

aadoiza:

Ok now.

I pray that our obedience to loving others will increase day by day!

shadeyinka:

I pray that our obedience to loving others will increase day by day!

Ameen, my brother.

First, please do not stand in front of me and insult yourself! You, Shadeyinka, are not "the little ones", and you will find that I am not having this conversation with the little ones on Nairaland but with you! Remember Christ had little ones even amongst his disciples.

Second, and I have asked you to consider this before. If satan can enter the very Holy Garden of Eden, can satan not enter the Holy Book too and the minds of those who wrote it?

It is for this very reason we began this conversation during the First Sunday of Lent when the reading was, satan corrupting the Word.

Followers of Christ must despise emulating satan!

Think! The Holy Spirit is inside of you!

shadeyinka:

Since you despise Believing so much:

Mat 18:6:
"But whoever shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."

Mat 21:25:
"The baptism of John, from where was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say to us, Why did you not then believe him?"

Mat 21:32:
"For John came to you in the way of righteousness, and you believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and you, when you had seen it, repented not afterward, that you might believe him."

Mar 1:15:
"And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent you, and believe the gospel."

Mar 5:36:
"As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, he said to the ruler of the synagogue, Be not afraid, only believe."

Mar 9:23:
"Jesus said to him, If you can believe, all things are possible to him that believes."

Mar 9:24:
"And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help you my unbelief."

Mar 9:42:
"And whoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea."

Luk 24:25:
"Then he said to them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:"

John 1:12:
"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"

How come the scriptures is full of believing!

budaatum:
First, please do not stand in front of me and insult yourself! You, Shadeyinka, are not "the little ones", and you will find that I am not having this conversation with the little ones on Nairaland but with you! Remember Christ had little ones even amongst his disciples.

Second, and I have asked you to consider this before. If satan can enter the very Holy Garden of Eden, can satan not enter the Holy Book too and the minds of those who wrote it?

It is for this very reason we began this conversation during the First Sunday of Lent when the reading was, satan corrupting the Word.

Followers of Christ must despise emulating satan!

Think! The Holy Spirit is inside of you!

I've given you just ten scriptures with a single question

How come the scriptures is full of believing?

Now you go at tangent insinuating your imagination.

Abegi, wetin I write self?
What have I claimed to be? "Little ones!?"
What was the insult to myself by quoting scriptures?

shadeyinka:

I've given you just ten scriptures with a single question

How come the scriptures is full of believing?

Now you go at tangent insinuating your imagination.

Abegi, wetin I write self?
What have I claimed to be? "Little ones!?"
What was the insult to myself by quoting scriptures?

Read carefully now because I think you missed it the first time.

You are not a "little ones" with little ones understanding, and suggesting you are "little ones" is an insult to yourself which I find offensive.

As to the numerous "believes", first there's what I say about satan; and did you know that education used to be about telling you what to believe? Well, now, education is about teaching people to use the brain that the Lord God has placed in their head. Some countries even have "critical thinking" on the curriculum. You might not know this though, if you are not a trained teacher like I am I guess.

budaatum:


Read carefully now because I think you missed it the first time.

You are not a "little ones" with little ones understanding, and suggesting you are "little ones" is an insult to yourself which I find offensive.

As to the numerous "believes", first there's what I say about satan; and did you know that education used to be about telling you what to believe? Well, now, education is about teaching people to use the brain that the Lord God has placed in their head. Some countries even have "critical thinking" on the curriculum. You might not know this though, if you are not a trained teacher like I am I guess.

If you checked carefully, I didn't make any comment on those scriptures. I only hoped you'll read the words of Jesus as He spoke of the values of believing in Him!

But you seriously went at tangent!

It's about the words of Jesus versus your thinking!
And you goofed big time

shadeyinka:

If you checked carefully, I didn't make any comment on those scriptures. I only hoped you'll read the words of Jesus as He spoke of the values of believing in Him!

But you seriously went at tangent!

It's about the words of Jesus versus your thinking!
And you goofed big time

Tangent? buda? Or your hands covering your eyes so you may not see for yourself ?

Words that Paul commissioned into Jesus mouth, Shade, long after Jesus had died and gone to hell and rose on the third day and ascended into heaven, and definitely not, "words of Jesus as He spoke". After all it's not as if anyone was recording as Christ spoke.

Jesus was far to humble than to say some of the nonsense they claimed he said, which is why one must eat the Fruit of the Knowledge of Good and Evil so that one learns how to separate the wheat from the chaff.

budaatum:


Tangent? buda? Or your hands covering your eyes so you may not see for yourself ?

Words that Paul commissioned into Jesus mouth, Shade, long after Jesus had died and gone to hell and rose on the third day and ascended into heaven, and definitely not, "words of Jesus as He spoke". After all it's not as if anyone was recording as Christ spoke.

Jesus was far to humble than to say some of the nonsense they claimed he said, which is why one must eat the Fruit of the Knowledge of Good and Evil so that one learns how to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Separating the wheat from the chaff by what standard?

As if you have other sources of knowing this Jesus other than the scriptures.

Buda is using his personal standard of good and evil to judge. That is the same error Adam and Eve committed. Man is incapable of being the source of his own standard of determination of good and evil.

This is why we have the scriptures. A Chronicle of God's dealings with man versus man's reactions, his successes and failures: that those who read will learn from such examples.

shadeyinka:

Separating the wheat from the chaff by what standard?

As if you have other sources of knowing this Jesus other than the scriptures.

Shadeyinka! Did the Book of John not end with:

And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Is it not in the Quran that:

"If all the trees on earth were pens and the ocean ˹were ink˺, refilled by seven other oceans, the Words of Allah would not be exhausted. Surely Allah is Almighty, and Wise".

Did Jesus not say:

Man shall not live by bread alone or they shall be malnourished.

And what did you think the Holy Spirit was sent to you for if not as an additional source so you may understand Jesus Christ the Logos and Messiah?

But of course you would not know any of this since you are afraid of eating the Fruits of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, how then can you be brave enough to enter the Garden of Eden and reach past the cherubims with their flaming swords and take of the Fruit of the Tree of Life and live?

budaatum:
I can not wait for the day the Holy Book of Nigeria becomes the Trinity of the Torah, NewTestament and the Quran. Perhaps then will we stop being malnourished from eating only bread and become the mighty nation that the Lord God has planned for us to become.

But we shall teach you, Shade. And you will indeed learn. In Jesus Mighty Name. Amen.

budaatum:


Shadeyinka! Did the Book of John not end with:

And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

Is it not in the Quran that:

"If all the trees on earth were pens and the ocean ˹were ink˺, refilled by seven other oceans, the Words of Allah would not be exhausted. Surely Allah is Almighty, and Wise".

Did Jesus not say:

Man shall not live by bread alone or they shall be malnourished.

And what did you think the Holy Spirit was sent to you for if not as an additional source so you may understand Jesus Christ the Logos and Messiah?

But of course you would not know any of this since you are afraid of eating the Fruits of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, how then can you be brave enough to enter the Garden of Eden and reach past the cherubims with their flaming swords and take of the Fruit of the Tree of Life and live?



But we shall teach you, Shade. And you will indeed learn. In Jesus Mighty Name. Amen.

2Cor 11:14:
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

Not every light is "The Light"!

shadeyinka:

Man is incapable of being the source of his own standard of determination of good and evil.

This is why we have the scriptures.

You are a funny individual.

"Man is incapable of being the source", but the scripture that man wrote, is the source.

You are very very funny indeed.

And before you claim "They were inspired to write not their thought, but that of God". Read the response I prepared earlier.

shadeyinka:


2Cor 11:14:
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

Not every light is "The Light"!

And that, Shadeyinka, is why you must never ever believe buda, but be ministered to by the Holy Spirit that the Lord Jesus Christ sent from the Father and that is inside you.

budaatum:


And that, Shadeyinka, is why you must never ever believe buda, but be ministered to by the Holy Spirit that the Lord Jesus Christ sent from the Father and that is inside you.

Buda is a human being: Even if I know him, I can't believe him for spiritual things except it agrees with the scriptures

shadeyinka:

Buda is a human being: Even if I know him, I can't believe him for spiritual things except it agrees with the scriptures

Except it agrees with what you believe about the scripture, you mean.

But God is most Powerful and Wise, Shadeyinka. You will think, you will dream, donkeys will minister to you and bushes will burn in front of your eyes and you will be bold enough to come and confess what happens to you on the way to Damascus.

budaatum:


You are a funny individual.

"Man is incapable of being the source", but the scripture that man wrote, is the source.

You are very very funny indeed.

And before you claim "They were inspired to write not their thought, but that of God". Read the response I prepared earlier.

That is exactly why homosexuality is no longer psychological/mental disorder like the other form of deviant sexual preference.

That is why love has been difficult for humans to practice.

Our systems programming and kernel is infected with the virus of sin!

Sorry, but this is do off topic and I do not comprende.

shadeyinka:

That is exactly why homosexuality is no longer psychological/mental disorder like the other form of deviant sexual preference.

That is why love has been difficult for humans to practice.

Our systems programming and kernel is infected with the virus of sin!

Love, however, is not so difficult to practise. If you and I were not in love we would have given up on one another by now. But see us setting wedding dates of Yinka weds Yinka!

budaatum:
Sorry, but this is do off topic and I do not comprende.

It was just an example to show that man's standard is fluid with regard to his judgement of good and evil.

It just simply means that humans are programmed to rebel even against common sense. Good is relative and Evil is relative to no particular standard.

Why did God forbid fornication when it can be justified in terms of no one getting hurt or the sex was consentual between two adults. Men will justify it even in the name of love. Some will go into the scriptures to find a Greek or Hebrew phrase that could mean something else other than the obvious.

Man is sick. He is infected with the virus of sin!

budaatum:


Except it agrees with what you believe about the scripture, you mean.

But God is most Powerful and Wise, Shadeyinka. You will think, you will dream, donkeys will minister to you and bushes will burn in front of your eyes and you will be bold enough to come and confess what happens to you on the way to Damascus.

I judge all things through the lens of the logos.

I know that spiritual communications is not only from God but from Self, from Demons and from the World. Spiritual communications are many times presented as parables, I need to be able to discern to filter off noises and deceptions from God's words.

The only way is through the scriptures!

Every communication from God irrespective of its form must obey
2Tim 3:16:
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

shadeyinka:

I judge all things through the lens of the logos.

I know that spiritual communications is not only from God but from Self, from Demons and from the World. Spiritual communications are many times presented as parables, I need to be able to discern to filter off noises and deceptions from God's words.

The only way is through the scriptures!

Every communication from God irrespective of its form must obey
2Tim 3:16:
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

The only way is not through the Scripture. Scripture itself shows us numerous other ways like burning bushes, talking donkeys, the mouth of babes, dreams, visions, belly of whales, Roads to Damascus, non-believing Samaritans, angels, etc etc etc etc!

And it is our understanding that must be inspired by the Holy Spirit, unless we intend to write Scripture.

MaxInDHouse:

This is a LIE, the Arabs are dubious people using you as a dummy. According to the story Abraham had 8 sons one from Haggar, one from Sarah and six from Keturah. God emphatically told Abraham "i have heard your supplications over Ishmael, he will also grow up and become great but my covenant will be established with Isaac the son Sarah will bear for you" {Genesis 17:18-21} and before then when Haggar was pregnant the angel of God told her "your child will become a trouble maker, using swords against everyone and everyone will also raise swords against him" {Genesis 16:11-12}

So it's clear that Ishmael and Isaac had different destinies which is never the same!


The Israelites and Arabians never see one another as BROTHERS so that prophesy can't be for Muhammad.

MaxInDHouse:
Again Moses was both God and Prophet simultaneously {Exodus 7:1} just as Jesus was both God and Prophet that's why Peter said the prophecy was about Jesus of Nazareth! Act 3:22-24 ; Deuteronomy 18:15-18

Mark 12
29 Jesus answered, The first and principal one of all commands is: Hear, O Israel, The Lord our God is one Lord;

Deu 6
4Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God is one Lord [the only Lord].

Since Christians say Jesus is God, now you are including moses too....

Definitely your God is more than 3 (trinity) now 4 Gods now I can understand why Israel was cursed

Allah SWT said:

"This [Qur'an] is notification for the people that they may be warned thereby and that they may know that He is but one God and that those of understanding will be reminded."
(QS. Ibrahim 14: Verse 52)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

MaxInDHouse:

Jesus surely came with laws that's what is called the law of Christ {Galatians 6:2} unlike Moses whose laws were written on stone tablets Jesus' laws were written on the heart of his followers {Jeremiah 31:33} so the laws Jesus brought will not be forced on people rather they will embrace it not out of fear or grudgingly but with LOVE for God and make it their own principles. 1Thessalonians 4:11

That's why there is no PEACE among Arabs because the laws Muhammad gave them must be enforced with swords!

warning to isreal
1kings
5 Then I will establish your royal throne over Israel forever, as I promised David your father, saying, There shall not fail you [to have] a man upon the throne of Israel.

6 But if you turn away from following Me, you or your children, and will not keep My commandments and My statutes which I have set before you but go and serve other gods and worship them,

7 Then I will cut off Israel from the land I have given them, and this house I have hallowed for My Name (renown) I will cast from My sight. And Israel shall be a proverb and a byword among all the peoples.

8 This house shall become a heap of ruins; every passerby shall be astonished and shall hiss [with surprise] and say, Why has the Lord done thus to this land and to this house?

9 Then they will answer, Because they forsook the Lord their God, Who brought their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and have laid hold of other gods and have worshiped and served them; therefore the Lord has brought on them all this evil.


Jeremiah 22
6 For thus says the Lord concerning the house of the king of Judah: [If you will not listen to Me, though] you are [as valuable] to Me as [the fat pastures of] Gilead [east of the Jordan] or as the [plentiful] summit of Lebanon [west of the Jordan], yet surely I will make you a wilderness and uninhabited cities.

7 And I will prepare, solemnly set apart, and appoint [to execute My judgments against you] destroyers, each with his weapons, and they will cut down your [palaces built of] choicest cedars and cast them into the fire.

8 And many nations will pass by this city, and every man will say to his neighbor, Why has the Lord done this to this great city?

9 Then they will answer, Because [the people] forsook the covenant or solemn pledge with the Lord their God and worshiped other gods and served them.


Now the Jews were expecting 3 personalities. Elijah, Christ, and the prophet

John 1
19 And this is the testimony of John when the Jews sent priests and Levites to him from Jerusalem to ask him, Who are you?

20 He confessed (admitted the truth) and did not try to conceal it, but acknowledged, I am not the Christ!

21 They asked him, What then? Are you Elijah? And he said, I am not! Are you the Prophet? And he answered, No!(H)

22 Then they said to him, Who are you? Tell us, so that we may give an answer to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?

Israel was eventually cursed
Mathew 23
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, murdering the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together as a mother fowl gathers her brood under her wings, and you refused!

38 Behold, your house is forsaken and desolate (abandoned and left destitute of God's help). [I Kings 9:7; Jer. 22:5.]

39 For I declare to you, you will not see Me again until you say, Blessed (magnified in worship, adored, and exalted) is He Who comes in the name of the Lord!(F)

Allah SWT said:

"And [We cursed them] for their breaking of the covenant and their disbelief in the signs of Allah and their killing of the prophets without right and their saying, Our hearts are wrapped. Rather, Allah has sealed them because of their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 155)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com


Comming of another comforter (another prophet)
John 16
7 However, I am telling you nothing but the truth when I say it is profitable (good, expedient, advantageous) for you that I go away. Because if I do not go away, the Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Advocate, Intercessor, Strengthener, Standby) will not come to you [into close fellowship with you]; but if I go away, I will send Him to you [to be in close fellowship with you].

8 And when He comes, He will convict and convince the world and bring demonstration to it about sin and about righteousness (uprightness of heart and right standing with God) and about judgment:

9 About sin, because they do not believe in Me [trust in, rely on, and adhere to Me];

10 About righteousness (uprightness of heart and right standing with God), because I go to My Father, and you will see Me no longer;

11 About judgment, because the ruler (evil genius, prince) of this world [Satan] is judged and condemned and sentence already is passed upon him.

12 I have still many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them or to take them upon you or to grasp them now.

13 But when He, the Spirit of Truth (the Truth-giving Spirit) comes, He will guide you into all the Truth (the whole, full Truth). For He will not speak His own message [on His own authority]; but He will tell whatever He hears [from the Father; He will give the message that has been given to Him], and He will announce and declare to you the things that are to come [that will happen in the future].

Deu 18

18 I will raise up for them a prophet (Prophet) from among their brethren like you, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak to them all that I command him.

Deu 34
10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face,

Allah said

"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel, who enjoins upon them what is right and forbids them what is wrong and makes lawful for them the good things and prohibits for them the evil and relieves them of their burden and the shackles which were upon them. So they who have believed in him, honored him, supported him and followed the light which was sent down with him - it is those who will be the successful."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 157)

"Say, [O Muhammad], O mankind, indeed I am the Messenger of Allah to you all, [from Him] to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. There is no deity except Him; He gives life and causes death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the unlettered prophet, who believes in Allah and His words, and follow him that you may be guided."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 158)

"And among the people of Moses is a community which guides by truth and by it establishes justice."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 159)

"And recite to them, [O Muhammad], the news of him to whom we gave [knowledge of] Our signs, but he detached himself from them; so Satan pursued him, and he became of the deviators."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 175)

"And if We had willed, we could have elevated him thereby, but he adhered [instead] to the earth and followed his own desire. So his example is like that of the dog: if you chase him, he pants, or if you leave him, he [still] pants. That is the example of the people who denied Our signs. So relate the stories that perhaps they will give thought."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 176)


Isaiah 42
6 I the Lord have called You for a righteous purpose and in righteousness; I will take You by the hand and will keep You; I will give You for a covenant to the people, for a light to the nations [Gentiles],

7 To open the eyes of the blind, to bring out prisoners from the dungeon, and those who sit in darkness from the prison.

8 I am the Lord; that is My name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images.

9 Behold, the former things have come to pass, and new things I now declare; before they spring forth I tell you of them.

11 Let the wilderness and its cities lift up their voices, the villages that Kedar inhabits. Let the inhabitants of the rock [Sela or Petra] sing; let them shout from the tops of the mountains!

16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they know not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known. I will make darkness into light before them and make uneven places into a plain. These things I have determined to do [for them]; and I will not leave them forsaken.

17 They shall be turned back, they shall be utterly put to shame, who trust in graven images, who say to molten images, You are our gods.

19 Who is blind but My servant [Israel]? Or deaf like My messenger whom I send? Who is blind like the one who is at peace with Me [who has been admitted to covenant relationship with Me]? Yes, who is blind like the Lord's servant?

20 You have seen many things, but you do not observe or apprehend their true meaning. His ears are open, but he hears not!

budaatum:


The only way is not through the Scripture. Scripture itself shows us numerous other ways like burning bushes, talking donkeys, the mouth of babes, dreams, visions, belly of whales, Roads to Damascus, non-believing Samaritans, angels, etc etc etc etc!

And it is our understanding that must be inspired by the Holy Spirit, unless we intend to write Scripture.

The Scriptures is a CHRONICLE of happenings: it is not a text of do's and don't. We have to learn to discern the lesson for application in our current living.

Of course no scripture is by private interpretation.

2Pet 1:20:
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."

The contained Doctrines should be learnt
The contained Prophecies known
The success and failures of others noted
The contained History that we may know
The contained worship that we may emulate

The Holy Spirit teaches us to discern and to know what the Scriptures says for our application

Nowhere did I see my favourite word in what you posted below, Shade. Nowhere at all.

Put it in there somewhere, and I am likely to not disagree.

Though once my favourite word is in there, it sort of nullifies what you've written.

shadeyinka:

The Scriptures is a CHRONICLE of happenings: it is not a text of do's and don't. We have to learn to discern the lesson for application in our current living.

Of course no scripture is by private interpretation.

2Pet 1:20:
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."

The contained Doctrines should be learnt
The contained Prophecies known
The success and failures of others noted
The contained History that we may know
The contained worship that we may emulate

The Holy Spirit teaches us to discern and to know what the Scriptures says for our application

budaatum:
Nowhere did I see my favourite word in what you posted below, Shade. Nowhere at all.

Put it in there somewhere, and I am likely to not disagree.

Though once my favourite word is in there, it sort of nullifies what you've written.

In addition,
At the end to learn to Love God and others as ourselves as Christ Himself has shown.
And to know God who in his benevolence chose us in Himself to be an expression of His presence and glory as we grow to become like Christ

It think this completes the essence of existing on Earth.

You still missed out my favourite word, the one single word required for one to do all the things you propose!

shadeyinka:

In addition,
At the end to learn to Love God and others as ourselves as Christ Himself has shown.
And to know God who in his benevolence chose us in Himself to be an expression of His presence and glory as we grow to become like Christ

It think this completes the essence of existing on Earth.

budaatum:
You still missed out my favourite word, the one single word required for one to do all the things you propose!

Perhaps you can loan me the word. I've used
Love and
Knowing

Waiting!!

shadeyinka:

Perhaps you can loan me the word. I've used
Love and
Knowing

Waiting!!

Understanding! We must understand in order to do all the things that must be done in order to perfectly worship God.

In fact, that is the work of "ask, seek and knock" that we must do in order to attain salvation by Grace.

If we lack understanding, we will be like houses that God has not built.

Ref:
https://www.nairaland.com/5212874/preaching-work-based-salvation/2#86266139

https://www.nairaland.com/5396701/why-faith-delusional/9#91966403

I agree and also understanding (not memorisation)

budaatum:


Understanding! We must understand in order to do all the things that must be done in order to perfectly worship God.

In fact, that is the work of "ask, seek and knock" that we must do in order to attain salvation by Grace.

If we lack understanding, we will be like houses that God has not built.

Ref:
https://www.nairaland.com/5212874/preaching-work-based-salvation/2#86266139

https://www.nairaland.com/5396701/why-faith-delusional/9#91966403

Refraced:

The Scriptures is a CHRONICLE of happenings: it is not a text of do's and don't. We have to learn to discern the lesson for application in our current living.

Of course no scripture is by private interpretation.

2Pet 1:20:
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."

The contained Doctrines should be learnt
The contained Prophecies known
The success and failures of others noted
The contained History that we may know
The contained worship that we may emulate

The Holy Spirit teaches us to discern and to know what the Scriptures says for our application

In addition,
At the end to learn to Love God and others as ourselves as Christ Himself has shown.
And to know God who in his benevolence chose us in Himself to be an expression of His presence and glory as we grow to become like Christ

Understanding!
We must understand in order to do all the things that must be done in order to perfectly worship God.

In fact, that is the work of "ask, seek and knock" that we must do in order to attain salvation by Grace.

If we lack understanding, we will be like houses that God has not built.


I think this completes the essence of us existing on Earth.

Shalom!

Now you know why it is very easy for buda to love you with all her heart and mind and soul and being.

You Sir, are my God! Even when I'm bullying you.

shadeyinka:
I agree and also understanding (not memorisation)



Refraced:

The Scriptures is a CHRONICLE of happenings: it is not a text of do's and don't. We have to learn to discern the lesson for application in our current living.

Of course no scripture is by private interpretation.

2Pet 1:20:
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."

The contained Doctrines should be learnt
The contained Prophecies known
The success and failures of others noted
The contained History that we may know
The contained worship that we may emulate

The Holy Spirit teaches us to discern and to know what the Scriptures says for our application

In addition,
At the end to learn to Love God and others as ourselves as Christ Himself has shown.
And to know God who in his benevolence chose us in Himself to be an expression of His presence and glory as we grow to become like Christ

Understanding!
We must understand in order to do all the things that must be done in order to perfectly worship God.

In fact, that is the work of "ask, seek and knock" that we must do in order to attain salvation by Grace.

If we lack understanding, we will be like houses that God has not built.


I think this completes the essence of us existing on Earth.

Shalom!

budaatum:
Now you know why it is very easy for buda to love you with all her heart and mind and soul and being.

I appreciate the love!

budaatum:

[s]You Sir, are my God! Even when I'm bullying you. [/s]

I can be a miserable failure sometimes and I am too sure I will disappoint and fail in even some mundane things. I am completely 1000% the wrong person to look up to.

I would rather you look up to Christ and you can be CERTAIN of your anchor.

Stay Blessed!

shadeyinka:

I appreciate the love!


I can be a miserable failure sometimes and I am too sure I will disappoint and fail in even some mundane things. I am completely 1000% the wrong person to look up to.

I would rather you look up to Christ and you can be CERTAIN of your anchor.

Stay Blessed!

God created you in God's own image, so it's ok to worship you. And even though God gets jealous, Christ gave me a waiver with, "inasmuch as I have done for shadeyinka who I see before me, God in heaven whom I see not is very very pleased".

So, you do not need to be perfect to be buda's God. You just let God deal with buda in God's own time, and I will present my defense as I have just presented it to you and we'll see if God would dare send buda to hell.

I swear to God that buda will dabaru hell that day!

Be blessed.