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This Match Reminded me of the Bayern Match. Most People Would Blame the Coach(He deserves it) but a greater blame should be laid at Messi, Iniesta, Busquets, Roberto and The Useless Gomes.

You can't do anything as a coach when your players aren't even arsed to Trackback when they lose the ball. It Simply Means they aren't willing to fight for the Coach. I don't see Enrique extending his Contract as he doesn't seem to have a firm control of the dressing room.

Most People Keep Hailing Messi, But he has been The Reason of Our Downfall Recently imagine just strolling in Midfield when you lose the ball in a dangerous area? Would really love if we get dembele(dortmund) as there doesn't seem to be any real threat to the MSN.

At least we can focus on the League Now?.

lakesidepapa:
U don't even have the gut to engage E-war with me, Oponu, Omo ode.

Sympathy? Awee, Get lost.

Quite Ironic that you are the One who brought the Issue of People lacking Home Training. You Clearly Lack Courtesy.

Now get Off my Mention troll.

lakesidepapa:
Yes, that was a dumb and stu*pid mention frm u. There's lot of related posts here, so why did u single out mine?

Pls don't try me.!

Would Make this Pass, but If you are looking for an E-war I sure as hell wouldn't back down.

The Next time you are about to make a derogatory comment do not Put Please, Are you trying to earn sympathy?

lakesidepapa:
That's jst the bitter truth. Btw do I ever or even quote u??

So, I shouldn't have quoted you?. This a Social Forum Please.

lakesidepapa:
There will always be some deep differences between people who are properly brought up and those who are not. you very polite, good and lively.

Please Stop re-quoting those who will not have any good opinion for the betterment of thread than to throw jab, you don't deserve it.

No need for those Comments.

safarigirl:
but does the fact that one is a Nigerian great not make him an entity in football?

If FIFA were to make a list of Top 5 greatest achievers in football in each country and Mikel's name enters such a list, does that not make him am entity?

It's okay for someone to say "Mikel is not world class" or "Mikel is unimportant in world football" (which could even spark an argument", but saying Mikel is a nonentity in football is flawed. He is an entity in Nigeria and Africa, we are part of the world, so by extension, if you mention world football, Mikel will make up the list of entities

Name a player who currently plays for a Nigerian team. What's the first name likely to pop into the head of most people of the world?

You make some Compelling Points but that's why I said in Larger Scheme of Football.

He is a Nigeria Great no doubt about that, but Sir Goodjoe and Sir Supernerd are trying to Make it seem laughable that Anyone wouldn't think Mikel is a World Class ,Where reversed should be the Case.

IMO and I think this is the Concesus , that Mikel is a top player and Not a World Class, if ya think otherwise that's fine.

TheGoodJoe:
Stop exonerating yourself from this. You are the one who stooped so low as calling a true hero of our Jersey a Nonentity. Yet You are trying to take the high moral ground. You are at fault here and not safarigirl. Yes, I did not like her reply but such statement from you is as low as any insult can get.

I have to disagree with you here, this is football we are allowed to have a view on a Player, It would Surprise you that Calling Mikel a World Class Player would be taken as an Insult to actual world Class player and people who actually follow the game.

Him saying Mikel is a Non-entity in footballing scheme is not actually as bad as you make it Look. He Might be a Nigerian great but he hasn't achieved anything of note to be discussed in the larger scheme of football.

For those of You saying A world Class Player has to be consistent for 6-7 years what does that Make Griezmann?

Kante is a World Class Player IMO, for those saying he hasn't done it in the Champions League , You can Only beat what's in front of You. I am sure Kante would do well in UCL if he doesn't I would retract my statements.

TheSuperNerd:
It is not fake.... But let's say it is. In fact, let's forget iniesta....

But dispute the words of Carlo Ancelloti... A far greater figure in the game than Iniesta.

What do you expect a Players Manager to say? If Mikel was that good why didn't Ancelloti take him to Madrid and Psg?

TheGoodJoe:


Did Owen Hargreaves play at a top level for a long period of time?

He Was a top Player at Bayern before moving to Manchester. Won the UCL with Bayern and Manchester but that doesn't make him World Class.

TheSuperNerd:
When you spoke earlier, you said, you don't like to argue much....

Going against your code huh?? I see...

Ah well.... Firstly, you made so many assumptions when you walked in here.... You quoted my reply to you and started spilling about me among the people who say cameroun will be a cake-walk and that Cameroun is weak or so..... Berra fix that.


About Mikel.... All your epistles changes NOTHING. SO JUST REST....

Do you know more than Guus Hiddink? Or Roberto di matteo? Or Iniesta? Do you?

Di matteo . Stop Mentioning Iniesta Please , the quote has been debunked as fake.

daveP:
Right glad I'm I that our brain frequencies, wavelengths now are at par on what my aim what.


Tell me how else this isn't a way to prove he is world class.


Le prof just called Cech, Ospina and Emiliano Martinez, his trio of GKs, world class. Well since this is a stretch of a discussion, I'll allow to rest and appreciate Ndidi's screamer.



Tell Ahmed Musa to wake up. He is proving he isn't world class

Why we are at it then, Hagreaeves won the PL and UCL with Man United is he a world Class Player?

TheSuperNerd:
I thought his wife said "for better and for WORSE".....

Well, Don't worry Sir GoodJoe.. I will take him to the finest hospitals I know and have his face fixed again before he returns home. I am kind like that..... That's the benefits of getting into the ring with me coz I hardly get into the Ring.... Not when legends like You, Sir TheGoodJoe are around....

Be Making Mouth there . Do ya know I boxed professionally sha

daveP:
laughable.



Then why bring Eto up when you know exactly what. My pov is?

You mean your PoV is you creating a scenario where Only Mikel Emerges the Winner? Doesn't work like that.

TheGoodJoe:

Essien was back. We are talking of time running out, Chelsea leading the best playing club side in football history and Belletti was not in position to help defend. That is what defending in numbers bring. A cover for mistakes. If Mikel was on that field at that time, he would concentrate on seeing out the game by shielding the defence.

There is no way to be sure, we have seen Mourinho bring Mikel on late to secure a Victory and later draws the Match. Happened recently with Fellaini too.

TheSuperNerd:
Me?? Rubbing ya cheeks?? For what kwanu?? Am I gay??

Mehn... Maybe it's because your nerve endings have been totally compromised in your facial region but these are the punches I gave you.....

https://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/161/626/falcon-punch.jpg

And this...

https://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/embed/public/2012/04/30/268978-lavarn-harvell-knockout-punch-smashes-tony-pietrantonio-s-face-in-temp.jpg

forgiveness:
Oga, Kante has not achieved anything yet compared with Mikel. Believe it. Without Mikel, Chelsea defensive formation prior to the UCL victory would have been breached.

Nobody is doubting Mikels achievements but Kante is a different beast to Him and he has a higher Ceiling.

kingphilip:
Did mikel actually played in that 1-1 encounter??

I can vividly remember he was on the bench and when Essien scored, he ran to Mikel to celebrate the goal..

Unless he came in as a sub if not I'm not sure he played

Yeah My bad

TheSuperNerd:
**did you see the punch I landed just now?**

Sorry ya hit like a Lady . Thought ya were rubbing my cheeks

TheSuperNerd:
**swings my gloves at his left cheek**


And about "world class", Iniesta agrees with me...... (but so also does the records and stats and achievements of mikel's career)

Also... Please don't water down that game at camp nou... It is one of Mikel's greatest nights biko....

Sir Joseph Post suggest Otherwise.

Even Cleverly was MoTm(bar Rooney) against Arsenal . He made Almighty Arsenal look shit so he is a World Class Player

TheSuperNerd:
**picks up gloves again... Ehen... Yara Yara pls where were we? Okay we quoted Princesuko on that issue last ba? Okay.... Ehmm... Sir Joseph have finished displaying his graphic skills ba? Okay... **looks around**

It wouldn't hurt you, if ya Just proclaim that You made a Wrong Judgement and Say Mikel Is Not a World Class Player.

Let's Put this Ridiculous Claims to Bed

TheSuperNerd:
I hope you know Mikel floored Yaya Toure in that Camp nou match in midfield....

I remember that game so well. Mikel was everywhere in midfield in the holding role that day. He stifled the usual influence of the Barca midfield marvels...

Our argument was about Whether Mikel was World Class not whether he was good in a Match.

TheSuperNerd:
because Essien scored in the 1-1 game?

Besides... I didn't speak of that stamford bridge game emphatically. I spoke specifically of the camp nou game of 0-0 (the first leg). Read my posts again.

Chec the ratings of that Match Essien was Splendid. He was specifically driven forward to outmuscle Busquets, ballack protected the back 4 that Night instead of Essien.

TheGoodJoe:

Mikel did not play in the 1-1 game against Barcelona. He was on the bench. When Essien scored the goal, he ran to hug Mikel on the bench. Hiddink made a big error leaving Mikel out of the game, after Mikel's brilliant performance in the first leg against Barcelona. Mikel was a torn in Iniesta's flesh in the first game. Essien got some sticks for missing the clearance which landed the ball at Iniesta's feet but Hiddink bringing in Belletti instead of Mikel to secure the goal was the main error. Belletti was not disciplined to shield the defence and help Essien.

Seems I Mixed-Up the Scenarios but My Point still Stands. The First Leg when Mikel was playing, Barça tore Chelsea a new one, they Could have Won 4-0 and Nobody would blink an eye.

I don't seem to remember vivid details of the match but I thought Belleti was covering for the Full backs especially Cole who was always out Messi. The blame should go to Essien not Belleti.

joseph1013:
Actually, I'm not saying he did not say it. He could have. I just haven't seen it and I know anybody could have created it if he didn't say it.

That was all I needed, . I had started doubting Myself

TheSuperNerd:
Sir Princesuko.... I would have you know Iniesta said this after Mikel's virtuoso performances for Chelsea when he came up against Barca in 2010/11 (or was 2008/09) UCL and 2011/2012 UCL....

Mikel destroyed their midfield under hiddink at camp nou before iniesta's goal at stamford bridge knocked them out en route to barca's UCL win (I keep mixing the years.. Was it 2008/2009 or 2010/2011). That was in the semis...

Then again in 2012 (2011/2012... Mikel was key in frustrating and dominating barca's midfield en route to Chelsea's UCL win in 2012. And repeated same in the final against Bayern where he was MOTM.

That is Iniesta's official twitter account and spanish is the language. What is there to doubt again just because you wanna stand on a stong ground saying Mikel is not world class?

I think Sir Joseph just voided the Quotes. Essien Played better than Mikel in that 1-1 match although he was to blame for the equalizer.

There have been Numerous times where most Nigerians have said Mikel should be dropped from the S.E through the Years, I would make a bold Claim that even you at One point shared that Opinion.

TheGoodJoe:

How can the goal be more important than a shield who prevented Barcelona from white washing Chelsea. If Barcelona scored four or five goals, will that goal become so valuable?

Without that goal Barça would have won Comfortably, Chelsea defended as a team, it was not as if Mikel was playing like Kante.

You forgot with your "shield" they were 2-0 down. Mikel is No Kante Please.

joseph1013:
You will shocked at how many fake twitter generators there are online. Fake WhatsApp Chat Generator as well. See what I just created using your comment:

Thanks For Clarifying . The I wish I was half the bit of player he was put me off that a Chelsea troll created it.

TheSuperNerd:
Cc.... Sir Prinesuko.....


And Sir Joseph1013.... I too have seen that... it was a couple of years ago iniesta made that comment.... or is that not Iniesta's official twitter account again?

There is No way to be sure, There would have been more Coverage of it if he had truly said it, The half a player bit sounds like what a Chelsea troll will say.

TheSuperNerd:
https://owngoalnigeria.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/image-20-300x156.jpg

bykebyke can you Confirm this quote for me?

TheSuperNerd:
https://owngoalnigeria.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/image-20-300x156.jpg

Still doesn't Prove anything. There is no way to know if the Translation is correct.

tbaba1234:
...

You do know that that Translation is wrong? . Show a translation from Google Translate or Provide a Reputable link, there is No way Iniesta says that and it doesn't gather More Coverage.