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HannibalXVI:
Please do in depth research on what exactly feminism is and don't attack a movement based on the actions of extremists. We do not discard religion because of fanatics, neither do we discard science because of greedy corporations that seek to exploit humanity and engage in unethical practices, nor do we discard banking because of those who rip off nations and their people with high interest and lending rates and the like. If we did, Islam and Christianity would be gone because of Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and the massacres instigated by the church in centuries past. If we did, science would be gone due to crimes such as those committed during the World Wars and due to such things as mutation in humans as a result of nuclear fallout. There will always be those who take a thing and turn it on its head for their own selfish purposes, but as the Englishman would say, do not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Real feminism seeks to end cultures and practices which are detrimental to women. These include
-Unequal voting rights (eg in Saudi Arabia where women just voted for the first time)
-Ending honor killing : In certain countries, mostly in the middle east, a woman may be killed by a member of her family if she is deemed to have brought shame on the family by whatever means, and the killer may go scot-free.
-Female genital mutilation
-Unequal pay: Equality of pay does not mean if Nneka is absent for 4 working days due to her period she still deserves to be paid same wages with Kunle who was present all through the month. Equality of pay means if Nneka and Kunle are present for equal working hours, doing the same job, then they should be paid accordingly. This is not just a men vs women issue as abroad it has been noted that minorities(blacks, Hispanics etc) are less paid than whites, with the white man being at the higher end of the range.
-Rape culture, which tends to demonize the victim instead of advocating justice. This also goes both ways as in societies where it is hard to get justice for victims, even men and boys who have been raped or molested suffer in silence.
-It also seeks to end the practice of sending boys to school while the girls are left without education.
The list goes on but I will leave you to research on your own. A real feminist will not see a problem with a woman driving a trailer or working in a mine as long as she is capable (physically and otherwise) AND WILL NOT EXPECT ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT ON THE BASIS OF GENDER.

The movement is not about being equal to men IN MARRIAGE and disrespecting one's husband. I capitalized "IN MARRIAGE" as it is their husbands women are biblically to submit to, not just any man; people in general are to respect/submit to authority, as children (male or female) should submit to their parents. It just means a woman is not a second class person and should not be treated as such. In marriage there are roles and instructions for husband and wife, a popular biblical one being "Wives submit to your husbands…Husbands love your wives as Christ loved the Church". Failures of marriages today are not the fault of true feminism but due to the warping of the sacred institution by both man and wife. One cannot engage in things which the Bible/Holy book (eg. Quran, I'll use the Bible as I'm a Christian) condemns (fornication, irresponsibility, lying, etc.) & expect to experience success in any area of life, not just marriage.

As for those who are talking about things such as men sitting down to urinate we need not be bothered by the rantings of mad people; as Sir Winston Churchill said "One will not get to the destination if you stop to throw stones at every dog that barks".

I'll give you this:
You got grace and class. You're humble and gentle in your submission.
And your points are noted.

This post is not disregarding feminism per se, but what it entails in this time.
Like I said, in the first paragraph, feminism has its benefits when it was largely pure and noble in its intention.
But not anymore. Feminism has lost it meaning. And it has been taken over by greedy, rebellious women. And that's why majority of people see it as a negative term.

It's evils far outweigh it's gains.
And no sane man wants to see a woman oppressed.

Should I take you to the US or UK in a feminist gathering and you deliver this quote of yours as a speach, the women will halt you to a dead stop.

They simple don't want to be under a man in marriage.
It is that bad.

The above listed type of feminism are the main stream feminist movement. And I have stated their beliefs and goals.

The liberals are the most tolerant.
As for the others.....hehehe.

AVRecruit:
i had to like this sir. and i could even add that the woman who wants a past time from caring for kids could be an investor on nigerian stock exchange part time, part time writer for This Day or even a pianist at church. if her investment of 10million on NSE is brining in quarterly returns she is working without working!

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Men like you are in short supply.

Too many effeminate, wuss bags all over the place.
When there is absence of real authority, rebellion is only a matter of time.

But yet rebellion is sinful.
Wisdom is patience. It says "wait, help is coming, do not take laws into your hands or assume a position not meant for you"

CoolUsername:
Where you raised by a woman's undivided attention? Does this behaviour stem from your childhood?

Supporting feminism doesn't make a man weak. That's exactly what a 10-year-old would say.

And what are you saying about moral decadence? You want to blame that on women too? I didn't know that only women could bring children up. And look at you bringing up the alpha male gene as a serious insult, it kind of shows of your maturity level.

We live in a world where women are forced to cover themselves from to toe in some regions, just to avoid harassment on the streets. We live in a world where sexual assault on women is justified by some people because men can't control themselves. In general, feminism is still a very necessary movement in the world. Especially, in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East.

While your kind may resort to silly tricks to attract females, I'm above that, I'm also above acting like a crybaby when my views are challenged. I know you're only strong when you're on the other side of the computer screen, that's why you feel safe enough to go full-blown re.tard when people don't want to be a part of your circlejerk.
You don't have to struggle to prove your masculinity if you're a real man, stop trying so hard.

Also, you are getting less coherent with each post. Try to read through your posts before hitting 'submit'.

Don't try to walk in my shadows.
I'm the sun here. You're the moon.
Respect my intellectual superiority.

I told you much earlier you type faster than your brain could assimilate. Don't try to recycle that to me, Nancy boy.
And I told you each comment leaves trails of your intellectual bankruptcy.

I was wise enough to give feminism its laudable dues before bashing it for all its evil, because I was expectant of male-poshovers like you. I gave you very little room to operate. But you so needed to impress Janet badly, and you came like an unprepared boxer.
My jabs at your chin left you ugly and Janet now knows you've been bruised by an ALPHA MALE.

In the old days when men and women farm, the women farm less hard than their male counterpart and most times they farm near home for the young children's sake. While the men can farm very far away, long into the village boarders

While raising a child is the responsibility of both genders, the mothers role in the infancy, toddler and developing years are without question. The 3 month leave for maternity leave is not enough. Babies need their mothers' undivided attention during and after that stage.

While daddy goes to work, she must be available to bring the children back from school, ask them pertinent questions, bathe them and put them to sleep.
She must not entrust her child to a maid or daycare except in some very difficult and abnormal situation.

She gives her husband a run down of what transpired in school between Junior and Peter. And necessary correctional measures are taken immediately before Junior grows with it.

Mainwhile, she should be looking fresh and lovely for her husband as he comes back from work.
Her beauty and homeliness will give him a resting place from the hard day's work.
Not a tired, rumpled faced carrier woman who isn't even home to kiss her husband welcome and loosen his tie.

Oh, she can work at this stage. But it is important that she control her work/time and not her work controlling her. Junior needs her undivided attention at his very young age and so does his daddy. She is a nurturer.

Father passes his instruction to mother, and mother says to junior, "Daddy said you must not do this".

Junior doesn't get confused where the authority is coming from and he is better shaped to respect authority in the society when he is out as a grown man.

When Junior is grown, mother is freer, with permission from her husband to pursue her dream.

Nancy boy, this is complete, though highly summarised version of a healthy family structure. And society gets safer for it.

I hate it when I see men fall from grace and become doormat to new ideas. Their place will be taken.

Moana:
i don't know maybe you were taught a different kind of intelligent but everyone else knows that you do not pay attention to insignificant things. The fact that feminism gives you sleepless nights proves its a threat to you.

Do this thread a favour; go back to where you're coming from.

Even the feminist didn't see your output as tangible.

You reek of low intelligence.

Take a brief look at the comments from cream.ish.
She sounded like she knows what's she is in for.
She can engage me intelligently.

But you,
you're a crowd - following, she-zombie feminist who can't defend her cause.

Favolly:
Lol! Tell us more about the obvious

The obvious is during your time of the month, you're less productive than your male counterpart.
You're also more prone to emotional decision than logical decision.
There many type of jobs that he will fair better
Except for marketing where you sometimes apply suduction.

If you add that to your maternity related leaves and days off, no competitive, profit-oriented firm that is privately own will pay you just as much as your male counterpart.

It's a global fact and practice.

Vyolet:
Women need to make huge money too in order to live a good life and less dependent, men made it so these days. Gone are the days of, "stay at home, I'd provide everything", it is now, "take care of 50% of bills and I'd take care of 50%", yet she's still expected to fulfill her primary role as a woman.
The reason I ask what do men really want?

That is dependant on the type of man you marry.
Some men these days have programmed their thinking that a woman will share half his burden.

But that's his prerogative anyway.

AVRecruit:
What men want is simple: good sex life, good cooking, youth i.e. get married early, support and most importantly subject urself to his authority even if u make more money than him just the same way i subject myself to a younger inexperienced boss that i am older and more qualified than.

When a man like you raise a daughter, her husband will remain grateful to you to the end of your days.


Your sons will show true male wisdom and intelligence. Their women will see no use fighting over a well balance male-headship .

CoolUsername:
The more I read the post the more sympathy I feel towards you, 'cause you're a grown man with a prepubescent mind and you probably need help. I don't know whether your jaded view stems from sexual frustration, as is the case sometimes, or some unfavourable past experience.

Your post is long but vapid. You never tried to understand the meaning of feminism. All you did was look at a few extreme movements in order to buttress your silly points. You read a few articles and suddenly felt you had it all figured out. But you don't. You seem to still be stuck in the 20th century.

I feel that if you're confident in your ability as an adult, then the sky is your limit. Don't try to reduce your competition by eliminating women. If you're as intelligent as you say you are, then you should have the ability to objectively weigh the pros of gender equality, instead of making such pedestrian points, such as: demonizing female protests, and accusations of witchcraft.

Posts like this subliminally discourage our women from wanting to stand up for themselves and force them into silence when they are treated a little better than kids. People like you who want that are, fortunately fighting a losing battle. A few rants here and there won't change anything.

Now, I want you to take a good look at yourself and try to identify what went wrong and why you're so full of hate and bitterness.

Cheap blackmail. Weren't you the numb skull I told only 26% of people view the word "feminist " or feminism as a positive word? Now drag your slow brain once again and do the math. Work out how many women in the 74% are against feminism.

You must be so desperate of female company that you make a fool of yourself in your shameless, butt-licking parade.
I'll fair better than you, a male - pushover in any endeavour of life safe for the degrading chores unfit for Kings.

Women have always worked from the start. Like my grandmother and her grandmother. I like women to work. They are very needed in fields like medicine, police, councillors etc where people who prefere like-gender services are attended to.
Real men and not afraid of working women.

There's no fear of competition. The wuss in you is too effeminate for male logic. You can't see past your pansy little facade.

Being a male door mat, you took a bite at the fruit without asking questions, because you are as naive as archaic Adam.


Thee first paragraph of my post talked about some laudable achievements of feminism and no sensible man will object to it.

What's wrong with you, is this how you intended to woo Janet? She will know you're a wuss bag who lack the alpha male gene to pass to her children.

Being a compromised male, with insufficient supply of tetestorome and chromosome, you cannot look in the society in one glance and pin-point where a lot of moral decadence is coming from.

You couldn't tell the difference between a daycare and boarding school raised child from a child raised by a mother's undivided attention, Nancy boy, can you?

Dummy On A lame fightback.

Why don't you do a hasty research like me and tell us all the prons of feminism? And intellectually counter my point?

Or you are here trying to salvage the bruised ego you never had.

Counter my post with intellectual points and prove to Janet you're not of the weakest branch of the male tree.

#SwishGoat

Creamish:
@last line... OK then. No debate coming from me.

Don't mistake that for dismissal. I'm only implying my point is too obvious for further debate.

But who knows, you might have something surprising to say of which I've had no knowledge of.

You're imput is welcome in that regard.

AVRecruit:
What the feminists fail to realize is that law and order is based on authority not equality. I am to be subject to the authority of a police officer. Adam was subject to God. The planets in this solar system are subject to the sun - they revolve around it and rely on it for sunlight, we are to yield to commuter vehicles i.e. buses, they have right of way.

Now imagine what would have happened if a police officer is enforcing the law and im talking back because im equal, etc. just utter chaos!

You have been hiding your knowledge in your modesty.

How ironic you've shown far more intelligence that those in the opposition.

Rebellion is the very first sin and that was the first gift satan gave to Eve.

Her daughters still carry the same gene.

AVRecruit:
One more thing. If feminism succeeds, MARRIAGE WILL BE A THING OF THE PAST. Its already a thing of the past in UK, Canada and USA. I hope to marry a good woman from Nigeria before Nigeria gets feminized as well.

Feminism and female empowerment is even part of United Nations development goals.

"They will say it is wrong to be married and eat certain foods." (1 Tim 4:3a)

But if marriage becomes a thing of the past, they will suffer more.

But fear not, good women will always last, even in the the Western world where they are having serious family system breakdown already as a result of feminism.

Talking about wise - fools.

Creamish:
Feminism crap aside, some organizations (like mine) give Paternity leave to men who's wives just put to bed..

Equal salary shouldn't rily be a problem when its the same job description...

My opinion tho..

I don't see any problem giving paternity leave to men.
As long as it was not forced on him.

I'm well aware of the paternity leave debate a couple of years back in the UK.

If it was conceived with good intentions, it is very much welcome. But it shouldn't be forced on any man.

Equal salary for same job description. Well, for government establishments where profit is of minimal value, I don't see it as a problem.

But for the privately owned, profit oriented firms, that's injustice.
Even in America, women don't earn as much as men in the same job description.

There is a ceiling to the gender pretence.


In my work dispensation, we get to calculate total man hour and we find out women are lacking behind considerably and so is their total output.

This is not debatable. It is obvious.

CoolUsername:
There's nothing wrong in feminism, you're just insecure. Too insecure to how your opinions challenged and too insecure to allow women compete at the same level with you.

Your lack of arguments is clear as day right here. Your bigotry and chauvinism are just a facade to hide your inferiority complex. At the end of the day, you don't really matter in the grand scheme of things because your kind has nothing to offer. You claim to do research but can't even cite sources, didn't you go through formal education?

Sooner than later, equality will win. Your kind will slowly die out. Better rethink your views or go extinct in the tidal wave of enlightenment.

You are best adviced to leave this thread.
Your lack of brain power gets more obvious. Each time you leave a comment, you leave a long trail of your intellectual bankruptcy.

Look again at the post, read slowly slowly this time and like a sluggish trailer climbing a steep hill, try and see if you can put your lazy brain into use in overcoming the intellectual hurdle I've placed before you.

#NancyBoy

misreal:
most ppl wont take time to read this,but will just keep abusing u due to the word "feminism"....wonderful piece

Thanks bro. I expected the tongue lash. But i'm less bothered.

The truths in this post will make some on them suffer internal hemorrhage.

Moana:
Your posts only reflect how you feel about yourself. Redirect your frustratuins to person who is just as shallow and as lonely as you. happy weekend.

Come on, woman! counter my points if you are brainy enough.
I like my woman, lover or foe, intelligent.

Feminism isn't new. But it has always failed.
Real men don't see it as a personal threat.
We just hate the hypocricy and deceit embedded in it.

There's no greater inequality than trying to make the unequal, equal.

Moana:
and here is a nice short summary about your life

Heheheheh!
The she-zombies rising up to the morning duel.

Your entire posts and submissions are testament of your lonesome, lovelorn state.

Look, discard your emotions in the same bin you dumped your monthly discharge.

They stink just the same.

CoolUsername:
Easy there, dude. You're not even trying to make a point here. You made a series of questionable, and sometimes asinine assertions in your OP so I'm just calling you out on them. Try to defend them like an actual human being when you finally hit puberty.

You seem so threatened by ambitious women. Could it be self-esteem issues? Are you unhappy with where you find yourself?

It took you forever to reply my quote even though your profile activities suggested you've been online all the while.

And I thought your reply would be worthy of the wait.
You're disappointing and shamelessly cheap.
You lack the necessary intelligence to call me out as your submission was clearly non-intelligent and constitutes emotional over-flow

Questionable and asinine?

Take a look again at my post and apply basic comprehension if you're capable of any.
My points are clear. But of course it's not for low-grade intellect.

Only 26% of people actually think feminism is a positive term according to various research. And some of their greatest critics are women themselves.

You haven't shown any attribute of a knowledgeable, well informed debater, arguing for feminists.

Rather, you have a reputation of typing faster than your brain assimilation.

Do some research, then come again if you can.

#UnintelligentButtlicker

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CoolUsername:
Blatant misogyny on display. Trying to stigmatize the word 'feminism'. Claiming that demanding equal pay is a bad thing. Doesn't every member of a democratic society have the inalienable rights to make demands to the government? But suddenly it's a bad thing when women do it?

Gender equality is a right and there's no particular 'place' for women. We see women succeed in every facet of life.

So don't try to make feminism seem like a derogatory term.

Reply isn't mandatory but If you must, don't try to sound like a cheap butt-licker.
State your point like a skilled debater. Or else stay away from my thread.
You haven't shown enough intelligence that earned you the right to comment.

#CheapPoint

firstEVA:
I am contemplating a divorce, too many side chicks/bitches.

Don't run, You are fresh air

Fresh air get stale easily, dearest.
You won't divorce.
Your loyalty is bedrock.
Something he needs desperately.

firstEVA:
your presence here makes it better.

About running away. Le.zz like his queen without a divided attention. He is a prince as you well know.

And I don't really need his verbal servants to tell me to leave in a most cruel of terms.

lezz:
You have lost me even without trying

Ok

firstEVA:
you are a great man

Hehehehehe! Hey dearest! Hope your day's been fine?

lezz:
You're talking about escapism from reality using religion as basic to deny yourself the harsh pangs of reality.

Reality to you is basic: what you see, feel and smell. And govern by your instincts and impulses. But so it is with animals.

With man, there is a HUGE difference. He is govern by a set of rules: Self control, empathy, and the ability to look ahead into the future and predict accurately what the consequences of his actions will become

lezz:
I do not endorse cheating in any guise, but then, men will always be swayed sexually by women whose curves and flesh bounce off just by walking; butty wobbles, laps and boobs resonate in rhyhmic vibration to their saunter.

Another unbetrayed physical affection would be formed that holds no spark of emotion for the male and emotionally uncompromising to the wife.

You're talking about lust.
Well, let me tell you how it works: It is one thing to appreciate a woman's beauty, but quite another going to bed with her image in your head.

Not every man fit quite into your box.

lezz:
A man's love for his lady does not really or necessarily bear the mark of loyatyl

You're right. For some men this is true. But for the mentaly and emotionally advanced who have come to understand the true meaning of being a man, their love means emotional and sexual loyalty.

lezz:
Religion and the notion of ethics of morality have made few men tame thier natural deportments for women and this must be commended in all sincerity.

You are right, they deserve commendation. They are true example of men who have shown that man is indeed a higher being superior to dogs and can show sexual restraints.

lezz:
Nonetheless, many man can truelly love a woman in all sincerity of purpose without the idea of sex-loyalty to her. Period!!!

The emotionally advanced man may beg to differ. True love means just the opposite. Men can easily detach sex from love, but the advanced man recognise that sexual unfaithfulness is a bad as emotional unfaithfulness.

The woman was convinced. She saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruits looked delicious and she wanted the wisdom it would give her. Gen 3:6a


Don't be fooled, feminism goes far beyond equal rights for women. It is mainly a matter of greed, rebellion, misandry, male overthrow, and I dare say, satanism. It is the single greatest threat to a decent, stable society. And it is the biggest reason for societal chaos and disorder today. Like its near cousin homosexuality, they are fruits of the same evil tree - Rebellion.

Feminism comes in various shades - The Liberal; being the most mild and subtle but equally godless and greedy in its goals. A mishmash of laudability and usurpation, she is against domestic violence, social injustice, sexual harassment and equal access to education for women. These are laudable goals and every sane man would gladly support. But that's where the pretence stops. She goes out of her way to fight privately owned firms and try to force them to comply to equal pay for men and women. And she lobbys the government to make it a law.

But you don't tell a private or non-governmental firm what to do with its pay structure. If they feel performance is relational to gender, then so be it. It's their call to make. Afterall, men don't take the "monthly stomach cramp" excuses for off duties, neither do they take maternity related leave. But this is just a start, it actually gets worse!

The Anarcha-Feminism: imagine a group of feminist movement in one of the Scandinavian countries lobbying for an outright ban of men standing erect to urinate in a public toilet, because they feel that men soil the place when they stand erect to urinate. They proposed that men using the public toilet should squat like women when urinating. Hmmm! Bunch of she-devils!
The anarcha-feminist is against every form of patriarchal system. She's as intellectual as she's godless. She holds unto her maiden name and rejects her husband's name. She believes in the soundness of her little falacies but never coming to the understanding that she's spiritually hollow! She's her own worst enemy.

The Social Feminist wants to eat her cake and have it. A greedy leech who wants all the benefits of a male worker who never applied for maternity leave. She doesn't believe a woman should sacrifice her ambition in order to raise her young children properly. She sees childbirth as a disadvantage to her ambition. Very unfeminine and greedy, she has little or no love for children, as she sees them as a hindrance to her greed.

A Radical Feminist is an active witch (rebellion is as bad as witchcraft, sam 15:23). She hates the present capitalist system because it's male dominant. The only alternative she recognises is the complete overhaul of the present male dominated system. A greedy and insatiable lot.
She doesn't know her place. She has lost her original compass to greed and rebellion. She is largely responsible for most of the societal chaos. She spends most of her days resenting being a female. Self-loath is her middle name. She is incapable of love.

A Cultural feminist believes that there is no real difference between a man and a woman. That the differences as they exist are simply psychological and culturally constituted rather than biologically programed.

She's mentally and spiritually compromised hence she's one confused woman. They are largely responsible for the female fall from grace as they promote indecency in dressing and mannerism in women.

Lastly, The Lesbian feminist. Well, you know her. They are shameless and psychological and spiritually compromised. She hates heterosexual relationship and can really be aggressive against the patriarchal order.

They look at the BOOK of books and they scoffed at it. But the fountain of wisdom thereof is far beyond the knowledge of their little hen-rebellion. Gen 3:16b puts it clearer.

The humble woman shall eat and be satisfied and rest in the bossom of her MAKER. If she fails to be appreciated by a foolish husband, her children's praise and gratitude will never escape her.

But for the rebellious, their fall shall be double; both here and there-to-come.

I have searched and searched, wide and far, but I've never seen a feminist who's truly happy, going to her grave fulfilled.

(Postmann.)

Strahovski1:
Did you read her comment? If No. Delete this topic.

If yes, did you see the part she said 'You know nothing about us.'

My initial post was not directed at any race or country. I was bashing the op for dressing like trash that her doctor molest her. Yes I repeat I said so. I did not mention anybody name or anybody country. I did not say I know about anybody country.

The woman then quote me saying 'Go back to indialand.com. you don't count here. You know nothing about us'

Tell me in sincerity, who started the whole race thing? I know u see d truth but hypocrisy and denial will make u deny it. For example u are in India forum and I tell u go to Nairaland that you don't count in India forum and u know nothing about India I'm I racist or not in that situation? Yes or no? Be fair. The truth is bitter.

I'm not here to argue with you. You created a thread expecting me that is mentioned in it to be quiet? You called Seun. Yes I want Seun. Not even you. Let him tell it to my face that I should go to a indialand.com if it's a normal statement not racist.

I was on that thread and I saw it all.
Firstly you insulted women in general by saying ladies dress like trash. And she gave you a decent response without Insulting your country. And then. .... you opened your mouth reeking with lack of respect and courtesy and insulted a whole country.
You forgot you are from India.

Well, I see why your country folks come here and misbehave with such arrogance.

You lack sound judgement and you're one arrogant man with a false sense of pride.

They were right telling you to go to India. Com or rupee.com because you lack the basic quality of a humble foreigner.

Seen the pic. Like the Sierra Leonean woman, backing her baby while in office with a camera ready, these are just attention seeking women.

free2blast:
You mean the majority of e_diots that like your poo?

But you have been spewing the same begotry from your first comment.

MadCow1:
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Mama Chidiebere!!!! Weta Orji, weta mmaya Oku di na cupboard, gworo'm Nkwobi then gwa Nna Emeka si ya wetem Nkwu enu...


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Show some love, bro.

firstEVA:
lol, keep dodging, you won't escape next time

I'm not dodging, Beautiful.