TV/Movies › Re: ARROW and THE FLASH fan page....... by profstar(m): 9:04pm On Mar 28, 2016*. Modified: 9:38pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
maybrowne: With the recent development about the identity of Zoom and jay Garrick, many questions have been asked and many theories have been given.
Like jay Garrick is Zoom twin, There is a earth 3, Zoom is a part of jay from the future And a whole lot others.
While I will be debunking this theories, I have taken serious time to look at the character of zoom in relation to Jay Garrick and then balancing it up with the character of Barry from the very beginning, as a result of my persistent research, I have come up with some set of theories that I believe will answer the numerous questions that are left unanswered.
Question 1: Who is Zoom and who is Jay Garrick
My Theory: I believe that both Earth 2 flash and Zoom are the same person and that is Jay Garrick.
In episode 5 Of season 2, we say flash create a mirror image ( also known as speed mirage) while fighting doctor Light from earth 2. Now understanding that he was not really as fast as he is now, it’s understandable that the mirror image he created was temporary & static (i.e., it was not moving on its own) and was faking quickly which resulted in Barry having to create multiple mirror images.
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While in episode 9 of season 1 , we say the reverse flash ( who is still faster than the flash) create a mirror image of himself while trying to deceive Barry and others, we say him in different clothing in the same place as one was dressed as the reverse flash and the other was dressed as Harrison wells.
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So I believe that the zoom (who is presented as being faster than Barry and the reverse flash as a whole) as the ability to create a mirror image that can become an entirely new body and can be in different places at the same time. So Zoom could be on earth 2 while his mirror image (the one we know as earth 2 flash/ jay Garrick could be on earth 1).
But then that begs the question, How can one person Jay Garrick be Earth 2 Flash (The Good Guy) and the Zoom (The Bad Guy) at the same time.
While I have a theory that explains this , I will like to see what you all think of this before I drop it. Well, i disagree with you, the only way Jay can be mirror image of zoom is if DC is planning on playing a fast one on us as they did when they made reverse flash to appear in season 2 (giving us lame excuse for his appearance  [s][/s]). Back to the topic, Jay (earth 2 flash) is known in earth 2 to be a very good guy to the point that a statue was built for him as it can be seen when berry travelled there and battled killer frost and her bae. Therefore, as far as I'm concern, before a hero's statue is built, the hero must have either: (a.) severally known to have saved many lifes and properties (b) risked his life to the point of death to still save people (c) or the people undoubtedly believe in him. (D.) ALL OF THE ABOVE. That been stated, remember that from the scenes we have been shown so far, even BEFORE warm hole thing, flash and zoom as been known to be opposite of each order. So tell me what willl zoom gain he tries to save people at the cost of his life by being the flash(Hero) and also kill hundreds at the end of the day by being zoom(Vilian)? Like somebody said, the only reasonable explaination we can give considering the fact that sisco can vibe zoom by touching Jay's helmet, is that both are twins in earth 2, while one grew up with his family to bear "Jay Garrick" the other one was adopted to Zolomon family(like the one in earth 1). With this theory, Jay might not even know that zoom has the same face like his own, while zoom will definately know because Jay doesn't wear a mask. There is a saying that says: The enemy you don't know but knows you, have far greater possibility of defeating you than you do. Now my brain is smoking out for being over tasked.  #  # Help me with "likes" if you feel i made some points and "share" if you feel i no try. |
TV/Movies › Re: ARROW and THE FLASH fan page....... by profstar(m): 8:31am On Mar 27, 2016 |
kazzi11: His younger version is the one in the mask, Zoom killed the one from earth one. Can you listen to your self bro, which one is from earth one. The one from earth one was only shown once which Gerrick oops Zoom happen be his "version" in earth 2. In a simple language Jay that was killed is from earth 2 bro. We are trying to put the pieces of this puzzle together don't come and scatter it o |
TV/Movies › Re: ARROW and THE FLASH fan page....... by profstar(m): 5:39pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
amicableSavage: Abi o. But now that Iris is hitting on her boss. I smell love o no mind Iris jare she just dey form hard to get up and down. God go help am berry go impregnate one of his side kick na that time her eye go clear. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Pope Francis To Wash & Kiss The Feet Of 4 Nigerian Catholics, 3 Muslims,5 Others by profstar(m): 5:59pm On Mar 24, 2016 |
Chanchit: 4Nigerians! Na so we useless reach, cos according to this news, the pope wants to wash and kiss the feet of 12 useless people to show how humble he is. GOD BLESS YOU FOR SPEAKING MY MIND, SEE AS I OPEN MOUTH AS I DEY SEE AM FOR FRONT PAGE. |
TV/Movies › Re: ARROW and THE FLASH fan page....... by profstar(m): 7:29am On Mar 24, 2016 |
Oluwaseytiano: nope, The younger jay is the man in the iron mask you don see hin face abi? Ok i get it you don watch episode 20 abi |
TV/Movies › Re: ARROW and THE FLASH fan page....... by profstar(m): 6:59am On Mar 24, 2016 |
Oluwaseytiano: The only thing I can think of is that Zoom is an older evil time travelling version of Jay Garrick. Every thing will be revealed next week. if he is, he will have been erased from existence the moment he killed the assumed younger version (jay) |
TV/Movies › Re: ARROW and THE FLASH fan page....... by profstar(m): 6:54am On Mar 24, 2016 |
I don't think this e16 is logical atall o. Don't forget that they showed us several scenes on earth 2 where Jay was the hero fighting zoom and everybody believed in him. Does that mean he deceived everybody on earth 2? So pretending from the begining(on earth 2) to be the hero fighting the vilian while he is both, what could he be trying to achieve by that?
Nothing logical from the last 2 episodes |
TV/Movies › Re: ARROW and THE FLASH fan page....... by profstar(m): 4:00pm On Mar 23, 2016 |
ellab: Hehehe...*claps hands like village woman* Egabmi ke. What did I just watch Biko?
Jay is Zoom, Zoom is jay. Meaning they are doppelgangers? So there are 2 Jays from earth 2 or maybe 3(if I count that masked guy in Doom's abode. The one who tried to helped Barry and Barry promised to save him but that doesn't make sense. why would there be 3 Jays? ).
if Jay is zoom's doppelganger on earth then who is the person jay showed caitlyn to on earth 1?
Does that mean Jay is a bad Guy? But he saves lives. OR What if Jay,zoom and the man in the iron mask are all from different earth's, with zoom going from earth to earth defeating speedsters and using his doppleganger to delaythe effects of V9 on his body?
And what is up with wells's daughter's bracelet beepingaround wally? Does he have powers too?
I give up abeg. I go just get headache. you're very funny, You took your time and typed an entire note up there, only for you to now give up. |
TV/Movies › Re: ARROW and THE FLASH fan page....... by profstar(m): 7:22am On Mar 23, 2016 |
Elparaiso: Anyone notice that Cisco used the word "ass" in this episode a lot? episode...? |
Celebrities › Re: Olumuyiwa Osinuga "Nomoreloss" Is Dead (Singer, Comedian) by profstar(m): 5:59pm On Mar 21, 2016 |
This is a painful news o
if i tell you that i listened to "ojuri" (one of his songs) like a hundred times last night, slept around 12:30am because of that song.
i dedicate this song, to my number one critic... who is now my number one fan, ...to my dad...
so sad. this is a great loss to music industry o.
I PRAY THIS NEWS IS NOT TRUE O |
Webmasters › Re: 5 Things That Yahoo! Search Can Do But Not Google by profstar(m): 5:13pm On Mar 21, 2016 |
bro I'm very sorry to announce to you that the "5 Things That Yahoo! Search Can Do But Not Google" that you wrote up there is a COMPLETE NONSENSE!!!
I FOLLOWED EACH OF THE 5 THINGS AND GOOGLE STILL BEATS YAHOO HANDS DOWN, especially number 2, 3, 4, 5.
That shows one thing, "YAHOO SUCKS EVEN AT IT'S OWN STRONG POINT"
The moderator that put this on front page is so lazy that he couldn't confirm it before putting it there. |
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Politics › Re: 7 Igbos Who Could Be President Come 2019 by profstar(m): 8:21pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
MonPro: An unneccesary distraction from a bigger goal. Who presidency don help? see hausa see almajiri, see yoruba see beggars. Again who presidency don help? As big as yoruba with more than 50 million people only one yoruba man have ever been president in the last 50 years. That means the chance of a yoruba youth ever becoming president in the next 50 years is 1/50 million and it's even getting slimmer by the day as the East will never vote a yoruba since they've sworn never to vote an Easterner, while the north will always vote northerners as long as an hausa/fulani stands election, so where will yorubas get their votes?
Yet they are shouting "one nigeria" up and down like mad men. Dem go hear wehn! the north must rule for as long as nigeria exist. The East is no longer interested in the presidency of an unworkable zoo. |
Politics › Re: 7 Igbos Who Could Be President Come 2019 by profstar(m): 8:15pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
EzePromoe: [color=#DC143C]To hell with Igbo presidency. To what gain will it be to the common Igbo man when this so called Igbo president will spend most of his tenure trying to please the North to our detriments. Nigeria is so unfair.[/color] |
Education › Re: Kaduna Pupils Desert Schools After Eating Free Meals by profstar(m): 8:01am On Mar 16, 2016 |
OZAOEKPE:
NO MATTER HOW YOU FORCE THEM, THEIR HEAD NO THEY FOR BOOK 
AND NA ALL THESE CHILDREN THEY ENJOY 'QUOTA SYSTEM', WHEREBY SERIOUS SOUTHERNERS THEY BEG FOR ATTENTION. THE NORTH IS THE PROBLEM OF THIS COUNTRY, LORD LUGARD MAY ROT IN HELL FOR THIS. MOST OF OUR USE LESS LEADERS LIKE GMB, IBB ETC WERE PRODUCTS OF THIS SYSTEM. |
Business › Re: Some Tips To Help Minimize Business Related Scams by profstar(m): 6:55am On Mar 16, 2016 |
Insightz: Scammers are getting really sophisticated by the day. The scammer is always inventing and strategizing. They seem to always be ahead of us good folk. No matter! We can still take steps to secure ourselves from these blood suckers. Below are some general guiding tips to help us make informed decisions
Telltale Sign of a Possible Scam: Use your Common Sense and Instincts!
1: Deal is always too good to be true: Noticeable sign of a scam is that the scammer presents it as being cheap, easy to get etc. there is always a catch. Stay away IF THE DEAL IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. could be a car, a recharge car, a data bundle, machinery, etc.
2: Hurry up and Pay now: The scammer would always want to prey on your anxiety, your fear. Because the scammer knows that the deal is cheap, they try to make sure you pay up. The trick is to make you believe you would lose something. 3: Demands upfront payment: The scammer would most always ask that you pay all or pay upfront. Usually half the price.
4: No specific business location: Some scammers do not have specific business address or location. even if they do, it would be fake. You could ask here on NL if someone is familiar with that address or that business.
5: No Corporate Bank Account: Usually a personal bank account. The scammer might tell you he is a freelancer as the reason for not having a corporate Bank account. Don't fall for this bull! I have been there before.
6: Name of Scammer sometimes does not match Account Name: Be very vigilant if the scammer gives you a different account from his/her name. Real red flag
7: Pay half now, pay half on delivery: This is a good trick aimed at making sure that you part with at least some money. For the scammer, it does not matter, as long as he gets something. Never pay up without seeing your goods. 8: Calls to ask if you have paid the money: The scammer could call you at odd hours, could call you every minute or every hour. Job related scammers have been known to do this all the time. Anyone that calls you up to make a payment is likely not legit.
9: Pay for training: Job related scammers would tell you to pay for training. Some would even ask you pay, even 1k. 10. Pay a sum of money to secure a bigger, better job: For e.g. they would tell you the job pays 200k, but you need to pay 45k to secure it.
11: No visible business location: Every legitimate business should have a location; it does not matter if you run it from your house, your basement or the garage.
Rules to help Minimize Risks: Never Ever be Greedy, Greed leads to scams!
Rule 1: Be very patient: Never be too much in hurry to close a deal. The scammer is counting on this. His trick is to make sure he creates anxiety on your mind.
Rule 2: Due Diligence: Please research the person with whom you intent deal. Goggle his name, phone number
Rule 3: Search on Nairaland. The search box on nairaland is there for a reason. Search user names, phone numbers, etc. If the scammer operates on NL, you would know.
Rule 4: Open a thread on nairaland about the person: This would solicit feedback from good nairalanders. Someone on NL may have good information about that person.
Rule 5: Ask for Facebook / Business Page: I know some scammers have Facebook pages, asking for one would help you make informed decision.
Rule 6: Demand a Corporate Account: Always demand a corporate Bank account. It is more Trust worthy than individual account
Rule 7: Always demand for CAC registration number: I know some scammers have taken the pain to register scamming enterprises. Still, asking for CAC registration number would help you quickly make up your mind. You can always place a call to CAC to confirm.
Rule 8: Never Pay Upfront: Unless you established a business relationship.
Rule 9: Pay on delivery: Even better, ask to foot the transportation bill.
Rule 10: Offer to Pick up the Goods Personally: If Rule 8 does not work. This always works, in my experience.
Rule 11: Run a Bank Check: Call up the bank, ask them to confirm the account number. They may be reluctant to reveal other information due banking policy. Sometimes you may be lucky to get some good information.
Rule 12: Stay Away from Pyramid Schemes: NO NO NO!
This is not exhaustive. Please Add yours and transact safely! |
Crime › Re: Abacha Loot: Switzerland Returns $723 Million To Nigeria In 10 Years by profstar(m): 6:48am On Mar 16, 2016 |
ikbnice: Abacha really tried sha o ...anyway, we need the money plus the returns it has yielded in all this years. If Switzerland fails to return the money plus its interest, I'll call that kwaruption. |
Business › Re: CBN Introduces New Charges On ATM Cards, Cheques by profstar(m): 6:39am On Mar 16, 2016 |
leonbob: But PMB should have told us all these wicked levies while he was campaigning, by now he would have been back in Daura grazing his 230 cows and plastering his inherited mud house, God punish all who have determined to make life more difficult for Nigerians |
Politics › Re: Nigeria V South Africa: The Battle For African Supremacy - BBC by profstar(m): 8:22am On Mar 14, 2016 |
mrvitalis: Believe me if u take the average statistics of southern Nigeria it will be very close to south Africa if not better The north keep pulling us back |
Nairaland General › Re: VIO Official Attacks Man For Taking Pic Of Him Fighting Road User by profstar(m): 2:29pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
josite: serves u right.next time u find out about the job hazards of journalism before embarking same.who wants to be videoed in uncomplimentary situations.receive sense in jesus name.next time do it with sense.it is called citizens journalism. please enlighten me about this citizen journalism because I have always been wondering why police and other goverment agencies see it like a criminal offence. Is it wrong according to the law to use your phone to record what you see? |
Phones › Re: Five Reasons Why You Should Stop Using All Internet Cheats ASAP. by profstar(m): 7:53am On Mar 08, 2016 |
'5 reasons' for the gods |
Phones › Re: Infinix Products. by profstar(m): 7:40am On Mar 08, 2016 |
omotayor80: well I guess u were trying to compare price to see which is cheaper. its the same price and y u would leave slot behind your office to patronize me is because we have warranty on all phones u buy which makes it easier for u to return back if spoilt. ok o, but it has always been about the price though and Slot too provides warranty. |
Phones › Re: What Kind Of Phones Can I Get With N30K? by profstar(m): 7:19pm On Mar 07, 2016 |
Xhaka: If you like to settle for less, then get Lenovo "less" in terms of quality or the price |
Phones › Re: Infinix Products. by profstar(m): 7:50pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
omotayor80: 1gb ram why should i leave the slot behind my office to patronize you if you will still sell it for the same price? |
Phones › Re: Infinix Products. by profstar(m): 5:48pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
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Phones › Re: What Kind Of Phones Can I Get With N30K? by profstar(m): 2:10pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
Besea: Thanks y'all. I got a Lenovo A5000 for 25,500. Tecno has too much wahala. Camon c8 no be am O. It cannot multitask effectively, I don't handle the phone. pls how is the Lenovo phone like? I'm planning of getting it soon |
Phones › Re: Infinix Products. by profstar(m): 11:11pm On Mar 04, 2016 |
How much do you sell hot note 2 |
Romance › Re: Nigerian Lady Ready For Marriage On Twitter (Photo) by profstar(m): 7:07am On Feb 29, 2016 |
Jarus: Bro, you still dey NL? Long time. good morning sir, can I get your number? Its about an accounting issue |
Politics › Re: Buhari: N5000 Payment To Unemployed Youth Is Not My Priority by profstar(m): 3:57pm On Feb 28, 2016 |
OKDnigeria: Hmmmm APC supporters.... when Buhari made d promise, they supported it. Now that he has reneged on it, they support it If he tomorrow reintroduces it, they will support it. Even if Buhari turns around and says unemployed youths shld pay #5,000 monthly to govt, they will support it. To them Buhari is always right. he must not be criticized |
Phones › Re: Submitted Lava V5 Smart Phone by profstar(m): 5:07pm On Feb 26, 2016 |
Please o, has anyone gotten this phone |
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: DSS Is Recruiting (2016) by profstar(m): 8:28pm On Feb 22, 2016 |
politifact: yes,the interview was conducted last week tuesday. Expecting the final list Na wa o, there is God |
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: DSS Is Recruiting (2016) by profstar(m): 9:29pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
LAGOS!!!! YOU GUYS SHOULD SAY SOMETHING NOW BEFORE THIS SUSPENSE GO RESULT TO HEART ATTACK!!! LAGOS, HAS ANYONE BEEN CALLED FOR INTERVIEW!  |