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PoliticsRe: Geoffrey Onyeama Condemns Demolition At Nigeria's High Commission In Accra by proeast(m): 2:40pm On Jun 21, 2020
Masterkernel1:
I don't know why Nigerians keep deceiving themselves, what can you do to Ghana? Outside military strength borne out of numbers, where's Nigeria better than Ghana?
Nigeria can actually hit Ghana where it hurts without even going the military route. We can force them to pay for the accumulated money they are owing us.

We can cut off gas supplies to them. We can cut off all trade deals or transactions with them and close our borders with them indefinitely.
PoliticsRe: Geoffrey Onyeama Condemns Demolition At Nigeria's High Commission In Accra by proeast(m): 2:16pm On Jun 21, 2020
Really!?
As in these guys went into the premises of Nigeria's high commission in Ghana and demolished its residential buildingshuh

To any decent country, this alone is an act of war and requires immediate retaliation and deplomatic aggressiveness. Any embassy or high commission is regarded as that country's home ground and is always respected by the host country. Why would Ghana assault, insult and denigrate Nigeria like this? Is it because they've discovered there is a power vacuum in Nigeria or what??

Lord have mercy, if these guys fail to retaliate one way or another, then no country again would regard or respect Nigeria.

SHAME!!!
TravelRe: Beautiful Pictures Of Abeokuta, Ogun State That Will Make You Love The City by proeast(m): 9:47am On Jun 21, 2020
enehvictor:
Abeokuta is like a very big village as shown in this thread. Such a disjointed, disorganized, red mud and untarred roads everywhere. This is shameful
Honestly, I'm totally disappointed if this is all Ogun have got despite all it's gaining from Lagos?

There is nothing spectacular about these pictures here and it's such a shame that people are celebrating such mediocrity in this modern times.

There governors both past and present should cover their faces in shame for failing to leverage all the opportunities Lagos is providing them on a platter of gold.
TravelRe: Beautiful Pictures Of Abeokuta, Ogun State That Will Make You Love The City by proeast(m): 9:25am On Jun 21, 2020
scholes0:
And Anambra is benefiting from being the entry point into Eastern Nigeria for basically every good and service.
And Kaduna s benefiting from being gateway from Abuja into the North
And 6 SS states are benefiting from being massive oil producers
And Kano is benefiting from Northern commerce
Before you know it, the whole of Nigeria will end up supposedly benefiting from something.

As for Imo there is nothing there (No industry, no commerce, no innovation no tier 1 city). Imo is a civil service state as such they have decided to focus on their schooling..... even though there is still no tertiary educational institution of note there.

Yes Ogun state is No2 in HDI and it is funny that you suggest I do not know the diffference between FDI and HDI
You just ended up confusing yourself. Now, allow me to school you. Human capital development is an offshoot of educational enrollment. Without having a high enrollment rate you can't talk about having a developed human capital. Based on that fact, can you compare primary, secondary and university enrollment figures between Imo and Anambra states with Ogun state?

Without Ogun being close to Lagos, it would have been as re.tarded as other SW states. Even from the pictures you're posting here, it goes to show that Ogun is still backward.

So, these are pictures of the best places you have in Abeokutahuhhuh

Damn it, Aba looks far more beautiful and advanced than this!

Abakilike has better infrastructure than this!

I just used these two cities which are by no means the best we have in the SE. I didn't mention Enugu, Owerri or Onitsha because that will amount to an overkill.

Truly speaking, Lagos really helped you guys to cover a lot of things and without Lagos, SW would most likely be worse than NE. If we have anything like Lagos close to the SE, I bet you we would be far ahead of any region in Nigeria.
TravelRe: Beautiful Pictures Of Abeokuta, Ogun State That Will Make You Love The City by proeast(m): 8:04am On Jun 21, 2020
Bla bla bla. Stop peddling lies here. When did Ogun become the state with the second highest human capital development? I ask you again?

How did you arrive at that?
TravelRe: Beautiful Pictures Of Abeokuta, Ogun State That Will Make You Love The City by proeast(m): 8:02am On Jun 21, 2020
scholes0:
Sorry, but both Imo and Anambra are not powerhouses of any kind.
And they are both behind ogun in HDI
I'm not arguing about FDI, everyone knows that Ogun is benefiting from its close proximity to Lagos. I'm talking about your claims of Ogun being the state with the second highest human development index, or don't you know the difference?
TravelRe: Beautiful Pictures Of Abeokuta, Ogun State That Will Make You Love The City by proeast(m): 7:56am On Jun 21, 2020
scholes0:
Ogun state is unique among the states in the federal republic of Nigeria. It has the second highest HDI (Human development Index) in Nigeria after Lagos and unlike its contemporaries across the country, it is replete with several large and mostly developed cities spread across the state apart from the capital city. These include urban centres such as Shagamu, Ota, ilaro, Ijebu ode, Agbara among others. The state has a large population and is host to many industries and business ventures. It is basically Nigeria's emerging Trade and Industry hub after Lagos. That apart, it has some of Nigeria's best secondary and tertiary educational institutions.
This thread brings you images from the state capital Abeokuta that you most likely have not come across before in a way you have never seen it presented before.
Enjoy!
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You don't have to start your thread with cheap lies. When did Ogun state become the state with the second highest human development index in Nigeria? Where then do you put the powerhouses of human development in Nigeria i.e. Imo and Anambra states?

You guys have come again o, but the era of propaganda and lies are over and we are to ensure that no one is decieved again.
PoliticsRe: Few Pics From Imo State by proeast(m): 7:17am On Jun 21, 2020
Yampotatocarrot:
Can you just imagine this. A whole governor will do that all for the glams. So basically the reason why he was desperate for his son-in-law to succeed was so that all these could be hidden from the public eyes.

Sincerely, I had great hopes that Rochas would perform, I just don't know where he started losing it or what made him lose it.
To be honest with you, I used to like Rochas too until he ruled Imo state.
He still has his good attributes such as being bold and courageous as well as thinking ahead but his greatest undoing is greed, covetiousness and a penchant to scam.

The good things he did in Imo state which only someone with balls could do was the relocation of the two markets i.e. Eke Ukwu Owerri and New Market despite the opposition against it and the widening of some roads among others. However, he undermined himself by doing mostly shoddy and very poor quality jobs. He wanted to do more for less while pocketing the money but he forgot that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction to it.

It is a crime against ndi Imo to award roads amounting to billions of naira only for same roads to fail within a year.

It is a crime against ndi Imo to build substandard structures costing billions of naira and without completing them but only to turn them into white elephant projects.

Igbos or Imolites are not stvpid, no one would be calling him out or criticizing him if he performed excellently. Since he knew he would be aiming for a higher office, why didn't he go all out to do great works in Imo state and use it advertise himself instead of trying to pull wool over our eyes?

Look at Ebonyi state, the governor there has a penchant for supporting Buhari despite his obvious wicked acts against Igbos which makes many angry but it does not stop us from appreciating his great strides in Ebonyi state.

Igbos did not just become angry and always criticize Rochas because he is in APC or was against GEJ reelection but mainly because of how he ended his governance in Imo state.

This is the internet age and news and information travels at the speed of light. He missed the opportunity to use Imo state to advertise himself.
PoliticsRe: Isa Pantami Shed Tears Over Killings In Northern Nigeria by proeast(m): 10:09pm On Jun 20, 2020
Crocodile tears.
PoliticsRe: Few Pics From Imo State by proeast(m): 9:21pm On Jun 20, 2020
Abagworo:
Any road constructed by Okorocha scrapped and reconstructed again was deliberate as they weren't bad when he left. Example is Akachi road built from the scratch and was good before being scrapped. Good enough only one side was scrapped and the 2nd side will serve as a witness. The same with the road at Freedom Square also scrapped one side only before Uzodinma came and repaired that lane. The videos are there with dates including campaign videos of then opposition.

Government is meant to be a continuity of programs before a noticeable development is achieved not destruction and vendetta as Ihedioha did upon take over. That's the reason I supported Uche Nwosu to succeed Okorocha even though I found it wrong based on zoning arrangement. True to God if he was the Governor all these talks wouldn't be our topic today. The Hospitals completed by Okorocha wouldn't have been vandalized, the Government House wouldn't have been vandalized, unnecessary roads wouldn't have been scrapped, the beautiful streetlights in Owerri would have still been there and functional, he would have maintained Okorocha's legacy and continued with building of schools as well. The RAMP project attracted by Okorocha with funds secured would have been working on rural roads, there would still have been freedom of speech without molestation, the Police would have moved to the brand new headquarters while the former Police headquarters is demolished and sold to estate developers, same with the new prison and Judiciary. Uzodinma succeeded in moving the Judiciary headquarters but by the time he came on board the Police headquarters had already been vandalized, Somto Hospital vandalized, Ochiedike diagnostic center vandalized, Mother and Child Hospital vandalized and so on.

Okorocha is like Amaechi of Imo State. He was visionary and set goals that would outlive his tenure but the recent slowdown stems from politics if 2023 which made Tinubu et al use propaganda and project victimization to fight him because they knew he fell out with Igbo brothers for supporting Buhari against Jonathan whom Igbos preferred.
I agree with you that governance is a continuum and PDP government of Ihedioha weren't completely blameless. However, nobody would scrap a road that is in good condition. The portions of Akachi road that were scraped was already bad before it was scrapped, I'm aware of that because I often drive through it. The hospitals you are saying were vandalized weren't completed to start with. I was at that hospital the day Osinbajo was invited to commission it. A day to the date, some equipment and decorations were hurriedly brought in from that Al In mall along Aba road rumoured to be owned by Nkechi Okorocha. The back of the hospital and many sections of it were still uncompleted yet it was commissioned with a crested sign board that named it Rochas free mother and child hospital. Immediately the dignitaries that came to commission it left, all the equipment and decorations that were brought in were all returned and the place was empty. So what exactly was vandalized?

I also agree with you that if Uche Nwosu was made the governor that he would have covered up on all these things but why would a governor scam his people?
PoliticsRe: Abia State Development Thread- PICTURES by proeast(m): 8:38pm On Jun 20, 2020
post=90890053:
Aba
Only two cities in Nigeria have this unique concentration of highrise buildings i.e. Aba and Onitsha. If only Nigeria has stable power supply, these two cities would have more number of skyscrapers than Lagos and Abuja.
PoliticsRe: Few Pics From Imo State by proeast(m): 8:25pm On Jun 20, 2020
SmartPolician:
You call those bunch of structures hospitals?

Take it or leave it, Rochas knows zilch about leadership. He lacks planning and administrative skills. The fact is, he's just one loquacious clown.

He just wakes up and starts executing projects without carrying out a proper feasibility study.

You are more interested in the number of staffers they will employ, but you didn't consider if they are viable in the first place - given that they are sited in rural communities.

Can people who live in those communities afford their services?

Can the funds they generate be enough to maintain those huge structures, pay bills and pay staff salaries?

These are questions I am certain Rochas could not answer before embarking on the wild goose chase.

Notice that cottage hospitals are often built for rural communities while general hospitals are sited in the heart of town for a reason.

@Abagworo, first of fall, I didn't insult you. You should read what I wrote earlier. This time, do it slowly. Second of all, Rochas is your boss!
I feel sad each time I go to the former old market to fix my car. The so called hospital has been overgrown with weeds and structure now harbours miscreants who hide inside it to smoke weed. The same thing is happening at the former old market where another so called hospital is rotting away and to think that these things cost billions of naira can make one want to go crazy.
PoliticsRe: Few Pics From Imo State by proeast(m): 8:17pm On Jun 20, 2020
Yampotatocarrot:
From what we heard, Rochas constructed those roads or are you telling us he was just patching them every year for 8 years?

A well constructed road doesn't need to be "maintained" by tarring every year. If such happens, that means the construction company did a bad job in the first place.

The truth is, if Hope Uzodinma is still constructing road all over Owerri after all the roads Rochas constructed, then let's agree to disagree that the construction companies that did the job for Rochas did a very bad job.

As for those currently rooting for Uzodinma, hope you won't also come back years later to tell us all these roads we are seeing are just "maintenance" and not road construction
Don't let anyone decieve you. Most of the roads being worked again were earlier awarded and "constructed" during Rochas tenure. Wetheral road, Umezuirike road, Douglas road etc yet all these roads are being scrapped and reconstructed again.

It would have been better if Rochas did only a couple of standard roads that would last instead of wasting Imo state resources.
PoliticsRe: Abia State Development Thread- PICTURES by proeast(m): 7:48pm On Jun 20, 2020
raker300:
Abia is a site to behold
Your camera is not good enough and that's quite sad cry
PoliticsRe: Abia State Development Thread- PICTURES by proeast(m): 7:39pm On Jun 20, 2020
Op, if you know you can't get nice pictures of cool areas in Aba then don't bother. Where is Ebemma street? Waterside with Enyimba hotel? River layout? Azikiwe road? Asa road by Ochiriozuo house? CKC? Factory road? Park road before the main park? Aba Owerri road by Living Word? Aba Owerri road by Tonimas? All those built up areas high rises all over main town among several other nice areas?

You guys always fail to justice to the nice areas in Aba. Government has failed Aba but the city is not as terrible as it is being steorotyped in the media.
PoliticsRe: Abia State Development Thread- PICTURES by proeast(m): 7:37pm On Jun 20, 2020
Aba is punching below its weight due to bad leadership. Aba used to be a regional powerhouse but is now a shadow of its former self.
PoliticsRe: History Of Etche People In Rivers State. by proeast(m): 5:19pm On Jun 20, 2020
Most people have myths and legends, these are stories that are told to children at bedtime. It doesn't change facts.
PoliticsRe: What Is The Way Forward In View Of What Is Happening In The North? by proeast(op): 4:45pm On Jun 20, 2020
Why don't we as Nigerians act as normal human beings and do the right thing which is to totally restructure this country or completely balkanize it?

Nigeria is currently being raped and abused by all and sundry because no one actually believes in it.

If Arewa people knows that the North is their own, they will protect it by all means. They will either fight Boko Haram passionately or allow them to control their affairs and ultimately there would be peace at the end and they will live accordingly.

If Igbos know that Biafra is all they've got, they will not allow any politician to embezzle state funds. They will chase out corrupt politicians without having to wait for Abuja. They will not allow the sort of robbery that took place in Imo state to happen. Votes will count and ultimately politicians will have no choice but to work or be chased out.

If Yorubas know that Oduduwa is all they've got, they will ensure that their country develops fast. The same Awolowo spirit in the first republic will push them to want to be ahead.

Why do we keep behaving like fools and suffering unnecessarily when we can actually live better lives!!?
PoliticsRe: What Is The Way Forward In View Of What Is Happening In The North? by proeast(op): 4:27pm On Jun 20, 2020
Today, most graduates have lost hope of ever becoming meaningfully employed. You see many of our youths frustrated, even the few that get work end up being paid 25k monthly!

You see millions jostling for N-power, so they can earn peanuts.

Men in their 30's are not even thinking of settling down. Of course, not because they like barchelorhood but because Nigeria has failed them. Are they going to get married while earning 25k? Can that afford a wedding? Can it afford accommodation? Can it even feed them talk more of feeding extra mouths?
PoliticsRe: What Is The Way Forward In View Of What Is Happening In The North? by proeast(op): 4:20pm On Jun 20, 2020
In the 1970's, how many countries in Africa can compare with Nigeria?

Even South East Asian countries were behind us but fast forward today, not only has all other nations in SE Asia left us far behind, even fellow African countries too are widening their gap on us. And if things continue at this pace, we will soon be so ashamed to identify ourselves as Nigerians abroad.
PoliticsRe: What Is The Way Forward In View Of What Is Happening In The North? by proeast(op): 4:13pm On Jun 20, 2020
When we were kids in the early 1990's, I used to remember our parents telling us how things were so good during the 1970's and I would be wondering why things would be so good then only to become bad now. However, recent events in Nigeria have proven that assertion true i.e. the more the years go by, the more we continue to sink down the abyss.

Only a few years ago, prior to 2015, Nigeria was a little manageable but at the moment, everything has deteriorated badly.

Most graduate leaving our universities are going back to their parents houses. Some who still have bouyant parents will further their education to masters level just to extend the dooms day of facing a reality of no jobs. However, they will still ultimately go back to doing petty stuffs like selling items on social media, looking for any means to travel out, even if it means going to Ghana, or even indulging in criminal activities like Yahoo, ritual, kidnapping or prostitution by the females.

If you think Nigeria is terrible now, then wait for 5, 10 or 20 years from now and you will see worse and unimaginable crises.
Foreign AffairsRe: Yoruba In Benin Republic Protest, Call For Independence by proeast(m): 12:08pm On Jun 20, 2020
Sammy07:
Show me any of the Yoruba comments where they claim to be majority in Benin republic
Go through the report and stop asking me JAMB question.
Foreign AffairsRe: Yoruba In Benin Republic Protest, Call For Independence by proeast(m): 12:07pm On Jun 20, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
allow them to dey mumu
These people just tire me I swear cry
Foreign AffairsRe: Yoruba In Benin Republic Protest, Call For Independence by proeast(m): 11:48am On Jun 20, 2020
You only account for 12% of the population while the Fon constitute 39% of the population yet the Yorubas there are claiming to be the majority. Are they bringing their usual propaganda to Benin republic.
PoliticsRe: EXCLUSIVE: Okonjo-Iweala still eligible to run for office of DG, says WTO by proeast(m): 11:43am On Jun 20, 2020
Amotolongbo:
What is happening in AU is a very obvious handwriting of the Egyptians.
They see NOI posing a very great threat to the emergence of their candidate.
Since the Asian, Australiasia and Southern American continents have no candidate presented, we can lobby them to our side.
From the CV of the other contestants, it is obvious why Egypt is afraid of Ngozi Okonjo Iweala being in the race. She has not just experience on her side but global popularity. There is no doubt that the rest of Sub Saharan Africa will support her while her connections on the global arena will no doubt dwarf whatever the Egyptian candidate has.
PoliticsRe: EXCLUSIVE: Okonjo-Iweala still eligible to run for office of DG, says WTO by proeast(m): 11:36am On Jun 20, 2020
Shame on Egypt!
Bigger shame on AU!!

The Egyptians are afraid of competing against a superior candidate.
PoliticsRe: Thousands Of Protesters Call For Resignation Of Mali President by proeast(m): 10:41am On Jun 20, 2020
Lol, just imagine! Yet Nigerians that are having it far worse are still sleeping cry
PoliticsRe: What Is The Way Forward In View Of What Is Happening In The North? by proeast(op): 10:30am On Jun 20, 2020
gartamanta:
The North cannot be saved, they have long passed that point. A combination of feudal mindset, Islamic fundamentalism and backwardness has rendered that area an eternal war zone. So those in the south must face the decision. Do you want to be in the same country with those who will forever drag you down or do you seek a seperate country where you can develop your self without such distractions?

This is a question people like Ojukwu, Nnamdi Kanu, Ralph Uwazurike and others asked themselves and reached a decision on many years ago. Remarkably, it is those in the South that will still join the North to fight these men so that the entire south can be dragged down with the North
I do agree with you that the North can't be saved now. Trying to do so would take so many years and trillions of dollars which we just can't afford.

Official data states that there are over 10 million out of school children roaming the streets (although the actual number is obviously way higher) and when we factor in that millions of such idle children that lacked love while growing up, had no education, had no skill and had no future had been growing into adults over the years then how do we expect peace and prosperity?

How do we expect Boko Haram to end when they have an endless pool to draw supplies from?

The situation has really become critical and something needs to be done right now!
PoliticsWhat Is The Way Forward In View Of What Is Happening In The North? by proeast(op): 10:03am On Jun 20, 2020
For over ten years now, the North has been battling with serious crises of civil war proportions. What started in Borno state as insurgency has snowballed into a two-pronged conflagration i.e. fulani herdsmen and Boko Haram that is decimating the region like wildfire. At the last count, almost the entire NE and most parts of NW and NC are now recording deaths and destruction on a daily basis and there seems to be no end in sight.

GEJ was accused of having an antinorth agenda and when his former chief army staff in the person of Ihejirika began to make serious headway against Boko Haram, the same people at the receiving end of the crises mounted a campaign of calumny against him that he was killing their people, and he was removed.

At the moment, the federal government is spending billions of dollars in the so-called fight against insurgency, monies that would have been used in building roads, schools, hospitals and other sectors. To make matters worse, even the few arms and ammunition that are bought with what is left after embezzlement, would still end up either stolen or destroyed by Boko Haram and the circle continues.

I was shocked the other day to discover that many countries with little population including some African countries have bigger budgets than Nigeria yet a huge percentage of our small budget still goes into a phantom war without end against insurgency.

Nigeria is currently so backward that even by African standards, we are way behind. Look at our schools and colleges, hospitals, roads just name it and compare them with what is obtainable in other African countries like South Africa, Ghana, Egypt, Kenya, Rwanda, Morocco, Botswana etc. We all should be ashamed of our situation and hopeless future.

Are we going to remain docile instead of taking our destiny into our own hands? Are we going to continue fighting one another while the rest of the world leaves us behind?

Our population is estimated to be 200 million today and is growing rapidly while our national income keeps depreciating. We have now resorted to using borrowed loans to be financing our budgets that are largely recurrent, so what will happen to us in say 5 to 10 or 20 years from now?

If you are from Southern Nigeria and you are not seriously bothered at what is going on, then you are definitely living in a fool's paradise.

My people, winter is coming. So, what do we do to save our ourselves and future generations??
CrimeRe: Armed Bandits Surround Kasai In Katsina, Residents Trapped by proeast(m): 9:11am On Jun 20, 2020
The North has finally collapsed due to its terrible structural problem.

Nothing can save them, it is too late. With millions of brainwashed illiterates, poverty stricken and hopeless people roaming all over the region, then there is no end to all these.
BusinessRe: FG Mulls Unified Naira Exchange Rate Regime by proeast(m): 7:20pm On Jun 18, 2020
SpecialAgent:
Bros forget, we IMPORT VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY, When importing na dollars them dey use, they won't sell it to you any cheaper than it's value in naira. Ones dollar goes up, the price of even tomatoes goes up. About your 50k richer theory, once the inflation goes to high, the minimum wage has to be adjusted to reflect the realities on ground.

The tomotes I usually buy for 50 naira in 2016 is now valued at almost 200 naira. I usually buy direct from farmers.

The gain you are talking about is minimal, no be only you get the dollar
You're not getting it. Landlords don't increase rent annually, it can take up to five years in some instances before rents are increased.

Do government increase increase salary every year? It takes many years before government increases salary.

Do you buy imported commodities everyday? Like what and what? Do you buy things like cars, televisions, electronics, gadgets etc every month.

Basic things like food, clothing and shelter among others does not increase in price everyday, they take years to do so and that's enough time for dollar earners to accumulate profit.

However, someone earning in dollars is seeing increased earnings daily courtesy of higher exchange rate.

At worst, a dollar earner would see increase in income at a geometric rate while inflation would be at an arithmetic rate.

I have explained enough already but if you still want to believe otherwise, you're free to do so.

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