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Of course it takes maturity to "admire" a singular trait in something so dark and evil. And if you insist on waiting till they push you, then dont worry The northern states have started something on clamping down on Religious Preachings.

It so convenient to sit in the comfort of our homes and claim "One does not need to put thier life on the line because of religion". That's what we are doing now isnt it?. we are waiting for them to go through our neighbours before they get to our doors before we get up and do something.

I understand you every well, that space where you are is where a lot of us are - we sit and wait until it gets to us. As long as its far off, we need not worry, only when it gets near us should be start to even think of reacting. How convenient.

And yes someone has to devils advocate once in a while, we all cant sleep and face one direction. See its easy to castigate this dude, but while I DONT justifiy his actions at all, we need more people that are willing to sacrifice BUT for a just cause.

Thats the point

Memejem:
First of all who said I don't know the history of the atrocities were done by ancient Christian societies? Was that the topic we were discussing?

You were trying to play devils advocate here and it backfired. One does not need to put thier life on the line because of religion. You're taking this incident out of context. If the situation was different and peole were being hunted by the government based on religion as in the Holocaust you will see those who will not deny their faith and fight for ther right to religion. You will also see those who will choose to fight another day and run for safety.

THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE.

the man in question was not being hunted. His rights were not being infringed. He let semantics get in the way of his thought process and allowed his brain to be filled by the idealizations of fanatics. He chose to go to a war zone and fight a war and cause that did not necessarily involve him. He put himself in that situation.

If the will is strong anyone anybody can die what they are passionate about and is not limited to religion. Don't put Christians in a box and admire a terrorists willpower to die for his erroneous belief that infidels must die. You are doing a disservice to humankind.

You have to be more careful about how you phrase your thoughts and questions. Religion is not something you joke with. Especially when innocent people are dying because of the "faith" you admire so much in terrorists.

you probably missed the part where I said "Jesus's disciple where regarded as outlaws (perhaps terrorists) at there time, but of course the contrast is that they were galvanised by the Holy spirit and through prayers and the Good message won souls for God, unlike the death and destruction that a group like ISIS spreads"

Any besides my friend, you don't know your history to well either. Go read about the atrocoites that the early Christain Nations committed in the name of God - you might have a change of thought that we Christians might not have being so saintly at all. I am a christain and a very strong one at that, but my point is simple. Are we willing to travel miles to go die for what we believe in?. simple. I am not asking if the guy in question died for a good reason or not., that's left to him and his god. And my illustrations are the pointer to the fact that Jesus' disciples did a similar thing but ofcourse without the arms and swords.

Please try to understand my view on the issue. Its a Challenge to those of us that are Christains, myself inclusive. Or is our faith the one that doesnt die for what its believes in.

Memejem:
Your reasoning is not sound. Jesus' disciples were not out there bombing people, sliting throats and forcing people into a lifestyle they did not want to live. They didn't kill anyone using God as a reason. Yes some were seen as outlaws but that is not the same as being labelled a terrorist. Thier message was not passed through violence.

Where in the Bible does it state that the disciplines dragged their families with them to follow Jesus? Didn't you just state they left thier family behind? Your thought process is jagged.

Also I don't know why you think that missionaries are going out to war. Just because you travel to spread the word of God does not mean you will be killed. Though there are some places in the world that will be against accepting a missionary's preachings that does not mean they will face death and not return home.

Missionaries exist today and if you look hard enough you will find them. This is a different time, you don't need to isolate yourself and suffer harshly to spread the word of God.

The fight by the Crusaders was more of a political war than a religious war, because Jerusalem had changed hands so many times between the Christains and Muslims before the final onslaught. Now that's a political war. You and I would gladly fight such battles

But I put it to you, would you leave your life behind to fight for Xtain brothers and sisters confronting Boko Haram in Chibok?


I am sure you would do that if your kinsmen or men from your tribe are being killed, but would you do that for brothers and sisters of another tribe just because they are Christians. That's what that brain washed dude that went to ISIS did.

I know what I am saying, and the reasons I'm reiterating is exactly why Christianity has become a Joke at this present age. its all about our self, our families, our church and our tribe.


Remember some people had to make irrational decisions to face grave danger to bring us the gospel we so enjoy today. Most of them were wasted because they were willing to be stupid enough like the dude we all so conveniently find to abuse.

ariesbull:
The problem with you is that you have refused to know history

When Jerusalem was under siege by one Islamic rascal called Saladin.. It was the pope that assembled men known as crusaders to go and take it over ...that's why till today Jerusalem is not in hands of Muslim


Pls know your history

I love the way you rationed your thoughts, very typical of how a normal human is meant to reason. But here is a flip side of all you have said, The apostles of Jesus Christ left father, mother and family behind, some even left a striving career behind and followed Jesus, know they will die. They dragged their families into pain by refusing to be ordinary men.

Jesus's disciple where regarded as outlaws (perhaps terrorists) at there time, but of course the contrast is that they were galvanised by the Holy spirit and through prayers and the Good message won souls for God, unlike the death and destruction that a group like ISIS spreads.

But My point still remains the same. A man leaves behind the comforts of life and goes on a lone mission that he knows he would never come back - that's what I respect, that's what the missionaries that brought Christ to Africa did. Tha'ts what we modern Christains have been brain washed not to do. We love the good things of life so much we don't want to ever go. Any one that mentions or reminds us that we would die is seen as a potential devil, how foolish we have become. Yet daily we see people going

I am a Christain so dont sweat yourself on me supporting ISIS

Memejem:
What kind of rubbish are you spewing here? The man abandoned his life and dragged his family into the pit of hell. Endangering them because he allowed fanatics to infiltrate his mind. How is joining a terrorist organization a testament to faith. He was foolish. If Isis is the true face of islam then all Muslims would be thier members. But that's not the case. Isis and all terrorist groups who cause havoc in the name of religion are only bastardizing it.

Being religious doesn't mean that people should blindly follow thier leaders. God gave each of us a brain to reason and think. If a leader of a religion is leading you to do what you know is against the teaching in the Koran or Bible you don't just follow them.

In your attempt to sound deep, you have revealed that you are a supporter of terrorism, hate and death. Get out of here.

There is a huge difference in fleeing a hostile situation, in which you get trapped and killed for your faith, that happened all the time. I m talking of leaving the safety of your home and going to die. in Nigerian terms that would mean, you leaving the south of Nigeria to Borno when the Boko Haram menace was at its peak to help defend the local vigilantes or Xtains been killed.

ariesbull:
In order to avoid Islamic contagion Igbo died for their faith

What about Syrian Christians killed

This dude leaves behind a wealthy life style, money, family and all. And travels to the harshest of places to defend a faith he believes in. I see this whole story slightly from a different perspective. Then I ask myself, How many Christians are willing to die for their faith, I m not talking of dying for your race or tribe, but for the fact that you believe in Christ. If they say today, if you come out and Go to church we will fire you, how many people would still come out. I know the answer and I very well hope I myself will come out.

Every one will die one day, some when they are ready some while they are enjoying - distracted. This dude is gone to face his maker, are we sure with the hate we spew in our hearts, the hypocrisy of our life's and fake mouth service we someday we wont end up where he is.

Guy, better dont kill yourself. A cheat would always cheat right under your nose even if she is home 24/7.

teekay213:
That is why my wife can't work under any person.

My most memorable moment is that thunder of a shot that hit the cross bar against Eygpt at the group stage of Tunis 94. Menh the man was a complete striker, He really blended with Oliseh back then, pity we cant put together a team like that era ever again. RIP

The Tompolo and Asari's that we have now are those that have tasted the good things of life, the private jets, the good life of 5 star hotels, the most beautiful women the world have to offer, the respect of men - they are not the same as you used to think. You dont taste such good life and want to go back to mosquito infested creeks. They are not as willing to die as we all used to believe when the struggle was real. And same goes for all the boys that rolled with them, you need to see how well fed they have become.


Only poor people want to die at all cost, when life gets good, you even pray that Jesus should wait and not come yet. When the fire starts, they wont wait

doublewisdom:
Believe this you would believe anything . Which Tompolo dey fast and pray? He wants you to believe he's running scared.

So Bayelsa is even worse off compared to Osun, likewise is Ondo, how come no one sings their song.

Plenty amen to that, God already rules our life's like Nigeria is being ruled now. Things are always hardest before the breakthrough, thats why God allows us to pass through the desert experience before Canaan. That's way better than getting an illusion that all is OK, while the cancer of corruptions eats into our children future.

We know our own time might have gone, but at least lets save our children's own

TrueHeart365:
and may God rule your life the way buhari is running this country.

say amen if you believe this government is better than the previous.

buhari that is yet to buy one tire since he entered power. mtcheeew

What a pity, Only God know what really must have happened. Nevertheless, wrong to conclude that the woman was cheating.

Any one can be poor in their very generation... may God not allow the devil have his way on you. Read your bible.. JOBs wealth disappeared right be fore his eyes. And he was a billionaire

Holudarey01:
He said it with his mouth.
When he was making millions, he didn't invest.
Now he's @ ground zero. Now tell me can Mikel be poor? Not in this generation. Dude has a lot of investments

This is just the beginning of the Naira re-strengthening, watch and observe!!

Sunnycliff:
But does this call for celebration

Point of correction, we behave ourselves in their country because they act appropriately themselves, but since we don't value ourselves and act as we want, they also follow suite when they come here. Have you noticed how Multinationals operate just like local companies when they come to Nigeria?. That's exactly why Nigeria has not being working..we need a mind set change

Rapmoney:
That goes a long way to show how we reason! When they go to their country, they behave properly but when they come down here, they behave the way they please!!!

This are men, unlike those of us that sit behind laptops and phones on Nairaland to drop bombs. May God win this battle for Nigeria.

Relax, you do know nothing good comes easy. The ship of the country has been steered in the correct direction. We have set sail, and in Jesus' name we shall start to get there.

CastedDude:
is it about receiving a glorious experience abroad when ur country is in shambles or wat ... the main issue is to experience a STABLE economy

Nice too see change seems to be coming slowly, at least cooperate organisations now give a damn about their image. ...

What is my Opinion on TB Joshua and his prophesies?

I do honestly believe that the man does see things, maybe not a 100% accurate, but he seems to see things.

Should we take his prophesy serious?

Yes I think so, even if its a simple word to cancel it and cover ourselves with the protection of God.

Do I think he can do better?

Oh sure yes, it almost seems his media likes to shower credit on him when his prophesies come true, forgetting that humans lives might have been lost. The priority should be on ensuring that negative prophesies are averted. But also you now ask, if most of his prophesies are averted due to intervention wont people label him a fake again.

I believe strongly that people have to learn spiritual maturity and understand that both God and the devil show visions to their messengers. The more important thing is to cancel all negative prophesies as we have been given authority too, and decree the establishment of good prophesies when they are pronounced.

Evil shall not befall Nigeria or Ghana fin Jesus Name.

Whao, he should take it easy o, Nigeria has better days ahead o

BeardedMeat:
The person you quoted has lost his steam and popularity here due to his unstable xter. He is depressed and unhappy and the reflection is in his scanty childish contributions nowadays.

On the contrary I think its the SW he must be referring too. Yoruba's talk a lot, while the others have started to stockpile weapons in preparation for fire in the event it occurs. Even in that Lagos, I wont be surprised if other ethnicities are better armed that yorubas, getting ready for war. The recent events at Mile 12 is an example of how ill prepared Yorubas always are.

kettykings:
igbos are not prepared for anything , no plan B, no fall back position , no strategy , no preparation, no cards on the table , no deft moves , no organisation only wailings , the igbo race is now more vulnerable than they were in 1967 and more prone to being roundly defeated in a little arm struggle like there was in 1967

Really, did you type this while running to buy fuel. You usual have something more intelligent to say other than a one liner "When did Amaechi add the Lagos-Calabar rail project? I still find it hard to believe"

TonyeBarcanista:
When did Amaechi add the Lagos-Calabar rail project? I still find it hard to believe.

You apparently have watched too many science fiction movies to think a meteor has to blow us all like a nuclear bomb. In reality meteorites land on earth regularly. However most of them are small in size and land in the sea as the earth has 75% water.

Almost every major advanced civilization in history recorded one form of meteor show or another. Nevertheless, the more intriguing part of this things is that those rock could be millions of years old, travelling through space of millions of light years

oloriooko:
If its a meteorite the effect of the impact will be more devastating than this and by the way that pic is fake

Why should people believe the story is fake, there is a scientific explanation to this nah, or are people that oblivious that things fall into our planet from outer space?. That a tiny bit of a meteor shower, lucky it didnt land on some one or something. Neverthelss, it could be an isolated event or a sign some bigger meteorite might be on its way to earth.

Well, what is sad news to someone might just be good piece of news to another.

But seriously, you are a man, you probably might be married with kids. Are you not bothered that if this dullard fails, that 7 wasted years that would never be restored. Would you rather still hope he fail rather than hope he succeeds, after all if he (Dullard) fails he wont suffer, neither would a certain Jona.

But I think a lot of people on Nairaland would. Just a thought into the mind of a black man - and yet we think we are better thinkers than whites.

PoliticalThuG:
good news?

Did u say goodnews?

Like there is any good news that has ever come out from this useless government

Hehe.. Laughing is Russian. Despite all your hate for this man, you know deep in your heart he is a formidable force to reckon with. Just like those that vowed to starve to death if Paul in the bible was not killed, you also pray each day hoping evil would befall baba, but see your desires are yet to happen - and will never happen.You have to stay in your perpetual state of sadness for the next 7 years. I wonder how sad you must be each time you hear anything good about government, it not make you so miserable. Each morning you wake and hear good news about baba, you must feel sad. Whao what a life. if this is how dullards are, Yes I like this kind of dullard and millions of Nigerian still do.

How do feel now?

PoliticalThuG:
Once a Dullard!!!!!


look the way he is looking at the paper as if he knows what is written in it

Well, fast forward to 2016, we still stick our drillers in the ground but the oil is now way cheaper...

bebe2:
As a white oil company contractor once told my dad,

He said one day, Nigerians are going to stick their dipstick into the ground and realise there is no oil left,
Dats wen they will start to develop other business sectors.

Nope... too vulgar for my liking

So we should have voted GEJ right?.. I laugh in swahili.
Then things would have been worse by now.. with the rate the stealing was going on, we would have all been at the border by now trying to cross over, while the likes of the Oil minister, Militants and corrupt military men would have been lavishing abroad.

In the 2015 elections we had no choice - Buhari is not the best, but surely was the only option. If there are No better options come 2019, sorry but we sticking with Baba..

Kenai:
Wah wah waaaah!

"South East lost by not supporting Buhari"

"South East put their eggs in one basket"

"South East miscalculated by not supporting Buhari"

"South East is blinded by tribalism"

"South East was politically naive and lacked sophistication for not supporting change"

"South East will be on the wrong side of history for not supporting Buhari"

"South East miscalculated seriously by not supporting Buhari"

...

Well, with the events playing out, it sure looks to me like the South-East were the WISER ones for refusing to be deceived by the FAKE change and propaganda.

When history comes to judge you and you think of the role you played in electing a 73 year-old illiterate tribal supremacist and coup-plotting ex-dictator to rule your country of over 170 million people in the 21st century, would you be proud of yourself?

From "Buhari is a reformed democrat", the new narrative being pushed by his lapdogs today is "democracy is an obstacle to the war on corruption". "Let us withdraw the constitution to help Buhari fight corruption".

Your parents queued up for long hours in 1984 for milk, rice and beans; you'd have to be a gullible dimwit to think Buhari gives a damn about you queueing up for long hours in 2016 for fuel.

A people with no knowledge of their history will never be gifted with the skills of retrospective analysis, and are bound to keep repeating their mistakes. This is exactly why it was easy to pick up an expired ethnic bigot and despotic illiterate from the dustbin of history, and dust him up into a "reformed democrat" in the eyes of the gullible, ignorant populace.

THank God they were not kidnapped..

This is exactly how selfish people talk, your parents went through the rigours of taking care of you, cleaning your dirty ass when you were a baby, gladly picked you and rocked you when you cried at night and for many years paying your school fees from their hard earned money. Thats what parents do, now that you are old you should at least seek for what would make them happy, thats what responsible people do. They could have aborted you, you think its easy to raise a child. Now grow up and go find a good girl that would make mama and papa proud and happy.

People need to think beyound themselves for once...and the fact that you find a woman like this attractive also speaks volumes about who you turned out to be - despite that your parents tried untop your matter they took you to church o, every wednesday and sunday.

and No, its not only you marrying her, she is marrying your family also.

ItzTun3chi:
Thats why africa is still in stone age .I'm gonna marry her so far I love her regardless my parents accepts or not.na me wan marry am not them

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Hehehehe.. well said..

omenka:
Abeg, iPod yoots, I take the name of Chukwu Okike Abiama beg una, make una no come shout "propaganda" here too. We know say na propaganda but we like am. Make una just waka pass jejely.

Thank you for your cooperation in advance.