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agaba mkpum lekwa lysaa buruchaa, ama m na ichoghi ka tosh bia wuru rival gi na ahu nwa oma a. buruchaa full time

for those looking for the cause of the deficits, instead of calling names like george w bush and barrack hussein ahmadu aliyu ossama obama why not say stuff like:

2 tax cuts and 2 wars . . . . who did that?

@smlafolabi

you think the niger-delta militia has not achieved anything today? think again. they have forced the govt to give more attention to the area

@montelik
i am biased. yes. i'm a hard left liberal. thats why tea party crowds look like hoodlums to me. how can people demonstrate against health reform with posters that read '' bury reform with kennedy'' , ''go back to kenya'' ''chairman oba[b]mao[/b] pictures of obama as hitler or stalin. health reform protest o, plus tax protest . . . ''go back to kenya'' pictures of obama as native doctor

the students protested against tuition hikes and that is what their posters mostly show. wherever young people aggregate, there is likely to be some aggression. but the demonstrations were mostly civil.

davidylan:
Action like? You forget legislation needs a majority to pass the senate right? Some of you and your habit of just parroting lame talking points.

Oh and on Obama being a "show off" and being "too cocky" . . . i wonder what evidence you have for this.

action like holding his party members together. how can someone like libermann(spelling?) who aint even a real democrat, from connecticut, a state where obama has about 55-60% approval, come boldly to stop legislation at some point. Obama can use the LBJ method to call him to order or at least harras him with a democratic challenger. the public option had a polling of greater than 50% in connecticut at the time. how about threatening to do weekly town halls in connecticut to get him down, how aboutgetting him off the committee he heads, there is a lot the power of the oval office can do. when he does nothing, people challenge him at will. see mccain, a relatively moderate republican, but see how he has been harrased by the right to be extreme these days.

Fhemmmy:
Lol . . . .he is a kool dude and i think we just all having fun

blueflame1:
Yes Oh! i concur

@fhemmy & bluefame

i cant believe that there are still people in nairaland who are gentle enough to debate passionately without going personal and calling names. i salute you guys. now i have to start getting a little bit more positive about nigeria, when we have nigerians like you still breathing in this planet

i appreciate our legitimate different opinions and i salute your argumentative discipline.

an attempt to satisfy as much people as possible

@smlafolabi
read more books on history my friend. while MLK was going about his peaceful movement, there was a nigger called malcolm x. he was preaching violence and hatred and he was gaining momentum. the white man decided to listen to MLK bc of the fear that if MLK was snubbed Malcolm will have greater followers. the white man didnt want 22 million angry and armed people in their country

while Ghandi was preaching peace, there were violent indians who killed british soldiers occasionally. there were people who told ghandi that his movt will fail. they loved ghandi but were waiting for his movt to fail. when ghandi was going in and out of prison and violence erupted the british realised that ghandi may be their only hope of respectable exit. bc he could control the violent indians. so the british started to listen to ghandi inorder not to let the violent ones take control

mandela was peaceful too. but read more about the ANC. it was begining to get out of hand especially after mandela was put in prison. there was a violent wing of ANC too. they were destroying infrastructure and who knows, if things continued that way, they may start killing people. so the authorities decided to act fast. remember the population of indians vs british or zuluz vs afrikaans

in these examples, we have peaceful movts that were ignored until a violent wing erupted beside them and when u have a man asking you for his rights peacfully and there is an armed younger brother behind him, you better start talking to that peaceful man before his younger brother pushes him aside to do the stuff a different way. so even the peaceful people need some violent group behind them for efficiency

no govt ever satisfies everybody. if it is zoned into the six groups, it will get to the majority of the peoples' ethnic group. population wise. it mustnt get to a group whose population is 200 as compared to the igbos e.g who are estimated to be 10-14 million people.

no system is perfect, but even if we have a free and fair election which produces a hausa man from katsina or kano each time, people will still be unhappy. our country is tribalistic in nature. if you want evidence, take a closer look at this forum. some igbos just hate yorubas. period. no matter how good a person is, once he is yoruba he is hated. same for yorubas, and hausas. . and efiks etc. and this kind of people are probably in millions. you cant ignore the ethnic nature of nigeria. this must be considered in our polity

peace and revolution can not be in the same sentence

the issue of rotational presidency is to ease ethnic tensions. anyone who denies ethnic tensions in this country either is very ignorant or has not lived in nigeria b4 . . or perhaps lives in absolute denial.

when peeps talk of ''voting PDP'' out of power i wonder which planet they have been living in. where in nigeria have we had elections in the true sense of the word?

perhaps some people really think that nigerians voted for the PDP in the first place

agabaI23:
^ Kedu ebe i no eri oge? Jekwa chotara m Toshinwanyi. Anuru m na inyere ya oke rie onwuo. Ka m gwa gi, Onwere ihe mere Toshi, o kwa m na gi.

gaa choo toshnwanyi na emergency room, anuru m na nwunye ya jidere ya ebe ona achu felicia, ala agbabie, nwunye ya ewere AK 47 gbakaa nwa mama ukwu na aka. so o no na ER good samaritan hospital na cincinnati, ohio.

lysaa:
lol, i have no clue, what d'u mean?

dikwa careful with agaba. ogwula ihe m nwere ikwu

yesterday, we heard of students demonstration in 33 states of the US. these are the people who have been shortchanged by the Obama administration and his spineless maggots in congress called democrats. let us not forget that Obama made his breakthrough in Iowa and in the democratic nomination mainly bc of young voters. however, they have been abandoned by the tax cut hoodlums. compare these young intellectuals to the tea party hoodlums whom the world was made to believe represented the whole america. however due to tax cuts and small govt doctrine, these young voters have been left out. cuts in education with hikes in tuition, sometimes over 100% hikes have left these future generation in the dark.

now this is why the democrats have been loosing election after election since november 2009. bc their base have been left behind while the tea party hoodlums have reigned supreme. who is to blame? Obama and co. this is why they will loose in november. they try to please the right who will only be satisfied by his death or impeachment and will never vote for him. then he abandons his base who then abandon him at the polls.

ahaaa, dont forget, ACORN. a major recruiter of democratic voters was attacked and humiliated by the right wing-nuts and even the US senate finished the blow with democratic senators voting against acorn, all before acorn has been given fair hearing. weeks later official report says acorn broke no rules as an organisation. too late, acorn in moribund. another reason why republicans should be ruling that country until a new generation of democrats arise. and that is only after the current crop of democrats have been defeated at the polls, all of them in washington today. from Obama to pelosi . . all of them. . . i want all democrats to loose elections from now to 2016

nothing can be more scary than sarah palin being in the oval office . . and with each passing day, as obamas base keeps withdrawing from him, the pallin madhouse keeps growing. what is happening to america. why are democrats so chicken hearted

we are happily satisfied with what we have here

are you thinking of some black Prime Minister? well, that may take a little longer bc we are yet to see an Irish/catholic prime minister (even tony blair had to resign from office before declaring that he is catholic )

the welsh have had only one prime minister in the early 20th century, i'm talking of white non-english british

as for the blacks, we just dey. no wahala. we are not asking for too much . . . .

lol . . . i dont want some peeps to use my photo to masturbate

anyway, dont worry urselves, i just wanted to help a lonely sister i can see my sisters are too proud to accept my help, i humbly withdraw it and keep my handsome face for another

Fhemmmy:
That s still not true, when he made his speech in 2004, he was known all over the world. . . . . I mean the world.
Also, Father's village shd not matter here, cos the child is well known in the East, yet papa na Northerner and mama na Yoruba.

LIE. nobody knew that guy b4 that speech in 2004. he was known only in illinois. nobody knew him. nobody.

another advantage of rotational presidency is that it will somehow help our weak democracy by generating ''new blood'' into the system. as it is now we keep seeing the same old guys coming round in circles. i learnt about OBJ when i was in primary school only to have him in the ballot when i was old enough to vote. i read about rilwanu lukman, jerry gana etc. these same people keep re-appearing. now i'm hearing about danjuma . . lol. . .again

with rotatio, when it gets to igbo turn and some crook(as always) emerges, before it gets to igbos turn again it will be at least 24yrs. hopefully the crook that rules initially will be dead and pave the way for a new generation of crooks until the time comes when the people will wake up to have democracy.

@fehmmy
you are just trying to create a hypothetical scenario. you and i know that in nigeria you are from your fathers village. there are igbos whose parents were born in lagos, and they were also born in lagos and they speak yoruba better than they speak igbo, yet when it is time for some real issues they are classified as igbos from enugu state etc. so chill for that argument.

before the speech at DNC 2004 nobody knew Obama outside illinois. nobody. it was after the speech that some people knew him. 4 yrs after that he became president. who knew sarah palin by july 2008? nobody. yet by the end of august 2008 she was debatably the most admired politician in america and if not for the economic crash of sept '08 she may have been vice president. who knows. so forget about knowing who etc. when the time comes, people will know whom to vote. we should be more interested in having an educated and enlightened electorate.

Fhemmmy:
Obama was shot into limelight during his speeches in his bid to run for Senator . . . . .
Cos of Tofa not been known was one of the biggest reason why Abiola got an easy ride.

now you are agreeing with me. howabout these potential campaigners getting similar speeches in prior elections? there will always be a way of getting one'self known to nigerians. that one no be wahala. the issue is how to arrange free and fair elections . . and even more importantly, educating nigerians on what democracy means. it's not just elections

@ fehmmy

how many people knew alhaji tofa before june I2 I993? how many americans knew Obama b4 the 2008 campaign?
how many nigerians knew shagari before I979? there are many senators and governors who will launch their campaign if it is their ethnic groups turn. and when they launch their campaign, the press and the electorate will now look into their records and examine them and then know these people in the process.

you underestimate the power of campaigning

also note that everyone can never be satisfied in a democracy or in any arrangement at all. but if the itsekiri can't have a presidency when it goes south bc an ijaw man took it, perhaps the south people may want to give itsekiri ma who is good enough the gov of delta state etc or some compensation of some sort. that is democracy. compromise here and there.
the alternative . . . . civil war. choose

dora has a huge deficit of honesty. i wrote her off when she proclaimed the purported electoral landslide victory of yaradua in 2007 as an act of God. which god?

she is trying to save her face now. she did well, perhaps, in NAFDAC, but after that. . . . . she became just another PDP politician. now she wants her honor back. how can she eat her cake and have it back

Fhemmmy:
How would u know the best candiate?
You can only know someone that you know . . . .so how do u know the best candidate, when he is only known to his people?

e.g if it is the yorubas turn, are there not more than 20 yorubas who are able to lead this country? i strongly believe that each state can produce 5 people who can rule nigeria. all they need is wisdom and good followership

Fhemmmy:
How many able ones will fall thru the crack?

many able ones will always crack thru. never underestimate the power of campaigns

hmmmn, agaba mkpum . . . . . soo idabala lysaa okwaya? ok o, we shall see

anyukoo mamiri onu, ya agbaa ofufu.

when people urinate together at a spot at the same time it produces foam(gets frothy)

i.e, when people unite they form a stronger and more efficient force

when it's their turn, each ethnic group will present candidates but the whole nation will decide. that it is yorubas turn to produce president doesnt mean that only yorubas will decide who will rule our land. no. we still decide which yoruba man will rule us. etc.

it is the best in this our ''democracy'' as it will also mean that ''minorities'' like ijaw can produce a president at some point. it is good for us now. and dont forget that we are yet to have real elections in nigeria. the only election we ever had in this country's history(june I2) was cancelled . . . . to show you that the evil forces holding this country are holding it too tightly unto suffocation. and will not let go without a fight. . . and some blood shed. i'm not sure we want that, so let's take it easy and go small small begining with rotational presidency.

the rotational presidentcy is the only good thing the PDP ever did for this country and i fully support it. we have a history of ethnicity in this country that has been full of suspicion and violence. many parts of this country feel that they have been ''left aside'' in the scheme of things. before we can move forward as a country, we must all first have a feel of being a part of the country.

today, Igbos and the south-south feel that nigeria is not thier country. the yorubas and hausas dont feel the same way. why? the hausas and yorubas have been ruling the country since independence. they control the military and the resources etc. the rotational presidency will give each zone a feel of belonging because they know that one day their own man will rule the land. today, in the east, there is a feeling that igbos will never be allowed to rule the country, and this makes a lot of igbos feel that they are still being punished for biafra. and this has been used by MASSOB to recruit members and this can span evil if unchecked.

hey, did anyone mention lou dobbs? . . .

what of glenn beck, rick sanchez, these guys are ok but married
@jesoul
how come u strangely started looking for handsome anchors? look my dear, in case you are looking for some dude . . . i'm always vailable you know . . and i'm handsome, ask tayo D,

and msnbc wants to give me some contract to anchor for them but we are yet to agree on the pay, you know, my manager is still negotiating the pay . . .

sean hannity is handsome. anybody mentioned him yet?

joe scarbourough is also handsome. both are married though. and both are f--king republicans

youngies:
You need JESUS!!! )

enough jesus on a daily basis to free that guy from sin. and he is married o. . can you imagine. newly married, no be like say na 10yrs ago, e nova reach one yr wey he marry. anyway, we shall see

50/50 congress may not be a bad idea but not like this. 50 focused and strong republicans and these crop of babies in congress called democrats . . even at 59 it looks like we have a republican majority. no, these democrats must all go. i hear sen bayh has agreed to go, and some others like dodd, borris etc . . i want all of them to go . . good riddance to bad rubish.