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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yahoo Boys Are Better Than Pastors by Primesky(m): 9:22am On Sep 16, 2018

LordReed:
Yes there are sincere pastors but they are sincerely "fake" because all religion is "fake".

Very well!. Religion is man made. Jesus didn't bring religion, what He came to do is to restore the fellowship and RELATIONSHIP which once existed in the beginning. The kind of relationship we are called to have with our maker is a dynamic one, it's not a religion.

Repent and receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal saviour, forget about religion neither let it be your excuse because you have non.

Salvation is now!.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yahoo Boys Are Better Than Pastors by Primesky(m): 9:16am On Sep 16, 2018

hahn:
Summary: I can't name one

Thank you

There are many of them. It's either you're looking in the wrong direction, or you are simply biased.

But either way, that's not an excuse to not believe in Jesus Christ and obey His word. They make their choices and you make yours, in the end, everybody will will give account of those choices and receive the consequences.

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncle, Where Is Heaven? by Primesky(m): 9:12am On Sep 16, 2018

HappyPagan:
How can a man see such a beautiful world, then bury his head in Abraham's bosom?

He who forbids, must understand why it is forbidden. A fruit like no other, a tiny bite will rip your mind apart.
It is the note the fruit that's forbidden, it's fear that restricts you from reaching out to wisdom.

Oh, Bleep your God, my man, wish him a hearty little Bleep from me. It's the weekend, tell him to go bath in some river in Omoku.

Jesus Christ only saves those who need saviors. I'm my Savior, God.

In the beginning, this was the same lie Satan told Eve. He invited her by deception to eat of the forbidden fruit. What was the result?, death, decease, conflict and fear. Now, you are encouraging the same thing, does anybody need to be told who you're working for?.

You love the world made by God, and yet hate and disobey Him. How wise?.

Is it not because you have breath in your nostrils that you can spew the things you are saying?. Yet you do not know that God holds your life in His hands. You need to thank God because He is not a man, otherwise you wouldn't be here a second more. But don't take His love and patience for granted.

Repent and receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal saviour, only then will you truly live.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yahoo Boys Are Better Than Pastors by Primesky(m): 8:59am On Sep 16, 2018

JeromeBlack:
Nonsense. You even proved that all you said is nonsense as you couldn't even name real pastors

They are all fake. Until I see a pastor that truly loves for the masses, I will continue to say that they are faje

Your opinion though, and nothing says it must be right. If you choose to not believe in God and serve Him because some people in clerical collar are misbehaving, do you indeed expect to be excused?.

At the end of the day, they will answer for their actions and choices and you will answer for yours.

Except a man repent and be born again by receiving and believing in Jesus Christ, there is no salvation for him/her, neither can he/she enter the kingdom of God.

Jesus Christ still loves you. Repent and be saved. Salvation is now!.

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncle, Where Is Heaven? by Primesky(m): 8:54am On Sep 16, 2018

JeromeBlack:
Repaint! For the condom of God is at hand. Christ is coming again.

May God have mercy on you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yahoo Boys Are Better Than Pastors by Primesky(m): 11:23am On Sep 14, 2018

hahn:
Can you name the top 10 real pastors so everyone can know who they are?

It is not for me to tell you. By their fruit you shall know them.

You must understand that we are at war with the enemy. The best strategy he has adopted against the church now is to corrupt and pollute the church by attacking the leaders.

Only God by His Holy Spirit can guide you to who a true believer is. But there are any of them. If you think they've all become corrupt, then you're wrong, because God will always have a remnant for His work.

When Elijah protested to God that all the prophets have been slain except him, God told him something else.

1 Kings 19:18 Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him.

Now let me ask you, are you a good person, real and trust worthy?. If you think you are, then there are pastors like that.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yahoo Boys Are Better Than Pastors by Primesky(m): 11:03am On Sep 14, 2018

JeromeBlack:
You should also be able to see that one profession is more criminal than the other

If you generalise and call all the servants of God/pastors, criminals, then you're also calling God a criminal, because He calked them to do His work. Be very careful. A pastor can err and do wrong. But that is not to say thay all as pastors, are criminal or criminally minded. Make a distinction.

The real pastors are chosen and appointed by God, it's not a profession anybody just wakes up to assume. Know that difference and be guided. Otherwise, you will be ignorantly working for the enemy by running down the work of God. It's bad enough that we have so many fake and ungodly 'pastors', but don't add to the destruction and havoc the enemy intends them to effect on the body of Christ, except you are not a believer yourself.

Jeremiah 3:15 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.

Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

God calls them, some become evil along the way. While you can advice and correct them with the scriptures, you do not have the right to condemn them, never try it, as convenient as it may appear, doing that is out right disrespect for God. If you do not agree with any of them, live him alone, go close to him and correct that pastor with the scriptures, if he refuses, live him for God. No man can predict the ways of God, but we have the spirit of God to guide us.

I'm sure if it were in this generation that God asked a prophet to marry a prostitute just to show Israel a lesson, many people will call him fake, yet it was God who said it. Discerning between truth and lie is increasingly becoming difficult, that is the reason why every believer must have the Holy Spirit, for only Him can guide you through. Shalom

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Christianity Etc › Re: Difference Between God's Work And Christ's Work!! by Primesky(m): 10:40am On Sep 14, 2018

Raotito:
Difference Between God's Work And Christ's Work.
What is God's work for every living soul?
God work for every living soul is for them to do good and have mercy towards everyone who need assistance, irrespective of tribe, religion, and ethnicity. Psalm 23:6; Deuteronomy 15:5-11.
What is Christ's work for all his disciples?
Christ work for all his disciples is to go and preach the gospel of coming kingdom to every creature, and to help the helpless. Matthew 24:14; Matthew 25:34-40.
Click on this website for more information: www.eschatology.name.ng

It's a very big error to try to distinguish the work of God and the work of Christ. The work of God is the work of Christ, and the work of Jesus Christ is the work of God!.

Jesus said He came to do the will of God. Separate between the Old and the New Testament, not the Godhead. Please correct this error. God bless you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Uncle, Where Is Heaven? by Primesky(m): 10:36am On Sep 14, 2018

HappyPagan:
And he pointed upwards.

'Heaven is in the sky. It is where God lives with his angels. When you die, it is where you will go.'

'And where is hell?'

His arm moved downwards.

'Hell is down, way down, hot and boiling with lava. It is where all who are not children of God will burn forever'

'Hmm, Uncle, I do not agree o.'

'Look at this small child. What do you think you know?'

'Uncle, where does gold come from?'

He pointed towards the ground.

'Crude nko?'

Same response.

'The plants that feed us and our livestock?'

Uncle paused... 'what are you saying?'

'Heaven is below your feet. That's where the greatest riches lie.'

Good morning, my people. In a former life, I was the son of a heavenly rebel. With logic, reason and wit on my side, I fought valiantly alongside fellow rebels and woke men, slaying the apostles and pentecostals, one butterfly to another.

But even the mightiest of warrior tires and weakens, as the battle tarries. So I went yonder, far away, for spiritual enlightenment and renewal. To become fresh and anew, my own Easter.

Now I'm back. I've walked the online libraries seeking information and knowledge. I've received power to break free men from the Cross of Calvary. I am here to deliver the slaves from the unrighteousness of Yahweh, to deliver those possessed by the Holy Spirit.

Come, all ye who seek healing, for your minds and souls. Come, drink from the well that nourishes. Come taste of the forbidden fruit and free yourself from Eden, God's prison. Come and receive light. Drop your cross and be free..

Ndewo.

How can a man see death and destruction, and still choose to fall head first into it?. How wise is it for you to invite people to come eat the forbidden fruit?. It means you know what you're doing!. Every decision has a consequence. It's absolute foolishness to play with things God frowns at and takes serious.

Repent before it's too late!. Jesus Christ saves.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pls Let Clear This Once And For All, Will I Go To hell, If Am With A Tattoo? by Primesky(m): 10:32am On Sep 14, 2018

Exwizard:
This question needed to be answered, I've seen different people with different mind set towards the issue of tattoo.
Leviticus19:28 says "you shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor prints any mark upon you: i am the Lord.

This verse makes it clear that any cutting or prints marks.

The question now is carefully studying the chapter I posted, do you think that those with tribal marks are of exception.

So you think those with tribal marks will enter heaven or suffer the same judgment w ith those with tattoo?

For me they are have no difference Apologies to any body with tribal marks.

The bible warns against having tattoos on the body. If you have tattoos, which you made, whether ignorantly or knowingly, and now discover the truth, all you need to do is to sincerely repent of it, confess it as wrong before God and seek forgiveness. Then if you can erase it, do. If it can't be erased, do your best to cover it as much as possible, use it as an example to warn others. Enjoy your relationship with God, I do not think with this faith in Christ Jesus and genuine repentance, you will go to hell. Shalom.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Yahoo Boys Are Better Than Pastors by Primesky(m): 10:21am On Sep 14, 2018

JeromeBlack:
1. Yahoo boys usually have one or 2 mugus at a time. Pastors maintain a congregation of hundreds of mugus

2. Yahoo boys (G plus) eat shite themselves as part of their rituals while pastors make others eat grass and manure.

3. Yahoo boys will buy you bottles of alcohol in the club. Pastors will sell you holy water or anointing oil

4. Yahoo boys fear the law in form of SARS. Pastors are small men with Big Gods who fear no man

5. Yahoo boys are not limited to any country (every mugu is accepted). Pastors dont preach in Saudi Arabia, China and Iraq.

6. Yahoo boys fly first class at most. Pastors waste money on private jets

7. Yahoo boys usually sell high end gadgets like Iphones (obtained in from mugus) at low prices. Pastors sell cheap materials like pamphlets and oils at inflated prices.

cc hahn, hopefullandlord, budaatum, johnnydon22, vaxx, felixomor, lordreed, hardmirror

While I will not dispute the fact that there are fake pastors and fake prophets, the fact remains that there are still real pastors and prophets today. So, in addressing the pastors, clear distinction must be made. There is no way a thief, cheat and swindler can be better than a born again pastor.

Besides, what you said now, is subtly encouraging criminality whether you know it or not!. Yahoo yahoo is evil and criminal and remains so for all ages. Fake pastors are not pastors, they were not called by God, and should not be roped into God's activities. They are thieves disguised as pastors.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Question For Jehovah Witness, Why The Name? by Primesky(m): 10:13am On Sep 14, 2018

Emusan:
The true body of Christ all bear witness to the rising Lord Jesus but a particular group decided to isolate themselves by given themselves a name known as 'Jehovah Witness'

If you ask any of their members, why bearing witness to Jehovah and not Jesus Christ?

Their quick respond will be God says in Isa 43:10 that "you're my witness says Jehovah..." just as they explained it here under the topic: why are we called Jehovah witness?
Many people think that Jehovah’s Witnesses is the name of a new religion. However, over 2,700 years ago, the servants of the only true God were described as his “witnesses.” ( Isaiah 43:10-12 ) Until 1931, we were known as Bible Students. Why did we adopt the name Jehovah’s Witnesses? https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/jehovahs-will/why-called-jehovahs-witnesses/

Notice that it was said here that "...Over 2,700 years ago, the SERVANTS of the only true God we're described as his "WITNESSES"

Which means, the NAME Jehovah witness didn't start from them but originated from Bible.
NOTE: Originated here means they're not the first people to be called Jehovah witness but every Biblical Characters are all Jehovah witnesses. You can read that from the link!

Now, when reading Watchtower magazine and Awake publication of Jehovah witness. Whenever, there's a reference to old people especially the disciples of Jesus Christ and people who walked with the disciples. Their publications ALWAYS refer to them as 'EARLY CHRISTIANS'

My questions are:
1. If people are actually known in the Bible over 2,700 years ago as witnesses, why can't we find exert name as Jehovah witness directly applied to a person/group of people in the Bible?

2. Why does Watchtower and Awake always refer to the early people as 'EARLY CHRISTIANS' and not EARLY JEHOVAH WITNESS?

Jehovah witness as a religion, powered by watch tower, is Antichrist in their practice!. Let no one be deceived, that they preach the bible, though twisted, and they show signs of love and care, they are not Christians, neither do they truly believe in the real Jesus Christ!.

We must continue to evangelise them and pray that God will free the adherents from the high class brain washing of Watch Tower.

Christianity Etc › Re: Catholic Church Under Attack As Pope Blames Devil For Sex Abuse Cover-up Scandal by Primesky(m): 10:06am On Sep 14, 2018

I think men should be allowed to marry if they want. Why do you have to cage them?. Apostle Paul admonished that, if any man can not control his urge and remain celibate, let him marry. It's better to marry than burn with lustful passion.

Peter whom the Catholic Church tends to emulate also married. Married people are falling into this sin, how much more those NOT allowed to marry?. That decision should be personal. The position of the Catholic Church on marriage for their priest and clergy is not supported by the scriptures, do not give the devil more room than he already has to tempt people.

Politics › Re: "Atiku Withdraw Or We Kill, Rape Your Wife & Daughters, Blow Your Plane, Poison” by Primesky(m): 10:28pm On Sep 13, 2018

This needs to be investigated. Forget politics and politicking, this seriously calls for action. One major problem with Nigeria is that we don't take matters seriously at the beginning until they begin to get out of hands, we even do that in sports. If this is not checked, and the culprit arrested, whoever that may be, others will see it as a new way of scaring aspirants off the race, which is not good for the country.

Nigeria must say no to such precedent.

Christianity Etc › Re: My Take On The Doctrine Of Trinity And Those Saying Jesus Is God Almighty! by Primesky(m): 7:44pm On Sep 13, 2018

budaatum:
Does it sound phony? Don't sound phony to me! That's the "Jesus Christ" we need today, and not the "save you from hell and damnation" one. Those who know Christ should fear no evil.

Hey, we'll continue this I'm sure. At least you're not like some who would have resorted to insults by now. I like you. Be more blessed. And consider 'serving', and 'worship', is more than mere "believing", which even Satan is said to do.

Very well. But don't forget what Jesus Christ actually came down to do. He came to seek and to save that which was lost, to give life to that which was dead and to show light to those in darkness. When presenting the gospel, these complete aspects must be put forward. Knowing then that these are the things Jesus Christ came to do for us, how at ease should one be knowing that there are many more persons who haven't heard or received this good news?.

Therefore we will continue to warn and appeal to men to repent and receive Jesus Christ, not religion!. Jesus Christ is calling us back to Himself to have fellowship and communion. A dynamic relationship which must be based on the written word of God. Anything outside the scriptures in attempt at doing this, becomes falsehood and a lie.

May more souls come to repentance and accept Jesus Christ.

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Christianity Etc › Re: My Take On The Doctrine Of Trinity And Those Saying Jesus Is God Almighty! by Primesky(m): 10:26am On Sep 13, 2018

budaatum:
The Jew's picked up stone because Jesus was a rabble-rouser who inflamed the emotions of people and made them question their own understanding. The people started questioning why they had to keep paying the priests, not exactly all "the Jew's', primesky, just a few, mainly the priests, and the merchant class at best, all together swindling the people of their hard earned resources with promises of fake afterlife and hell and damnation if they didn't acquiesce.

Jesus told the people not to pay the 'taxes' anymore because the priests were thieves giving stone in place of bread, teaching ignorance in place of God, and that no one is going to hell, "I, Jesus will go to God and tell God to forgive you for free", the peoples' eyes' opened and they stopped paying the tax and levies, so the revenue of the priesthood went down and they couldn't pay the interest on their already heavy debt, so it was added to the principal, then the interest went up and they got further into debt, they said to Jesus, "stop spoiling market", but stubborn Jesus that he was, he told them to go fuq themselves, and they weren't happy about it, so they picked up stones, a few, primesky! And they threatened to stone him.

Do you know what Jesus said to those who picked up stones and threatened to stone him? I bet your version says, "he went and hid"? A whole Son of God! Hiding!!?!

Jesus Christ, the Son of God, with his chest stuck out like he himself was Yahweh, said, "If na tru tru na papa bon you!"

And since they didn't really know the Father, they just slunk away.

Twisted Scripture!

budaatum, it may sound phony, but do not toy with the Holy scriptures!.

Jesus Christ is the only way. You will also notice that this offense about who Jesus really is did not start today, it began right from His days here on earth.

Satan hates to hear us talk about Jesus, let alone believe in Him, because doing so will release us from his prison and grip.

That's why we have all manner of religion, all claiming to serve God, but the contention is against Jesus Christ, why?. Because He is the only way to God. You can call and claim to serve God, but if it's not through Christ, you're on your own. So, I am not, neither will I be surprised if and when different kinds of persons bring up religiouly pious discussions, practices, doctrines and creed, but deny the very person and quality or characteristics of Jesus Christ.

I have hope for you budaatum.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Hell Fire Does Not Exist by Primesky(m): 10:16am On Sep 13, 2018

Peacefullove:
Enough of this rant man.

The sea deliver the dead in it.

Hell deliver the dead in it.

Why Did the verse clarify the Two as SEPARATE ?

Primesky. E pass your level ?

it's a rant right?. No problem. Just answer the questions and we will address this one. Why have you refused to answer those questions?. grin

. Peacefullove, I don't know if you're male or female, but I love you. But to see you doing this is totally seekening. Why are you dodging and twisting the truth?.

Are you one of the chief slaves, or are you one of the elders?. Do you fear you may loose your position and prestige?. These are some of the reasons why I think you're still holding on to a broken Reed. Nobody can fight the truth.

What happens to those who die in the water?. Good question. Now answer the question I put to you first, let's have a base and foundation, otherwise, we won't make head way because I explained the reason before, but you rejected, denied and misinterpreted it. So, to avoid that from happening again, I said answer some questions whose answers by the way are in the bible, but you refused to do that. Why?.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Hell Fire Does Not Exist by Primesky(m): 10:00am On Sep 13, 2018

Peacefullove:
you didn't answer the question I asked.

Have asked again, Try to answer or E pass your level ?

Yeshua never pronounced hell, he pronounced Gehinna or valley of hinnom ( Check and confirm before you rant because I know you are too lazy to research ) dead bodies are dumped there not mythical souls

You are too d.ull . so am the one that said hell is grave or YOuR BIBLE confirm it.

New Living Translation reads

For my anger blazes forth like fire and burns to the depths of the GRAVE It devours the earth and all its crops and ignites the foundations of the mountains. (emphasis mine). Deu 32:22

Hell is Grave , Are you wiser than your bible?

Can you now see why I said you are too d.ull

Fixed! Gehenna ( dead bodies are thrown there not mythical souls ) expressions like " hands" " two hands " are reffering to the Body, his listeners understand .

Do you agree hands and Body goes to hell ?

Lazinesss is affecting you. He went to preach after he was quickened, to be quickened means to be Made Alive. So STOP lying he was preaching when he died. It was after he was Made Alive .

Before you rant, make sure you confirm and verify the meaning of quickened used here. Shiooor

See how Laziness to research has blinded you.

As for the spirits he preached to, answer my first question on those inside the sea , We will know if the expression ' those disobedient in Noahs day , refer to dead humans in prison OF HELL' as you will want us to believe. Can those who died in water of Noah, be said to be in the Sea or hell ?

Jewish account of Noah's flood says Some Angels come to earth, interestingly the same Jewish scripture says Angels are spirits ( who maketh his angels SPIRIT as written in Psalm 104 vs 24) definitely, after your answer to my question , we would know if this are the ones he preached to or not.
Vital

May God have mercy on your soul!. Why do you twist the bible so?, do you at all think this will bring you salvation, and earn you a place in eternal life?. What madness is this?. How is your conscience?, I wonder how comfortable you feel twisting the scriptures like you do, it's a pitiable plight. Just to defend falsehood, you sort for a very convenient version of bible to gainsay hell. And here you are saying hell fire doesn't exist, what a bare face lie!. How many bible verses can you deny, which authenticate that?. At least a wise person will see the falsehood in Jehovah witness religion and the false teachings perpetuated by Watch Tower. Whether you choose to believe it or not, the truth is very clear to you. Otherwise, you wouldn't engage in this masterful twisting and muddling.

Once again, the whole confusion about spirit going to hell or not and the rest of the things you're saying will be very well addressed when you have answered my questions.

Why are you dodging my questions?. Answer those questions, and hopefully all this beating about the bush will be clarified, but no, you won't!.

Sometimes I wonder if you understand what you read or you just deliberately twist things to suit you.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.[color=#990000][/color]

Can you calmly read the passage again, for better understanding?. If you're having comprehension problem, you can meet a secondary school student to explain it for you. The spirits in question were those who were disobedient in the time of Noah!. Stop twisting obvious fact!.

Let me even assume and come down to your point, you said Jesus preached to them after He rose again, do you then mean they didn't rot away, didn't they perish after all those years?. Why are you embarrassing and disgracing yourself over clear falsehood?.

Peacefullove, you quoted the NLT and said, there is no hell fire, but grave. You left other versions and found comfort in NLT, can I assume that NLT is now the correct bible version?, well let me assume so for now.

Peacefullove, did you also border to check the following verses in the NLT you quoted?

Matthew 5:22 New Living Translation (NLT)
22 But I say, if you are even angry with someone,[a] you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone,[c] you are in danger of the fires of hell.[d]

[b]Mark 9:43 New Living Translation (NLT)
43 If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It’s better to enter eternal life with only one hand than to go into the unquenchable fires of hell[a] with two hands.[b]

What is fires of hell and unquenchable fires of hell doing there?. Despite the fact that the translators of the NLT chose to put the other as grave, they still maintained this one, which Jesus himself said. So what is your point, is Jesus lying and watch tower telling the truth, or is NLT now substandard and fake all of a sudden?. No matter how you twist the scriptures, it will always defend itself!. Stop living and believing a lie!.

What a confusion!. You are asking me to do research, yet when I directed you to research on the spirit topic on YouTube and other places, you called it rubbish. You're just unstable, all because you want to defend watch tower. It's a shame bro, stop it and accept the clear truth of the bible.

Angels are spirits, do angels have hands and feet?.

Stop asking me any further questions until you have answered my pending questions. Thank you.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Know Ye Not That Atheism Is Within You. by Primesky(m): 9:14am On Sep 13, 2018

LordReed:
No sarcasm at all, that is the same premise you follow on with your statement.

OK, if you say so. But I do not really understand what you were trying to communicate.

But for me, this is what the one who died and rose again, and is still alive, Jesus Christ, the Son of God said:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

To have Jesus Christ is to have everything. To live and die without Him is an unimaginable terror!. This is a simple but powerful truth. Well, you may not see to believe it, but a whole lot have had the opportunity to see what await those who don't believe in Him, even when they did not believe it, and their testimony agrees with the scriptures. I have seen, but my testimony is not what you necessarily have to believe. The bible is very true and correct, and is sufficient. I wish God will open your eyes to see it too, but it's not a must neither is it a guarantee. So, do not see it as mere religious talk, or feel like someone is insulting your sense of reasoning. This is an undeniable reality.

Dying without Jesus Christ is a hopeless future filled with indescribable terror. Repent and receive Jesus Christ and be saved. It's not fear mongering either, but the truth!. Shalom.

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Politics › Re: Tinubu Has Final Say On Next Lagos Governor — APC by Primesky(m): 8:51am On Sep 13, 2018

Hmm... Then why are we wasting time and money conducting elections?. The whole thing is a sharade. This statement seems to have precedents.

May God save Nigeria.

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Christianity Etc › Re: God’s Kingdom, The Only Lasting Solution To Mankind’s Problems-I by Primesky(m): 8:54pm On Sep 11, 2018

[quote author=Restroom post=71113473][/quote]Hahaha... God said so, ours is to believe Him.

He will make all things new. That is His promise.

This is my own opinion, not the bible. It is like the feeling you have when your one ball of apple falls into the gutter, no matter how much you wash it, it won't look so pure and hygienic in your eyes, more so, when you have the money to buy a whole lot more.

It doesn't take God so much to create a new heaven and a new earth. To Him according to the scriptures, it's like spreading a curtain. After the menance of sin and wickedness, doesn't it make common sense to literally change everything, to have that sense of cleanliness and purity?. My take though. Shalom!.

Christianity Etc › Re: Know Ye Not That Atheism Is Within You. by Primesky(m): 8:45pm On Sep 11, 2018

LordReed:
Actually, I am following your logic.

Please make sense of your post and stop the sacasim.

Christianity Etc › Re: My Take On The Doctrine Of Trinity And Those Saying Jesus Is God Almighty! by Primesky(m): 8:44pm On Sep 11, 2018

[quote author=Maamin post=71105055]Trinity is not the way to salvation, it is neither not how Jesus taught us to be redeemed. That is your own teaching.[/quote

If you understand what is talked about here, you won't say what you've just said.

Someone comes to you and tells you, look I believe in Jesus Christ, but that Jesus was a created person, Michael, the archangel.

The person comes again and tells you, that the Jesus he believes in, is not God, but a god. As if that's not enough, the person also believes that this Jesus Christ he believes in, has already come back the second time to earth, and is here!.

I want you to tell me, would such a person go to heaven still based on what Jesus Christ taught us, because he says, I believe in Jesus Christ?.

Attempt at addressing this major obstacle, is what has led to these arguments. So where as it may look ordinary, the fact is, it is never ordinary.

And it will be very wicked for any true Christian to see others wallowing in such falsehood and false teaching and not point it out, while praying that God will change such persons, because only He can do that.

From what I have said above, is the discussion still worthless?. I think it will be nice if you say what you believe in, what I see here is a gang of Jehovah witnesses, frantically trying to defend their religion.

If any man says he believes in God, and does not believe in Jesus Christ as God the son, and believe in the Holy Spirit, how can he say he believe in God?. Such believe and the person believed in, must be thoroughly investigated, because it is contrary to the scriptures!. Therefore understand the matter at hand.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Hell Fire Does Not Exist by Primesky(m): 8:29pm On Sep 11, 2018

Peacefullove:
Kindly address the Red area first , your friend hang and couldn't respond .

WHY DONT THOSE WHO DIED IN THE SEA GO TO HELL ?

Once you do, the whole verse you post above will be clear . Am surprised you dont know shishi in your Bible

Oh Lord have mercy!. Come, peacefullove, will you deny I never answered this question before, and even asked you to go and see some documentaries, because you keep saying the things I point out in the bible are inserted?. Rather than do that, you waved it aside as rubbish. The whole thing stems from the fact that you do not believe in man having a conscious spirit and soul.

Now to address this very question in red again, I have asked you some questions, and up till now, you keep dodging them. Unless you answer those questions, which I asked you long before this one, we can't go anywhere, because we will still arrive at the same spot.

Answer my questions, then we shall address the issue of souls and spirit in the water and pharaoh in the red sea. Please don't ignore those questions again. Thank you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Hell Fire Does Not Exist by Primesky(m): 8:19pm On Sep 11, 2018

Jessicha:
That someone holds a contrary opinion to you doesn't mean you should resort to name calling. Either he is JW or not . the question is: is he making is point clear ? How tenable is his defences ? That should be the focus , not all this hollabubu name calling you are resorting to.

What if you later discover he is not even JW but an agnostic . Behave Sir

Are you now his advocatehere?. Did he tell you he is an agnostic, or are you assuming?. You won't succeed in this effort to drive a wedge, never, you can't!. Someone may think oh, this lady is making a point, but I have been on and off topic with this guy, you have no idea what he has said, and what he believes in in the name of ' I believe in God', so what are you here now saying, what you're point?. It's either you too are one of them or you just want to raise dust. I have seen this many times here before.

Everyone will be making a point in his own view, only those with honest mind will accept their fault. What then happens when someone says the bible said, where as the bible didn't say so, should such a person be allowed, all in the name of it's his own opinion?.

This guy you're defending has never denied being a Jehovah witness, so what's you're issue with that, can't he speak for himself?, or has he asked you to defend him?. He claims his fact from the bible, yet those facts have been shown by the bible itself to be false!. Many others have pointed it out to him, rather than accept the truth, he results to name calling. Peacefullove's stock in trade here has been scripture twisting.

Excuse me Jessica, do you suppose I keep quiet and swallow falsehood when it's clearly seen and evident, because someone chooses to maintain a false position?, how convenient!. That will fail!.

If you fancy peacfullove, tell him or her to answer my questions posed to him. They will settle all these issues. He has asked me, and I have answered, but he said, I lied. No problem, let him answer the ones I asked him so that we can proceed in addressing the matter and questions on ground.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Hell Fire Does Not Exist by Primesky(m): 7:55pm On Sep 11, 2018

Jessicha:
[font=Times New Roman] Revelation 20:13 deals with Ressurection that explains your questions, Stop this name calling . You don't even answer the question peacefullove asked.

why is it that those in the Sea don't belong to hell ?? ? [/font

Lol, @ peacefullove come and see question.

Oh wow!. Please o, are you his cheer leader?. I have explained the matter before, the matter was addressed to him, so before you start your attack, you may want to find out how we began. What brought us here is that he and others in support of Jehovah witness and watch towe,r have never accepted to be wrong even when the bible they claim to believe and preach says so, they would rather twist the scriptures. This has been their practice.

I won't be surprised if you are any one of these persons, because it has happened before. If you know them, tell them to stop twisting the bible!.

To you I ask, who told you that those who died in the sea do not go to hell?. As usual, you may want to join him, go and pull up a verse and latch onto it.

Go back and find the full explanation of what happens to those who died in the sea and those who died on land, I have already explained it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Hell Fire Does Not Exist by Primesky(m): 7:54pm On Sep 11, 2018

Jessicha:
Revelation 20:13 deals with Ressurection that explains your questions, Stop this name calling . You don't even answer the question peacefullove asked.

why is it that those in the Sea don't belong to hell ?? ?

Oh wow!. Please o, are you his cheer leader?. I have explained the matter before, the matter was addressed to him, so before you start your attack, you may want to find out how we began. What brought us here is that he and others in support of Jehovah witness and watch towe,r have never accepted to be wrong even when the bible they claim to believe and preach says so, they would rather twist the scriptures. This has been their practice.

I won't be surprised if you are any one of these persons, because it has happened before. If you know them, tell them to stop twisting the bible!.

To you I ask, who told you that those who died in the sea do not go to hell?. As usual, you may want to join him, go and pull up a verse and latch onto it.

Go back and find the full explanation of what happens to those who died in the sea and those who died on land, I have already explained it.

Lol, @ peacefullove come and see question.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Hell Fire Does Not Exist by Primesky(m): 1:36pm On Sep 11, 2018

Peacefullove:
Ignorance just like Primesky.

Pharaoh died in the Sea , he can't go to hell.

Read your Bible Rev 20 vs 13 . conscious in the Sea ?

Mr. Twister!. Stop behaving like you haven't been schooled about the subject. By the Help of the Holy Spirit, I educated you on the mystery, but as usual, instead of accepting it, you waved it aside as nonsense, and still maintain your ignorant posture.

When the sea and hell gave up their dead, where did they go?.

According to you and watch tower, when a man dies, everything about him is gone, his body rots away. For those who died in the sea, fish and crab would have eaten their flesh, so what is actually rising?.

You people always latch on a verse of scripture to perpetuate lies and false teaching.

Tell us why Jesus Christ warned about hell and mentioned fire, and also said it's unquenchable?.
Don't twist it o.

Deuteronomy 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

You said hell is grave, so according to the above scripture, does grave have a lowest and upper level. In this part of the world, we dig up to 6feets, is that the lowest hell?. grin

Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mark 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

James 3:6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

So tell us, is the fire attached to hell in the above verses a figure of speech, what figure of speech is hell fire?.

Again I ask you, after the death of Jesus Christ, he was buried. So how come a dead and buried person will also be preaching to spirits in prison?.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Please be honorable enough to tell us what verse 20 is talking about. Whose spirits is that passage talking about that Jesus Christ went to preach to, and where?.

Christianity Etc › Re: Know Ye Not That Atheism Is Within You. by Primesky(m): 1:23pm On Sep 11, 2018

LordReed:
So the fact that someone is always disgusted by the smell of shit implies the person would love to eat shit? LoLz! See logic.

Please what is the sense and logic in your post?. Can you read it again and make sure you understand what you typed?, I think you might have made some logical errors, Or otherwise educate me. No offence intended.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are These Not Antichrist?! by Primesky(op): 1:19pm On Sep 11, 2018

budaatum:
God must be doing it's job then because I fear no evil as it is, even as I walk in the valley of the shadow of death itself. And my lack of fear doesn't appear on any "lord lord" on my part. Yet, here is you, in fear of death despite "lord lording" it all over the place!

I would invite you to take the olive branch Primesky, but you will see "Twisting and misquoting" instead of olives since it appears that mud that has been spat on has not been rubbed in your eye so that you may see the fruits and know. But verily verily I say unto you that the day will surely come when your knees will bow and you will say, "buda said so"!

Let God be true and every man a liar!. You will one day see the power of God, and you will VOLUNTARILY bow down and worship Him. Even though the devil and his colleagues have been kicked out, they still fear, respect and worship Him. Who then are you oh mortal man?
Do not despise the patience and love of God!.

Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

One day, Buds will prostrate before the almighty God, and reverentially worship Him. I only pray you do it as a son and not as a conquered enemy. As for the did, you will surely do it!.

Jesus Christ is the only way. With out Jesus Christ, no life. Repent and be saved.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Hell Fire Does Not Exist by Primesky(m): 1:00pm On Sep 11, 2018

Hairyrapunzel:

At the end of the day you are arguing from silence.
You just assumed that pharaoh died in sea, he can't go to hell.

Last last na assumption you just assume

Peacefullove, why have you refused to answer the questions I asked you?. Answer it, so that there will be no more assumptions. Stop dodging it.

Here it is again!.

1. Who or what is a spirit?. Tell us.

2. Then tell us the house Jesus entered when He came down in 1914?.

3. Yes, also please tell us, is the Holy communion a pegan ceremony, that warrant your refusing it?.

4. Please tell us how Jesus Christ rose up again, spiritually or bodily?.

Christianity Etc › Re: God’s Kingdom, The Only Lasting Solution To Mankind’s Problems-I by Primesky(m): 12:58pm On Sep 11, 2018

[quote author=Restroom post=71055348[/quote]Hmm.. So much write up. I will only focus on key points.

First of all, the earth and the heavens will be literally destroyed, and faced out. That's what the bible said, and I think it will be nice to stick to that, rather than what watch tower thinks. Don't try to twist it by assuming it's symbolic, because it's not. Look at the verses below.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

2 Peter 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Psalms 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

102:26 They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed:

Don't confuse the 1000 years rule of Jesus Christ on earth as the everlasting kingdom, because it's not. A whole lot more will happen before everything is finally destroyed, but never accept the falsehood that the redeemed will live forever on this earth, never!. A new earth directly from heaven will decend into place. But the redeemed are going to be in heaven first!.

Secondly, I have shown you clearly that not only 144,000 people will go to heaven. Those are people from Israel alone, sealed by the election of grace. But there are others from all over the world, who will also be in heaven by the merit of the cross of Jesus Christ. These people too will rule. The position of anybody in the coming kingdom will be based on how faithful you were with the little giving to you here on earth. God doesn't play partiality. As a matter of fact, the twelve disciples will be the ones judging the twelve tribes of Israel then.

Matthew 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?
19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Beside the 144,000 Israelites sealed, who were standing before the throne of God, there were uncountable multitude of other people from all over the world also standing before the same throne of God in heaven!. Now, I ask you, watch tower says only 144, 000 will go to heaven, how did this uncountable multitude get there and what are they doing along side the 144,000?.

Again, Jesus gave us a clue here.

Matthew 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Can you now see that people other than the Israelites will make it to heaven as well?. Please, stop believing the lies of Watch Tower. Come out of them and receive Christ. I make this plea with respect, it's not an insult, but that organization is Antichrist in nature.

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